LoL eSports Discussion

Espeonage · Post Post #4372 (isolation #0) » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:35 am

I am pretty sure that given how insane teams are able to rotate now at the top of the game, and how we are going in to a run at your face meta, there will be upsets in the world championships.

Expect Fnatic to do things in worlds they haven't done before. xPeke's laning was always a big issue for them against the absolute top teams (At least last year it was), that's not an issue any more.

Espeonage · Post Post #4523 (isolation #1) » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:19 pm

RAISE THE DROP BEARS

Espeonage · Post Post #4663 (isolation #2) » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:53 am

If Rekkles is in form come Worlds Fnatic can do it, but they are the only team that can from EU or NA. Fnatic were always at their best with the protect the carry comps.

Espeonage · Post Post #4771 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:01 am

Group 1 is a FUCKING FARCE> HOW DARE CLG GET A GROUP THEY CAN REALISTICALLY LEAVE. FUCK OFF.
Group 2 is bae. (Been and Fnatic fan since season 1, been and Invictus fan since season 2), Second spot is winnable by all the teams. Group of life.
Group 3 is SKT and others. Edward gonna choke again bc they can't travel. They're the Spain of LoL. Look to see H2K to make it out on sheer dumb luck.
Group 4 is just fucked. Like seriously. Upsets likely. Lets put the two most experienced teams that had iffy years with teams from the top two regions and see what happens. If you are a betting man, put a fiver on Origen to make it out. Because the payoff is gonna be huge and could EASILY happen. TSM will get only one match win, and it won't be against Origen. Someone will go undefeated and it won't be Origen. Group of Death.

Oh predictions.

Umm...
1. KOO/CLG
2. Fnatic/AHQ
3. SKT/H2K
4. KT/Origen

Yep, fucking dark horses everywhere. Fuck the form guide.

Espeonage · Post Post #4900 (isolation #4) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:31 am

In post 4771, Espeonage wrote:If you are a betting man, put a fiver on Origen to make it out. Because the payoff is gonna be huge

Did anyone take my advice?

Espeonage · Post Post #4913 (isolation #5) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:38 am

Well I would say, there is currently a decent opportunity for as many as 5 western teams to make it out. I stand by my H2K prediction and EDG's group choke.

Espeonage · Post Post #4914 (isolation #6) » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:40 am

btw, if that happens, China would be on 0 teams.

Espeonage · Post Post #4971 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:50 am

That would be hilarious. Because it's the only tip I made that is looking unlikely. Y'all can eat my dust.

Espeonage · Post Post #5191 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:45 pm

Who is first in our group atm?

BC I got 37 from Group Stage, which is apparently top 13%.

Espeonage · Post Post #5194 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:26 pm

I picked same except Fnatic hype train for the final.

Espeonage · Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:08 pm

Chinese are so weak over series in comparison to single games. And Fnatic has always had great series composure.

Espeonage · Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:05 am

Just to expand on my point. Teams with good coaching structure and the ability to bring surprise picks to the table are always going to do better in series. So teams with strong streamers that play requests and people that have off meta pocket picks or comps will generally find a way to win out over five games.

Remember this is the time of the tournament where dumb stuff like heal/shield comps and protect the Kali/Vayne with four tanks will come through and take games off people and put them on tilt over the series.

This is why I generally like teams that have lanes that they like to focus on as better in Bo5. The main reason I rate Fnatic so highly is because of the stuff that Rekkles can pull out of something like a 4/5 pick Vayne in what is otherwise a normal looking team comp along with a wild pick alongside to change the complexion of a champ select. Bo5 is where teams can take risks and generally those that do tend to go better if they can shift mentality in the first couple of games.

Espeonage · Post Post #5272 (isolation #12) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:32 am

OMFG SO KEEN

Espeonage · Post Post #5274 (isolation #13) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:54 am

BAAAAAARON

Espeonage · Post Post #5276 (isolation #14) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:13 am

I got it.

Fuck I love Rekkles

Espeonage · Post Post #5278 (isolation #15) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:16 am

Needed more galio.

Espeonage · Post Post #5283 (isolation #16) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:54 am

I want to see a team where they pick Morde AND an ADC to create some serious siege pressure. Have the toplaner play the Morde and stick the adc in the solo lane.

Espeonage · Post Post #5285 (isolation #17) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:08 am

ADC Trist is still a decent mid pick too with strong vision control.

Espeonage · Post Post #5296 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:21 am

Korea v EU in both semis.

Espeonage · Post Post #5297 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:32 am

Ok so how does Yellowstar feel if final is Origen v Fnatic and Origen win. Like, no revenge for season 1. He and xPeke has such a rich history.

Espeonage · Post Post #5315 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:21 pm

In post 5308, Cabd wrote:Going to the official movie theater viewing party here in Chicago. It's walking distance from my house.

Me too. Watching it on the big screen.

Espeonage · Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:42 pm

I feel like Fnatic have the best shot of beating SKT. But they need a short series against whoever they play to keep something. SKT's champion pool in every lane is so big they can outpick, but only if they know what's coming. I feel like Febiven would need to have the series of his life.

I see Koo winning and then Fnatic beating Koo.

Espeonage · Post Post #5325 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:35 am

Why lux and ziggs?

Espeonage · Post Post #5327 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:47 am

Disabled Graggy is big.

Espeonage · Post Post #5342 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:48 am

Yeah Fnatic / Origen final is very fitting for 5th year. The xPeke vs Yellowstar hypetrain is real.

Espeonage · Post Post #5344 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:34 am

If we all agree that KOO isn't going to win the whole thing we can go ahead and say something or someone will be winning their second worlds. Fnatic and SKT as teams , or xPeke as a person.

Espeonage · Post Post #5346 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:41 am

They were the best team in the world at the time. And there was a decent enough amount of competition. TSM and especially AAA both turned up big time as well. You can't discount season 1 worlds when two finalists are still in top echelon of played still actively playing. Season 1 AAA and Fnatic both had players that are in these semi finals. Ergo, top players in the world at the height of League's popularity were active season 1 too.

Season 1, 100% counts.

Espeonage · Post Post #5366 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 7:45 pm

Which is dumb.

Espeonage · Post Post #5382 (isolation #28) » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:56 pm

Tbh the semi series that Fnatic played was p good. I remember the AP triad's stength and weaknesses being explained quite well which was a cool insight in to the game at that time. (Anivia, Brand, Malz)

Espeonage · Post Post #5400 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:26 am

That was a great game.

Espeonage · Post Post #5409 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:43 pm

I think that this semi is gonna be great because I feel like these are the two teams that lift and have the best teams over five games in comparison to single games. If any teams could beat SKT over five games it would be these two just because of how good they both are at breaking down opponent's games.

I feel like Fnatic is slightly better than Koo in terms of who can beat SKT because Fnatic make explosive midgame plays moreso than any other team which I feel is the weakest point of SKT's game. Koo however are quite good at finding some way to win and forcing that through.

No matter who wins, I will be going for them in the final. I picked Fnatic, and I still think they will win here.

Espeonage · Post Post #5410 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:36 am

Oh man, I love this series already.

Espeonage · Post Post #5429 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:56 am

I was watching vods a few days ago. And it really did. ZYRA JUNGLE IN QUARTERFINALS.

Espeonage · Post Post #5442 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:27 pm

I left the TSM hype train when Regi stopped playing.

Espeonage · Post Post #5449 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:51 pm

My team is and has always been Fnatic. And it continues to be. Even when xPeke, one of the two ap playing reasons I became a fnatic fan left I am still a Fnatic fan.

TSM I liked bc I liked Regi. Without Regi on the playing roster I feel the main reason I watched them is gone. And I was a big TheOddOne fan. And the whole hating CLG thing.

Espeonage · Post Post #5451 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:00 pm

He played Janna mid that one time in an important game and won.

Espeonage · Post Post #5454 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:23 pm

In post 5452, zoraster wrote:
In post 5451, Espeonage wrote:He played Janna mid that one time in an important game and won.

I looked it up and it looks like Alex Ich played Janna into Regi. But maybe i'm missing one?

Regi did do it once.

Espeonage · Post Post #5456 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:39 pm

Lol, I despise Hotshot.

Espeonage · Post Post #5483 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:37 pm

I think the idea is that Korea has had infrustructure for a long time bc of non league compeittive esports.

Espeonage · Post Post #5486 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:03 pm

US are good in womens soccer because they have the most active and high level club support for women. US women's club football is to the womens game when England is to the mens game.

Espeonage · Post Post #5490 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:52 pm

Actually, if you take all Summer Olympic sports and then equate medals to population, it requires you to go to countries with miniscule populations to get close or overtake Australia.

Espeonage · Post Post #5521 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:07 am

Viewing party atmosphere was great. The Koo hype game 3 was so real. It was epic. And free skin + goodies for free is always awesome.

Espeonage · Post Post #5580 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:56 pm

tbh I never liked Alex Ich. He was always so devoted to his fave champs instead of what was strongest which was ok in season 1 and 2, and I dunno if that's changed. But it could harm them in the day in day out meta picks of top tier pro leagues.

Espeonage · Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:31 am

The scene is pretty decent over here if we had a stronger playerbase, but the inter-university comps went over really well and were a joy to watch. I even got to see some of the games live because I frequent the best gaming cafe in Sydney that hosts a bunch of riot supported tourneys.

A lot of it comes down to social media exposure I feel. Or if it was featured on the esports site which never really happens. But there are some followings of OCE challenger players over here specifically because of the tourneys they had.

It also helps make the scene tight knit that the popular streamers and oce casters are irl friends so exposure has grown, as soon as one gets a viewer the entire comp scene over here gets exposed to them. I had a great time watching ice casters v streamers competition that happened on all their streams, and they play 5s normals against subs sometimes which is also a treat to watch and participate in.

The scene is smaller over here though which means some exposure is a large amount for the size. I don't know what the solution is in larger regions. But I think the fact that Brazil and OCE have huge fan followings of lower ranked teams says they must be doing something right. If only that filtered to money for the challenger players so it is easier to make the jump.

Espeonage · Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:34 am

I feel like part of why FA cup is a big thing is that with football you can do stuff like run a second string team for experience which makes less whitewashes than normal. If you did that with league the amount of not good viewing would be huge until later rounds. You would only get viewership on the vods which doesn't bring much dosh in. And then you also have the history of FA cup.

Espeonage · Post Post #7001 (isolation #45) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 9:08 pm

What I posted to facebook.

My Pickems for those that care.
RNG over SKT
ROX over EDG
C9 over SSG
ANX over H2K
RNG over ROX
ANX over C9
RNG over ANX
Ones that may change. SKT v RNG is a tough one. ANX could win it. SSQ may beat C9. The others I am fairly confident on.

Regardless of what happens I will be going for whoever wins ANX v H2K. And I will be going for whatever team gets to the final from the bottom half expect if it somehow is C9 v Rox.

Espeonage · Post Post #7007 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:22 am

Deep champion pools?

Espeonage · Post Post #7045 (isolation #47) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:38 pm

Anyone going to the events?

I am at one of the Semis and the Final.

Espeonage · Post Post #7051 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:28 pm

At least the one I am going to is ROX v SKT

Espeonage · Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:20 pm

Espeonage · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:50 am

In post 7057, Voidedmafia wrote:Yeah right.

Is it outlandish of me to believe that the NALCS literally does not matter anymore unless/until an NA team wins MSI or places semis or better at worlds? (less so for EU since regardless of their opposition they've won one season and have only missed semis
once
as a region (S4))

It matters because professional sports is entertainment industry and while people are entertained and watch it, it is relevant. As long as a supporter base exists, it will continue to exist and be important to the way League is run.

Espeonage · Post Post #7106 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:45 pm

I became a TSM fan because I hated Hotshot and Regi played Janna mid once.

Espeonage · Post Post #7111 (isolation #52) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:11 pm

Is riftwalk (or whatever it's called) going to be worth it?

Espeonage · Post Post #7116 (isolation #53) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:40 am

Chants tally so far.

TSM 3 times.
Everyone else on none.

Espeonage · Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:46 am

For the record. ROX for the first chant of the teams playing. TSM still going strong.

Espeonage · Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:59 am

Quishotz pump up features everyone getting banned for refusing to say ggwp but instead chanting ggez in his face.

TSM also won the chant eat when he got everyone to shout who was going to win. Was hilarious.

Espeonage · Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:27 pm

There are features and.music. Sorry.

Espeonage · Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:37 pm

Double double up damage from last hitting the plants. Super zyra counterpick

Espeonage · Post Post #7134 (isolation #58) » Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:21 pm

Season 2 had some epics.

Espeonage · Post Post #7145 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:01 am

Gonna make a sign for the final.

Tossing up between
"Faker's a faker, give Crown his crown!'
Or
' I'm Australian, but me drinks. #Legacywin'

Espeonage · Post Post #7156 (isolation #60) » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:59 pm

I hate all the positivity towards Faker.

Espeonage · Post Post #7162 (isolation #61) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:03 am

Probs for the best. Gutwrenching to be there.

Espeonage · Post Post #7164 (isolation #62) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:09 am

Skt fans are even worse than c9 fans.

Espeonage · Post Post #7167 (isolation #63) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:41 am

Ive never heard a crowd jeer and shittalk in unison as much as the skt fans last night. It was a hell of a series, but its like chat in solo queue with them.

Espeonage · Post Post #7979 (isolation #64) » Sat May 12, 2018 5:24 pm

I put money on Fnatic to win MSI.

I am kinda pumped though. NA not being a seed 1 for worlds will mean there could be a very fun group where you have 1st EU, 1st NA, 1st Vietnam, and the CIS team.

Like how hype would that be.

Espeonage · Post Post #7982 (isolation #65) » Tue May 15, 2018 2:38 pm

I do not see flash wolves losing that best of five and I do not see eng losing a best of five to anyone.