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I've been playing this a bit lately. Neat game. Some good design ideas in here, along with some big annoyances. Don't really care enough about it to do more than hit rank 20 since that's apparently a thing to unlock card backs. Oh, also Arena and Adventures. I'm probably going to just be playing weird decks that I put together once I get to rank 20 each month.

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I'm at rank 17 right now, running whichever deck I need to in order to finish my dailies. Although that's only been Paladin/Druid/Hunter/Mage so far, so those are the only decks I have put together.

Then I'm continuing to suck at Arena, going at an average of 3 wins. Yuck.

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I have been building some silly decks lately. I have a mage secrets deck, a rogue deck that's similar to miracle, but adding Illidan Stormarage, a priest aggro-heal deck, and I'm trying to see what else I can do.

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so i've started playing this on my ipad. i feel like i'm fairly good with the play of the hand for the cards/decks i've been using (though by no means world class), but not very good at deck composition. That's particularly true in the Arena. Does anyone have any guidance or rules of thumb on how to approach arena deck building?

Arena is about a curve and creatures with good stats. You can't get cute and try to get synergies, because they likely aren't coming. Cards like Chillwind Yeti (4/5 for 4) and Spider Tank (3/4 for 3) are among the best possible picks you can get because of the stats you get for the cost. You want cards which are going to stick around and get extra value, maybe taking out two enemy minions before dying.

It's not easy, though. I think I'm a decent player, but I can barely ever go better than 3/3 in arena.

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So I just downloaded this game today.

Finished playing the tutorial, and then played 3 ranked games with the mage girl thing and won them all and now I'm ranked 24.

I also have no idea what I'm doing. Is there a progress bar telling you how far you are from reaching a certain rank or?

Edit: I won another game and now 23 and still have no idea where to check how far I am from a rank

I started ranked the other day-won all my games to rank 20, then faced people who were intelligent, so really struggled. Got stuck on rank 20. Need to unlock some other cards tbf.


Is it possible to not suck without spending money?

Yes. But it's really, really difficult, because it's a card game. It's very grindy to try to get any amount of gold to buy things without spending money. There are decks that you can build that will compete to a certain point, and there's clearly some skill to it. But better cards will always give you a better chance.

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I don't understand the hate for hunter decks or for zoo decks. It's a classic card game aggro archetype. They exist in essentially every TCG like this, same with combo and midrange and control. It's going to happen

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4 thoughtsteals in arena too much?

I don't like Thoughtsteal that much, actually. I think it's a worse Arcane Intellect. Would you run 4 Arcane Intellects in Arena?

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Yeah. I'm currently running 2x Light of the Naaru in my Priest Control deck, and I'm very strongly considering taking them out, because I have been consistently unimpressed when I could add Shadow Madness or Recombobulator or a second Lightbomb or really anything that actually makes an impact on the board in those spots, because the Lightwarden just doesn't do enough at the point where you're going to be playing Light of the Naaru.

Unfortunately, Lightwarden is too much of a "Best Case Scenario Mentality" card.

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It looks solid enough. No guide will work for everyone, though. I suggest watching someone else play Arena as well, it lets you see things that you might not have seen before.

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If you're having trouble with Arena, take a little extra time to talk/think through your plays to determine if there's a better possible play, or what could go wrong if you go with your initial idea. Think about things like Flamestrike/Holy Nova/Polymorph.

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i'm kind of upset that a game that has as much depth as it does has so little in the way of built in statistics. what a missed opportunity.

"it would be too confusing for our users". Just like having more than 9 deck slots.

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what's wrong with classic packs? i have yet to spend money on this game. i actually haven't been tempted yet, unlike LoL where I pretty much spent money as soon as I started.

There's nothing wrong with classic packs, but a bunch of streamers accidentally bought classic packs right when GvG came out, because apparently people don't know how to read. EDIT: and they already had most, if not all, of the cards in classic.

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JAraxxus is good?

when i tried him in arena, i was dead the turn after i played him, every time.

Arena and Constructed are

very

different metagames.

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Blessing of Might is fine as a way to make your hero power dudes work as a removal spell. It's nothing special, but it does a job if it needs to.

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I prefer trying random stuff in Ranked, actually. It lets me feel more comfortable playing.

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I think I agree with his main points. The problem that I see is that, if you get rid of it, how do you deal with Warlock Giants? I'm not a game designer, so I don't have a good answer, but it's definitely a real problem that doesn't have many better solutions that exist, if any.

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I added my information. Kept forgetting about it every time I could get to my ID.

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I put something really dumb together for Heroic Grim Guzzler

Spoiler: because I could

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I think the problem with Hearthstone is that their reward system encourages playing as many games as quickly as possible, which leads to aggro decks being the best choices so you can get through the most number of games possible.

Who wants to play 45 minute control priest v control warrior games when you could get 3-4 face hunter games in that amount of time for triple the reward?

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the Paladin class challenge was very fun for me, but actually difficult, unlike the rest of them. It's kind of a weird combo-y deck

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Don't get all classes to level 10 on ladder or against bots. Challenge a friend and let them concede to you repeatedly until you get to level 10.

Isn't that against Terms of Service?

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That and netdecking both kinda water the game down, I think.

Netdecking can give you a perfect 100% match of what to play, though, you can see what a famous streamer was running 10 minutes ago and play it, while the Arena client gets close to telling you what AWDCTA would pick, but can't tell you exactly what he would pick, since he can't possibly get all the nuances of changing valuations into the software (although there's lots of logic built into it like, you only need N 3 drops, you only need N silences, etc, that gets as close as possible)

So Arena is still the less corrupted one.

Sadly you probably have to play a whole lot of Arena to do better than exactly obeying a guide from a player as good as AWDCTA or any other drafter who has put in hours upon hours.

There's nothing at all wrong with netdecking. Some people get a lot more enjoyment out of taking a known quantity and trying to do as well as they can with it.

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Finally started playing this again after not playing since pre-TGT/LOE(and I don't think Tavern Brawl had started either. At least, I hadn't played one). I had gotten a new phone and forgotten to remove my authenticator and didn't want to deal with removing it. Remembering how much I enjoyed just playing this for small bursts at a time.

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I didn't think leper gnome was ever overpowered, no clue why it got nerfed.

I assume because it was an auto-include in every single aggro deck and they want to see whether they can get some cards that are less automatic in every deck. At least, that's my thinking.

I'm mostly upset about Blade Flurry. I like playing Rogue and now the card feels way too clunky.

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Druid seems fine to me. The changes they made seem perfectly reasonable

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Kibler's latest upload makes you realize that:

1) Freeze Mage should have gotten a nerf because it's dumb.
2) Thaurissan was a terrible card to make.

Cost reduction mechanics are very rarely fair in any way.

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I cannot wait to play Yogg-Saron decks forever.

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Opened a Fandrel Staghelm.
Is he used in anything or no?

Nobody knows yet, because it just came out. He seems very powerful and will probably be used in things.


Meanwhile, I'm over here playing with silly cards like Yogg'Saron and Renounce Darkness.

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Innervate + Y'Shaarj

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Just played a sweet game with my Reno/Yogg Priest against a Warrior. He seemed to be very impatient, as he played a C'Thun on fairly low stats for "value". So I got to Entomb/Reno in the same turn(Thanks Thaurissan!). At this point, he had no threats left in his deck, and just was at about 60 counting his armor. His draws got him to fatigue before me, so I felt I was in a good spot. This was confirmed when my Yogg Thistle Tea'd my Elise so I could add 3 more cards to the deck. Then he was down to 1 card, it was a Blood to Ichor. I had 3 Elises on the field, he had a Gorehowl. He conceded to my map when he realized I still had a C'Thun, plus I'd get about 7 legendaries from Monkey,

plus

I had my hero power to keep me ahead of him in the fatigue race since I could just heal at the same rate as him.

Ah, Priest. What a great class.

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I play really dumb decks that are silly things I think of, so if you want to see someone at about rank 18 playing silly things because I like a particular card, feel free to spectate me!

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So I was out of the game between August of last year and May of this year. Is there a reason they don't have Gnomes vs. Goblins in the shop anymore? Same for the Naraxxas campaign, but I'm guessing that got scrapped because it was stealing people's money.

There was a new format released after Blizzard decided for a few reasons that they didn't want every card able to be used forever.

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Standard_format

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Seems kinda dumb they took those sets from the shop though given that Wild Format still allows them.

You can still craft the cards. I think it's dumb they took Naxx away because it's actual game content(the Adventure) that new players now cannot access. But, you know, the technology isn't there.