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I'd play. I enjoy Hearthstone. Always Cleric never not Cleric

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So I want to start playing HS more. I have all the free decks unlocked (except Shaman and Warlock because I can not win with them for whatever reason). I liked Mage and Rogue the most. Which ones should I be building with, and crafting towards?

What I mean is, does Rogue get better as you add more cards, or is it all Mage and Priest all the time?

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So I flipped around online. Is this Rogue list any good? http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/27229-rn ... dget-rogue

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I just don't really like the Zoo list. Hunter is definitely an option though. That said, my heart tells me to play fringe-y bad decks and see how good I can get with them, so I'm just going to build the Neutrals first and see where it leads.

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So I decided to try and make a decent Mage deck. Found a cheap list online that I could make by disenchanting all my non-Mage cards. So far, moved up to Rank 23 with very little resistance.

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Nah, this one: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/61713-tides-budget-mage

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So far favourite opener:

T1: Coin, Knife Juggler
T2: Sorcerer's Apprentice, Mirror Image, Mirror Image

Rank 20 now

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Cracked the three GvG packs I had. Pulled a gold Ancestor's Call to go with the literally no Shaman cards I have, so I'm probably going to Dust it for Mage cards. Feels bad Dusting gold cards though.

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I'm probably taking that same list. Mechamage sounds like it's right up my alley

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I finally got enough Dust to craft Archmage Antonidas. Never going back to a non-Antonidas world.

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So I've started playing MechaMage because I enjoy the strategy (as well as Unstable Portal)

This is my list:

2 Clockwork Gnome
2 Mana Wyrm
2 Flamecannon
2 Frostbolt
2 Unstable Portal
2 Annoy-o-Tron
2 Mechwarper
2 Snowchugger
1 Harvest Golem
2 Spider Tank
2 Tinkertown Technician
2 Fireball
1 Polymorph
2 Goblin Blastmage
1 Jeeves
1 Loatheb
1 Flamestrike
1 Archmage Antonidas

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MechaMage is fairly cheap to build too, and the most expensive card (Archmage Antonidas) happens to also be an incredibly good card for Mage decks, so the Dust isn't wasted.

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I just have the Archmage and have had it for a while now. Can't seem to pull anything else.

All you need is Antonidas anyway.

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Okay, so Sneed's Old Shredder, or Loatheb in MechaMage while I'm trying to grind Arena for Sylvanas?

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So I've hit Rank 14, and I'm coming up against a Druid deck that's beating me senseless. It's a control deck that's mostly just heals, and both-players-draw cards to run me out of cards. It feels like a really strong deck, but I haven't seen it anywhere. Am I just missing it? What do I need to do to beat it?

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I ended up at one point where the only Minion I had left was a Jeeves. It was so much worse somehow

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I built Dr Boom instead of Sylvanas for MechaMage. No regrets on that one, though it did put me a little high on 7-drops

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Thanks reck, that should help a lot!

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So I went 5-3 in Arena earlier somehow. Even managed to beat a Mage who had drafted Archmage Antonidas.

Also opened a Vol'Jin in my prize pack. No idea what I'll do with it.

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I feel stuck on MechaMage right now because of that. Tried moving to a Hunter Beast list and a Shaman Mech list and dropped from 14-16, and then went on a 7-game winning spree with MechaMage again. Landing Antonidas+Cloakfield off a Clockwork Golem is insane.

I'm trying to put together a Druid list I saw on Brian Kibler's stream, but I'm missing Cenarius, 2 Hobgoblins, and The Black Knight, so I imagine I won't get to play that deck any time soon.

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One of the better Arena rewards I've gotten.

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What's your list? I'm curious to see how similar we are.

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I want to build Mech Mage but I can't convince myself to craft Antonidas.

Just imagine your Turn 8 being this: Archmage Antonidas -> Finicky Cloakfield

1x Cogmaster
2x Flamecannon
2x Frostbolt
2x Annoy-o-Tron
2x Mechwarper
2x Micro Machine
2x Arcane Intellect
2x Spidertank
2x Tinkertown Technician
2x Fireball
1x Polymorph
1x Goblin Blastmage
1x Mechnical Yeti
2x Piloted Shredder
1x Azure Drake
1x Loatheb
2x Sludge Belcher
2x Flamestrike
1x Pyroblast

Hmm... i have a slightly different one I'm hovering with around lvl 15. Not much, but I'm surprised you don't run 2x Goblin Blastmage.

2x Clockwork Gnome
2x Cogmaster
2x Frostbolt
2x Annoy-o-Tron
2x Mechwarper
1x Micro Machine
2x Snowchugger
2x Harvest Golem
1x Spider Tank
2x Tinkertown Technician
2x Fireball
2x Goblin Blastmage
1x Jeeves
2x Mechanical Yeti
2x Piloted Shredder
1x Azure Drake
1x Fel Reaver
1x Pyroblast

Neat, my list is similar, but not the same. I'm currently sitting at Rank 14 with three stars:

2x Clockwork Gnome
2x Cogmaster
2x Frostbolt
2x Annoy-O-Tron
2x Mechwarper
2x Snowchugger
2x Harvest Golem
2x Spider Tank
2x Tinkertown Technician
2x Fireball
2x Goblin Blastmage
2x Mechanical Yeti
2x Piloted Shredder
2x Azure Drake
1x Loatheb
1x Archmage Antonidas

I had Dr Boom for a while because the card is hilarious, but I ended up cutting it for Loatheb just to have something cheap that slows down my opponent. I'm considering running Sylvanas, Harrison Jones, or Toshley, but I don't have them or anywhere close to enough spare Dust.

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I really need the Naxramas stuff but I can't bring myself to fork over the cash. Loatheb and mad scientist are great.

Naxxramas is a ton of fun, fwiw. The Class Challenges are really interesting too (except Hunter, where you get a deck of 30 Web Spinners against Loatheb. Pray to RNGesus beforehand)

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Oh, I loved it, but it was a wonderful romp through RNG land instead of a class-specific challenge.

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Dude. Awesome.

^. This is sweet

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I would really consider Cogmaster over Mana Wyrm. You want to save spare parts for Antonidas, instead of using them to buff Mana Wyrm.

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Bought 2 Classic packs following Reck's spreadsheet's recommendation. Got a Leeroy Jenkins. Running him in a Hunter deck. Feels slightly strong.

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Kel'Thuzad. It's the endgame reward from Naxxramas. At end of turn, it resummons all friendly minions who died that turn.

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So I decided to follow HearthArena for a draft. Stuck to what it suggested, ended up 0-3. Literally my worst performance ever. Felt like I just never saw relevant cards at all.

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Okay, so the 0-3 Arena run pack had an Antonidas in it, so now I have enough Dust to craft a new Legend. Suggestions? I currently have Antonidas, Dr Boom, and Leeroy.

EDIT: Changed my mind on crafting a Legend. Crafted everything I needed for Hobgoblin Druid. Got to live the dream turn 1: Innervate, Innervate, Coin, Hobgoblin, Echoing Ooze, Argent Squire.

I'm running this list:
except I'm running either an Enhance-o-Mechano or a Kel'Thuzad instead of Cenarius, since I don't have the Dust.

Up to Rank 11 from Rank 16 in a very short time.

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I really love this Druid deck, but not having Cenarius is actually killing my win percentage. I swapped in a Stormwind Champion to get the closest to his effect, but there have been 5 separate games so far where having the +2/+2 of Cenarius would have won me the game on the spot, and I ended up losing instead. I'm at 0 dust too, adn I really don't want to chase Cenarius through buying packs

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Man, Boom is the best (next to Cenarius)

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Dude, Hobgoblin Druid is a shitload of fun. I posted the decklist on the last page. Uses Boom, Cenarius, and Loatheb as the only Legendaries, and a ton of cheap cards.

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I've got a weird Kel'Thuzad Priest deck that I'm dicking around with. Turns out having Feugen/Stalagg with Kel'Thuzad is strong. Also Cairne Bloodhoof and Dr Boom. Recurring Boom Bots is disgusting.

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The only way you get the Excess Mana is if it gives you a Crystal (Wild Growth and friends)

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It's still a really strong card. It's a 1/2 that gets value from literally any creature in a Zoo deck. This nerf seems perfect for making Hunter not quite as powerful while still leaving Undertaker as a strong 1-drop for Deathrattle themes.

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Ugh. I lost to Jaraxxus yesterday. Had him at 1 as Mage, but was 1 mana shy of Fireblasting him for lethal. Both of us are emptyhanded, and then I hear YOU FACE JARAXXUS, ELDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION, and lost fairly soon after.

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mother

fucking

arena

I swear I'm going to just start picking cards I think are bad because EVERY TIME I am super happy with a draft, I go like 0-3 and get destroyed.

I tried this exact strategy and went 3-3. This is after I went 1-3 with a deck that had a great curve, a Faceless Manipulator, a Sneed's Old Shredder, a Foe Reaper 4000, and a bunch of other good Druid stuff (and 3 Innervates)

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So I threw this together after realizing I love basically every card in it. It's pretty great, but I'm trying to figure out what I could improve on. I'm something like 15-1 so far in Ranked, so I'm up to R14

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Is there a better feeling than an opponent adding you after a game to tell you how you "only won because you got lucky" and should "enjoy being a scrub"?

My new favourite response is "Thanks, I'm really happy I won too"

Incidentally, I'm probably swapping out the Unbound Elementals for Spider Tanks, just for extra Mech synergy

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Changed the list up a bit, went online, saw a list that was almost identical that hit Legend.

Big switch: Foe Reaper 4000 -> Dr Boom and added a Doomhammer

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I want to run other Legendaries, but the Doc is just soooooooo gooooooood

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I kinda like the FIrebat list a lot more after watching it a bit onstream. The Controlly elements on my original folded pretty hard to MechaMage (or I was playing it wrong)

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My new record for greedbag lethal. First game of the morning, figured I'd do something stupid, and it paid off

Also, as a sidenote, don't try random stuff in Ranked. Trying to make a Priest deck work put me down like 4 ranks.

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Now that I fixed my comptuer and can finally play things again, ALL I SEE IS MECHMAGE EVERYWHERE. And it's such a fucking bitch. What do?

I find that Druid has a really good matchup against it. Wrath hits Mechwarper nicely, taunt dudes like Druid of the Claw and Ironbark Protector deal with everything else, and you just outright win lategame if they don't hit Antonidas.

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http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/197999-senx-rank-1-eu

The only legendary cards are boom and loatheb both of which are insanely good standalone cards that get played in everything. No epics here.

Zombie chow, snap jaw, stampeding kodo and explosive /snake trap could replace similar counterparts that you don't have off the top of my hrad. Also rag, cairne, sylvanas could replace boom.

I hate how much I love this deck. It's everything I dislike, but it's so much fun to play (and also carried me up 6 ranks so far)

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I honestly want to play Handlock just for the Jaraxxus VoiceOver. I have not yet gotten sick of YOU FACE JARAXXUS, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION

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Yeah, there's a fuckload of Oil Rogues running around right now (I'm at about R13). I'm usually playing Paladin Midrange or Ramp Druid right now, and I feel like a champion ata the Oil Rogue matchup

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Hey AP, what Pally build are you running? I feel like I'm missing something really good that's not just the one Lay on Hands that I don't have.

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YOU FACE JARAXXUS, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION.

OBLIVION!!!!!!!

That belongs in a museum!

YOU WIN, BUT YOUR WORLD IS STILL DOOMED

^The entire reason I want to get Demonlock together at some point.

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http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/205673-o ... end-ladder is fairly close to the usual Oil Rogue list.

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So I updated my Druid list. Turns out running 2 Force of Nature/Savage Roar combos is good.

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I really like Thalnos, but I play Oil Rogue, and he's super good in that list. Jaraxxus has the best voiceover in the game, Antonidas will push your MechMage to entirely new heights, and Harrison is really strong in the current meta.

Tbh, I think I'd recommend The Black Knight over Harrison. Sludge Belcher and Annoy-o-Tron are ubiquitous, and being able to murder them and leave behind a 4/5 is really nice.

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3 (maybe 4) out of 9 classes use weapons consistently, and even then they don't always have one up, so Harrison is just sort of useless in those matches, where The Black Knight has at least one Neutral, heavily used target (Belcher), and one incredibly common deck with a cheap target (Annoy-o-tron). I think it's up to you, really.

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Why would Harrison have unique synergy with certain classes when its utility is based mainly on the opponent?

It doesn't have synergy with classes you play, it has synergy based on what the most common matchups are. For example, I'm at Rank 12 right now. I played for about two hours today, and I came up against Mech Mage and Druid a LOT. In both of those matchups, Harrison is useless, while The Black Knight is incredible, so for me where I am, I would craft TBK 100% of the time.

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First one was tons of fun, last was really really hard with Ramp Druid and really fun with Paladin.

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Oh my god the Mage class challenge is everything I could have hoped for.

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I enjoyed it because it was stupid and cheesy, not for any skill aspect. Sometimes you just want to throw 30 Unstable Portals at RNGesus and see what sticks, you know?

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I've been running Emperor Thaurissan in Ramp Druid. Shit's pretty strong on T4

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I would too if I didn't have Hex. There's pretty much no winning once he starts reducing everything.

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Wing 2 itself is pretty fun though. I kind of cheesed it out with Ramp Druid, but they all gave me a fair bit of challenge

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Android too. I have it loading on my Nexus phone right now. This is going to be unfortunate for my wallet.

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Owing to some questionable impulse-buys (Thanks, double Hemet Nesingwary), I now have 1600 Dust. Should I craft Bloodmage Thalnos, Harrison Jones, or Ragnaros? I'm big on Ramp Druid, MechMage, and that weird MechWarrior list Elk posted a bit back.

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Yeah, the Ranked Ladder means that being able to play 5 Hunter games (and win 3-4) is way more valuable than playing 1-2 Control Warrior games (and winning 1). It seems like that is less prevalent the higher on the ladder you get, which makes sense, since every deck/player at the top of the ladder has beaten Face Hunter a LOT.

That said, I find myself playing Paladin Midrange and Ramp Druid more than anything else, because I win the most with them.

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I think if I were to craft a golden rare from Blackrock, it'd be Grim Patron. Though inconsistent, I've honestly never had more fun than playing Grim Patron Warrior.

I'm a convert. The deck's so much god damned fun.

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Alex before Onyxia, imo. Even if you're crafting towards Dragon Paladin, Alexstrasza is much more useful

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I feel like it has to be better than Onyxia, but I don't have any of the Dragons to test it. Purely from looking, playing a possible T7 Alex (T6 with Coin) feels like it'd be pretty hard for them to come back from, plus Alex can save you late-game, which Onyxia doesn't do.

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True enough. What would you get out of Onyxia that's better?

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How much early damage are you going to be getting out of the deck though? In any situation where they have higher than about 18-20 HP, Alex is getting in for at least half a hit before any possible Shadow Word or other kill spell bullshit happens

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Hey Glork, what does your Grim Patron deck look like these days?

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I mean, if he counted 25 total tries, it would be literally 25

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The only deck I seem to win with lately is ZooLock. I miss being able to win with Paladin and RampDruid.

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I mean, if he counted 25 total tries, it would be literally 25

^

also...play Dragon Pally!

I have literally just Deathwing for Dragon Legendaries, so I don't see it happening any time soon, but it's on my list

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Also Whirlwind to enable the Whirlwind/Execute value.

I'm continuing with my inability to win Ranked Games with anything that's not ZooLock this past week. Made a personal best on Ranked last month with it, so I shouldn't really complain. Probably crafting either Mal'Ganis or Alexstrasza next to enable either Demonlock or DragonPaladin.

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Is this cheaper than Magic? More fun than Magic? As a new player, is it worth getting into, and what's the best way to go about it?

Short-term more expensive, long-term cheaper. There's no trading between people, so you end up needing to invest the full cost of the cards, plus sink time into beating the two single-player expansions.

Complexity-wise, it's a LOT simpler. I prefer Magic for longer games and more diverse card effects, while Hearthstone is quick, easy to play, and pretty darn fun. There aren't any Hero classes that are totally useless in the current meta, and there's a lot of build-around cards that are actually viable.

I think your best bet getting into the game is to buy a bunch of packs and try to build from there, or sink $2 in to an Arena run and see if you enjoy the game.

Best advantage over MTGO: No hauling a laptop into the bathroom if you want to play.

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When you get it up and running, add me and we can play some games bv310#1740

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Craft Thalnos or Alexstraza?

^^^^^

I think that got lost in the shuffle.

Do you play Oil Rogue? If yes, Thalnos. If no, Alex

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Got level 10 with Paladin for Blessing of Kings, decided to jump in the ranked play, see what's up. I'm really enjoying it, so far. Simple to play, yet with a surprising depth of strategy, and it doesn't take forever to play. Could wind up spending a lot of money on it, I fear, but I'll see how far I can get with the basic cards...

Yeah, that's where I was a few months ago. Now I'm only a half-dozen Legendaries from having all the good ones. It's nearly as bad as MTG for my wallet.

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Pretty easy. The main Naxxramas Adventure missions can all be played with a deck like yours and you'll be fine. Plus Loatheb alone is worth it. That card is bonkers good.

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I moved to ZooLock specifically to beat the hilarious volume of MechMage and FaceHunter at the ranks I was at.

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Assuming they don't AoE clear it, yeah

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Yeah, that challenge was a bitch and a half. I vaguely recall luck-sacking top decks and winning off that

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I'd cut a Slam for a Loot Hoarder. The card draw and body are more relevant most of the game, and it can help you cantrip off of Whirlwind later on.

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PRAISE RNGESUS!

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So, new deck that I saw on stream that's actually working out: Dragon Rogue! I swear I'm not just doing it because I need 5 Rogue wins for two different "Dominance" quests

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Am I the only one who feels like the only way to climb ladder is face hunter?

Nah man, all about that Demonlock.

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Meh, I can't imagine buying all of them. Might buy Magni because I really dislike Garrosh, but no interest past that, unless the Warlock is really awesome.

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My LoL account proves that I am exactly the target audience for these.

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So the Ragnaros/Nefarian Tavern Brawl is sweet. I've won one as Rag and one as Nef, so I've decided to retire champion.

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I'm playing nearly the same thing, but with Dr Boom instead of Nefarian. Shit's pretty fun, tbh.

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(hs really needs a comprehensive rulebook that isn't fucking patched together from TWEETS)

^

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Nozdormu #1

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I mean, Majordomo at least has a really awful combo deck to it. B

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Woo! Fuck you, Patron!

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So I'm getting back into HS while I try and find a Magic deck that I really want to play (that's not an EDH deck). Playing Tempo Mage atm. Any specific tech for the balls-out aggro matcjhups? I'm finding them a bit tough.

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So I put in two Arcane Missiles, and haven't dropped a match yet. Arcane with Flamewaker out is too much fun.

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I don't know what that is.

Ben Brode is the main designer who has an account on twitter. A LOT of features that get requested by players get turned down for "being confusing to new players". Things like extra deck slots get dismissed by this to the point that it's mostly just a meme

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IDK man, I only played the matchup once and won easily. On tempostorm, that's what they say is supposed to happen, so I just took it as truth.

What is this midrange rogue deck with unearthed raptor and where did it come from?

pEdit: yeah, most of the shaman lists have finley in there now.

Edit: I finally beat Dragon priest with tempo mage. It took a very lucky very fast hand. 2 fireballs, 2 sorc apprentices, 2 arcane missles, 5 mana discover guy and mana wyrm. And I think I had a frostbolt in there. He also missed his 2 drop taunt man and played it on 3 - which seems to be the leading cause of any dragon priest loss, either he doesn't drop on 2 or you don't have another dragon in hand. I kinda wish I could play it, but I basically have none of it. Only the expansion pack stuff and Azure Drake.

Raptor Rogue is sooooooo much fun. Just Deathrattle Effects and good stuff. Putting a Piloted Sky Golem deathrattle on Unearthed Raptor is a rad feeling.