The StarCraft II thread

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/in before idra's next tantrum.

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HD and Husky should burn in the fiery pits of hell. ASAP.

Although, the video of Husky teaching Shaycarl how to play starcraft, followed by Day[9] yelling at shaycarl vs. Husky was quite amusing.

Other than that, yes. Burn.

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This is probably a good place to put this:

No funday monday today.

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I saw that before, and it still makes me chuckle.

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Got promoted to platinums

Woo! Congrats! (I could probably get promoted if I played more than 3 games every month...)

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So, in about 2 hours of playing the demo so far, I've decided that I'm a Protoss player. Now to develop some kind of strategy.

Always build probes. Build pylons. Warp shit in.

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I can swear by the cult of Day[9] have been watching his cast the past week or so, and while I still suck, at least now I have a more concrete idea of where I suck and can work to improve on it.

TBM, that second replay was intense, glad you didn't buckle under pressure.

Plus, how can you not be entertained by funday monday?

@Tans: I basically suck too, I'll play some games eventually if you want.

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I suck as well. TBM refuses to play with me but he doesn't outright say it, and just awkwarldy avoids me when I'm online.


You should make it up to the newbies by hosting/observing a newb off between tans, me zito and flameaxen and giving us advice.

I call zitos team if we 2v2!!

Official Mafiascum Shitty at SC2 League, gogogogo.

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I suck as well. TBM refuses to play with me but he doesn't outright say it, and just awkwarldy avoids me when I'm online.


You should make it up to the newbies by hosting/observing a newb off between tans, me zito and flameaxen and giving us advice.

I call zitos team if we 2v2!!

PZ
Flameaxe
fate
Myself

Lets rock some 2v2...

Does it do 4v4?... too lazy to google

That works I guess. I was just gonna say to make our own mini 1v1 league, haha.

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Argh. Just when I go on a trip...

If you guys do a mini league, I'll be back Monday.

We can call up until you're back "pre-season".

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Buhbuhbam 884

I'll get on in a little bit.

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Flameaxe 1-0 Fate.

Yeah.

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Before I run, the highlight of the match went like this:

Fate: I SEE YOUR OBSERVER
Me: I SEE YOUR NUKES
Fate: SHIT

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Woo! I won a ladder game. Go me. It's nice to have an observer sit on top of a terran's base for nearly 15 minutes...Makes counters quite easy.

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I only wish all Terrans would try to out-turtle me as protoss.Seriously, I got like 3 easy wins because of it today.

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I thought turtling only worked as Terran. Educate me, please.

Basically what FATE said (caps intentional ). Protoss (if played correctly) has a lot of power late in the game. If you don't pressure them, they pretty much get free reign to expand as much as they please. Lots of expansions, lots of warpgates = fun!

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Control + number.

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PS: I'm terribad at zerg, and I know this, and thus, I never plan on seriously playing zerg.

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JD and I are making fun of your zerg pushes that look like toss pushes and minute long vomit times

I play toss, what do you expect....?

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I suck as well. TBM refuses to play with me but he doesn't outright say it, and just awkwarldy avoids me when I'm online.


You should make it up to the newbies by hosting/observing a newb off between tans, me zito and flameaxen and giving us advice.

I call zitos team if we 2v2!!

Official Mafiascum Shitty at SC2 League, gogogogo.

I'm going to start working on making this happen. If you're interested, you should post about it.

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Interested (6):

BBM
PEG
JDodge
Ultima Avalon
Fate
SaintKerrigan

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If we have enough, I don't see why we can't have a 2v2 league and a 1v1 league (I just despise 2v2, and 3v3, and 4v4...)

Interested (9):

BBM
PEG
JDodge
Ultima Avalon
Fate
SaintKerrigan
Claus
Papa Zito
Tans
(Quag?)

Eight seems like a good number. Not sure how to do the league itself. Was thinking about doing an 'everybody plays everybody' season style to figure out seeding for a tourney, thoughts?

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I like pool over ladder, personally.

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I just started editing 259 instead of copying and adding to the list, its easier.

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Alright, part bump, part wanting input. Talking with JD about how to format it all, and we have two options:
-One giant round robin where everyone plays everyone once, leading to a seeded 8p single elimination bracket.
-Two smaller "division" round robins of 4/5 players, where the top two of each division moves on to a 4p single elimination bracket.

It basically boils down to the commitment of playing on the upwards of (minimum) 8/9 games vs. playing a minimum of 3/4 games. Obviously, organizing times to play against 4 people is a lot easier than 8.

As for smaller details, the bracket stages will most likely be a best of three, map 1 chosen by the higher seed, map 2 by the lower seed, map three randomly generated? We can do that or give each player two map vetoes from the list of 1v1 maps and figure it out from there. We'll use the standard set of 1v1 maps used in ladder play (Jungle Basin, Scrap Station, Steppes of

Cheese

War, Xel'Naga Caverns, Delta Quadrant, Lost Temple, Metalopolis).

I was going to mention something else, but I can't remember.

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NO. It's just casually official. Promise.

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It's casually competitive. I'm fine with 1 veto, actually. Don't know why I said two, so ignore me. I'll leave it up to you guys for changing races.

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I have no issues with it.

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And frequently!

Edit: Closed it off at 10 (sans tans), and seeded them according to league placement and then 1v1 points scored. Of course, only 5 of the 10 had points to begin with, so we randomly seeded the rest 6-10. We split the seeds across both groups close to evenly.

Group One:
Seed 1 SaintKerrigan (Z)
Seed 4 Fate (?)
Seed 5 Flameaxe (P)
Seed 8 JDodge (R)
Seed 9 UA (T)

Group Two:
Seed 2 Marksman (My roommate, by the way. Playercode 977) (Z)
Seed 3 Claus (T?)
Seed 6 Zito (T)
Seed 7 Quag (P)
Seed 10 PEG (P)

You play each person in your group once, report it here I guess. Spectators are totally cool, refs aren't (obviously, don't want any talkie talkie from a third-party). We can call this the official starting point, unless someone has any pressing issues with the format or whatever. Speak up if you do, no harm done really. We won't have any set deadlines or schedules for completing games, but be reasonable. Map rules are on the last page, any suggestions on how to determine which map for the group stage matches would be cool. Top two advance to the knockout stage, 1st place group 1 vs 2nd place group 2, 1st place group 2 vs. 2nd place group one. In theory, we should all have one race we stick to throughout, but I don't see a huge reason to be strict on that.

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Edited the post above with seeding info and stuff. Regarding ICCup maps, we might want to hold off for the "BSL Season One" as I call it. (BSL = Bad (at) Starcraft League). A few new players would probably benefit from sticking to blizzard ladder maps to start.

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we should cast this.

Or you could get on and spectate...

Marksman def. Quag.

Flameaxe def. JDodge.

Updated tables for wins/losses here.

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The evenings second round of games has occurred.

JDodge def. Ultima Avalon

Fate def. JDodge

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The table has been updated to show this.

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I meant to do that..I'll make one now.

Edit: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 10&t=16039

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Crossfire, yay!

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Off-topic, 0/10.

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What are some good mid-to-late toss game strategies after 4gating?

There are none, if you four gate correctly you should have won already.

Serious answer: What PEG said, and don't rely on four gate quite as often. 3 gate robo does plenty of wonders too (3 gate star works too if you want).

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Wow, that guy was kind of a twat. Hiding your orbital in the corner and defend it with vikings. Its like he wants to tie...

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Still, lifting off and hiding your base in the corner of a map is sort of a low move, even for bronze.

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But the difference is, he had his main building in the air, off the map. He can't collect resources, and he can't sustain an army, so he really can't make the argument that he's playing for the win (at the time he had maybe two marines scattered about, and one starport to make vikings of all things.)

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Part two: Practice for the BSL season two. We want more players.

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Get out of the practice league, it'll only mess you up down the road.

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I'm not exactly "good" myself, but I'll totally take a look too. If we all help each other get better, we can eventually all become pros and make a Mafiascum Pro team.

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And just out of reach!

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The campaign is fun, but really won't help you in the long run. If anything, hit up the challenges off to the side of the single player menu. They will be much, much more helpful than the campaign. They will also help you with the other two questions for that matter.

That and what Shanba said, basically. AI games are a good way to start practicing a build order and figuring out hotkeys and stuff.

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Ghost avatar FTW.

Just now making my way through the campaign on hard mode, then I got CoD Black OPs and FE Radiant Dawn in the mail

SOOOOOOOOOO

BACKBURNER

Starcraft -except- for the BSL backburner, amirite? (I better be right, damnit.)

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My few cents: Basically, a 3 gate proxy isn't very strong from my own experience. If you get 3 gates, you might as well get that 4th and make it a 4gate. To be honest, your transition wasn't terrible. The only thing I'd say would be to choose a robo bay or stargate to tech, not both (at least at that point, later on it really doesn't matter). Also, if you go for Colossi, research and chrono boost extended thermal lance from the robo bay. It really is a must have for the colossi. Fill your army with a good chunk of stalkers and sentries, and start some upgrades from the forge as soon as you can afford it.

Thats what comes to mind from me, inb4diamond corrects me.

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I hate that sound. Obv.

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It's only a win if you actually start playing first.

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I started classes last week, not as much xbox time.

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MY CARRIERS SO SLOW AND NOT DETECTOR-Y.

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He's in the chart on the first page as my roommate. Someone go update that.

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Anyone up for some games tonight?

Put this guy where "Flameaxe's Roommate" is. Not your fault, just no one mentioned he got an account here.

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I don't see many EA games price dropping after 7 months either you know...QQ?

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many =/= any ... just sayin'

Also Flameaxe, Stef cried for like 2 hours straight last night on Halo. She was disappointed that you never play with us any more. You were always "the funniest unicorn", she said. Fritz has tried to fill that spot, and God knows I have done what I can too, but it's just not the same without you baby.

I'm ahead on homework for now, if I can stay ahead I might be able to jump on for a while. But this topic is for another thread!

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I love getting raged at by a zerg after the go s-ling/b-ling/muta and my 3 attack marines and 2 attack thors crush him. Then he says my micro is awful. hahahaha

Dude, your macro is shit. Such bullshit.[/quote]

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I totally would do that for you but he actually isn't here tonight.

Plus, we don't exactly drink beer to have a beer can on hand...

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KEYWORD: EMPTY.

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I'd be down too. What's it called?

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I might be convinced to join the WotW.

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Even easier (conceptually, not as much for the players) would be a round robin where the top 4 move on to single elim. Plus, more games = more casting = more fun for everyone.

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That's ridiculous, put me back in.

You seem to have missed that cool thing called a requirement to be in bronze or silver. That's why you were taken off.

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Reck is wildly exagerrating too, I'm Diamond in 2v2 arranged team, gold 2v2 and 3v3 random team, platinum 3v3 arranged team and platinum 4v4 random team.

all of which are above silver

I said if I was solo I would be silver.

Why don't we play a game, and if I own you no contest then we agree that I'm too good for this tournament.

Because throwing a game is soooooooo hard.

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If ABR is in, I'm out.

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I'll get on in a little. I haven't played a game of SC2 in about 2 months though, so I have some catching up to do.

WHY YOU PEOPLE GET ON AFTER I GET OFF RAAAAGE

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I just laughed way more than I should have.

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I'd be available to organize a tournament (prior experience, neutral party yadda yadda) although I will say previous attempts suffered from pretty severe apathy in actually scheduling the matches.

QUIET YOU.