New Rule: Replace the Word "Lynch" in Games

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Post Post #126 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:57 am

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We should just make all cops default to paranoid.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #1) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:10 am

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In post 135, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 133, Ythan wrote:
In post 132, Elsa Jay wrote:regardless of their good nature
Lol.
So your saying all cops are evil now or something?
They aren't evil, they are (in the us especially) just allowed to use lethal force, broadly protected legally when using massively disproportionate force, and trained that everyone else is out to kill them.
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Post Post #320 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:16 pm

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OK serious posting. Are we going to change the site logo(s)?
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Post Post #331 (isolation #3) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:22 pm

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In post 326, Alisae wrote:This actually doesn't affect me then.
As a mod sure I have to change the word lynch around to something else, but to me thats not a big deal. I only put it in the final votecount when someone died and when I describe someone dieing during the day, I give them a death scene or just say that they died.

As a player my only real main concern was and if I can still use it and play the game, then all of my concerns go away, and I actually have no reason to hate this change.
The mods not forcing not using it on you doesn't mean you should keep using it.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 360, Enter wrote:
In post 345, AniX wrote:
In post 334, Enter wrote:
In post 332, AniX wrote:Me, very calmly: "You want me to stop using one word? This is turning every single mafia thread into USPol Part 2. That's it, I'm cancelling my game."
Your grasp of the situation is almost as good as that of Mufasa's.
Ok, so explain it to me. Why is this one word so important that you will cancel your entire game over it? Is it, as you say, you see the removal of the word as some blatant political act? If so, do you object to other politically based censorship that routinely occurs in games? Apparently not, those restrictions have been in place for a very long time, LONG before you even joined and you had no difficulty adhering to them. Slurs on the basis of orientation are relatively newly banned, for example. I recall referring to things as "gay" as a way to dismiss it was very vogue during the early years, but surely you wouldn't be able to refer to an argument in a mafia game you find lacking as "gay" now. I don't recall you cancelling any games over that policy stance, but perhaps I missed it.

It seems like your argument can't be "I oppose all politically based censorship" because you don't have any large objection to it otherwise. It seems like your argument is specifically "I oppose censorship on words I like and want to keep using". Which is an understandable position but not a very logical one, so we must conclude it is an emotional one and...here we are.
My argument is "I oppose all politically based censorship," or close enough to it. Your statements as to why it can't be that are invalid given I'm unaware of any preceding site-wide decree from the administration banning the use of any specific word or words. If you'd like to show me a post that serves the same purpose as this one but for a different word, I'll relinquish my point, but given your argument seems to be more of that "people shouldn't use words that hurt other people and risk administrative action for doing so" is a form of censorship, I'd disagree with you.
Try saying the n word.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #5) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:41 pm

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In post 370, Ginngie wrote:please dont bait people into saying chesskid
My point was that there is a filter on it. You literally can't.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #6) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:08 pm

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In post 519, AniX wrote:you have to understand they aren't racist
This thread wants to prove you wrong.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #7) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:02 pm

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Stop while the hole is only so deep.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:12 pm

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In post 565, Alisae wrote:Let's be real here.
If we actually cared about this, people would have persued asking site administration to make this change a long time ago.
In fact, Lycan did that and I just remembered that that thread even existed.

If people cared, they would have said something.
Something being wrong and not being opposed previously is a really bad reason not to change it now.
You are right that it's a fair condemnation of a large part of the site that it took a larger zeitgeist to get us to change it, that also doesn't mean it's wrong to change it now.
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Post Post #604 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:34 pm

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In post 600, Nero Cain wrote:I'm curious, who here is actually offended by the word "lynch"?
People highly offended by the word would have self-selected not being here already.
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Post Post #755 (isolation #10) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:28 pm

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In post 739, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Lol people need to not over react so much.
Yes people can take authority to an extent.
But people are overreacting.
If that’s the site rule so be it I’m just saying people are taking things so heavily.
I do and always have believed in equality but nothing beyond that point that people seem to go across.
Once you go past that you will brake boundaries and set limitation to something that will only hurt in the long run.
Look at it this way.
There is no higher being as there is no lower being
Humans/Aliens/Animal Evolutions/Robots are no different from one another.
Everyone is but a single deity in this world. What each individual does is up to them and as such can cause distress to other individuals then someone needs to prevent that and so on so forth.
Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that certain stuff doesn’t or isn’t meant to refer to other stuff but anything related to it gets punished which is questionable.
An example is EVERY SINGLE TIME something bad happens with someone doing something and being banned or something.
Like I remember recently someone left a clan.
And what PEOPLE FUCKIN DO THAT’S STUPID is they over react and make things more then what they actually are.
They said the “20” year old dated a “13” year old girl which was false.
But people fuckin believe that BS.
What actually happened was this guy would always support his fans because they pay allot to see him.
And he’s NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE TO THEM LIKE HALF THE PEOPLE I FUCKIN SEE.
So he sends pictures of himself or something like that to his fans.
Well, one of his fans asks to kiss him and she was “13” and he did because he respects his fans and it’s nothing actually serious.
But people make it look more then it actually is.

I’m sick of the shit people do TBH.
Anywho so be it I’ll just use the word “Jettison” from now on, on this site.
No biggy. Just thought I’d express my thoughts on how I don’t get half of the fuckin earth logic.
What the fuck. WHAT THE FUCK.
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Post Post #776 (isolation #11) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:35 pm

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In post 763, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: Embrace the Truth.
In post 739, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:They said the “20” year old dated a “13” year old girl which was false.
But people fuckin believe that BS.

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So he sends pictures of himself or something like that to his fans.
Well, one of his fans asks to kiss him and she was “13” and he did because he respects his fans and it’s nothing actually serious.
But people make it look more then it actually is.
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Post Post #937 (isolation #12) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:28 pm

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Again, whether they are defacto effected officially or not doesn't really change that the community should also be making an effort to also change their language.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #13) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:43 pm

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There will probably be lots of corners cases that come up that haven't been thought of. Why are you bringing it up now? If it matters a mod can just ask their listmod.
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #14) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:23 am

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In post 776, chamber wrote:
In post 763, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: Embrace the Truth.
In post 739, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:They said the “20” year old dated a “13” year old girl which was false.
But people fuckin believe that BS.

...

So he sends pictures of himself or something like that to his fans.
Well, one of his fans asks to kiss him and she was “13” and he did because he respects his fans and it’s nothing actually serious.
But people make it look more then it actually is.
????
In post 1143, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Although Age is just you body/shell’s number.
Nothing to do with your soul.
This guy.
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