Micro 669 - Procrastination Mafia - At The End...(GAME OVER)
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My role-playing seems overdone and that is scummy enough to vote me? I am just curious how my roleplaying is AI, arent we suppose to procrastinate in this game and do lazy things? Its really just joking around with the flavor of the game.In post 57, BNL wrote:UNVOTE: Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Secret Angent Jin
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You are correct, i see where you are coming from with the skewed read thing. I was planning on only doing this until things moved out of the silly starting on the game phase and so now i am switching to actual posting.In post 74, drealmerz7 wrote:I don't think it is the RP that is bothering, I think it's just that it seems forced and overdone and that is not ever good because 1 it skews an ability to read you (and so just comes off scummy)
it's a nuanced thing, RPing
My first vote was just pure RVS, my second was because i had to take the opportunity to make a pun, and my unvote is because Zach was at three votes and it takes 5 to lynch iirc and i didnt want to be on a wagon that was voted up for no reason.-
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You think you have a hard time adjusting to MS? My HS runs mafia games that have. 72 hour Day Phases and 24 hour nights. Another site i play on have 48 hour days and 12 hour night phases.In post 137, drealmerz7 wrote:the hardest adjustment I have here is 2 day Nights - I usually like having 4-5 days to re-read the thread and digest things and reflect on it all
the game I modded had 5-7 day Nights simply because of the amount of NAs and flavor associated
scums gotta have time to use NC-
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I enjoy Great/Greater Idea Mafia type games but cant find them here much. I like the large choice of different game types here though.In post 147, drealmerz7 wrote:
yep I understand there's a good number of those, that sort of play doesn't appeal at all, nor is it conducive to what I can doIn post 146, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
You think you have a hard time adjusting to MS? My HS runs mafia games that have. 72 hour Day Phases and 24 hour nights. Another site i play on have 48 hour days and 12 hour night phases.In post 137, drealmerz7 wrote:the hardest adjustment I have here is 2 day Nights - I usually like having 4-5 days to re-read the thread and digest things and reflect on it all
the game I modded had 5-7 day Nights simply because of the amount of NAs and flavor associated
scums gotta have time to use NC
do you just like the variety MS provides?
I wanted something as close as I could get to my HS pace wise but some larger games and bigger variety of player exposure - MS seemed appealing especially with the large theme games so I am testing the waters here-
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Having painfully read through the back and forth between you two i think you are town based on the fact that through all of that arguing you still townread Dreal when, as scum, you could have easily made a case of his posts and turned it into a wagon. I dont know if i see eye to eye with you on the town!dreal read though. He is either scum or a townie that is sure he has scum in his sights.In post 197, Infinite Justice wrote:I'd like people to give their opinions on the back-and-forth between me and dreamer
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Get your vote off me mate, do you want me to OMGUS vote you?
I have been reading and personally i dont see scum!Gamma even though i would love to at this point. Personally i don't see scum anyone but i have a notoriously horrible ability to read anyone. I love to play these games but i really need to build a better sense of reading people.-
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Well we can assume i townread myself if that counts, i also solidly townread Ari and culted as she does seem to be genuine.In post 392, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Any solid townreads?In post 387, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Get your vote off me mate, do you want me to OMGUS vote you?
I have been reading and personally i dont see scum!Gamma even though i would love to at this point. Personally i don't see scum anyone but i have a notoriously horrible ability to read anyone. I love to play these games but i really need to build a better sense of reading people.-
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@culted I will take my one question to ask about the read on myself. It seems a few people scumread me but they just keep saying "i cant tell why" or "i dont exactly know why his posts seem scummy". Why do you scumread me? I would like some actual reasins that i am being voted so i can properly address the claims. In my experience scum (not saying you are) give vague scumreads of people so that the person cant defend themselves but still look scummy.-
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The vote counts shows we are not working together efficiently enough, that is basically a field day for scum, we need to be more in tune with each other and decide on who is scummy and not play into a chaos like scum wants us to.
@Dreal: I guess i can see why you say the sword/feather thing about IJ but what made you scum read the slot initially?
@Everyone: culted said that BnL and myself are the scum team, what links the two of us and if one flips scum, what makes the other obvscum from looking at the flip?-
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BnL and myself are the only two scumreads culted has. culted could have scum read us independently but if we are both scum in culted eyes then we must have something linking us or maybe something that looks like one of us is bussing the other. I am not scum and i cant talk for BnL but i can guarantee we are not scum together. As for my question to everyone about BnL and myself being linked, i was asking if anyone else sees BnL and myself as the scumteam. I also am not going to drop my vote on Gamma as it would be a compromise vote for me and there is enough time to scum hunt before a vote like that. Why comment on a question i being forth but never actually answer the question then say you are fine with a split vote count and soft push the fact you want my vote. That post is just distracting and, frankly, it makes me suspicious of you.In post 412, Infinite Justice wrote:
Why would anyone except culted agree with him that you two are linked? Culted didn't even say that himself, he just said that he has scumreads on both of you.In post 411, Secret Agent Jin wrote:@Everyone: culted said that BnL and myself are the scum team, what links the two of us and if one flips scum, what makes the other obvscum from looking at the flip?
Tbh I'm fine with the current vote count since there are 3 votes on gamma, but there are only 4 days left so I suggest getting a claim p soon
A great way to do this would be by voting gamma
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IJ just seems to get more scummy the more they post, im slowly swinging there way.
As for Zach, i just finished a game that was Town!Zach, he played the same way there. He is offensive and attacks whoever votes him like they should know he is town. He postes some mean things and was active in the game i played with him. He does seem more subdued here and more lurkery but his posts here still contain salt lkke in the other game. I really want to scumread Zach for his overall playstyle but it has stayed consistent with his previous town game so i give a townlean to Zach.-
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I have recently been reading IJ as scummy because of the insistence on people voting Gamma but not actually pointing out sufficient evidence for me to hop on. I want an IJ lynch but i am open to other lynches.
Culted, how confident are you of scum!BnL? Are you willing to choose someone else if there was time or are you sure of your vote?-
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I want to vote IJ but i would be alone and it wouldnt go anywhere this late into a day phase so i didnt vote them.In post 535, culted wrote:
Also there's currently no votes on IJ what universe are you living in right now?In post 532, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I have recently been reading IJ as scummy because of the insistence on people voting Gamma but not actually pointing out sufficient evidence for me to hop on. I want an IJ lynch but i am open to other lynches.
As far as BnL goes, i believe his claim. There are time delayed roles in this game so i think he is town.
I am not much for meta but if you look at my past games i engage them more on D2 with a reads list, active questioning, and scum hunting. Day 1 to me is just people talking and no evidence or actions linking anyone to anything. I am a generally scummy sounding player and get scumread very easily no matter my alignment. If you look around you will see people scumreading me but not many votes towards myself. I guarantee you that you will always see a change to my playstyle Day 2, i just need to get used to the players in a game and i become very active.
Now, having explained my actions, i will say that, so far, my reads are the following
BnL, culted, Zach, Ari townreads
Dreal and Gamma Null
IJ and Dunn scumlean-
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Town reads change as do feeling towards people. My townread was based on your meta but even in the poat i made vouching for you i said you were playing different this game. I am convinced that you playing different is AI.In post 741, Zachstralkita wrote:I was literally in your townreads 2 posts ago-
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I admit that i was lost and had to reread the thread but i am caught up with a fresh look on the game and i see that my post defending you didnt make sense to me when i reread it. I said that you played relatively the same this game as the previous one i played with you but actually you are more lurky this game until someone points a finger at you and then you spring into action. In the previous game you actively scum hunted and you asked questions and engaged people instead of hanging back and reactively posting like in this game.In post 744, Zachstralkita wrote:Secret Agent Jin wrote:
Town reads change as do feeling towards people. My townread was based on your meta but even in the poat i made vouching for you i said you were playing different this game. I am convinced that you playing different is AI.In post 741, Zachstralkita wrote:I was literally in your townreads 2 posts ago
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You know why you were my scumread, you chose to say things that were aggressive and unneeded, there was a fair bit of dissonance (even though you and scout owned it), and you lied about your role (hider i believe). The only thing that matters and pertains to this game is that you were town in the previous game and you are playing different in this one, so differently that i find you scummy.In post 749, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 747, Secret Agent Jin wrote:
I admit that i was lost and had to reread the thread but i am caught up with a fresh look on the game and i see that my post defending you didnt make sense to me when i reread it. I said that you played relatively the same this game as the previous one i played with you but actually you are more lurky this game until someone points a finger at you and then you spring into action. In the previous game you actively scum hunted and you asked questions and engaged people instead of hanging back and reactively posting like in this game.In post 744, Zachstralkita wrote:Secret Agent Jin wrote:
Town reads change as do feeling towards people. My townread was based on your meta but even in the poat i made vouching for you i said you were playing different this game. I am convinced that you playing different is AI.In post 741, Zachstralkita wrote:I was literally in your townreads 2 posts ago
I don't know what exactly you've done this game.
So why was I your scumread that entire game? Is it because of your amazing judgement?-
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Yeah but that detail isnt important, dont lynch me over me having a boyfriend lolIn post 945, Gamma Emerald wrote:Boyfriend huh?-
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I want Zach because of the reasons i gave beforehand. Why are you fine with a lynch on Ari? Just in case my wagon deflates.
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No, i get scumread by half the players in every game i play so i am used to being scumread. I just prefer to be awake to defend myself if i get to L-1 againIn post 971, BNL wrote:
Are you scared of being scumread?In post 969, Secret Agent Jin wrote:If IJ also wants me to i will vote Ari but i dont want to sheep and then people point at my sheep and i get ran up again before i wake up-
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I chose to RB Dreal because he was unclaimed and i wanted to see if he had a night action. It seemed as a town we were unsure of who to trust and who to scum read. I was going to either rb you or dreal and i picked right i guess.In post 1132, Dunnstral wrote:Why did you choose dreal?-
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Well i think he is due back like Christmas day the opening VC said. Maybe he can explain what he did and we can determine from there. Did your tracker thing say what power he used or just that he used one. Also, i wonder why you got a response if you were delayed.In post 1145, Infinite Justice wrote:Sadly, I think it's likely gamma is telling the truth about his claim but still scum.
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Alright, if Dreal is the 1-shot PR that he claimed and i RBd him then we need to work this out. My role is Lazy-and-so-are-you Non-Consecutive Night Roleblocker. Last night i used it so i cant block again until N3. Why wasnt Dreal blocked? I dont know that information, i chose him last night. Lets think about this, Town!Dreal uses his abitlity, i use my RB on him but his ability still goes through. What we are missing is a third link here as to why my ability didnt reach Dreal.
Also, why would i, as scum, come out and try to get Dreal lynched when, as scum, i would know he is town and i would be lynched the following day. 1v1 isnt worth it as scum unless we are further into the game. Town!me blocked town!Dreal but it didnt go through, i think its highly possible that scum was involved. Maybe a scum redirector or a scum role that switches two players. I definitely used my power last night but i will PM the mod and see if my action went through since Dreal got an answer, i should get an answer too.
All i ask is that you all wait until i get an answer from the mod and Gamma comes back with his result since IJ said he used an investigate. I just want time to sort this out and if you all still think i am scum then i will vote myself with you all.I totally stole this idea from Human Sequencer
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So what you are saying is that i dont deserve at least a bit of time to figure this out. Also, I never said i targeted Dreal with a kill, i targeted him with an RB. That explains the no kill last night but the doctor claim has nothing to do with my rb attempt. What i am trying to figure out is why my rb didnt go through.-
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That is my point Zach, i am disconnected from if he was chosen for a kill or not. All that pertains to me is the fact that i chose to RB him and it didnt go through. I am happy it didnt go through because it allowed him to follow through with a pro-town action but the fact that there is still something that stopped me from doing my rb is what i am trying to find out.In post 1194, Zachstralkita wrote:
Whether or not he was targeted for a kill is irrelevant to you being scum.Secret Agent Jin wrote:So what you are saying is that i dont deserve at least a bit of time to figure this out. Also, I never said i targeted Dreal with a kill, i targeted him with an RB. That explains the no kill last night but the doctor claim has nothing to do with my rb attempt. What i am trying to figure out is why my rb didnt go through.-
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That is to say, there is no ploy to get you lynched, my reason for my oush on you at day start was because all the knowledge i had at that time was i RB'd you and there was no kill. Now more info has surfaced and i realize that you arent scum due to Zach's doctor action and it probably stopped a scum kill on you.-
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Dont claim, there is no need unless we gain something toward lynching someone from your claim.In post 1213, culted wrote:Should I claim or nah?-
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I woke up today to a mod confirm that my RB went through. That means that your ability activated and then my rb stopped you from doing nothing lol. Its likely that the reason for no night kill was Zach's doctor save. That confusion is thankfully all cleared up. That only leaves who did the kill attempt come from?
IJ confirmed that Gamma did an night action so he wasnt V/LA during the night phase. Once Gamma confirms he used an investigation then that confirms IJ.
Zach is confirmed doctor? I mean its obvious he is but i always doubt myself.
Dreal is confirmed motivator
I am a roleblocker but not confirmed so i will leave myself in the overall mix.
BnL is claimed Dayvig but not confirmed
That leaves Dunn, Culted, BnL, Gamma, and myself.
What is everyones thoughts on the five non-confirmed?
I think i will give BnL the benefit of waiting for him to be confirmed so my vote wont be on him today and i wont selfvote obviously. That leaves 3 players that could be mafia, do we think there is two or three mafia? With the setup probably 2. Gamma and culted? Dunn and culted? Dunn and Gamma? Right now i would put my money on Gamma and culted. Ill ISO those three.-
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I think the cop portion of his abilities might be a flavor cop and he investigated me but only got my role flavor, not my alignment. When he got that he might think i am scum but it wasnt confirmed in his result hence hia lush on me. He also could be a scum JOAT wanting to get a PR out if the way. He hasnt said anything on the fact thaf i was scum confirmed to him.In post 1259, Infinite Justice wrote:
Can you try and think? Otherwise there's no way you can be townIn post 1257, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I have no idea why Gamma would claim a guilty on me as scum.
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I was trying to make my role look weaker so i wasnt targeted tonight by a scumkill. I was also afraid that since my role isnt "lazy" or a "procrastinator" that everyone woukd think my role is scum since it seems the other PRs are delayed.In post 1272, Dunnstral wrote:
So is he making it up, or are you really not non-consecutive?In post 1268, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I voted him because he is vague and is slowly letting information out like he is making it up as he goes. That reeks of scum to me.-
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