Micro 590: RETURN OF THE CARD CZAR [GAME OVER]

[SarasaKat]

Alrighty 13 hour day LEGGO LEGGO

VOTE: PersivulYou broke the chain of voting the person above you S M H

[SarasaKat]

Ranger, if you were just giving a reason for why Blue could have discarded Treestump, why did you vote him?

[SarasaKat]

(Thanks! God I'm obsessed with the show lol)

Hm, after looking at him closer, I'd agree he's acting slightly scummy, but that seems like a pretty strong FOS you've got going there. What's the reason for having such a strong scumread pg.2?

Trying to remember if this game is plurality or majority

[SarasaKat]

Ah ok we're on Plurality no need to seriously worry about reaching an absolute majority

[SarasaKat]

I dropped VT totally cuz that's what I keep rolling. It makes night boring. Was really hoping for neighbor or something like that though

I got two VT rolls - I was so sad lmfao

[SarasaKat]

That's a quick change of opinion lmfao

Is 45 who you perceive as being tied together?

[SarasaKat]

{Fire Starter, Persivul}
{lane, Lowell}
{Aristophanes}
{SarasaKat, Ircher}
{BlueTrin}

@Ranger
Explain your sudden scumread of me.

Considering the DayVig thing was an obvious joke, it should be quite obvious that my initial vote of FS was RVS (though it's serious now cuz of the weird reaction I got).

@Blue
I bet you're lying.

I am not lying: I don't know what to say about this one. The only logical reasons I see for your statement are that you are either trying to set me up for future attacks or you got another modifier like loved (or can you be hated as well in this setup ? I am not sure)

Out of curiosity, how would a loved/hated modifier explain it?

@Ircher Just flat out saying "welp your lying" without any evidence to back it up is suspect. If you're going to FOS someone, you need reasons.

[SarasaKat]

But what if you both had the same modifier? Him having it wouldn't rule you out as having it, would it?

I don't see much motivation for lying about Hated/Loved, either. Saying you're loved would lynch you where you'd claim you're at L-1, and hated would mean you need to get lynched before LYLO soo.

[SarasaKat]

OOH THOSE ARE READS.

Three questions:
1) I'd like to know why you're sus of me as well.
2) I thought you just said Blue was town. Putting Blue that close to your scummiest slot wouldn't be what I call town, unless you think Ircher and I are the only two scum in this game.
3) I never got why you said so confidently that Blue was town, but then you have this so I'm not sure what to think anymore. What's been your thought process regarding him these past few posts?

[SarasaKat]

My RVS? Wut lol. That stage's completely random, not sure how you can make a list of allignments from random votes

[SarasaKat]

Oh shit stuff's happened since I last visited here

Reading back

[SarasaKat]

First of all, UNVOTE: Persivul

(Thanks! God I'm obsessed with the show lol)

Hm, after looking at him closer, I'd agree he's acting slightly scummy, but that seems like a pretty strong FOS you've got going there. What's the reason for having such a strong scumread pg.2?

Trying to remember if this game is plurality or majority

What do you see that is scummy from Blue?

Also, that's my point. You didn't want to be town? You got rid of a town aligent role and a nice town power. That's really bad. I've played the Great Idea games enough to know that the discards tell a lot. Sometimes not until a flip is revealed but discards are always a clue.

Pedit: and since town has majority, odds are I hit town, and if I do not scum, what if they aren't the scum making the kill? It's not useful as town.

After all you seem to be focuses more on how much better the other roles are than our alignment ? Are you gonna kill me tonight ?

This post pinged me. Seemed taunting and deragatory, neither of which helps town.

Perhaps our definitions of FoS are different, but I use FoS when I say someone is the most suspicious of someone else. In that case, Ranger was the most suspicious of Blue. Hence, FoS. I was the most suspicious of Ranger, hence, Blue wasn't my FoS.

GUYS LYNCH IS LITERALLY PLURALITY THERE IS NO L-1 DAY ENDS WHEN HOST ANNOUNCED IT WOULD END, REGARDLESS.
Gonna read Ircher's post later when Im not tired out from catching up in 3 mafias over the course of 2 hours.

[SarasaKat]

Hm. The wiki page says nothing about that, and I couldn't find anything like that in the OP.

@Mod Can Day still end early if a majority is reached?

[SarasaKat]

Hm. The wiki page says nothing about that, and I couldn't find anything like that in the OP.

@Mod Can Day still end early if a majority is reached?

Apparently I can't Bbcode today.

[SarasaKat]

"Plurality voting usually comes into effect if no player has a majority of votes at a Day's deadline, though usually only if lynching is compulsive."

Its pretty clearly in the wiki. It comes into effect at deadline

A. Sounds like it would be a majority lynch - compulsive lynch senario. Not a flat out plurality lynch.

B. I've played flat out plurality lynch on my home form. It goes to the end of day, regardless of if someone reached manority before the lynch or not.

@Other post You don't think he was pushing hard? I'll try to find examples rn, but that's the impression I got.

[SarasaKat]

Ranger, if you were just giving a reason for why Blue could have discarded Treestump, why did you vote him?

Oh, that's simple enough. I don't think discarding the tree stump, by itself, indicates BlueTrin is scum.

I think BlueTrin, off of posting, happens to be scum anyway.

(Nice ladybug avatar, btw.)

This is what made me think so. That's a pretty definitive statement for page 2.

Huh.

UNVOTE: BlueTrin.

I think BlueTrin is town.

That's also a pretty definitive statement, but in the reverse direction.

[SarasaKat]

Guys also if you had to wait until the deadline, then my hated modifier would mean nothing ... Think about it

Unless it just added on a vote from [hated]? Idk. You've got a point though.

[SarasaKat]

Sweet. Thanks for the clarification!

@Blue I wouldn't really call it salty.. More confused/suspicious than not that he said he thought you were scum to he thought you were town on the same page.

Well since I apparently have all day now, gonna read through that Ircher long post from hell. Manager apparently forgot to note that my shift was at 10PM, not 10AM.

[SarasaKat]

Sweet. Thanks for the clarification!

@Blue I wouldn't really call it salty.. More confused/suspicious than not that she said she thought you were scum to she thought you were town on the same page.

Well since I apparently have all day now, gonna read through that Ircher long post from hell. Manager apparently forgot to note that my shift was at 10PM, not 10AM.

ebwop

[SarasaKat]

@Blue I wouldn't really call it salty.. More confused/suspicious than not that he said he thought you were scum to he thought you were town on the same page.

Sorry this was a typo, I mean to say "you say".

Had to admit the salty in there was funny though xD

[SarasaKat]

Every argument you made so far, and I mean every single one(I actually read what you wrote!) goes like this:

You make an argument based on false statements in order to justify your vote. You then shit out an argument. I took a whiff and called it what it was: shit. You then EAT the shit, saying I'm twisting words and lying because there is no shit. You then shit back out the shit you just ate and voila, you have every argument you've made. And endless cycle of you shitting and reusing your own shit to justify your original shit. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.

This made me laugh ftr

{Fire Starter, Persivul, lane, Lowell}
{BlueTrin}
{Aristophanes}
{SarasaKat, Ircher}

I'd vote for Ircher, but that might be the lynch and I figure we're not done talking yet.

I like this list a lot. I'm pretty much dead-set on voting for one of these VT-discarders today. I've been racking my brain about this and I just can't see--absent having been dealt 5 VT cards-- why anyone who cares at all about being pro-town would ever do this.

You mean a town discarder? Idk why a VT discard is more scummy than a PR discard.

And in my defense for that one, I literally got 5 townpicks. And they all sucked. The host even gave me his condolences about my shitty luck.

[SarasaKat]

For page 2, it is. Normally, I'd totally agree with you. But having a scum lean or town lean on

page 2

? That's pretty definitive.

[SarasaKat]

You mean a town discarder? Idk why a VT discard is more scummy than a PR discard

On mobile, self reminder to follow up on this. But the low down is VT discards are scummy. I will gather the actual numbers when I get home tonight.

Sweet. I've never played this kind of set-up where you choose roles, so that might be apart of my confusion here.

@lane It was an actual opinion on someone's alignment on page 2. That's pretty damn early to have an opinion. If she would have said "I think he's leaning scum", that'd make a lot more sense to me than "I think he's scum" or something of that nature. To kind of compare it to Ircher's read list, it's like putting someone in the red category almost as soon as they post rather than the orange category. That make any sense?

[SarasaKat]

Yeah, and I don't, either. Just seems unsubstantiated to think someone's in that red category that early on.