Micro 441: Less Pressure

[Viomi]

/confirm, here I am!

Please don't reach a lynch or whatever until I'm caught up please;

[Viomi]

VOTE: Xayzeck

Reads list when I'm out of class.

[Viomi]

Actually quick top-3 scumreads:

Xayzeck
++--
pisskop

Huntress & Jingle are town btw

[Viomi]

Currently {Huntress, Jingle, the slot formerly known as Pine} in no particular order.

goodmorning do you even know how mafia works

Huntress and Jingle are obvtown

and I know I'm town

It hurts that you're IC because you're so wrong :c

[Viomi]

Huntress & Jingle are town btw

That supports that viewpoint tho

[Viomi]

^see tth??

you seeeeeeeeeee

Would you please stop trying to beg for IC approval you scummy fuck? No more towncred for you get down from there

[Viomi]

Do you think GM is Scum?

He's #4 on my scumlist, meaning he's less likely than the other 3 but ye

[Viomi]

So you're all caught up then?

Yes
Sort of
I skimmed
the first two pages or so

Maybe more like half caught up but yeah after that last comment there he's p scummy

Also got done ISOing my predecessor but I'm not going to post about it because "omg amish tell" (which btw never works)

[Viomi]

I don't like #372 - why would she tell one of her supposed scumreads to switch votes in order to get someone lynched?

TTH, aren't #380 and #382 somewhat contradictory (i.e. activity-based argument followed by 'inactivity is not a reason')?

I don't like something about pisskop (and, also, formerly Dry-fit) vs Pine - I totally agree with #383 but those two players are my two major scumreads

The wonderful tale of "Jingle tells no arguments" continued. Ok.

#417 is a reason to reconsider stuff. IDK if Viomi (ex-Pine) is town because of the flip in reads after replacements or scum with different playstyle. I will do so whenever I'll be less tired.

That's all for now.

Either Xayzeck or ++-- are my lynch choices for today.

I mean, look at that quote. That is the most forced, scummy post I've ever seen. I can't read it without cringing.

[Viomi]

Wait goodmorning replaced RECK?

Aww fuck whelp nvm

cries :c

[Viomi]

I thought someone else had replaced RECK and was IC.. Ugh this hurts my head.

[Viomi]

What someone else?

Are you actually serious? There's no possible way I'd play this sloppy unless I was confirmed Town.

I don't know you. And most people are really bad so I figured you were like them and just being that sloppy.

Whelp that changes things hang on time to refix my life

[Viomi]

If I were VT or MG right now I'd be working my ass off to get townread. I've been Scum in this setup before, I learn from my problems.

WHAT SOMEONE ELSE

I thought we had 9 players for some reason idek

[Viomi]

Huntress you're voting the wrong person pls fix this

And Xayzeck, scum doesn't tunnel their buddies as hard as he's tunneling you

and you're scum

Therefore Jingle is obvtown

[Viomi]

Because this is his scum play.

I've played with him before and this is most definitely his scum play.

[Viomi]

We're not getting any new information 'til a lynch is reached, guys.

[Viomi]

I really, really want to lynch ++-- now.

Xayzeck today

++-- tomorrow

[Viomi]

I'm not really in a position where I want a lynch to happen RIGHT THIS INSTANT.

I am.

I know it's psychologically pleasing to want to hit scum

right now

, but unless there's something

specific

you would like to discuss a flip is going to help more than more pages.

Specifically, I'd like to talk about Viomi.
What do you think of all the posts that made me go WTF??

Why are you discussing useless topics like me forgetting how many players there are or who the IC's are when joining into a new game?

Do I need to discuss this with every single group of players I play with now? Obvious shit like that is completely unrelated to alignment... If anything, I'd be

less

suspicious of someone who wasn't being extra careful and did something silly.

To paraphrase: Foot-in-mouth forgetfulness does NOT equal scum.

[Viomi]

Oh god Viomi

I've found my last scum

You're just butthurt that I lynched your scummy ass our last game.

Die.

[Viomi]

I await the day when someone can actually scumcase me without meta but by using my actual play in the game

which will never happen

Except the game I'm referring to. In which I made a case against your scummy ass. You were playing exactly as you are now.

Guess what? You flipped scum.

Diiiiie.

[Viomi]

[avoiding prod] I'll catch up tomorrow. And this time seriously. And I'll invest actual energy to the game. Hopefully.

I hate prod dodges with a passion unless the person actually comes back and starts contributing shortly after to make up for it.

You've been prod dodging and posting fluff and being vague and ugh I hate it so much

You're lucky I want to lynch Xayzeck more today but tomorrow

[Viomi]

Hi PB!


@GM: Vote Viomi pretty please?

Huntress
You should make a real case against me <3

[Viomi]

My case is mainly on Pine rather than you, although a couple of your posts pinged me. The last line of 430 for one, and 517 looked like it was addressed to a partner. As for Pine, it was an accumulation of the things I've already mentioned in the thread.

???

Why did the last post of 430 ping you? Do you know what an amish tell is?

Anyway it's part of my playstyle and I can't talk about ongoing games but basically #i'm tired of being lynched for amish

And what do you mean 517 looked like it was being addressed to a partner? And who would I be addressing as a partner, Xayzeck or ++--?

[Viomi]

Why did the last post of 430 ping you? Do you know what an amish tell is?

The Amished tell is one of the more useful tells, but it's only really useful on someone that doesn't already know about it. That line pinged me because you went out of your way to say that you'd ISO'd your predecessor but weren't going to post about it because of the tell, when the natural thing to do would be to just say nothing. Reading between the lines it looks you found him scummy as if you hadn't then the tell wouldn't have applied anyway.

Actually I didn't ISO him at all because I knew you guys would get on my ass for "amishing"

Apparently knowing about the amish tell is scummy now, too? In which case you are also guilty.

[Viomi]

Amished is stupid

Thank the lord.

Actually I didn't ISO him at all because I knew you guys would get on my ass for "amishing"

Apparently knowing about the amish tell is scummy now, too? In which case you are also guilty.

Knowing about it: Not scummy.
Raising it in the way you did: Scummy.

If you didn't actually ISO him how did you know you would find him scummy? Because if you didn't find him scummy you wouldn't have any need to worry about being accused of showing that tell. Which implies that you expected you would find him scummy.

? Whether I would find him scummy or not is irrelevant, do you know what the Amished tell is? The amished tell says that if someone replaces into a game and looks at what their predecessor did at all, then they're scum. Whether or not I find my predecessor to have been acting scummy, the amished tell would say I'm scum. I'm tired of getting lynched for amished tells so I figured I'd just avoid it entirely because some people are dumb enough to actually believe the amished tell works.

[Viomi]

? Whether I would find him scummy or not is irrelevant, do you know what the Amished tell is? The amished tell says that if someone replaces into a game and looks at what their predecessor did at all, then they're scum. Whether or not I find my predecessor to have been acting scummy, the amished tell would say I'm scum. I'm tired of getting lynched for amished tells so I figured I'd just avoid it entirely because some people are dumb enough to actually believe the amished tell works.

Yes, I know what the Amished tell is, and it's not what you are claiming it to be. It refers to a player who criticises or apologises for his predecessor's play. Playstyle or previous knowledge of the tell can nullify it though.

Right... So it's /nullified/, not a reason to read me as scum.

Can we talk of more useful things?

Agreed.

[Viomi]

Right... So it's /nullified/, not a reason to read me as scum.

What? Hadly. your prdesscessor behaved asccording to is alignment.

Vote: viomi

For trying to erase the scumminess of her slot.

pisskop, are you stupid or just tired? Do you need some meds or something?

The read on /my action of avoiding amished/ is nullified, /not my predecessor's actions/. I don't give a fuck if you think my predecessor is scummy; As I'm not my predecessor, all I know about him is that he's town; I don't know what he was thinking. You get no information from pressuring me on his actions.

Your vote is useless to town.

That is, unless you have a reason for why

my

playstyle so far is scummy to you. I'd love to hear it if you do.

VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

I saw nothing from you from your "I've replaced in" post to your post in which you voted Xayzeck. Why did you vote him? Could you quote some posts of his that made him seem scummy to you? Who do you think is scum in light of that lynch?

[Viomi]

And why shouldn't we? You literally contributed nothing to the game over hundreds of posts except "oh ya, Xay is Scum." That's much worse than anything anyone else has done.

I see where you're coming from after ISOing Jingle.

Jingle, why do I seem to have such a hard time scum-reading you? Maybe I just like your playstyle too much. You should probably contribute to the game or I'll have to bitchslap you :c

[Viomi]

Yeah nope

VOTE: pisskop

Not happening bud.

[Viomi]

And holy shit I wasn't even /here/ for that last lynch, talk about fast.

I think pisskop is the most likely partner for Prolapsed.

[Viomi]

goodmorning you're a fucking moron if you think I'm more scummy than pisskop and Jinglebuddies up there *facepalm*

[Viomi]

Me too. I could do that.

The issue is that he isn't GM. He gives the lip-service to the idea of lynching Viomi, but to actually do so would cost him the game.

Get in here and talk with us, so that we can resolve this. Both ICs want to lynch a different scum, and we all need to iron this out.

I haven't voted because there's literally no reason for me to. TTH and GM have to decide this lynch. If either of them votes me, scum wins. Rest assured, I intend to hammer any wagon at L-1 though.

Your misrep would be more believable if it came after something that didn't explain it away.

Your little crossvote stunt is fucking meaningless. All you need is ONE of TTH and GM to vote me and you can quickhammer. Conversely, if one of them votes one of you, the lack of quickhammer will make you obvscum. The only possible way my vote matters here is if I hand you the game by selfvoting, and I'm not entirely retarded.

Frankly, though, this is wasted energy on my part. TTH and GM need to come to a consensus on who they think the most probable scum is, then vote. My voice isn't really going to add weight to any arguments, and neither should either of yours. I trust the ICs to pull this game off.

I'm never playing with you again because I couldn't tell your scumplay from your meta townplay this entire game and it makes me mad

UNVOTE:

ICs they're both obvscum and it hurts that you're not voting them :I

idgaf which one we vote can we please just kill them and win Dx

[Viomi]

Actually quick top-3 scumreads:

Xayzeck
++--
pisskop

I don't like #372 - why would she tell one of her supposed scumreads to switch votes in order to get someone lynched?

TTH, aren't #380 and #382 somewhat contradictory (i.e. activity-based argument followed by 'inactivity is not a reason')?

I don't like something about pisskop (and, also, formerly Dry-fit) vs Pine - I totally agree with #383 but those two players are my two major scumreads

The wonderful tale of "Jingle tells no arguments" continued. Ok.

#417 is a reason to reconsider stuff. IDK if Viomi (ex-Pine) is town because of the flip in reads after replacements or scum with different playstyle. I will do so whenever I'll be less tired.

That's all for now.

Either Xayzeck or ++-- are my lynch choices for today.

I mean, look at that quote. That is the most forced, scummy post I've ever seen. I can't read it without cringing.

Right... So it's /nullified/, not a reason to read me as scum.

What? Hadly. your prdesscessor behaved asccording to is alignment.

Vote: viomi

For trying to erase the scumminess of her slot.

pisskop, are you stupid or just tired? Do you need some meds or something?

The read on /my action of avoiding amished/ is nullified, /not my predecessor's actions/. I don't give a fuck if you think my predecessor is scummy; As I'm not my predecessor, all I know about him is that he's town; I don't know what he was thinking. You get no information from pressuring me on his actions.

Your vote is useless to town.

That is, unless you have a reason for why

my

playstyle so far is scummy to you. I'd love to hear it if you do.

VOTE: Prolapsed Brain

I saw nothing from you from your "I've replaced in" post to your post in which you voted Xayzeck. Why did you vote him? Could you quote some posts of his that made him seem scummy to you? Who do you think is scum in light of that lynch?

I fucking called it you assholes

As the last VT I can see my only method of winning is showing that I'm town so I don't get fucking mislynched

again

because none of you can get your heads out of your asses.

Here's a question GM & TTT:

Why would I push ++-- / PB in white-flag as scum?

[Viomi]

What of Jingle is there to analyze? A hard push on town for no reason which isn't his town play? There's not much to look at, I know you're both scum, what else is there for me to say?

[Viomi]

Stop squirming so hard, flailscum
flailscum

[Viomi]

Fucking mobile I'm going to kill myself if I'm mislynched by the time I get to a keyboard

[Viomi]

The bussing is strong with these two -.-

[Viomi]

Sooo ICs are going to draw out the game so they can fuck around instead of lynching obvscum

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighs

[Viomi]

Seriously.. read what I say today, and then read how the scum start acting. They emulate my logic.

What does this even mean you're so full of shit it hurts

Do neither of the ICs see them pushing directly for my lynch? I mean look at Jingle's up there (not gonna quote I'm too tired of this fucking game) "No, because she is scum."

Notice how he's referring to me directly. Like seriously wtf? How is that not obvious? He wants the last VT lynched is the only answer. Ughhhh

[Viomi]

They've been arguing for the entirety of LYLO... Their arguments are so fake and obviously bullshit. They're doing this /specifically/ so you two ICs will go "Oh well I can't really tell which of these two arguing is town so let's lynch the other person."

Like seriously are you fucking kidding me

And whichever IC said it made sense for me to attempt a Prolapsed Brain lynch because in white flag you can have one teammate die is a fucking moron and doesn't realize how unhelpful that would be.

In whiteflag you don't bus. It's that fucking simple. When you bus and get a teammate killed in white flag, the other teammates couldn't possibly float along the town cred for the rest of the game cause if just /one/ of them dies it's GG.

[Viomi]

Apparently I'm more ruthless as Scum than most of y'all?

Alright then.

You would push a scummate to lynch in white flag?

*deep exasperated sigh*

Can you lynch me and just get the game over with, this entire game has been so... lacking. The fact that we're left at LyLo with two ICs and they still can't lynch either of the two scum is fucking ridiculous. My mislynch ratio as town is so fucking high. Let's just get this over with, please.

[Viomi]

Fun fact. As scum I am undefeated. On this site. Lost my very first werewolf game, where I was scum.
. OHH! Speaking of wikis and winning, do I count games I placed out of? Do I count games I palced in to? What is the 'cutoff'?

I updated my wiki

So can you kill Viomi or Jingle now? Want to add another win.

I

Are you fucking kidding me

If I was a vig I'd shoot myself right now

[Viomi]

Fun fact. As scum I am undefeated.

ICs we should actually change this and fuck up his stupid W/L scum ratio please and thanks.

[Viomi]

Jingle get your lurking scum ass in here and stop pretending like you aren't reading this.

[Viomi]

I'm still alive!

I will feel so bad if I'm wrong about Viomi because she's getting so worked up.

Don't; I always get worked up.

I'm getting into the habit of blacklisting shitty asshole players so that I don't end up in games with them anymore as well though, so hopefully things will start going better :L

Today has literally turned into a pool of AtE and bullshit. VOTE: Jingle

[Viomi]

Quick someone hammer before pisskop comes back and switches vote Dx

[Viomi]

Sigh.

VOTE: pisskop

Why is TTT so baaad?

[Viomi]

Quick someone hammer before pisskop comes back and switches vote Dx

\o/

vote: viomi

God fucking dammit you assholes

I hate you so much TTT

How can you all be so baaaad I ask this every game and nobody answers me because they assume it's rhetorical but I'd really like to know Dx

[Viomi]

Like seriously TTT you were here before pisskop and you could've fucking hammered Jingle but no you had to vote the fucking VT and give pisskop a reason to inconspiciously switch

I hate you so much

[Viomi]

We've been sitting around doing nothing all day.. I don't think hammering would've been a 'snap' decision :L

Seriously. Can we please lynch either one like, soon? I'm so obvtown it hurts and it's bugging the shit out of me that none of you can look at the VCs and notice that :L

[Viomi]

Jinglebell jinglebell jinglebell rock
Jingle pls hammer scumm
I know shes your buddy
and you wanna win
but thats how jingle will rockk!

You know you could just message him in scum QT to hammer right?

[Viomi]

Judging by the fact that I have not been hammered I'm going to guess that Jingle isn't coming around any time soon to do anything (probably because he's about as put off as I am by this game.. I would be too if my scumbuddy had venge-killed someone other than one of the two ICs)

So can we lynch him? Since he's not around or doing anything? Or can we lynch pisskop because he's really fucking bad?

[Viomi]

VOTE: viomi

Fucking finally. For the record, I blame tth.

Lol thank you

This game was getting tedious

Jfc such slow boring ICs make me pull my hair out

gg everyone

[Viomi]

I mean I hate your fucking guts but still thanks

[Viomi]

PROLAPSED BRAIN WTF WAS WITH THAT VENGEKILL BUDDY

[Viomi]

PROLAPSED BRAIN WTF WAS WITH THAT VENGEKILL BUDDY

PROLAPSED BRAIN WTF WAS WITH THAT VENGEKILL BUDDY

PROLAPSED BRAIN WTF WAS WITH THAT VENGEKILL BUDDY

PROLAPSED BRAIN WTF WAS WITH THAT VENGEKILL BUDDY

PROLAPSED BRAIN WTF WAS WITH THAT VENGEKILL BUDDY

Still waiting...

In other news, thanks for putting up with me everyone, it was fun