Micro 407: Jurassic Park Mafia - Game Over

[Mathdino]

It's either Pine/BBT or Pine/Mathdino, though. Unless you think it's me/BBT, which just doesn't make sense.

Busy today, on phone

You have 3/5 players on, that aint ghosting

[Mathdino]

Yeah I saw this coming.

Hey Pine, looks like Scripten took me up on the coin flip offer. Last nights results, now.

[Mathdino]

Unless you think fferyllt was fucking around and decided to track her instead.

[Mathdino]

...

[Mathdino]

Pine is posting in other threads.

Leggo.

VOTE: Pine

[Mathdino]

Request prod on Pine.

It's been over 2 days.

[Mathdino]

THAT'S what you're goin with. Fakeclaim as town.

If we lose this game, that is so on you.

But you're lying.

[Mathdino]

Wait a sec

you're telling me

you rolled VT-Rex

with a flavour full of how it's a scavenger

and MADE UP a tracker claim about it.

all by yourself.

[Mathdino]

ffs fferyllt just lynch him

how bland could fferyllt's setup possibly be

[Mathdino]

EBWOP: AA9's

[Mathdino]

The flavor of the Tracker power goes along with T-Rex being a scavenger. Rexes had great olfactory (smell) and hearing capabilities, much like vultures and other modern scavengers, so they could feed on dead meat from a large territory

I don't buy, even for a second, that there's both a Town Tracker and a Town Watcher.

BBT + Ffery. Game won

Not really sure how, tbh.

From my perspective, I have proof (or close enough) that it's ffery + BBT

Why would ffery out her power in the Neighborhood with no results? Possibly a preemptive thing? Dunno.

Honestly, ffery hasn't done too much that I'd usually call scummy.

I mean, she good posted her way out of a hole D1, then coasted through D2, but that's about it.

I only really came to a ffery suspicion by pure PoE until that claim. I'm thinking she wishes she hadn't nailed herself down to one single claim about now

I don't see how it's relevant, to be blunt. Ffery and I will both be alive D4. We're going to lynch caught!scum BBT, then she's going to have to decide who to kill. She won't choose me, because my Tracker flip would blow her only cover. So she chooses one of Scripten and Math to bring to endgame. At that point, it's a question of which is telling the truth

No, I just don't find two similar investigators plausible.

I'm getting an itch to vote you, but I've got to stay with the 100% scum over the 99.9% scum

I don't see a BP claim from Scripten?

In a 9-player game, two weak investigators is just too much Town power

, though I suppose a full Ninja could mitigate it by making scum effectively immune until Ninja is eliminated. Hmm. A question for D4, after BBT flips. I'm willing to lower suspicion of ffery from 99.9% to 90%, given that remote possibility

That said, if you're so certain, your vote should be down. Anything else looks like hypocrisy and hedging

Fuck you, Scripten. I'm not playing in an anti-Town manner,

I have a guilty verdict and scum counter claiming me. Nor am I not paying attention. Notice how this is the second time today you've shot activity requests at me, and both times I've responded within half an hour

I'm not the one stalling here. I have the closest thing to proof about the scumteam as you can get, and you jackasses are stalling and theorizing about irrelevant bullshit

[Mathdino]

"Past few nights?" There's only been two. The first one I also tracked BBT, he went nowhere

i forgot this post
this would've proven pine as scum if he went with the "i'm totally a tracker guys"
nice going pine
well done
a+ work

[Mathdino]

just lynch pine ffery

[Mathdino]

fferyllt, since this is plurality lynch, you understand that unless you convince me/Scripten, we WILL be lynching Pine no matter what. My vote stands. Scripten's vote is obviously never gonna change. Even if you and Pine both vote Scripten, Pine got to L-1 first.

He's dead. Just hammer him.

[Mathdino]

"Past few nights?" There's only been two. The first one I also tracked BBT, he went nowhere

i forgot this post
this would've proven pine as scum if he went with the "i'm totally a tracker guys"
nice going pine
well done
a+ work

i feel really bad for not noticing this the first time around
scripten/bbt was literally impossible with pine being a tracker

[Mathdino]

plez hammer

i want to put this in my wiki

plez

[Mathdino]

The only thing Pine has going for him is the question

Why is Scripten still alive?

[Mathdino]

Pine's fakeclaim makes too much sense to be made up by him. I refuse to believe AA9 didn't write that.

fferyllt, whatcha waitin on? Scrip's case on Pine?

[Mathdino]

Why would you risk your surefire lynch just to lynch BBT? You were confirmed scum from EVERYONE'S standpoints yesterday.

[Mathdino]

AA9 wrote the fakeclaims, either you're T. Rex or there's no Rex in the game.

[Mathdino]

Because Apatosaurus is definitely a tracker.

[Mathdino]

Actually, that's an excellent point.

HOW WOULD AA9 COMPLEMENT PINE ON A FAKECLAIM?

There's no reason to message the mod when he was

making up a fakeclaim

without writing up a fake role PM.

Nay.

Pine is actually a T. Rex.

He wrote himself a fakeclaim in the scum thread. A good one, I might add.

AA9 complemented him on his dinosaur research.

We got this.

[Mathdino]

And I'd be willing to bet Pine has a normal fakeclaim that he's not using.

[Mathdino]

fferyllt if that doesn't convince you I'm not sure what will. Pine has nowhere near paid enough attention to this game to be so careful about messaging the mod before he pulled a fakeclaim gambit without coming close to breaking any rules in doing so.

[Mathdino]

fferyllt your next post will put you at the same post count as BBT.

3 more from me will put me at Beck.

Make that post count.

Make it a hammer.

In BBT's honour.

[Mathdino]

LOL THANKS FOR THE MISLYNCH PINE

*HI FIVES BBT*

GG IN 2 DAYS

[Mathdino]

NICE GAMBIT BRO

[Mathdino]

that was the funniest lylo troll in my history

would not be surprised if any of you blacklisted me

[Mathdino]

lol'd

is there a way i can recruit pine to the scumteam

pls

compy swarm power turns other dinos into compies

definitely

[Mathdino]

what case lol

i feel like i should've voted scripten just for lulz to see what happened

[Mathdino]

same here

bbt was a good kill

suckas

[Mathdino]

*beck was a good kill

[Mathdino]

let's just say majiffy may have been right about me

[Mathdino]

Great game, AA9, thanks

Jesus that game...

At least now I can say that D1/2 apathy was completely genuine. Getting drowned out by tunnelers is not how I end up being productive and getting just a bit behind spells doom for my activity levels. Had no idea who the fuck was scum.

D3, yeah dem gambits. I'd LOVE to retroactively say that I did that to win the game since ffery prob would've gotten lynched after BBT (or me after Pine since that gambit gave me loads of towncred) but it honestly was a result of all that apathy. This game was shaping up to be my least favourite and I got in a fatalistic mindset.
Then I realised the reactions I got from that were golden. fferyllt looked town as ever (legit the towniest reaction I've ever seen to a vote) and I went for the Pine vote pretty much half knowing ffery was town but I wrote up this huge speech so I wouldn't look like an ass on the off chance I was wrong. Furthermore, before I get labelled as a reckless player, I did take note of Pine getting on and offline and that was a definite factor in what I was doing. Pine's entire D3 play after my gambits started pretty much outed him as scum.
So yeah. Sorry for any heart attacks.
Also lol at convincing Pine I was a 1-shot vig 1-shot commute SK in the PMs.

AA9's modding is really cool, flavour was fun and I like that she was engaged in the game too.

@Grib/BBT/Beck: Lol guys. So much tunneling. So much spamposting. So hilarious.
How much of Grib's case was on the mark, BBT?
What was the deal with the page 1 flavour interaction?

@Pine: Was I right in that you were trying to paint me as your partner after ffery was conftown? What happened after all that?

@fferyllt: Again, sorry for any heart attacks xD. You were really cool to play with, regardless of our clear differences in

playstyle

brain wiring.

[Mathdino]

Other than the gambits (yes I know I won't do that again for games I care more about), any tips/comments/improvements/tasteless remarks on my play?

[Mathdino]

It's kinda funny that it would have been a scum lynch if I had hammered Pine when Mathdino gambited there. I was pretty convinced he was scum at that point and the temptation was huge.

Might have contributed to a day 4 loss though.

I would really, really like to understand what the plan was behind bussing BBT and killing Beck.

It was a good plan. I didn't ask because it'll be clear in the PT but the idea was clearly to implicate either me or you depending on which of BBT and Pine flipped. Beck's death meant BBT was the obvious scum and you were the obvious partner.

On the other hand, Pine had to distance himself from BBT since he was hands down the most likely lynch after everyone was like "LET'S LYNCH GRIB OR PINE" so if he flipped, people would go after me due to balance.

[Mathdino]

It's kinda funny that it would have been a scum lynch if I had hammered Pine when Mathdino gambited there. I was pretty convinced he was scum at that point and the temptation was huge.

Might have contributed to a day 4 loss though.

I would really, really like to understand what the plan was behind bussing BBT and killing Beck.

It was a good plan. I didn't ask because it'll be clear in the PT but the idea was clearly to implicate either me or you depending on which of BBT and Pine flipped. Beck's death meant BBT was the obvious scum and you were the obvious partner.

On the other hand, Pine had to distance himself from BBT since he was hands down the most likely lynch after everyone was like "LET'S LYNCH GRIB OR PINE" so if he flipped, people would go after me due to balance.

And let's be honest, it totally would've worked even if everyone lynched BBT.

Our playstyle difference on my end boils down to the fact that I can fairly well predict what I'm going to do anyway and that prediction was I was gonna vote you after BBT's flip.
Turned out doing it earlier than planned worked in our favour.

[Mathdino]

Micro 407, An epic journey finally ended and

Town

is victorious!!!

Game tribute:

omg <3

[Mathdino]

lol this egofest

[Mathdino]

the game is over guys

you can stop tunneling

pls reveal scum pt

curiosity is high

[Mathdino]

why are you obsessing over the size of beck's balls

this is a pretty easy thing to find out

now reveal the PT and let beck reveal said size if he likes

[Mathdino]

-Framing Mathdino as my buddy was not part of the plan...until he accused me of it. Then it was

LOL

[Mathdino]

I do feign offense, but this time it was mostly genuine. I was a little miffed at the repeatedly-pushed notion that I could not possibly have invented that flavor on my own. I really did, and I didn't even have to do research to do it. On the first day of kindergarten, I told my teacher I wanted to be a paleontologist when I grew up. Allegedly, my teacher called home to ask why a five-year-old was using polysyllabic words in correct context

bro, my username comes from a really really old password I used to use that was a combination of the 2 subjects I liked most at the time

Regardless, the fact of the matter is, VT-Rex makes no sense and that's what I mean rather than you being unable to fakeclaim.

[Mathdino]

Pine - An excellent scum player but few slips. Although he managed to cover them up but he has this amazing skill to develop stories that fit right into the subject. He is an awesome scum player with a right partner

Totally agree, I believed a great deal of his stories WHILE thinking he was scum. The comeback from "I'm not a tracker" was great.

On insanity, uh
while I totally would've killed her as scum due to everyone ELSE townreading her, I was hugely paranoid of her being that kind of player that you townread at the beginning for hitting all the right town notes (active but not too active, reasonable/diplomatic, driving her reads forward) but ends up biting you in the ass later on since her lack of overactivity meant her influence on the game besides being townread was relatively minimal, so nothing would be traced back to her.
Also the fact that I couldn't draw any associations with her and any other players was creeping me out. Figured she might've been just letting {Scripten, Beck, Grib, Pine, BBT} just duke it out and let town fall apart.

On a sidenote, I wish nailing the

flavour

of the entire scumteam counted for anything xD

[Mathdino]

@AA9:

Why was N2 extended?

@Pine:

Why didn't you just self hammer?

[Mathdino]

No but I mean

You said in the scum PT you wanted to get lynched D3 (not talking D4).

You were correct in that you getting lynched would be a much easier win than BBT getting lynched, since I'm an easier lynch than fferyllt.

[Mathdino]

i don't remember that post

wtf does 'huzzah type posts' mean xD

[Mathdino]

Spamposting and egofights. After a while I started glossing over your posts. While you may be great at scumhunting (and kudos for nailing scum) and great at appearing town (kudos for getting NK'd) you're not that great at persuasion.

[Mathdino]

What the fuck is the above

[Mathdino]

Beck - An excellent player I must say. If he once make his mind about someone, there is no go back for him. In most cases, this kind of play works very well for town. And this is the reason why he was chosen to be killed because Scum team thought it will be hard to convince beck over anyone.

But as pointed out, people don't listen to me because I get into tunnel mode. Not sure why though cause my points are usually solid, even if the person is town.

It's kind of a double-edged sword. Your tunneling gets you towncred pretty easily, and you might be able to push a lynch on another player, but it's also likely to backfire and result in a mislynch if your target can't fight back well enough. I've been finding that tunneling is more often town than scum, at least in my experience, so when I'm tunneled upon I'll often give that player town points, but that's not a surefire tactic, either.

i keep having this weird tendency

of townreading everyone who scumreads me

it freaks me out

[Mathdino]

I think there's a difference between accountability and responsibility.

It's the responsibility of a player to not get himself/herself lynched. It's their responsibility if they do (outside of LyLo and role shenanigans IMO).

But votes are a matter of accountability and they should be held accountable for the beliefs they had.

[Mathdino]

Micro 407, An epic journey finally ended and

Town

is victorious!!!

Game tribute:

omg <3

HEY BECK