Micro 392: The Assassin has regained control of the village!

[Nazarene]

No official voting, no. I think it's beneficial to have votes out at all times, though. After all, a King who doesn't listen to his subjects at all may not be a particularly good king, don't you think?

I think this is good policy.

mod, could you do unofficial votecounts?

Why's that? You two on a team or something?

i think that we probably have the same alignment yeah.

I don't see it. What makes you townread mantis?

I don't Nikanor AT ALL!

Who shoots the named king on D1 with no Scum Hunting.

The King will execute a player by posting EXECUTE: player in-thread. Only the king may do this.

So it's not a gambit. And if it is, it's against the rules.

~Ozzy

whoa whoa.. no. it doesn't count. pretty sure he's being cheeky. the only way the 'execute' counts is the king...

I don't like the sound of this. Why not let nikanor get to this himself?

well it's actually mandatory for the km to nominate a different monarch every day so yeah.

Repeats are allowed when there's five or fewer players left.

so the king maker could just nominate themselves continuously...

seems kind of iffy

Pretty sure kingmaker can't be king. Confirm anyone?

well.. i think it works this way: mod random rolled for king/kingmaker, for first day.

king looks at others people's votes and still executes the majority vote (unless their an ass or scum, or whatever)

during the night phase, they pick someone else to be king. and they also put a back up king, in case their first choice is killed.


so king and kingmaker... are the same thing.

What the fuck are you trying to say?

No official voting, no. I think it's beneficial to have votes out at all times, though. After all, a King who doesn't listen to his subjects at all may not be a particularly good king, don't you think?

well ok. this is a little silly scripten, no? how can there not be official voting, yet voting at the same time. any votes won't be count anyway. it's just that the votes are there... unofficially as a way to keep track of everyone's voting preferences/stances

I'm a little confused as to why you think what Script said was silly.

Good post, I like you.

I'm not really liking either of Nikanor and Mantis atm.

VOTE: Mantis
#k1ngv0t1ngs0br4v3
-Tier

[Nazarene]

Dio>Ozzy

quinoa what is your experience?

[Nazarene]

why tho

[Nazarene]

The other head is slick as scum too tbh

[Nazarene]

OOOH LETS HAVE A SCRIPTEN NIKANOR FIGHT

IT WILL BE AWESUM

[Nazarene]

Scripten do you have any finished scum games?

[Nazarene]

Dang secret alts lame

[Nazarene]

Oh god this is bbt and tiershift buddying all over again

I'll read your scumgame. And BBT finally won a game good for him!

-Tier

[Nazarene]

Quinoa, stop being useless. What is the scummiest post so far? What is the towniest?


-A

[Nazarene]

Why ouch?

Aegor, qt.

-Tier

Apparently if you log in while being logged in the new login doesn't overrule the old one.

[Nazarene]

Nikanor please answer the questions in our very first post

Scripten I read the start of your scumgame. I'm pretty much convinced you're not scum now.

-Tier

[Nazarene]

Foxxx are you flavor hinting for town cred?

What does this mean?

VOTE: Nikanor

?

Nikanor stop being a dumbass and answer our questions. Not clogging up the game thread would bemuse me, too. UCWOTIDIDTHER WATUGOT MATE

[Nazarene]

At least each head of the hydra can't be individual scum.

Yeah, I like the idea of executing Nikanor. What do you think of that idea, Mantisdreamz?

what are the reasons... cause of his troll? not alignment indicative

Then wat do you think of his posting so far?

Max, what part of post 77 pinged to you?

-Tier

[Nazarene]

Don't like this post at all. Uses meta way to strongly here. Makes me look at Script as poss. scum if Naz is scum.

Yeah but we're town so you can just assume Scripten to be town for the time being.

Very slight scum Almost feels like he could be trying to float by. Maybe just a shy townie.

Lol, me floating by.

This ISO thingy probably means town even if it is IIoA. But he should interact instead of writing about people.

-Tier

[Nazarene]

I cannot imagine both heads of a hydra legitimately believing that that was a gambit. Or that it is important anyhow.

[Nazarene]

My point is you backing of off Script the way you did seems scummy on your part.

Scripten I read the start of your scumgame. I'm pretty much convinced you're not scum now.

hrm, they're read on scripten does seem over-the-top.
naz thinks it beyond possible that scripten could mix up his scum-game?

I'm an over-the-top player, deal with it!
But really, he feels the same as he did in my previous game with him, while his scumgame set off all kinds of alarms. It's not 100%, but 8 pages in it's definitely my strongest read.

My biggest issue is with Quinoa. Normally bullshit like that is a null read, but the deadlines are too short to be futzing around like that.

Fucking around with long deadlines is null, but with short deadlines it's scummy?

GreyFoxx's reads lists are interesting, but at this stage in the game could very easily be faked by scum. I can't really read into his motivations with them. He gets town points for scumhunting afterwards though.

Nikanor might be right about sos+fox huh

Nazerine is town. Scripten's meta argument on him has me thinking, but I'm not sure about what as of right now.

Why am I so town to you?

Can I please know which head josh is so I can attempt to use the very little meta I have to at least aid me in my read on you?

Naz can you reply to my post 171

[Are you really saying that my Iso's are IIoA, directly after you respond to my analysis of you? Cmon bro.

I have interacted, I can give proof.

You're analysing every single post, so that is always IIoA. You're describing people in your ISO search instead of pointing out discrepancies and asking about them.

Aegor will catch up today, he promised.
-Tier

[Nazarene]

Sabbath's super static reads are alarming. As is his reaction to being called out as a team with greyfoxxxx.

Mantis, I'm sure you'll get some reads if you read the thread again.

I'm most happy with a sabbath shot today, but we have five days left.
VOTE: sabbath
Just to be nice.
-Tier

[Nazarene]

@Sabbath:

Why am I so town to you?

Can I please know which head josh is so I can attempt to use the very little meta I have to at least aid me in my read on you?

@grey: can you link me to a completed towngame and a completed scumgame of yours? Preferably as many as possible from either category.

@mod: do mafia have daytalk?

-Tier

[Nazarene]

Sure, I'll explain it once more.
By talking about every post and calling the majority of them null, you fill your posts, without providing a lot of content. You mark individual posts as fluffy or slightly scummy, without thinking about the whole picture, what views someone is having, what someone is pushing, etc. You just talk about everything that comes by. This makes your posts full of

information

, but thin on

analysis

. As such, information instead of analysis, or IIoA. IIoA is a pretty decent scumtell these days.

In your town game, I saw a lot of questions asked instead of the only commenting you are doing here. Why do you presume that is?
I also saw your ISO was void of any (in my opinion useless) ISO reads as presented here. What made you want to do ISO reads here?
-Tier

[Nazarene]

I am feeling like Quinoa should probably have the crap executed out of him if we do not reach a clear consensus elsewhere.

@SABBATH:

Please explain your Nik scumread beyond the completely ridiculous claim that he attempted to execute the king. I do not see why that scumread has remained so implacable.

@Grayfoxxx:

Untwist your panties. First, stop confbiasing. Asking the mod a question is null from any party. Such a question can only "feel" fake or genuine because of a prior-established read. Second, IIoA does not mean no analysis at all every in any way anywhere. It means that someone is essentially coasting on providing info instead of incisively punching into the game on analysis. Posting one-line responses that simply offer an impression of a post with no discussion do not count as analysis; they count as information because you are essentially just quoting someone and then calling them scum.

Let me know if you have any more questions.


-A

[Nazarene]

Agree with me about what?

[Nazarene]

Well, my other head agrees with me.

-A

[Nazarene]

Well, my other head agrees with me.

-A

Ilu Aegor

Are you really trying to Meta me off of my first noob game? Weak. Show me one person who still plays the way they did in their first game.

I generally try to take as many things as possible into consideration. Why so defensive?

-Tier

[Nazarene]

So uh, what happened to your nik read?

[Nazarene]

Quinoa, stop being useless. Otherwise I will strongly push for your annihilation.

The Kingmaker stays Kingmaker; this is clear through the role descriptions.

I'm of the opinion that Mantis is SOLID TOWN. By virtue of being the named D1 king. I'm a little iffy on that because I'm unsure if he was chosen by the mod, or by the kingmaker. Regardless of who he was chosen by, he seems town by play and necessity.

Do you mind explaining this? It makes no sense to me. How is being named King evidence of being town?

-A

[Nazarene]

SoS, what happened to your Nik read?

-A

[Nazarene]

@Sabbath:

Why am I so town to you?

Can I please know which head josh?

Requoting this AGAIN. Please respond.

@SABBATH:

Please explain your Nik scumread beyond the completely ridiculous claim that he attempted to execute the king. I do not see why that scumread has remained so implacable.

-A

So uh, what happened to your nik read?

abandoned by WIFOM. Actual game information presented itself and I realized I was being stupid.

What the fuck does abandoned by WIFOM mean? What in Nikanor's behaviour is townish now?

Sabbath's super static reads are alarming. As is his reaction to being called out as a team with greyfoxxxx.

Mantis, I'm sure you'll get some reads if you read the thread again.

I'm most happy with a sabbath shot today, but we have five days left.
VOTE: sabbath
Just to be nice.
-Tier

Why are static reads scummy?

Is this just a game theory question or what? The answer is: scum often have more static reads and that is why having static reads is a scumtell. The reasoning behind this has to do with scum fabricating reads and liking to hold in to them coupled with a usual inability to actually process relevant game information into their reads.

hey maybe sabbath is town after all

Why do you think so?
Quinoa, why do you think sabbath is town?

And we'd not like to be executed

-Tier

[Nazarene]

What the fuck does abandoned by WIFOM mean? What in Nikanor's behaviour is townish now?

What if I'm death tunneling on some stupid crap that actually has nothing to do with the game? Are there other things that I should be looking at?- Oh there are. Wow. I think I only drank the poisoned glass at the beginning of the game.

pshh nothing really. I just calmed down and re-evaluated the game with a clear mind. I still don't think he should be given the gun and I'm sticking to that.

What's your opinion of Maxous?

What was the WIFOM involved? And why is the King town by necessity?



-A

[Nazarene]

Sabbath, you asked for our max read. It's null. He's a bit low on content and even though he makes posts like 293 and 294 that coincide

exactly

with my thoughts, I don't think that's beyond scummax's ability.

nazarene, certainly came off considerably worse during the grayfox argument

What do you mean? (Note: this is not me being cocky, I want to understand your read on us for real)

You were town at the time because you got straight to scumhunting. No bullshit. But right now, I really don't like how you accused us of having

Why was this such a hugely important question that you had to press it twice over?

I asked thrice because I was worried about your read on me. No one had read us as town that strongly up to that point and you did, for reasons I could not see. And you kept on not responding.

And my worries were proven right. You abandoned your townread on us quickly, leaving me to believe you exaggerated your townread on us for whatever reason, just as you did with your nikanor scumread.

Can you please complete the unfinished sentence in your previous post?
-Tier

[Nazarene]

@Grayfox:

Please explain with reference to particular posts how Scripten flip-flopped. I still see no inconsistency.

@SABBATH:

Your Grayfox read came after our charges of static reads, if I remember correctly.

And if mantis just killed someone, then he would be quicklynched tomorrow.


mantis, convince this Head that you are town and not scum coasting and avoiding committing to reads so that you will not be held accountable for the execution tomorrow.


-A

[Nazarene]

Scripten is not looking very town

Just pointing out that tomorrow could be MyLo if both today's shot and clusk flip town. I highly recommend not shooting clusk, though. That will give us close to zero information to work off.

Mantis, stop being lazy please thx
-Tier

[Nazarene]

Script, come out and play.

How do you view grayfoxxxx's changing reads?
Why do you take issue at him attacking the people who attack him?
How do you feel about him antagonising people?
Do you think him misrepping your and SoS's arguments is alignment indicative or indicative of bad reading comprehension?

Answer all, please.

P-edit: hey you posted here have this post in response
-Tier

[Nazarene]

Why did you think he was a good player?

[Nazarene]

What do you currently think of nik? SoS?

[Nazarene]

I've found the case on gray to be particularly boring and based on misunderstandings more than anything, but I'll read it thoroughly now.
Thoughts on max? mantis? Heel while you're at it just gimme all your reads

[Nazarene]

Sooooo...I have read through a Scripten-Grayfoxxx-Sabbath ISO, focusing on the former two.
It seems the fundamental disconnect is to be blamed on......
......................

Spoiler: answer

SCRIPTEN!

For this post:

Spoiler: post

Likewise, this is pretty misrepresentativ of SoS's statement. He said that your posts lean toward you trying to implicate me as your scum partner (Assuming you are scum)

This is false! And causes all the confusion to follow. For instance this confusion, that I totally feel.

Spoiler: confusion

Wait wait wait. How did what you said translate to what Scripten said???? "Greyfoxx's evaluation of tiershift seems to be clearly pointing a finger at Naz and linking him as scum with his bestest town read." I dont see it. So this really means "He said that your posts lean toward you trying to implicate me as your scum partner (Assuming you are scum) and said that my reaction and push back suggest my innocence." I call B.S. Someone else please give me some insight.

and this, which is not confusion, but how matters truly have gone:

Now you both are saying that quote somehow meant I was acting scummy, and trying to frame script as my partner. HOW HOW HOW

Hopefully having cleared confusion, I'll respond to this.

1) You said that if Naz flips scum, then you would suspect me as being their partner.

2) This is suspicious because you were town reading me, so you are simultaneously reading me as likely to be town and likely to be scum. That's really inconsistent and suggests that you may be scummy.

You somehow don't believe in associative reads on people you read as town. That's fine, but I do and max has already pointed out that he does as well. It's just a disclaimer: "

IF

Naz flips scum, I'm more likely to see scripten as scum as I see him now, because Naz's read on scripten looked fake." This doesn't mean: Naz and script are both scum. It just mean: I could see one as the partner of the other. It's not scummy to do this. It's just not.

Give my post a good read, scripten. Probably read it 3 times. And hopefully realise that what I pointed out is correct.

Also get totally ready to put me in your supaaarrr town category.

Focusing more on SoS now in this debate, getrekt.
-Tier

[Nazarene]

Btw having a beer while analysing this was totally a great idea thanks scripten (and nika) for reading it in your iso

[Nazarene]

@SABBATH:

Do you think the following quote is a correct representation of your statement? If yes, point out where you have said Gray to be implicating script as scum partner. If not, why haven't you commented on it?

Likewise, this is pretty misrepresentativ of SoS's statement. He said that your posts lean toward you trying to implicate me as your scum partner (Assuming you are scum)

According to GreyFoxx

1. Scripten is hard town
2. Nazarene is leaning scum
3. Nazarene and Scripten are probably scum partners

I don't know how much clearer I can be. Points 1 and 2 do not follow with point 3. Like, AT ALL.

He never said 3 though. Where did he say 3?
-Tier

p-edit: gray I'm fixing this shit right now

[Nazarene]

Now gray, let them indeed reply.

Do you think they are scum together, pushing the same idea together? Who looks scummiest out of the two?

[Nazarene]

happy to see maxous reads the fucking towniest thing I've done in ages in any game as town.

[Nazarene]

Naz read my last few posts if you haven't kept up. Why ask me to repeat my self more than I have.

Sab I have already explained my early reads. ISO me it's there.

The Heads of the Hydra need to confer.


-A

[Nazarene]

Gray can you please stop responding to scripten, since he is not listening, clearly.

Scripten, read my post 351. Now.

Uses meta way to strongly here. Makes me look at Script as poss. scum if Naz is scum.

Is NOT the same as

Greyfoxx is looking at Scripten as Nazarene's partner.

He only says 'makes me

look at

as

possible

scum' and '

if

Naz is scum'.
I even underlined the differences for you. Don't pretend they do not exist.

GF doesn't have any case on Scripten being scum except for one comment made Nazarene. And he still hasn't made any case on Scripten being scum except some OMGUS to being pressed on how the Sripten and Naz are connected in any other way.

He doesn't scumread scripten, so he doesn't need a case. He'll only reevaluate if I'm scum. Why'd you need a case for that?

In other news, I like the GF's response to my earlier question about the disconnect between what he chose to respond to, and the content in the posts.
something along the lines of "I can't help it if you think there's a disconnect" I think it's a pretty fair response, and I'm not going to press this matter further. There are too many misinterpretations at this point and most of them are probably based on my wordiness.

Are you just dropping one part of the accusation or the entire one?
-Tier

[Nazarene]

Egging on? I'm trying to fucking solve it, as you can see in 351. Read it, ffs.

[Nazarene]

I still don't think you've read my post. Let's stop the discussion.
Take this from me, though. I completely understand gray's viewpoint and his side of the argument is pretty much correct. He's not just pushing a counterwagon for the sake of it.

[Nazarene]

Please not gray, I'm positive he's town.

Why do you think sabbath is town?

[Nazarene]

why are you positive?

Because this read is very strong. It has to do with the way gray fought both scripten and sabbath. I could understand his argument, why he got upset and why his read on scripten changed. It's town aggression.

sabbath seems sort of like naive town (sorry if that's an insult sab).. this is regarding your nikanor/execute thing.

Naive? Please tell me where he's naive.

naz - i know you pressured on his switch. do you still feel like it was weird/scummy?

Sabbath's switch on nik? Yeah, that was scummy as fuck. His switch on us? Too.

also what are your thoughts on maxous?

His latest post makes me think he's town pretty strongly.

I just don't see your sabbath townread, mantis. He's not naive, at all.

Don't execute from Nik/naz/gray/script/max. I'm fairly certain scum is in the other four. With quinoa and clusk being null.

That should conclude to you my scumreads yourself and sabbath. With you not being quite as scummy.

Could you please please execute sabbath? It will give tons of analysis material that we'll need and it will hit probable scum. All of me/nik/max think he's scum. Even scripten thinks so, while throwing me in there.


-Tier

[Nazarene]

Gut is leaning toward a Naz/SoS scumteam. It would really make sense, considering each of them is on an opposing side in an argument I'm reading more and more as town-vs-town. Guess we'll see.

I'm actually saying SoS is the scummy one in this debate, not you. I'm not accusing you of anything but misunderstanding. I don't see why I would push that if I were partners with SoS.

Clusk will probably be mod killed. Don't lynch him as it would be a waste of a lynch.

Keep in mind that if we lynch town and clusk is town, that brings us from 9 to 6 players with 2 scum. That's from a 2/9 to a 1/3 scum/town ratio. Not sure which way I stand on this just yet, but point to consider.

I explicitly do not want a PL. I want to solve this game tomorrow. And we can't do that by a PL.

[Nazarene]

I know. But we can let that happen and execute someone else. Clusk would be for policy. I want an execution that will give us something to work with.

[Nazarene]

I swear to god if you're making this go to deadline mantis.....I'll shoot you first thing I do day 2 if I get the gun.

Just shoot sabbath, okay.

-Tier

[Nazarene]

Mantis, are you catching up? Do you want me to walk you through the game so far?

Quinoa, why did you sign up for this game? Were you meaning to play? Are you still meaning to play? If you have all afternoon, do some catchups to enable me to read your alignment.
-Tier

P-edit:
Clusk is not conftown. The modkill rule was set in place before gamestart.

412 was semi-forced because I was thinking for a while what threat to bestow onto mantis, it wasn't an off-the-top-of-my-head threat as the 'I swear to god implies'.

Doesn't mean my threat is empty, though. You betcha I will do that.

[Nazarene]

I'm not sure scripten is scum with sabbath, nik. Would he and sabbath push the same idea like that as scumbuddies?

Nik, what do you think of scripten's 401? His shift from GF onto connecting sabbath and me seems to come out of nowhere.

I'm somewhat doubting my scripten read. It's based on faulty meta somewhat, which should concern me.

[Nazarene]

I'm not sure I understand what you think I'm faking anxiety over...

[Nazarene]

Starting where, mantis?

[Nazarene]

@naz: 401 is pretty inane yeah, i don't get where he's coming from with the "they are opposed on an argument so they must be together" bit.

I get that part more than anything else in his post. You often see scum on different sides of arguments without pushing. But how do you feel about his switch from gf scum to me+sabbath? While thinking sabbath was town before?

I'm afraid it means seeing the sabbath mislynch.

I'm making myself crazy right now.

[Nazarene]

Starting where, mantis?

well i've been looking at gray's and sab's isos. trying to make sense of their stances.. and scripten joined in at one point. so the 3 of them are of interest.


why do you think sos scum?

I don't have a real case right here, but I'll list things off the top of my head, possibly adding later.

1. A too strong scumread on nik and sudden abandonment of the read when it became convenient to do so.
2. A too strong townread on me that they refused to explain and abandoent of the read soon after.
3. A scumread on GF that was too strong for the reasoning presented.
4. The way scripten vs gray was handled, reinforcing scripten's argument without actually getting involved; letting scripten do the butcherwork.

There's more.

But first thing I'm foing now, is a scripten reread. Something is off.-Tier

[Nazarene]

Quinoa let's not shoot you, okay. Just play.

[Nazarene]

Script, why do you read gray vs sabbath as townvtown?

Scripten doesn't seem like a good shot. I take back him not being buddies with sabbath, though.

[Nazarene]

Aha. Why do you read gray as town?

Can you quote the posts you see as reigniting the argument in a spoiler?

[Nazarene]

I guess I see where you're coming from.

We'll deal with your read on us tomorrow, seeing even you are happiest with a sabbath shot now.
-Tier

[Nazarene]

Unlike my other Head, this Head thinks that Quinoa is hella scummy, not null. He has taken active lurking to new levels and has most recently engaged in AtE, expressing willingness to be lynched despite a total lack of contribution. The fact that he has essentially not apologized or attempted to turn his behavior around is scummy to this Head.

However, the Heads agree that we should not policy execute him today, with the stipulation that we should all feel bad about ourselves if he does turn out to be scum.

The Heads currently agree that SABBATH is the best execution for the reasons that have been mentioned. We will continue to confer and post anything else interesting.

Finally, this Head finds mantis' lack of meaningful contribution scummy.


-A

[Nazarene]

Should sabbath flip town and should we die overnight, both of which aren't extremely unlikely, mantis should get executed.

[Nazarene]

Should sabbath flip town and should we die overnight, both of which aren't extremely unlikely, mantis should get executed.

who is we. I don't want a mantis Lynch. I feel his actions weren't scummy given his position.

The previous post was TierShift, but this Head is already on the record as saying that mantis' lack of activity is scummy and essentially absolves him of responsibility for any execution. He also executed without much warning.

-A

[Nazarene]

I was off by a day; sorry. LOLOLOLOL Anyway, the rest remains true.

[Nazarene]

Mantis, was SABBATH scum?

-A

[Nazarene]

Hello all.

Does anyone have theories regarding the nightkill?
We've come to the conclusion that we townread gray and nik.
That we think quinoa is town.
And that either max or mantis is scum, probably max.

Nik, what was your max townread based on?

-Tier

[Nazarene]

I had a theory you were setting me up for today's execution.

[Nazarene]

Or more generally, that scum was trying to set us up. I just think that person is you.

[Nazarene]

I thought you were insinuating we killed scripten because he scumread us. But you weren't doing that?

nikanor would of been out the door.

This goes for us too, really.

i dont buy that something changed suddenly overnight with aegor and a townread appeared out of nowhere wrt aegor. look at aegor's posts ->

I hadn't discussed you with Aegor before day end.Your late day 1 play, asking for an execution with a scumbuddy ready to be modkilled, just isn't something scum would do. Your relaxed posting in general doesn't seem like scum lurking.
At the very least, I don't want you for today's execution. Aegor just gave me my way. I'm not sure he completely agrees on my townread.

Quinoa, I hope you'll honour your promise of being more proactive day 2. Who do you think is scum?
-Tier

[Nazarene]

I thought you townread both of them?

Why leaning max over mantis?
-Tier

[Nazarene]

I am still not townreading Quinoa, TierShift was a bit too hasty.


Quinoa, explain your posts yesterday now, please.


-A

[Nazarene]

I am still not townreading Quinoa, TierShift was a bit too hasty.


Quinoa, explain your posts yesterday now, please.


-A

[Nazarene]

guys i thnik ive found out who quinaao is amirite qinoa?

Hello all.

Does anyone have theories regarding the nightkill?
We've come to the conclusion that we townread gray and nik.
That we think quinoa is town.
And that either max or mantis is scum, probably max.

Nik, what was your max townread based on?

-Tier

why gray?

Due to the way he handled being shit on by sabbath and scripten. He reacted in a very genuine way with a sentiment that I shared.

not particularly, i'm still curious of why you asked for night-kill theories when the most obvious theory was yourself though.

Because we're not scum. So there must be another reason for the nightkill. Why shouldn't we ask gor another theory when the most obvious one is myself?

-Tier

[Nazarene]

predictable answers after he used "we."

Why do you say this?

Should sabbath flip town and should we die overnight, both of which aren't extremely unlikely, mantis should get executed.

what is this tho, setting up mantis? lol

yeah, it was.

I had a theory you were setting me up for today's execution.

hi i have lots of theories about this game too but

none involve me getting set up

why do you think you were set up? it appears that scripten scumread you/SoS as a team for a while (quick iso skim), but that doesnt mean anything since he was wrong about SoS anyways.

um yeah

Yeah it doesn't make sense, I'll admit. But I can't think of another reason why scum wouldn't just kill us or nikanor. Share your theories, please!
-Tier

[Nazarene]

i have no theories other than scum made the kill as misdirection or cos script was a threat, and each of this is equally likely yeah

Was scripten a threat to anyone, you think?

considering time constraint i figure i dont really need to name scumreads or try to influence nikanor's reads

?

guys i thnik ive found out who quinaao is amirite qinoa?

Spoiler: :D

I'll take that as a yes. It wasn't in the thread though, nikanor.
-Tier

[Nazarene]

I can't find it

What post?

[Nazarene]

I honestly thought you were kanye. >>

[Nazarene]

Catching up.

Is this Bert? Seriously? Be helpful.


-A

[Nazarene]

The Heads are conferring. This Head has a strong suspicion.


-A

[Nazarene]

yeah i've cooled off on thinking mantis is scum. don't think it's quinoa.
it's naz or nik IMO. they would be good enough not be overtly scummy.

Is this your case for either of us scum?

You're better than this, I know. So why don't you show it?

Nik, I think we still prefer the max shot.
-Tier

[Nazarene]

i think he's probably the kingmaker... can't think of anyone else who would king you.

Whoa whoa whoa wait up

I thought you thought quinoa was hero and I somehow went along with it, because he really wanted to be executed.

I, for one, liked mantis's play in breaking bad mafia

-Tier

[Nazarene]

i really really wanna eggsecute naz but i also really really can't help but feel like the both of us being left alive was a setup.

Why would it be a setup? It's not like we were SUPER town or something.

Also I had really rather you execute BEFORE gray posts so we're bach at odds, even though I don't think he's scum.

[Nazarene]

The Heads are conferring. This Head has a strong suspicion.


-A

tier do you know what this was aboot

I think it was about max.

He didn't post immediately afterwards in our QT so that was weird. But later on he talked about max being scum again.

I'm trying to remember why we townread you.

[Nazarene]

b) still the chance of a hero.

A hero makes the king suicide, which does not change odds/evens?

[Nazarene]

naz can you tell me why you havesuch a townread on grayfoxxx

For the way he responded to sabbath and scripten as I've said before

But nonetheless he can get modkilled now so we get odds

[Nazarene]

that doesn't work, I think.

[Nazarene]

I think mantis is town strongly.

[Nazarene]

idgi

[Nazarene]

It doesn't happen often that I do not even muster a smile at a joke, however shitty. Your joke is special, nik.

[Nazarene]

If we die overnight mantis should not be executed.

[Nazarene]

I've reread the game and come to the conclusion that nikanor must be the remaining scum.

This is based on
- nightkill (I've been in 3 games where scum was lynched day 1, in all three the scumbuddy won in endgame. They were strong players, killing off the weaker players as to get town to doubt itself, which is what happened today with me and maxous)
- scumread on me that cannot be explained (self-explanatory)
- PoE

Please execute him tomorrow, whoever will be king.

[Nazarene]

Please.

-Tier

[Nazarene]

Not only that, but his posting has also been very safe and restraintful. No real attacking of any player, afraid to step into the spotlights.

ISO him. He doesn't explain reads very well and can thus not be challenged on them.

That's not how I'd expect Nikanor to function as town.