Micro 201 - Venging Ball - Over

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:57 pm

/confirm.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:53 am

Kill: John Smith

There, now you've a proper reason for him to be in there cheery.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:50 pm

No. Suggesting we start is a very bad idea.

VOTE: salmonelladreams

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #35 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:01 am

VOTE: makiavel

I'm not sure what it is but I don't like post #27.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #48 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:37 am

Lol.

Going to do anything about it?

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #65 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:54 am

Yuck the makiavel/shadi out of game relationship is really going to screw with this, isn't it. Given how maki has been defending I think this is probably just playstyle issues.

Anyway *sees maki overexplains in a post* "Maki has to explain" is not a very good train of thought imo.

VOTE: guyett

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #91 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:10 am

Wait, greygnarl asked me a quetsion? Oh. It was just gut based off the one post that didn't sit right with me. I guess it was sortof over defending?, and the sort of "Okay let's drop all this voting each other."

And Shadi, claim now please.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #93 (isolation #7) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:01 am

Okay, not the townish reaction I was looking for.

Not sure if it means scum though.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #95 (isolation #8) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:45 am

Well, shadi didn't claim town. He pointed out why claims are pointless in this setup. Someone who denies claiming or even I guess claims VT would probably be town who didn't really read the setup, as scum have way more incentive to know the setup.

(I saw someone else do this in another game once, so yeah I'm not 100% sure this is the best thing ever)

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #108 (isolation #9) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:11 pm

Grey, I'm not saying knowing the setup is a scumtell, I'm saying not knowing the setup is a towntell which is why shadi stating the setup draws a complete blank on the reaction test. Your vote is bad.

@Mp5, Always venge a quickhammer. Except when this rule is commonly stated in the game, because scum wouldn't bother then.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #111 (isolation #10) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:16 pm

In post 109, greygnarl wrote:That's not what you said before even though you meant

Um... so basically, I contradicted myself, so I'm a liar, so I'm scum? I can't see any other way to read this.

Where did I even say it was a scumtell?

PEdit: Associative tells in this setup are crappy. I'm fine with kinda not using them right now, but the first scumflip could also be the second scumflip and we'd be in a position where we'd like to use them without a relevant scumflip.

That said, that position isn't going to happen until day 3 at the earliest so yeah, we would need a scumflip to still win.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #112 (isolation #11) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:16 pm

Wait, that's not a pedit... that's me checking greygnarl's argument again and scrolling over the associative tells.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #130 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:41 am

I think grey's probably town. Not sure I really agree with the pepper vote though.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #138 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:52 pm

Siv's 3 step guide to posting something useful.

1) Read the thread
2) Work out who the scummiest player is
3) Vote them.

Um, I'll go make a case on guyett now.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #140 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:03 pm

Whoops no case lol.

Okay starting that now xD.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #197 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:31 am

Um, yeah, that's way more than I was going off but yeah. Guyett is probably scum.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #240 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:33 pm

Yeah, I'm not really engaged in mafia atm. And it's vote-worthy in this game?

Anyway, the daytalk question is a thing, could be a townslip as like the last game had no daytalk at all (there is daytalk in this, I think).

Wait, fifty was grey. And grey was town. And fifty is like the only one who is town. Meh.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #243 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:42 am

Dis iz english notscience.

Maki is complete utter noob and unreadable. He's rather fluffy but it looks like a playstyle thing.

Fifty is kinda useful and null, but grey was really really town.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #246 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:42 am

Grey's push on me was completely insane, and so bad you couldn't fake making it.

It went "Misrep + vote" "You didn't mean it but you still said it" "I don't think you're scum."

Then, as scum after probably going for "too dumb for scum" he tries to be kindof proactive and spur the game on? Nope. Not scum.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #248 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:25 pm

Who?

Thinking a slight bit more I don't want to compromise lynch on maki b/c gut.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #258 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:01 am

Well, I don't have an amazing scumread on guyett, but what I do have is still a strong lynch. If you'd care to present a better person to lynch besides guyett, sure, I'll vote them, but guyett seems the best lynch atm.

Eh, given how useless maki is we could lynch him... wait he'll have a vengekill if he's town. Yeah let's not do that.

Hmm, not 100% sure on guyett either.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #259 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:05 am

Eh, whatever, might as well go maki.

VOTE: makiavel

Waitaminutewhataboutshadi.

VOTE: shadi1337

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #264 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:08 am

Maki is meh, but idk I just think he's town. He's very sortof open?

Shadi really doesn't have that much scumhunting though, despite seeming to contribute.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #268 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:32 pm

In post 36, Guyett wrote:It does look a bit odd doesn't it... I Think mak has some explaining to do

In post 59, Guyett wrote:You're at L-1 now maki, your play seems very odd so far.

These, I think.

Prob-scum was going off that and your case lol.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #277 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:18 pm

Nightless so plurality lynch.

I think, if maki is in the tie he wins b/c of shadi's vote.

I'd really not like it to be maki, though.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #279 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:46 pm

Hmm, idk what to make of his omgus there. It's very survivalistic, which is unfortunately kinda null for newbs.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #280 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:04 pm

In post 273, notscience wrote:Lol

Scumread me more pls

Is this aimed just at fifty or everyone?

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #311 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:38 pm

Shadi, you've not given ANY reads, not even by the way of votes.

You're just commenting on other people's stuff and asking questions.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #316 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:16 am

I'd prefer shadi, then guyett to maki.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #322 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:58 am

Notscience, we're not lynching drp so unless you want maki lynched vote guyett.

VOTE: guyett

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #326 (isolation #30) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:51 am

Okay that's a vote on maki.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #328 (isolation #31) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:00 am

We don't have time to get drp lynched. It's maki or guyett, your choice, and not to vote either is choosing maki.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #335 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:19 am

In post 334, Shadi1337 wrote:
I also had him in the town pile.

I'll form reads after people have commented on the events.

Wait a minute.

These two sentences do not go together.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #337 (isolation #33) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:01 am

I think you're completely BSing that, you didn't have anyone as either town or scum until that and why not give whatever reads you have now if there's a "town pile".

VOTE: shadi1337

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #341 (isolation #34) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:06 am

Sooo, going to reminisce on your successes or try to catch the other three scum?

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #356 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:13 am

Hmm, what do people think of drp/shadi as red?

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #357 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:18 am

Eh, there's absolutely nothing to go off a double-iso, except slight anti-tells. Meh.

VOTE: guyett

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #359 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:25 am

The fatc I've a scumread on shadi, and think ns and guyett are blue.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #361 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:39 am

NS for basically milking being right on drp when the most he had was possibly influencing maki? I got a bit thrown off because it didn't look like he was scum with drp but I remembered there were two scumteams.
Guyett for just everything guyett.

NS also got maki lynched instead of guyett yesterday.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #378 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:26 am

Oh HELL I'm tunneling.

In post 366, notscience wrote:Lets lynch me guys I'm totally the scum

VOTE: notscience

I read this at first as "Hey I'm the goon trying to deflect off my godfather."

Ew.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #379 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:28 am

In post 369, Shadi1337 wrote:NS is town, that attack on pepper wouldn't have happened as scum.

Why not?

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #386 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:51 pm

Guyett, if you flip town who will you vengekill?

Can you do the whole repeat the question thing on this.

Also the open-ended statements thing doens't apply to me either, as I'm irish.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #388 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:54 pm

Eh, you know what, nevermind.

It's an attempt to see if you'd scumslip but it's actually worthless now that I've tried to force it. I'm stupid.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #402 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:36 pm

I wish maverick would post more. Mp5 is completely null based off what he did and maverick has been a total non-presence imo.

Actually.

UNVOTE: guyett

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #433 (isolation #44) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:05 pm

Shadi, do you have any reads yourself? Have you ever had any reads?

Anyway, just do reads on the full playerlist and stop when your mind gets clogged.

I thought random.org would be cool and ew I'm first in the order it just gave.

Siveure DtTrikyp
SalmonellaDreams
maverick_alpha
Fifty Ways
Guyett
Shadi1337
notscience

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #435 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:26 pm

What's your problem?

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #444 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:50 pm

Shadi do you even read?

In post 433, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Anyway, just do reads on the full playerlist and stop when your mind gets clogged.

This is supposed to mean get your reads out until you can't get then anymore.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #449 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:23 am

Wow.

I just realized how utterly BS shadi's reads are. They're all "Based off X, he's A, but based off Y, he's not A," which is just useless. I was sortof reconsidering shadi being scum based off his obstinancy on giving reads, but those reads are seriously not town.
Anyway, PoE says shadi's red, so I'd kinda prefer not to lynch him yet.

Also, I wish people would stop spamming the thread so I could read maverick.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #454 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:16 pm

If somehow guyett is town, and he venges town, we're in lylo, needing to lynch 3 scum in a specific order. I'd like to have reads on everyone beforehand in case that happens.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #484 (isolation #49) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:50 am

Guyett, you really want to venge notscience?

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #493 (isolation #50) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:05 pm

Agreed.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #497 (isolation #51) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:19 pm

Any last words, guyett? Because I'm definitely hammering you soonish.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #499 (isolation #52) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:27 pm

How is saying "Oh I want to be lynched lynch me right now" any different?

Whatever

VOTE: guyett

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #503 (isolation #53) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:40 am

Shadi still has a vote on him?

VOTE: notscience

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #520 (isolation #54) » Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:14 pm

All I did was get off the wagon to extend the day to get reads. I didn't try to go anywhere else. I was ALWAYS lynching guyett, I just wasn't lynching him straight away. Slightly confused why you'd deflect onto me though.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #748 (isolation #55) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:21 pm

Good job kunkstar.

EPIC fail from me in getting replaced out. I literally just forgot to post because of scum hesitancy.

I think me getting replaced out due to inactivity and being active in my other games is a massive scumtell. Don't think this applies if I basically say "I'm really not here replace me out."

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #758 (isolation #56) » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:54 am

Either take ages or vote the first person if the other two people cross-vote in lylo right off the bat. It's a win-win scenario, as they can hardly criticise you of not taking time when they didn't do it, and if they're scum it's all good.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #760 (isolation #57) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:25 am

Exactly. I kinda think town are more likely to hesitate to vote at the start of lylo, probably partly because they kinda want someone else to vote first, and partly becasue there's new stuff to look at.

Scum either goes for towncred by voting first or they angle for the hammer. And if they're voting first, it's a stupidly fast vote.

Also, you can't really analyze much stuff in lylo after the first person puts their vote down.