Micro 201 - Venging Ball - Over

[Shadi1337]

Well.. this game type is a bit odd.

Hello there people, /confirm

[Shadi1337]

Who doesn't wanna burn Maki

VOTE: Makiavel

[Shadi1337]

Hey look, a distraction! (points over there)

Hey look, a wagon!

VOTE: shadi

What say you?

Salmonella is marginal town lean, rest of you are null as anything. Except I kinda like the humour of Siv's post 13

Wagons are good.

Did your read on Salmo come from the vote he did on Maki because of his omgus vote? Only different thing he has done other than the other players.

VOTE: Shadi

Serious vote.

His exchange with Makiavel seems orchestrated. Bussing partners maybe?

I agree. Was kinda "meh" about him doing an omgsus; only proper thing I say in defence is give you this link where I pretty much did the same on him. (I know him out of the site)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=28794

[Shadi1337]

Well I meant it in a way that I agree it looks like it's bussing not that it is. And yeah it's kinda orchestrated. I linked him the game after voting on him, so yeah.

[Shadi1337]

Didn't know I had that many votes on me, that escalated quickly.

[Shadi1337]

Kudos to dr.pepper for trying, even if it's early. His analysis is fair.

Salmo, do you have any other leads you'd like to follow? (You were on Maki's rvs omgus vote before?)

[Shadi1337]

I don't think it was that suspicious, him thinking it was L-2 could be a legit thought. A L-2 is just slightly off compared to a L-1

[Shadi1337]

hey guys, I am going to a trip in Austria from the 8th to the 12th. So v/la or whatever it's called. Will probably post there too but really don't expect me to really follow those few days.

[Shadi1337]

I linked him the game, didn't tell him of any vote.

[Shadi1337]

Oh and I told him to confirm as well before that.

[Shadi1337]

Kudos to dr.pepper for trying, even if it's early. His analysis is fair.

Salmo, do you have any other leads you'd like to follow? (You were on Maki's rvs omgus vote before?)

Are you trying to subtly push me onto Maki right here?

The relationship between Maki and Shadi is interesting. It's still to early to learn anything of it, but we'll definitely have to go back to look at it.

Anyways, VOTE: Shadi

I liked the pressure that was on him, and he seemed like he was trying to subtly get me to vote for Maki.

I guess it got off the wrong foot because we know each other out of the game, and Maki likes to look suspicious you can go check his latest finished game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=28794 it often comes out as that. I guess you already know Sal, you played a game with him I think.

Also I might already have mentioned it but remember I'm V/LA until around the 13th. Right now I'm having not the most positive reads on Grey and Maki; I will see how the thing processes though.

[Shadi1337]

You're at L-1 now maki, your play seems very odd so far.

He's at L-2.
You should also do some scumhunting of some kind Guyett.

FoS

Guyett

Although it's early it does seem like there's a bit dodging going on over here; but I'll have to wait and analyse whether it continues or not. (and how)

[Shadi1337]

What question

[Shadi1337]

No, such leads I was looking for (if you had more of them)

[Shadi1337]

No, working together; exposing points.

[Shadi1337]

No, just more that we can all work on.

[Shadi1337]

how many votes do I have?

Was just trying to get a bit more out, as I don't recall having a strong read on you (maybe I had? dont remember) I just wanted to see a little more. I mean the maki thing is connected to me so I guess it'd be biased to judge.

[Shadi1337]

If you knew Maki, you'd have said the same thing.

Maki hammers when he can lol

[Shadi1337]

And Shadi, claim now please.

The following roles are used:
1 Red Godfather
1 Red Mafia Goon
1 Blue Godfather
1 Blue Mafia Goon
5 Townies

[Shadi1337]

Well since those 2-3 are just nitpicking about the associative tells let's play a little random game.

Everybody, mention what read you currently have on me and where it comes from and when it has changed.

[Shadi1337]

Well Fifty ways just joined in, so obv he's gonna read up on old cases and comment on them. It's good to see if there's anything we missed.

[Shadi1337]

^ Why?

[Shadi1337]

I felt as if you 2 jumped on Fifty a tad too quickly there, 1 vote should be fine.

[Shadi1337]

Maki is a troll, I certainly think he could do better.

[Shadi1337]

@
Siveure DtTrikyp

Who do you believe is actually scum-hunting. And define to whom you have successfully done it yourself in this game

and in #264 you think I contribute how? As you don't really see me scumhunting?

@Fifty what do you find not natural in Maki's playstyle, or posting-style?

Also do you believe the round has been long enough for a lynch already?

@NS
Why is Sal town?

@Maki

Guyett's words are true enough, right now there's not much contribution coming from you. I don't agree strongly to his vote though.

[Shadi1337]

Forgot I had that RVS vote..UNVOTE:

[Shadi1337]

What leads to your gut feeling?

[Shadi1337]

notes on maki

UNVOTE:

Everyone should calm their tits, no I am not bussing, yes, I was linked to the game & told to go confirm coz I didn't check my PMs to which I was told he voted me (by himself). I proceeded to do an OMGUS for the heck of it.

unnaturally defensive

It does look a bit odd doesn't it... I Think mak has some explaining to do

I explained higher why I voted him. It's not my problem if your reading skills aren't that good. Anyway, let me tell you again :

1. I get poked to confirm as game is about to start & we got pmed
2. I see my PM, then I get told later on by Shadi that he voted me for the lulz (on another site, it's not that uncommon that I get voted out R1, so think of it as a "joke")
3. I proceed to OMGUS'ing him just for the fun
4. I notice 2 (or was it 3 ? I don't know) people vote him and put him on L-1 when there is NO reason WHATSOEVER to do it
5. I retract, proceed to explaining why I voted him
6. You don't understand, Someone elses votes me
7. & We're here again! ya-hoo


Full circle here we go.

way overexplanation

hey guys, I am going to a trip in Austria from the 8th to the 12th. So v/la or whatever it's called. Will probably post there too but really don't expect me to really follow those few days.

Use this : http://forum.mafiascum.net/ucp.php?i=vla&mode=settings


Note : I'm a bit inactive, it's because I'm doing 10 things in one those days, I'll however check atleast once or twice a day if I don't forget! The host can add me on skype @ kolzerreda in case I really forget for awhile, but I doubt I will. Will be checking this thread later today depending on whether I fall asleep or not (didn't sleep at all tonight & it's 7:44AM)

wordy/excited here, too
but not game related content
so maybe an playstyle thing

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Just because guyett agreed with you doesn't mean it's okay to endorse a scummy wallpost.

please allow me to quote the post ive quoted two times already after making it shadi

k ty

@
Siveure DtTrikyp

Who do you believe is actually scum-hunting. And define to whom you have successfully done it yourself in this game

and in #264 you think I contribute how? As you don't really see me scumhunting?

@Fifty what do you find not natural in Maki's playstyle, or posting-style?

Also do you believe the round has been long enough for a lynch already?

@NS
Why is Sal town?

@Maki

Guyett's words are true enough, right now there's not much contribution coming from you. I don't agree strongly to his vote though.

This feels like a Maki chainsaw. This and the unvote are suspicious

What is "chainsaw" also I never intended to really vote on him but simply forgot I had the RVS vote on?

[Shadi1337]

Correct, do you wish for me to give reads? A disclaimer; I am not confident with my early-on reads and they'll suck hardcore.

[Shadi1337]

Isoing pepper didn't give too much(for me). He was mainly onto me and Maki. I also had him in the town pile.
I'll form reads after people have commented on the events.

[Shadi1337]

Had

[Shadi1337]

NS is town, that attack on pepper wouldn't have happened as scum.

[Shadi1337]

Will catch up soon.

[Shadi1337]

Gimme names, cba making a full list.

[Shadi1337]

PWU

What is PWU?

Also pls, give me a few names I don't wanna make a full list.

[Shadi1337]

Ain't doing the entire player-list, that'd take actual effort.

[Shadi1337]

Salmo is sticking to his scum reads and has his reasons to scumhunt and vote. I don't see anything that strongly off with him, check his voting pattern. Also we can (nearly) assume Dr.Pepper is not his partner, he was trying to move a lynch on him earlier. That doesn't kill hte possibility of him being scumteam #2 though.

Sec getting to the others Guyett mentioned, fuck you other 2 I'm not doing that many reads.

[Shadi1337]

Although the thing on pepper seemed a bit distancing from the actual game, but still he ended up being scum. (with Salmo) getting to maverrick now

[Shadi1337]

Maverick seems to run a few good posts but a very few and due to the lurking I may question whether he's town or not. Although it does seem a bit genuine because he's posting on the things that stand out the most.

[Shadi1337]

dno, prolly nullish.

[Shadi1337]

notscience his attack on pepper gave me a good vibe but I forgot we had 2 scum teams so he could still be part of the other one therefore I'm a bit unsure as his other posts haven't been that impressive/scum hunting half of them are 2-3 lines. I'm probably a hypocrite for syaing this coz I bet mine are the same but yeah.

[Shadi1337]

Pun intended?

[Shadi1337]

#457, I can see this as well now.

VOTE: Guyett

[Shadi1337]

Don't accuse others of being scum, scum.

[Shadi1337]

Guyett needs to die.

[Shadi1337]

Well I agree with the wagon but I guess L-1 wouldn't be smart now? idk.

[Shadi1337]

Why did you take your vote off, Fifty?
VOTE: notscience

[Shadi1337]

Good analysis I'm not going to disagree I'd probably see myself doing that in your eyes.

but yeh, was mainly waiting for a more wide agreement but when I saw people started un-voting and attention was led astray from the NS lynch I wanted to bring it back to attention.

Btw, I didn't try to tell Fifty's move was bad, I was simply asking.

[Shadi1337]

Assume? That's not the case, there's a difference in wanting and assuming.

[Shadi1337]

I don't think I even have 3 to be honest, would you be OK with 1-2?

I didn't keep track of who was alive even

@Mod

Dead people:

Maki: Town
Pepper: Red Goon
Guyett: Blue Goon

Can you update the original post? Thanks <3

[Shadi1337]

idk, I had a good vibe about NS after being there to kill Pepper but then he kinda made that thought void when he was soft buddying with Guyett last round
Number 2 is probably Siv, he seems to base arguments off of small stuff like when he said me saying claiming in this game is useless wasn't the town move he expected.

Reason I don't give reads is because they're weak, if you really want them then take them.

[Shadi1337]

Don't kill me on my biffday :<

[Shadi1337]

jerks.. :'(

And no, I guess you can see it as an implication but it was more just a joke due to it being my birthday. This is not a fun thing to check before I sleep; anyway gonna read 1-2 more threads and then sleep if you wanna hammer me go ahead.

[Shadi1337]

thanks fifty, and vote NS for a better tomorrow.

[Shadi1337]

idk, I had a good vibe about NS after being there to kill Pepper but then he kinda made that thought void when he was soft buddying with Guyett last round

EBWODP: Forgot to quote this in my last post

Yeah, Shadi, you're sure it's a softbuddy and not just a misread on NS' part?

What are you on 'bout?

[Shadi1337]

Prod? Has it been that long, my apologies.

[Shadi1337]

A reason would be nice, not having posted or what? You cannot form better arguments for your votes?

[Shadi1337]

................

[Shadi1337]

+1

[Shadi1337]

What is there to talk about? Your half-assed reason to vote? OK, it's half-assed. What more.

[Shadi1337]

Do you believe you're scum-hunting atm yourself - please just look back at your recent posts and tell me how they are better than mine or anyone else's? Yep, keep cementing my perception. In fact we are all the same atm; no NK no nothing. We just want our enemies dead. None of us have a reason to push someone more than others (other than that scum don't care who gets lynched if they can push for one). Get towncred for killing a GF? And what does it prove? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO BUSSING, THERE ARE NO TEAMS. Let's say I was the GF and someone hammers me, what does that prove? Does that really tell you if he's the other team's godfather or not?

[Shadi1337]

There are no teams that people already know of, as in; knowing each other in it.

[Shadi1337]

Nah I'm fine with your vote. Just had to emphasise NS's retardation.

[Shadi1337]

I don't see how you're doing any better; I'm confident with my vote on you.

[Shadi1337]

1)
What makes yours better?

2)
OK

3) Nah, I'm just saying you are basing your votes on me for what you're doing yourself.

[Shadi1337]

1) lol, perfect argument. You guys are REALLY sheeping this guy?

2) Oh so lack of few reads is getting to you? And lack of comment on what; those last few pages of nothingness? If you want a comment on something specific then I shall do it.

[Shadi1337]

Lmfao

This is absolutely pathetic Shadi

I'm not going to quote what I've done for you because it's clear you can't read

But here's what's currently happening

1) People aren't sheeping your moronic wagon

2) You're scum and going to swing today

3) You're mudslinging and doing everything you can to try and get me lynched over you

1) I'd like to notify you that there's only 1 difference in the voting tally atm so there's really not that gigantic difference your post is implying. I am probably going to be the lynched one but yeah.

All you are doing is calling me scum. I already commented on what I found important, your buddying with Guyett and sudden vote-switch and sudden doubt with voting him was dodgy and it's why I believe you're the blue GF.

Did I say I found any posts weird? I just didn't find them a high-lighted topic to discuss. I thought it was a quick discussion but it turned out to have been running long enough for me to be prodded.. w/e though.

[Shadi1337]

No, I didn't see many relations with DR.P; I saw one between you and him which made me believe the chances of you being the red one is very low. I haven't given reads because I don't have many; the red one could pretty much be anyone to me atm...

Blue one is you.

You used meta on both granted, but you wouldn't use meta to kill off your partner like that thus you aren't red I believe.

[Shadi1337]

? What makes you believe I was with Pepper?
Anyway imma go sleep, if I'm lynched that's cool with me. Gonna place a very nice bullet through NS' head.

@Mod

As I read to confirm when I could use vengekill here, I saw this:

The same-coloured mafia goon does not automatically suicide by having the godfather killed

in this way

.

Care to elaborate? Not that it matters much anymore in this particular case but out of curiosity.

[Shadi1337]

And that question looks like something a townie would have asked when he got his role pm, it looks like you're trying to play off noobtown

Cheers, scum.

well I didn't manage to sleep, or tbh I didn't try I went to the post office instead.

The reason I didn't check it before is because now I'm pretty sure I'm gonna end up getting lynched. Stop tryharding.

[Shadi1337]

and now I'm going for real; peace out.

[Shadi1337]

No, he's going down.

A) He's trying to play scummy so they can remove the votes off me B) He's retarded C) He's stubborn/isn't going for his wincon.

[Shadi1337]

I started to think NS was the red gf lol.