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Post #322 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:09 pm
Postby Klick »
So I don't really see the point in specifically aiming for the Godfathers over hunting scum when lynching Goons does nothing bad but puts town in more control.
That said,
VOTE: Siv
He's obviously some scum. He's likely a Goon, but could be a Godfather trying to look like an obvious Goon. I don't see any hurt in lynching him.
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Post #354 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:37 am
Postby Klick »
@Jake: I have no real reason not to hammer Seanald right now, while I think Rift has a significant chance of being a townie. I'm not really inclined to go through your posts.
Also, anyone could hammer anyone at this point - I'm just the only player who could choose to hammer either of them.
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Post #370 (isolation #10) » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:28 am
Postby Klick »
Rift, I think it's a good idea to lynch Jake now. He'll be hard to lynch later if he makes it to LyLo, and right now he has a really high chance of being scum.
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Post #384 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:46 pm
Postby Klick »
...lol. As did you. I have a verifiable history of believing in scumslips. Furthermore, even if this meta didn't exist, believing in scumslips is not a scumtell.
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Post #392 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:46 pm
Postby Klick »
Okay lol. I just actually bothered to look at what Jake was talking about. That's retarded.
In other news, We have two incredibly obvious scum in Jason and Seanald that I haven't heard any comments about. On the Jason thing, at least - there are at least votes on Seanald.
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Post #405 (isolation #17) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:55 am
Postby Klick »
In post 399, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Well, that'd be extreme stupidity given who else is voting rift, but ew I don't like the reasoning for scumjason at allll.
In post 406, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Um, some of the reasoning is good and fine and I agree with both of you on jason scum.
But part of it looks like "We MUST lynch the GFs first,
and anyone who disagrees with this is scum
."
Not necessarily scum, but at the very least not getting the realities of the situation.
After the first lynch/shoot we're at 3 town and 2 teams of 2 each scum.
If we lynch a godfather then it's 3 town and a team of (1 GF, 1G) because the other goon dies with the GF. If we lynch a goon then it's 3 town and (1 GF, 1G) and (1 GF). And it will be that much more difficult for town to control the next lynch because it's 3 votes out of 6 not 3 votes out of 5.
This really doesn't change the fact that lynching someone you feel is very strongly scum is more important than lynching someone who could be a Godfather, but isn't too scummy otherwise. I would lynch someone who is very likely a Goon over someone I'm not too sure about in any direction, because lynching a Goon, at the very least, does nothing hurtful.
@Jake: Do you agree with this line of logic?
PEdit: Pretty sure it works like regular Vengeful, in which a Goon will live if its GF is shot by a Vengekill.
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Post #496 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:49 am
Postby Klick »
Anyone really. I have no clue as to the GF, because you, MP5, and Siv have all been town reads at some point. I guess my best shot would be between you and Siv.
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Post #509 (isolation #32) » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:49 am
Postby Klick »
Refreshing my thoughts.
I'm going to assume that:
A. Rift and Seanald are not scum together. They both sat on each other's wagons for forever while they were both at L-1. Granted, Rift hammered Jason when the wagon popped up, but Rift-Goon Seanald-GF is still unlikely.
B. One of {Rift, Seanald} is scum. It's unlikely that the two popular wagons yesterday were both on town, and no scum attempted to hammer either of them. Meanwhile, the Jason lynch happened in a snap. If we go off of both of these, then from my PoV, there is also one scum in {MP5, Siv}.
Having a lynch/shoot if we're wrong from either group will give us a ton of information due to knowing either the GF or the Goon. Otherwise, I see no way to go forward with this info.
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Post #510 (isolation #33) » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 am
Postby Klick »
Well actually, MP5 sat on the Seanald wagon all throughout Day 2 while he was at L-1. This makes Seanald GF-MP5 Goon unlikely. Meaning the only person Seanald could be GF with is Siv, which I could actually see.
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Post #519 (isolation #36) » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:14 am
Postby Klick »
Yes, that one. It's town because there are only two possibilities - he's scum and planned to fake that, or he's town and actually didn't know. I don't think that's the first thing he does as scum here. But I dunno.
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Post #523 (isolation #38) » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:33 am
Postby Klick »
The thing is, if you're town, and I'm town, then MP5 can't be town. Unless you think a Rift/Seanald team is plausible? But at the same time, you've also done things that make me think you can't be scum. That's why I'm having such an issue with this.
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Post #543 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:49 pm
Postby Klick »
I'd like to hear how you came to that conclusion. I'm not in the best position to explain, but I think in particular the start of Day Three makes that scumteam very unlikely.
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Post #546 (isolation #41) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:24 pm
Postby Klick »
The part where I kinda voted him right off the bat, when he was very vulnerable to being lynched. Even if I was a GF and he was a Goon, that would be a terrible time to bus, especially since it doesn't really gain anything.
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Post #556 (isolation #44) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:59 am
Postby Klick »
So... I'm not sure I see a situation in which MP5 isn't scum, or at least a good lynch. He also has the added bonus of being the Godfather if he is scum.
VOTE: MP5
If you're town, you should shoot Siv. Reasoning being that, if I'm right, scum are split into the groups {MP5, Siv, Klick} and {Rift, Seanald}.