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I don't see any other way to read this.In post 0, Cheery Dog wrote:As you may have noticed when you /inned, the game is done with mechanics from the Vengeful Mafia Setup, meaning should you ever get the Mafia Godfather lynched, it's instant town win.-
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LOL at this.
Anyway, given mp5's newbie I suggest a utility lynch b/c I can't read him.
VOTE: mp5-
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Yeeah. The discussion is hard, so DROP THE HAMMAH WOOO/In post 174, Jake from State Farm wrote:you have a guy who wants "more discussion" yet drops the hammer without creating any discussion.-
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Anyway, I said something like it's really hard to tell the town/scum of who's left but he definitely gives me scumvibes.
I'm also paranoid about mp5. He's null which kinda leans scum with this ratio.
Rift looks town, but yeah I really don't want to commit to this. Same with JK, although he defended katsuki kinda hard which is a bit risky for scum, mebbe... Hmmmm.
I really don't want to try to split scum yet. Lynch jake first.-
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In my defence, katsuki was the only possible lynch so there didn't NEED to be any discussion.In post 251, Jake from State Farm wrote:Not the guy who hammered with no discussion at all?-
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Does it matter? We need to lynch scum, pure and simple.
Also I just realized the endgame is likely gonna happen, so um
Mod, what happens in a 2:1:1 endgame? Does Godfatherness have any effect?
^ About to be lynched Goon question. Still like to know it.
And jake, yes. I sheeped you. And now, I think you're scum. It's the same as not hammering for more discussion then hammering b/c I'm not making any discussion.-
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Well, it really doesn't matter as much from my perspective as everyone thinks I'm scum anyway so whoever you think is the third town is gonna have to disagree with you or vote with town unless it's a vote on me. So yeah. I'm gonna deliberately play scummily b/c I'm already seen as superscum.
And we're in LyLo I think. If we lynch a town we cannot win. Ohell. Time to serious mode activate.-
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Oh. Yeah. We have to go 2:1:2 and then lynch the godfather in the 2 which is hella unlikely.
2:1:1 has no incentive for scum to lynch so w/e.
And again, I agree with jason. Lynching the godfather isn't going to happen unless the other scumteam says "hey we're fine with lynching the godfather," or someone gets who the godfather is wrong. You have just said why this is NOT a good idea for scum, so
UNVOTE: seanald-
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In post 332, Jake from State Farm wrote:but nobody is even voting for you except klick so your post in 331 makes no sense really.
Mp5 wants to lynch me first.
Many people think I'm scum.
It's very possible I'm getting lynched.
And it's self-meta. I know what's lurking for me and what isn't and this isn't lurking. This is trolling. I lurk a lot as scum, because playing like I do as town gets me lynched, with both the town badplay fails and the scum imitation fails.-
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This? Ummm, I'm european, so bed.In post 385, Jake from State Farm wrote:siv, where did you go broseph?-
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Um, a situation of 3/2/1 is superior to a situation of 3/2/2, so work towards that.
For scum, is 3/2 better or worse than 3/2/1 as the 2? We both agree it's 3/2/1, so why would scum lynch the GF when they can get the opposing goon?
Also, this is a personal worry, but 3/2/1 and a town lynch can still be rather winnable for town.
Besides, i think your 2nd post of explanation on jason was the thingy or summat.-
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But this. This is what I didn't like.In post 294, Rift Adrift wrote:
The bolded is not a town thought process. Lynching a goon would make it 3-3.In post 293, JasonWazza wrote:If rift is town i will be extremely surprised, seriously.
I could see SeanaldMaybebeing scum, but i somehow doubt it, seanald is being seanald.
We shouldn't be looking to lynch "godfather's" and i use the term loosely, we should be looking for Mafia.
If they happen to be the godfather then good, if not it's no loss.-
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What's going on in my mind?
Rift looked vaguely town earlier, and apart from that one thing...
While seanald doesn't look town, he doesn't look incredibly scummy to me either. Tbh I haven't actually bothered looking. I've been sortof off in my own fantasy land where we were all agreed on lynching jake.-
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Okay, had a quick skim of some isos and methinks klick is very town.
My position is yucky. I find myself kinda agreeing with rift's reads yet simultaneously thinking rift is probably actually scum... Also stuck in "only 2 can be town" out of rift/mp5/klick/jason.
Can we pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase lynch jake?
I've a couple quotes saved up but hey tis just quotes my casemaking skills suck way more than my scumhunting does.-
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Venging a GF just kills the GF, unless it's different from normal vengefuls.
But still,Mod, can you confirm this?
Also jake, thank you for the compliment, but I'm not that good.
And rift, if we lynch a goon the game is still really difficult, but it's not as difficult as it is now, b/c atm it's REALLY badly against us.
Explain to me how 3/2/1 is worse than 3/2/2?
Also,Mod, in a 0/2/2 situation is it a tie between scumteams?
Also, I'm going to say if I'm the last townie I'm ruling against jake and then against rift and then against mp5 .-
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Right. The post directly above this is nice, but before that
"If we go to 3/2/1 it becomes much more difficult."In post 448, Rift Adrift wrote:OK. I do feel like if we lynch a goon next it becomes much more difficult for town to win this due to the numbers. Lynching a GF is best. Lynching a goon is 2nd best.
"I'm not comparing the current position to 3/2/1."In post 454, Rift Adrift wrote:I am not comparing 3-2-2 to 3-2-1. 3-2-2 is where we are now.
After today's lynch it can be one of three things: 3-2-1, 3-2, or 2-2-2. Of those, 3-2 is the best for town, and it is what I'm aiming for. If we get near deadline without a 3-2 possibility, then Syr and I will have no choice but to settle for a try at 3-2-1 but I won't be happy about it.
Okay. Anyway,
UNVOTE: jake from state farm
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Well, I'm a little screwed b/c I'm not in a solid unlynchable townblock of 3, but everyone's reads are screwed up by me so w/e.
Also, you're right.
3/2/1 less town becomes 2/2/1, where to continue either noshoot or 2/1/1, and 2/1/1 is scum to win need to lynch the other scum.
I could argue it's easier, because it's now 4 against 2, although 4v2 isn't easier than 3v2 necessarily...-
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OSHINOOOO.In post 459, Rift Adrift wrote:If you aren't actively trying to figure this out, you're creating a extremely convincing facsimile thereof.
This is me A) Being a gf and looking town b/c superscummy doesn't work after a point and B) ignoring my partner and just working out the rest of everyone.-
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