Micro 76 - Mafia in Verona (Game Over)

[petapan]

hello.

Peta, are you scum?

no stop trying to coordinate your nightkill

VOTE: mykonian

[petapan]

shut up

[petapan]

Hi.

hi

[petapan]

going to snipe page 2 by calling the scumteam in the air as deasvail/iceguy

UNVOTE:

VOTE: deasvail

[petapan]

mmm i think i nailed it

[petapan]

By the way, peta: why IceGuy?

combo of gut + townreads + slight guessing - i could sub some other names there but it would just be needlessly diluting the pressure

[petapan]

it's peta this time guys.

Deas is innocent.

[petapan]

Myko is town by meta. -_-

elaborate please

[petapan]

it's peta this time guys.

Deas is innocent.

How do you figure this?

Peta is off and I count on deas.

this is trash

konowa, malakittens is town. like, blatantly. vote someone else.

[petapan]

your reads are trash and so are you

[petapan]

no that's stupid and makes no sense

[petapan]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: IceGuy

[petapan]

I don't like peta because he's an ass, but that might not be indicative of allignment.

read your own game that i was in i'm a lot more abrasive as town usually

[petapan]

ok?

[petapan]

what's good or wrong about konowa peta?

I don't have a read on Konowa.

No and it's not an excuse. It's a reason and I'll try to get my phone to stop autocorrecting it.

Everyone is paranoid over the directing of night kills. I am too, but I'm not showing paranoida. Town has a lot higher chance to win then scum so use that to our advantage.

Is anyone really paranoid about this?

[petapan]

i wasn't serious

[petapan]

yes now selfhammer tia

[petapan]

okay bye

[petapan]

This is a bad lynch. We shouldn't lynch iceguy, with that wagon.

this lynch fuckin' owns and iceguy scumclaimed

[petapan]

hrmery

[petapan]

riddle me this. How does town get all five townies on one wagon when I don't want to be there and it's page 5, with a wagon that is sort of rapid?

I'm betting rather in favor of the odds when I call Iceguy town. Because there is scum on that wagon in the large majority of the cases, and I don't see why scum would bus now already.

there are 6 townies in this game

your theories are p much garbage b/c you're assuming scum are going to play rationally and predictably

yr town though

[petapan]

your theories are p much garbage b/c you're assuming scum are going to play rationally and predictably

mafia edit: and it's the job of scum to be unpredictable and therefore sometimes irrational

[petapan]

or it's because he was playing like scum and reacted like scum?

[petapan]

like i would legit hulk out on you right now for whiteknighting if not for that earlier post

[petapan]

or it's because he was playing like scum and reacted like scum?

even you can have a wrong read peta. I think this is one.

well that's just like your opinion man

[petapan]

I don't think IceGuy should be the lynch for today; maybe later, but there's scummier fish to fry.

Can I tempt anyone with a DeasVail wagon? I can't remember my reasons for voting for him off the top of my head, but I'm sure they were good!

stop

[petapan]

no i want you to stop making bad post

[petapan]

Hello.

hi you're finally in a game where i am town what a happy day

[petapan]

mykonian what is your read on konowa atm

[petapan]

What do you think of IceGuy's reactions since he was put at L-1?

i missed this but i did not like them

[petapan]

lol trying to push equinox

[petapan]

This game is hard. N and Myko are town, Equinox is prob town. DV is squarely null. Ice Guy and Konowa are just about evenly scummy. I would be 100% okay with a flash wagon on Peta right before deadline. I actually would embrace it with open arms. My opinion on this is heavily biased but that's okay.

can't read me still

[petapan]

i think psychologically scum don't want to be seen as trying to force a wagon through especially if it's losing momentum i think there are times where i've done that

[petapan]

that explanation for townreading konowa kind of stinks though

[petapan]

i like my vote where it is though

i stopped scumreading deasvail on page 3 i'd probably vote konowa over him

[petapan]

okay well we have 2 days now for mykonian to derphammer konowa instead of iceguy, can't wait

[petapan]

Nothing gives me a townread, but why is he scum?

I've never seen peta play this passive.

i'm not playing passively, that's a load of shit

[petapan]

also i want to know every single game you have read with me in it b/c the notion of you trying to metagame me is laughable

[petapan]

i'm voting fucking mafia you twat

[petapan]

something something lead a horse to water something something

[petapan]

*checks watch* gee mykonian sure is taking you a long time to explain what you're basing your meta of me on i hope you're not full of shit or anything

[petapan]

hey mykonian

fuck you

VOTE: mykonian

[petapan]

i'm going back on what i said earlier because that's the LAZIEST BULLSHIT you could possibly come up with and you're trying to lynch me off a meta-read YOU CAN'T EVEN EXPLAIN which means you're either scum or a fucking moron and deserve to be wiped off the face of the planet

[petapan]

i tried to be patient

i tried to be rational

i tried to not immediately flip a shit at anyone suspecting me

you've pushed me over the line, congratulations

[petapan]

see you've been tunneling me from page 1 and have yet to actually provide anything substantive, everytime i called you on your shit you moved the goalposts and said "oh that's not what i really mean" and now you try to force a deadline wagon on me with the rationale of "oh you're acting different" and when i ask you can't even fucking link games or provide examples


fuck you you fucking scumbag

[petapan]

being cheeky isn't going to save you because i have good faith that most of the people here aren't stupid and CF Riot is only voting me because he's afraid of me

[petapan]

i'm betting iceguy isn't even your partner with the way you defended him too which will make it all the more hilarious that you pushed me off of him

[petapan]

that's not what i said, read the post again, or don't, i don't really care what you have to say at this point because you are fucking scum of the earth

[petapan]

"a durr durr i have a great plan i'll randomly tunnel a guy from page 1 and not actually read anything posted that will make me look super town guis"

[petapan]

Can we just lynch that?

no because get this

no one has a coherent reason for me being scum

i mean jesus christ read mykonian's iso and ctrl+f my name, try to find anything that looks like it could be arising from a legitimate thought process

why the fuck are you voting me

[petapan]

Seriously though, do it in the order Konowa -> Malakittens -> petapan -> Equinox -> DeasVail.

uurrr urururu urururu durrr hurrrrrrrrr

[petapan]

actually just reading your iso reminded me that you are awful but maybe you just really suck at this game? will do research

[petapan]

okay so my frame of reference here is micro 60, micro 14 v. micro 41, micro 32 (lol)

honestly you're not nearly as much of a shitty useless oneline poster in any of those games as you are here so i have no idea what's going on this game but i suspect it could be a towntell as you seem to have no difficulty faking reasons on your votes as scum where here you're flopping around like a fish

still you're playing absolutely atrocious and will probably be lynched at some point, you should be aware of that fact

[petapan]

it's cute how you're not even pretending to try

[petapan]

like, do you even care about finding mafia this game?

[petapan]

i am playing

why am i mafia

[petapan]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

i mean lmao read your own iso dude before your accuse me of not actually playing

[petapan]

i'm not just ad-homming here either everything i say is based on your play this game - you put me at L-1 because i was the 'scummier of the two main wagons" but have never actually bothered explaining what that actually

means

your one effortpost has been the equinox case, which is a reach and a half, and when everyone laughed it down you just kind of shrug and forget about it

like dude are u even trying

[petapan]

it would own really hard if i'm getting tag-teamed by both scumbags here because they feel threatened but i just have a horrible feeling that's not the case

[petapan]

okay so either you can't follow my implicit thought process or you are scum, good jorb

[petapan]

i keep pitching you softball after softball and you keep falling to the ground and spasming while peeing your pants instead of taking a swing

[petapan]

so let me give you one last slow pitch before i change my mind, discard my earlier research, and tear you to pieces

just sit down and chat politely and ignore that i've said some mean things okay let's start with a clean slate

iceguy: could you please explain to me, in your own words, your reasons for suspecting the following players: me, konowa, malakittens.

[petapan]

doesn't really matter, a non-answer gives me just as much information, y'know?

[petapan]

i townread malakittens from page 1 and though DV sounded townish in post #63 so i unvoted him, beyond that i don't have a real read on anyone else

[petapan]

btw remember your shitty reasoning for townreading iceguy?

riddle me this. How does town get all five townies on one wagon when I don't want to be there and it's page 5, with a wagon that is sort of rapid?

I'm betting rather in favor of the odds when I call Iceguy town. Because there is scum on that wagon in the large majority of the cases, and I don't see why scum would bus now already.

yeah well this happened to me on page 3

VOTE: petapan

L-1.

so you've been tunneling me nonstop but ignore a read you use to defend iceguy to the death with you're scum you're caught i did it that's all i need

[petapan]

i townread malakittens from page 1 and though DV sounded townish in post #63 so i unvoted him, beyond that i don't have a real read on anyone else

And you're wondering why you're getting lynched?

HJAHAHAHA LIKE YOU HAVE ANY OPINIONS THIS GAME WHEN YOU CAN'T ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION

[petapan]

ps i'm not getting lynched because no one is going to sheep you

[petapan]

i townread malakittens from page 1 and though DV sounded townish in post #63 so i unvoted him, beyond that i don't have a real read on anyone else

And you seriously wonder why I have a scumread on you? It's simply not enough peta.

sorry i don't couch my null reads in flowery language you fucking scumbag

i mean jesus christ this is the height of hypocrisy

[petapan]

Peta, I only read two games of you, and one of them was rather long. You were town in both. And in none you played the game so little.

IT'S J-J-J-JUST NOT ENOUGH BAWWWW

i am verbally assassinating you two dopes right now and you can't even string together a coherent argument

get

fucked

[petapan]

scumbag

Don't make me want to lynch you...

sorry m8 i need to make it clear i think he is scum and am trying not to get too ad-hom

[petapan]

also ftr i'm hammering iceguy as soon as someone else votes him because he's blatantly choking and refuses to answer simple questions while trying to poke at me like a smug bastard thinking i'm going to hang myself by raging (i'm not) - any earlier doubts went out the window when he completely refused to engage

[petapan]

you have nothing

you can't even fake like you have something

you're just blatantly ignoring me when i tear your half-assed arguments to pieces and posting smiley emoticons to try to brush it off

your false bravado does not hide the total dishonesty of every statement you make

[petapan]

i will destroy u

[petapan]

mykonian's reads he is liek totally super confident in u guiz hes rly sure"

- iceguy is town because a bunch of people voted him, ignoring questions and points nade by other players isn't a scumtell because i love to do it as well

- peta is scum because a bunch of people voted him and i don't like him so i'll say he's not posting content and hope he doesn't call me out on the paucity of my own supposed reads

- equinox is town because she unvoted iceguy

- konowa is scum because he made an excuse in a post (for not posting) and had a far-fetched reason for a vote (on page 3) but then a bunch of people voted him fast so maybe he's not!!!

- malakittens was town because she called me town because LOL IF SOMEONE CALLS ME TOWN EARLY ON THEY ARE TOWN RITE GUISE???

- deas is town, except no wait he isn't because [citation needed]


wow those r sum strong reads guis

you are

full

of

shit

mykonian

and i will see you hang for it

[petapan]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... g#p4409458
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... g#p4393848 (bonus points for charter calling out myk-scum on exactly the same shit he's doing this game (also u were in this 1 cmon son))
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... g#p4377632

is 3 enough

it's vernacular term that is just favored by certain players and also tends to be associated with rage, like mine which is genuine because i have honestly been trying to openly engage myk/iceguy in an argument and they dodge dip duck dive and dodge every point i throw at them in favor of bland vague statements

honestly i'll be damned if they're the scumteam because that would be the worst mafia team ever but independently i scumread both of them because they are being unreasonable and ignoring every argument i make and acting like they have

prima facie

evidence

[petapan]

no he wasn't but i can understand getting irked at someone's language - i find phrases like "fail" and "flailing" scummy and looking into that seems townish - if he'd just up and voted me that would be horrible

[petapan]

i have honestly been trying to openly engage

You started talking after you got voted. Before that, you didn't do a thing, apart from sitting on Iceguy.

lol lol lol

maybe you shouldn't have made the mistake of pissing me off then because now all you can do is try to snipe at me and just dig your hole even deeper

[petapan]

dear N: I understand why you scumread deasvail. in general, asking a lot of questions without a clear thrust is something i would consider a scumtell however i think he was going places with the questions he asked and i think his reactions are townish, rather than being scummy. him being weirded out by mykonian townreading him early was townish. so is him not really having any strong reads since the activity in the game lagged a bit. same with getting weirded out by how i was talking - if i thought he was a noobish player, i would take it as a scumtell but i think he's a smart enough guy he doesn't just pick on anything he can find. it's hard to explain and i've typed that sentence up a billion times trying to word it properly but what i am getting at here is please

read what i am saying about mykonian

notice how i'm pointing out the failings in all his arguments and he's just ignoring them

that is not town play

deasvail is a bum ticket man

[petapan]

DV, why myk over IG?
I'm having a hard time swallowing IG and mykonian both as scum.

i agree and have said as much but i do believe that at least one is scum, not in a lining up lynches sort of way but neither is playing to a town wincon, iceguy annoys me but a little part of me says maybe he's just a little butthurt but i cannot see mykonian as town

but i think one of them is and i think mykonian just decided at the start of the game that he was going to tunnel me no matter what, and it shows because at first i think he's just horsing around in RVS but he persists, i try to reason with him, try to get him to explain his read and he

blatantly

cannot back it up with anything concrete, he evades all my counter-arguments in favor of rehashing the same bullshit rhetoric and it's not town behavior - he just wants to call me scum, and would do so regardless of anything i've done. it's not reasoned or logical and he has absolutely withered from trying to defend his reads which means

he doesn't actually believe in them

tldr; vote mykonian for a better future

also the reason i'm not ripping on CF Riot even though his vote on me is similarly lulzy is because i townread malakittens because her early posting was super-earnest, and CF Riot has actual meta on me that makes his vote understandable - in both games i have played with him, i was scum and beat him in lylo so

naturally

he's going to be paranoid of me because he will see my play this game as similar to my scum play, when in reality it's just me being me

[petapan]

actually if you want another point search his iso for my name - he hasn't gotten off my nuts from his first post and even if he tries to claim my play was lazy that

doesn't explain why he was tunneling me to begin with

[petapan]

I'm just posting to say I read Peta's tantrum but I'm still alright with my vote.

so do i get to upgrade your vote status from fear lynch to grudge lynch?

[petapan]

because dismissing everything i've said as a "tantrum" makes you look like a pissy baby, not me - i'm putting forth legitimate content and trying to blow it off with a one-liner is s t u p i d

[petapan]

dude what the hell is wrong with you

[petapan]

why are you being mean to me

[petapan]

iceguy was not scum after 1 post, it was more or less his lousy silent L-1 vote on me like "hey guys it's cool if i join this wagon right"

his complete nonresponse then kept me baying for his blood (water?).

as for malakittens,

How is that indication of trying to coordinate a NK?

It looked like a reaction test and your response is horrible.

Apparently he was joking because he didn't vote you. Looks as if he's trying to spark discussion.

this post just feels sincere if you think i'm lying about that i can't change your mind but it's just The Truth all i can say


but if you really think i'm scum shouldn't you be doing more

like at least play ball here because mykonian and iceguy won't swing at anything i throw them and i got nothing against you

[petapan]

ahhh man i forgot about that

i believe i said i was basically just guessing on iceguy - deasvail was a gut read that i later went back on. it's not substantive and didn't influence why i voted for iceguy. i did that because i thought it'd be fun if i turned out to be right, but it was probably wrong so i won't look super cool

as for the one post, it's a gut read, surely this is not something completely new to you? i gutread two players as town (correctly) in the ill-fated arkham horror smalltown so it's not like i'm trying to show off

regardless though i can see you're inclined to disbelieve me, okay, but explain to me what the scum motivation is in me faking an early townread on malakittens of all people?

[petapan]

well i didn't and i probably wouldn't and you're right but i wanted to see what you would say. i guess usually i defend people as scum when i'm trying to come across as playing to my town meta but it's rvs why bother, why stick to it pages later idk yaeh i know endless possibilities just seems kind of weak as a primary reason for suspicion

anyway this is clearly an impasse where i can only state my feelings and you won't believe me but thanks for at least talking with me

but if you're town you should probably be working harder to lynch me. or maybe looking at the people with you on the wagon. either/or. anyway nice chat glad we had it

[petapan]

yeah, you changed it because you don't have real reads

[petapan]

totally willing to vote iceguy and i'll be around but as i said mykonian lulztunneling me all game isn't just something that grinds my gears it's an action that lacks town motivation