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the pop in feels like it’s at a point where pressure could swing to me and the reason is like the most basic. paired with his few posts which seem very… uninterested in stuff like the miller claims and posts after. like it’s a chance to lambast me with a refusal to talk about anything else happening or what could support his worldview etc.
oh come on this is ridiculous and you know it
what's your argument against mine?
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Post #292 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:04 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 264, Ydrasse wrote:
the pooky thing is played out and obligatory but i find it interesting (scummy flavored) that he doesn’t seem to care about exploring the content that could maybe help him parse a slot he often plays with and interacts with etc
I'm always gonna have my little clash with Pooky but I think it's entirely and obviously irrelevant to my alignment this game and I think this is an incredibly weak argument to use to SR me
@Dunn - I get that you like the post but you really believe that's sufficient for a townread? 177 and 179 reads as though you're POEing via your townreads and that feels kinda rote and simplistic. I don't think mafia is incapable of producing catboi's ISO so far
I knew I was going to have to talk about this eventually. I've gone back and forth on the slot but ATM I feel it is not a wagon I want to pursue. Call it null town. I think the posts read like a scum overreaction but I can see where a town player reacts like this especially in this type of game where I'm sure people were excited to play in this one, it sucks getting sunk with a wagon within 24 hours of day one open
In post 264, Ydrasse wrote:
he doesn’t seem to care about exploring the content that could maybe help him parse a slot he often plays with and interacts with etc
this is a wild take because I can't remember cakez trying to parse me ever
cakez shows up to games with you and i imagine him cloistered away within a tower writing feverishly to himself, pondering your alignment as he tries to chart the stars in case they might give him a sign
lmao an actually accurate Ydrasse post here I'll be fair
the pop in feels like it’s at a point where pressure could swing to me and the reason is like the most basic. paired with his few posts which seem very… uninterested in stuff like the miller claims and posts after. like it’s a chance to lambast me with a refusal to talk about anything else happening or what could support his worldview etc.
oh come on this is ridiculous and you know it
what's your argument against mine?
like i'm unsure what you're even asking me to directly challenge here. your read on me as informed?
the answer is "i'm not", i don't think that elle's responses were drafted by mafia for explained reasons
impasse
okay and so how does that invalidate my read
I don't see how from your PoV you think this is a scum push rather then a town mis-push. Ergo scum PoV.
In post 264, Ydrasse wrote:
the pooky thing is played out and obligatory but i find it interesting (scummy flavored) that he doesn’t seem to care about exploring the content that could maybe help him parse a slot he often plays with and interacts with etc
I'm always gonna have my little clash with Pooky but I think it's entirely and obviously irrelevant to my alignment this game and I think this is an incredibly weak argument to use to SR me
also i don't really think this is like. entirely true because it's a Behavior factored into meta and the things that you do in game so i think that how you treat it could give insight to your alignment. i don't think it's the Strongest reason to call someone mafia but i think it's possible you felt like you had to go through the basic motions of giving him/it attention without actually caring about the more important engagement with it.
so then what would you be arguing if I came into this game without doing it? "Oh it's weird why Cakez didn't anything to Pooky, seems kinda scummy?"
Me doing it or not is not AI
the pop in feels like it’s at a point where pressure could swing to me and the reason is like the most basic. paired with his few posts which seem very… uninterested in stuff like the miller claims and posts after. like it’s a chance to lambast me with a refusal to talk about anything else happening or what could support his worldview etc.
oh come on this is ridiculous and you know it
what's your argument against mine?
like i'm unsure what you're even asking me to directly challenge here. your read on me as informed?
the answer is "i'm not", i don't think that elle's responses were drafted by mafia for explained reasons
impasse
okay and so how does that invalidate my read
I don't see how from your PoV you think this is a scum push rather then a town mis-push. Ergo scum PoV.
because i'm taking it in conjunction with the stuff i've said about pooky?
you made the post, i read your iso after, and i ended up disliking what you've done.
Ydrasse you're really good but your arguments this game are straight and I don't think you'd be making them as town
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Post #333 (isolation #19) » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:56 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 326, Bell wrote:
Not sure what the pseudo condescension from SC is about. I’m not scum so I don’t care as much. But I’m trying to figure out if he’s bitter scum, bein’ bitter, or if he’s being too repulsive to *be* scum because, obviously, pleasing folk is a nice way to win games of mafia as mafia.
what are you referring to here? i don't really feel like i've been bitter this game I'm just feeling aggressive because I have a strong scum vibe from ydrasse and I don't always get that
In post 264, Ydrasse wrote:
the pooky thing is played out and obligatory but i find it interesting (scummy flavored) that he doesn’t seem to care about exploring the content that could maybe help him parse a slot he often plays with and interacts with etc
I'm always gonna have my little clash with Pooky but I think it's entirely and obviously irrelevant to my alignment this game and I think this is an incredibly weak argument to use to SR me
also i don't really think this is like. entirely true because it's a Behavior factored into meta and the things that you do in game so i think that how you treat it could give insight to your alignment. i don't think it's the Strongest reason to call someone mafia but i think it's possible you felt like you had to go through the basic motions of giving him/it attention without actually caring about the more important engagement with it.
so then what would you be arguing if I came into this game without doing it? "Oh it's weird why Cakez didn't anything to Pooky, seems kinda scummy?"
Me doing it or not is not AI
i feel like you're being obtuse right now and intentionally missing the point.
i think that you came into the game and gave the bare minimum amount of attention you had to to pooky because it's ritual. and people notice when that sort of behavior isn't gone.
however, once you did that your actual engagement with "content", the things you could like actually use to get yourself into the game based off of that when it was topical (the meuh/pooky miller thing) was not there, it didn't seem to register to you and i feel like that's a sign you're not really reading or caring to solve the game.
i don't get what you're getting at here. i did engage the pooky and miller stuff but then i moved on because it obviously was not going to be fruitful for my scumhunting purposes. i don't know what you mean by it not registering to me.
the pop in feels like it’s at a point where pressure could swing to me and the reason is like the most basic. paired with his few posts which seem very… uninterested in stuff like the miller claims and posts after. like it’s a chance to lambast me with a refusal to talk about anything else happening or what could support his worldview etc.
oh come on this is ridiculous and you know it
what's your argument against mine?
like i'm unsure what you're even asking me to directly challenge here. your read on me as informed?
the answer is "i'm not", i don't think that elle's responses were drafted by mafia for explained reasons
impasse
okay and so how does that invalidate my read
I don't see how from your PoV you think this is a scum push rather then a town mis-push. Ergo scum PoV.
because i'm taking it in conjunction with the stuff i've said about pooky?
you made the post, i read your iso after, and i ended up disliking what you've done.
Ydrasse you're really good but your arguments this game are straight and I don't think you'd be making them as town
like i don't know what to say to this but i think it's a really scummy post when you're actively like misinterpreting what i'm saying (and i feel that other people will blatantly... be able to tell what's happening) and then also adding the softening little "you're good omg" to it which, i think maybe is scummy because i'm reading everything else you're doing right now as that but it just feels like one of those little "things" people add to try and make a post seem more real
the point of the "you're good" was to situate why I find your current pushes to be so weak
In post 316, Dunnstral wrote:
Their vote put pressure on Ydrasse at a time when people were considering voting for Ydrasse
i want to clarify that this isn't based off of explicit, in thread posts people have said about wanting to vote me but a general "atmosphere" around some questioning that i felt. i am fighting ghosts as well as mafia.
i find this post to be extremely scummy
ydrasse earlier attacked me by saying I voted her because other people were thinking about voting her and I was trying to take advantage. now suddenly she's saying that there was nothing explicit but just some feelings she had. how does this make sense at all with her argument that I was scum manipulating the gamestate? i literally could not have had access to her feelings about the game atmosphere. just nonsensical.
In post 264, Ydrasse wrote:
the pooky thing is played out and obligatory but i find it interesting (scummy flavored) that he doesn’t seem to care about exploring the content that could maybe help him parse a slot he often plays with and interacts with etc
I'm always gonna have my little clash with Pooky but I think it's entirely and obviously irrelevant to my alignment this game and I think this is an incredibly weak argument to use to SR me
also i don't really think this is like. entirely true because it's a Behavior factored into meta and the things that you do in game so i think that how you treat it could give insight to your alignment. i don't think it's the Strongest reason to call someone mafia but i think it's possible you felt like you had to go through the basic motions of giving him/it attention without actually caring about the more important engagement with it.
also she's exactly right here, like Cakez do you seriously believe your interactions with Pooky are "obviously irrelevant" to your alignment? you don't think it matters at all that in one world you know his alignment and in one world you don't, like that won't manifest in how you treat him??
i'm speaking more generally than that, i'm saying that me addressing Pooky at game start is not relevant given that i will always do so, and so it's a weak argument to use. of course further interactions w Pooky and me are gonna have relevant gamesolving info.
In post 294, SirCakez wrote:
I think the posts read like a scum overreaction but I can see where a town player reacts like this especially in this type of game where I'm sure people were excited to play in this one, it sucks getting sunk with a wagon within 24 hours of day one open
so you think elle is town (or at least null town), but you see Ydrasse coming to the same read as TMI - is that specific to the way she expressed the read or is the read itself inherently suspicious to you?
and which read came first (elle townread vs ydra scumread) and to what degree do they impact each other, if at all. like are you adding any weight to your elle townread because you think Ydra TMI'd the slot, or are these things largely unrelated in your mind
yes it's the way she expressed it - i don't really believe her trajectory and how she got to that read from her posts, it seems generated
they came about the same time - it's still pretty early this game...at this point my Ydra read is not really related to my elle read much, it's just too early
In post 316, Dunnstral wrote:
Ydrasse points against SirCakez:
o Their vote put pressure on Ydrasse at a time when people were considering voting for Ydrasse
o Their interaction with Pooky is suspicious because they avoided talking about the miller claim to "get into the game", and they would do so as town
o They are being obtuse in their interaction with Ydrasse and missing the point on purpose, including misrepping what Ydrasse is saying
SirCakez points against Ydrasse:
o Their interactions with elle (1L) on page 8 are informed
o Their responses to SirCakez's questions are bad and Ydrasse would have better arguments as town
In post 316, Dunnstral wrote:
Ydrasse points against SirCakez:
o Their vote put pressure on Ydrasse at a time when people were considering voting for Ydrasse
o Their interaction with Pooky is suspicious because they avoided talking about the miller claim to "get into the game", and they would do so as town
o They are being obtuse in their interaction with Ydrasse and missing the point on purpose, including misrepping what Ydrasse is saying
SirCakez points against Ydrasse:
o Their interactions with elle (1L) on page 8 are informed
o Their responses to SirCakez's questions are bad and Ydrasse would have better arguments as town
what are your thoughts about a Cakez vote?
I find the notion of voting SirCakez agreeable
what is this stuff? just vote me if you feel something it's always weird to me when people like look for approval for their votes before placing them.
In post 337, SirCakez wrote:
what is this stuff? just vote me if you feel something it's always weird to me when people like look for approval for their votes before placing them.
I was asking Dunn specifically because I am getting a weird vibe around him where he seems to be suspecting you but isn't voting you (or voting at all, for that matter).
I don't need his approval to vote you lol you misunderstand my post completely if you think that's what I was asking for
In post 264, Ydrasse wrote:
the pooky thing is played out and obligatory but i find it interesting (scummy flavored) that he doesn’t seem to care about exploring the content that could maybe help him parse a slot he often plays with and interacts with etc
I'm always gonna have my little clash with Pooky but I think it's entirely and obviously irrelevant to my alignment this game and I think this is an incredibly weak argument to use to SR me
also i don't really think this is like. entirely true because it's a Behavior factored into meta and the things that you do in game so i think that how you treat it could give insight to your alignment. i don't think it's the Strongest reason to call someone mafia but i think it's possible you felt like you had to go through the basic motions of giving him/it attention without actually caring about the more important engagement with it.
so then what would you be arguing if I came into this game without doing it? "Oh it's weird why Cakez didn't anything to Pooky, seems kinda scummy?"
Me doing it or not is not AI
i feel like you're being obtuse right now and intentionally missing the point.
i think that you came into the game and gave the bare minimum amount of attention you had to to pooky because it's ritual. and people notice when that sort of behavior isn't gone.
however, once you did that your actual engagement with "content", the things you could like actually use to get yourself into the game based off of that when it was topical (the meuh/pooky miller thing) was not there, it didn't seem to register to you and i feel like that's a sign you're not really reading or caring to solve the game.
i don't get what you're getting at here. i did engage the pooky and miller stuff but then i moved on because it obviously was not going to be fruitful for my scumhunting purposes. i don't know what you mean by it not registering to me.
the pop in feels like it’s at a point where pressure could swing to me and the reason is like the most basic. paired with his few posts which seem very… uninterested in stuff like the miller claims and posts after. like it’s a chance to lambast me with a refusal to talk about anything else happening or what could support his worldview etc.
oh come on this is ridiculous and you know it
what's your argument against mine?
like i'm unsure what you're even asking me to directly challenge here. your read on me as informed?
the answer is "i'm not", i don't think that elle's responses were drafted by mafia for explained reasons
impasse
okay and so how does that invalidate my read
I don't see how from your PoV you think this is a scum push rather then a town mis-push. Ergo scum PoV.
because i'm taking it in conjunction with the stuff i've said about pooky?
you made the post, i read your iso after, and i ended up disliking what you've done.
Ydrasse you're really good but your arguments this game are straight and I don't think you'd be making them as town
like i don't know what to say to this but i think it's a really scummy post when you're actively like misinterpreting what i'm saying (and i feel that other people will blatantly... be able to tell what's happening) and then also adding the softening little "you're good omg" to it which, i think maybe is scummy because i'm reading everything else you're doing right now as that but it just feels like one of those little "things" people add to try and make a post seem more real
the point of the "you're good" was to situate why I find your current pushes to be so weak
okay so i have to ask,
1) why isn’t it fruitful when i feel other people made use of it to you
2) what other things are helpful in comparison other than whatever this is
and as for the last point it literally says nothing at all about my pushes or alignment. good and bad don’t mean anything when i feel you haven’t qualified what they mean. it doesn’t actually have weight.
I've never been able to scumhunt with Miller claims, this discussion already happened earlier, I'm just gonna leave them until we have a bigger idea of the setup. and I can't do anything with Pooky until he actually gives me something to read him with, which he hasn't this game so far. he's been shitposting like 90% of his posts and I just don't have a vibe yet one way or the other
by "good" my point is that I think your pushes as town have more merit and logic behind them then the stuff you've been saying this game. 317 for example just doesn't make sense to me
In post 316, Dunnstral wrote:
Their vote put pressure on Ydrasse at a time when people were considering voting for Ydrasse
i want to clarify that this isn't based off of explicit, in thread posts people have said about wanting to vote me but a general "atmosphere" around some questioning that i felt. i am fighting ghosts as well as mafia.
i find this post to be extremely scummy
ydrasse earlier attacked me by saying I voted her because other people were thinking about voting her and I was trying to take advantage. now suddenly she's saying that there was nothing explicit but just some feelings she had. how does this make sense at all with her argument that I was scum manipulating the gamestate? i literally could not have had access to her feelings about the game atmosphere. just nonsensical.
yes these two things are not somehow exclusive for one another and i don’t think that everyone in a game says explicitly what they’re thinking as a potential choice to do. i think the questioning prior to your vote came at a time where it was more likely inertia would work with that vote than not. i think that this manifests at least once later with meuh too hemming a bit about where she would go though it seems she later changed course more.
i don't really buy this at all
what makes my vote illegitimate as compared to the other people who were "questioning" or whatever?
In post 316, Dunnstral wrote:
Their vote put pressure on Ydrasse at a time when people were considering voting for Ydrasse
i want to clarify that this isn't based off of explicit, in thread posts people have said about wanting to vote me but a general "atmosphere" around some questioning that i felt. i am fighting ghosts as well as mafia.
i find this post to be extremely scummy
ydrasse earlier attacked me by saying I voted her because other people were thinking about voting her and I was trying to take advantage. now suddenly she's saying that there was nothing explicit but just some feelings she had. how does this make sense at all with her argument that I was scum manipulating the gamestate? i literally could not have had access to her feelings about the game atmosphere. just nonsensical.
yes these two things are not somehow exclusive for one another and i don’t think that everyone in a game says explicitly what they’re thinking as a potential choice to do. i think the questioning prior to your vote came at a time where it was more likely inertia would work with that vote than not. i think that this manifests at least once later with meuh too hemming a bit about where she would go though it seems she later changed course more.
i don't really buy this at all
what makes my vote illegitimate as compared to the other people who were "questioning" or whatever?
like if anything, wouldn't it be more townie that I actually put a vote down instead of just making "ydrasse scummy" vibes that you said you felt
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Post #418 (isolation #31) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:10 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 392, Ydrasse wrote:
i’m going to try to explain again my issue with your vote on me at the time, with the caveat i’m less heated right now because your last post in that big quote chain felt reasonable to me and i might be wrong
i don’t think that, in games, people explicitly say what they are thinking or could potentially do which is obvious, however i think that sometimes the “feel” of what they could do can permeate the thread. (i feel like an insane person)
as in mafia are always going to be reading the thread and see what direction they could push it in potentially even if no one has outright said they want me dead, at that point i felt that your vote on me was one rhat would be pushing on me, an agenda kd kt makes it like easier to say i guess
that was my issue with your vote on me given that i thought it was a weak vote for the informed reasonkng and then after your attitude felt not great
i understand this and the thread vibes you were talking about
im still hung up on how you think I could have felt the same vibes as you and taken advantage based on those. which i don't really think either of us can prove what we felt in that moment so this might be a solving dead end as it were. so i just wanna see some new stuff.
In post 418, SirCakez wrote:
i understand this and the thread vibes you were talking about
im still hung up on how you think I could have felt the same vibes as you and taken advantage based on those.
ok so Cakez this is getting at the same question/thought I have about your 335
do you think the vibes/atmosphere of the game that Ydrasse is talking about actually did exist in her point of view? or do you think she's fabricating the 'vibes' as a reason to push you?
I think as either alignment Ydrasse may have genuinely felt people were going to suspect her, and if she's town wouldn't it make sense to see the timing of your vote as suspicious? I don't think it's an inherently
scummy
argument, even if I could imagine her also making it as scum
i don't know
i'm trying to read if it was genuine or not
it could be
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Post #461 (isolation #34) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:56 pm
Postby SirCakez »
I'm struggling with Ydrasse now because I feel her reach out to me was town and maybe she did really have the thread vibes and idk I need a better vote now while I think
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Post #463 (isolation #36) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:05 pm
Postby SirCakez »
VOTE: luke
blah blah I'm avoiding pooky etc etc
Catboi is right that this was a scummy entrance and it's stronger then my null town read on elle was. I'm going to point to some specific stuff in a bit.
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Post #466 (isolation #38) » Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:11 pm
Postby SirCakez »
In post 448, Lukewarm wrote:
I asked because you seemed very focused on convincing me that you are town. But you are also voting for me.
But I liked your response well enough.
In post 446, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
like I don't really get how you reread the game to here and came to that as the most noteworthy thing to push on
it feels like its been cherrypicked out of GL's iso to fit a specific narrative that is not actually even that convincing tbh
What do you think is the most noteworthy thing to push on at this point, if not that?
I don't really feel like anyone has jumped out and claimed scum yet at this point, do you feel like I missed something?
I have bell and meuh as both likely town. Soft leaning town on Ydra.
I thought a lot about you, but the passion behind that scum read went away.
Cakez posts have largely felt like ones that I don't know how to sort one way or the other, although I did like his take on Ydra seeming informed (even if I am not sure I agree) as a reasonable suspicion that he could have in the moment that he voiced it.
Dunn and Catboi, I don't have either down as town, but did not see any particularly noteworthy reason to suspect them either.
And then there is my GL suspicion, so that is where my vote is.
Where should my vote be, if not there? what did I miss in my catch up?
Like example this reads post
Like some is fine but some of it like the read on me, on Dunn and Catboi seems kinda manufactured/positioning himself and then the last line just feels like scum annoyed at being pushed for wrong reasons type vibe
and a lot of the Luke posts have given me that kinda scum attitude feeling
sorry I know this probably makes like no sense lol
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Post #586 (isolation #41) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:26 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 474, Lukewarm wrote:
I do not think that I am generally very good at convincing people I am town once I am on the "back foot" as pooky put it, and the thread starts being about me (to be fair, this is probably as true if I were scum as it is when I am town).
And seeing as how I hit E-1 already, and I don't plan on throwing myself all into "proving myself" or what ever, so I think I'll just claim.
I am a 2-shot Tracker.
So, yall can discuss if yall are killing me for claiming, or letting me live for being a PR, and decide on that basis.
And I'll just skip the hassle of trying so hard if I am dying today.
In post 464, SirCakez wrote:
catboi I want to say is town but I'm worried he may be trying to pocket me so idk. Wouldn't vote rn but definitely not safe town
look i'm just trying to save you from being misyeeted for once in your career
ok well I appreciate you if you're town here <3
but if you're scum
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Post #588 (isolation #43) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:31 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 514, Bell wrote:
Ah, Pooky cult counter, numbers go up.
It's so fucking weird that he's probably not scum this game because of the opening miller claim, and yet I cannot shake it. I want to vig the bear.
anyway, anyway,
hmm, 2 day tracker. I don't super care.
I find catboi's take on Luke's interactions with the tvt thing surprisingly persuasive. I'm kind of wondering about how they're addressing push back though. They respond differently to pressure than I do though.
I am impressed Cakeboy did in fact piss me off by leaving Luke at E-1. I understand the difference in philosophy in mafia, but come the fuck on.
*ahem* don't worry. it has nothing to do with the game.
Probably. I kind of think Cakez would see it being a bigger problem leaving his vote there than if he didn't.
Then again, he did.
Cakez, Machismo is not a good approach to get explanations or answers for questions you have and I'm confused why you say I'm correct that there was machismo in that post, while also somehow expecting an answer to that question.
In post 436, Lukewarm wrote:
Your line of questioning with Dunn did not appear to lead to you voicing any thoughts on Dunn's alignment wrt his Catboi read, nor did you seem to argue that Catboi was scum. It was just "but scum catboi COULD do that too, so you should not town read him." And that being the where that conversation led, left me with that impression.
I also, just, in general do not trust that sort of argument as genuine, because it seems to set a precedent that in order to think someone is more likely to be town, you must believe that their actions could not be replicated. And that is a very silly bar to set for town reads.
on this - I don't think I really had a lot of substantial thoughts on Dunn's alignment, at least not worth sharing. I felt most of his reads seemed artificial and formulaic, outside of when he had the same take as I did on Ydra. That's what is kinda hanging me up as I don't see the scum motivation for that read if Ydra is town, and the fact that he had the same reasoning regarding her scum meta felt mindmeld-y. but the catboi read was concerningly easy and I was trying to suss out to what degree he actually believes in it. I also generally don't like that he seemed reluctant to put down a vote on Cakez
I've been unsure of how to feel re:catboi as well but assuming you're telling the truth here I am thinking he's probably mafia
You quoted me giving a summary of Ydrasse and SirCakez. Nowhere in the post you had quoted did I suggest that I wanted to vote SirCakez
In post 316, Dunnstral wrote:
Ydrasse points against SirCakez:
o Their vote put pressure on Ydrasse at a time when people were considering voting for Ydrasse
o Their interaction with Pooky is suspicious because they avoided talking about the miller claim to "get into the game", and they would do so as town
o They are being obtuse in their interaction with Ydrasse and missing the point on purpose, including misrepping what Ydrasse is saying
SirCakez points against Ydrasse:
o Their interactions with elle (1L) on page 8 are informed
o Their responses to SirCakez's questions are bad and Ydrasse would have better arguments as town
what are your thoughts about a Cakez vote?
And I don't think the post you quoted is showing suspicion on SirCakez.
I think you used my response to you asking if I would vote SirCakez as your reason to point towards me suspecting SirCakez after the fact, which doesn't make sense.
this is a good Dunn post - 523 doesn't compute. The "being reluctant to put down a vote on Cakez" point is bad because GL is guilty of the exact same thing. I also don't really believe that GL had that sort of nullscummish read on Dunn from his earlier posts.
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Post #591 (isolation #46) » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:38 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 558, Bell wrote:
Except of whether Sircakez is or is not a misanthrope. Which is the actual case before the court. And this mafia game is just a pretext for that.
i do like the show House so maybe there's something there
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Post #674 (isolation #49) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 3:09 am
Postby SirCakez »
catboi the reason I was/am considering voting you is because your reaction to the recent pressure on you has felt off tonally, it feels like way more concerned with the votes then I feel like you'd normally respond as town. I mean just look at the last two pages - I feel like that claim was really dramatic and unprompted and it doesn't feel organic.
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Post #679 (isolation #52) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:16 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 533, catboi wrote:
As for me "not actively trying to sort you" - you weren't here, dude. What are you expecting me to do when you're not posting in the game? Why do you think I didn't just vote you? I mean, probably because I'm still trying to sort you?
In post 533, catboi wrote:
As for me "not actively trying to sort you" - you weren't here, dude. What are you expecting me to do when you're not posting in the game? Why do you think I didn't just vote you? I mean, probably because I'm still trying to sort you?
like these are just gut feels really but this kinda felt like scum indignance at being pushed for something he thinks is NAI
In post 546, catboi wrote:
Not primarily real time, more of a "wait and see" player. You were absent for a day and the most relevant stuff was seeing how you would respond to luke and what you'd do after that. I certainly don't feel like me voting you would have helped anything and I had nothing in particular I wanted to ask you.
I dunno, you're free to choose to not believe me if you want. I'm not that worried because I don't think I'll actually go over today. If you actually want to figure out if my read is genuine, ask me questions about it?
here's another example, this is one of those vibes where i can't really describe it that well, but like stuff like "you're free to choose not to believe me if you want" feels like such a weird thing to say from a catboi town PoV where he has indicated some suspicion of GL already
In post 533, catboi wrote:
As for me "not actively trying to sort you" - you weren't here, dude. What are you expecting me to do when you're not posting in the game? Why do you think I didn't just vote you? I mean, probably because I'm still trying to sort you?
In post 539, catboi wrote:
Now, GL gets a pass for this because he doesn't know my scumgame and is making the common fallacy that me lacking energy is a scumtell. But you - you've seen my scumgame. Do you think I, at any time as scum, come across as dispassionate? As lacking the will to put conviction behind a push?
like these are just gut feels really but this kinda felt like scum indignance at being pushed for something he thinks is NAI
In post 546, catboi wrote:
Not primarily real time, more of a "wait and see" player. You were absent for a day and the most relevant stuff was seeing how you would respond to luke and what you'd do after that. I certainly don't feel like me voting you would have helped anything and I had nothing in particular I wanted to ask you.
I dunno, you're free to choose to not believe me if you want. I'm not that worried because I don't think I'll actually go over today. If you actually want to figure out if my read is genuine, ask me questions about it?
here's another example, this is one of those vibes where i can't really describe it that well, but like stuff like "you're free to choose not to believe me if you want" feels like such a weird thing to say from a catboi town PoV where he has indicated some suspicion of GL already
In post 680, SirCakez wrote:
but this is tough because I don't think catboi/GL make any sense as scum together and I also find things independently scummy from GL
How is that tough? Just kill the one you suspect more of being scum individually.
its tough because i find them independently scummy but them not being SvS means even if I'm right there's still another scum out there and I just keep going through the playerlist and being like who tf is scum this game
we have:
pooky and meuh the miller claims
luke who claimed pr
ydra who im really stuck with and keep going back and forth on
dunn who I think is playing like town here
and then you and honestly I don't know what to think about you this game Bell but I wouldn't vote you today
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Post #687 (isolation #57) » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:28 am
Postby SirCakez »
In post 685, Lukewarm wrote:
(I also feel like there are easy answers to your proposed dilemma given your reads, like Ydra as a partner to one of them, or me possibly having fake claimed due to pressure)
yeah but im really torn on my Ydra read one way or the other and your claim is just not gonna be touched until massclaim or some CC most likely