Micro 1089: the coalition, again [game over]

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:11 pm

I don't think brass is scum here

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:22 pm

Yeah i'm a little dubious abt how sheep's standing here kinda changed ngl

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:23 pm

Yes and i think he's being persuasive in an anti-town direction....

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:27 pm

In post 3139, Thestatusquo wrote: I'm starting to think it's more likely that skitter is scum than Tris.

I mean it makes sense that you're going here

skitter30 · Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:27 pm

In post 3141, Thestatusquo wrote: She's still talking to me like she thinks I'm town the whole time which is very different from how she talked to me early day 1 when we were disagreeing. Like drastically different.

I do not think ur town

skitter30 · Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:34 am

In post 3145, fireisredsir wrote: skitter it feels like you scumread shea and sheep and isis and me which of those is wrong

you and isis i think rn

skitter30 · Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:35 am

In post 3169, Thestatusquo wrote: It feels like kind of substantively different from Isis defending Tris where she was originally like my read on Tris is melting and then she's like Im not interested in voting Tris today and then it's like I think it's you actually and the progression is just really weird.

the townread on tris herself is weakening
but the way she's being wagoned makes me think it's unlikely she's scum

both of these things can be true at the same time

skitter30 · Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:38 am

In post 3210, hellbooks wrote:
In post 50, skitter30 wrote: HEAL: isis

hellbooks i promsie not to misread u this time
"And in order to achieve this i will refrain from reading your posts at all" (sorry) (joke)

i have a very hard time parsing your posts for some reason

skitter30 · Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:39 am

that's probably why i misflipped u last time

skitter30 · Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:42 am

i think tris is a misflip here and can't (won't) support it
the read was weakening but i don't think shea's case is good, and i don't think that he's actually attributing anything scum-indicative to her. has she been anti-town? sure. anti-town != scum tho and i'm a little baffled that this is where he thinks scum is most likely in the coalition

i think that this is a scummy push and don't like it

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:39 pm

i think it's dead b/c of me, sorry
i've been dealing with some irl stuff and my mind hasn't really been here >.>

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:39 pm

In post 3233, Aristeia wrote:
In post 3229, skitter30 wrote: but the way she's being wagoned makes me think it's unlikely she's scum
can you expand on this thought? wdym by the way she's being wagoned?

also uh why aren't you voting for anyone?

like everyone wants to flip her
and i don't know honestly

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:40 pm

In post 3240, Isis wrote: The weird thing about skitter's position is that if we misflip her and deadsheep her we're not in a bad spot so the fear is kinda low when she says shea has an evil with only like 2 possible partners

i mean would you lot going to deadsheep me after?

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:42 pm

In post 3250, fireisredsir wrote: 2 days left

probably prefer a tris yeet

partly bc i don't think i care about skitter's read there since it's a gamestate one based on suspicion of the sheepshea team which i dont really agree on

it's a possible world where that's just a town skitter misreading tris. there are notes of the stubbornness there

it's also possible it's a scum skitter white knighting tris. i guess an argument for this would be that she isn't really pushing much for eliminating the people she thinks are scum so she's kinda doing the willy wonka "nooo don't elim trissss" thing where she doesn't actually really care that much

i might be convinced by that argument actually idk

i mean i could be misreading her but i don't think i am

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:43 pm

In post 3254, Aristeia wrote: i dont think she even townreads tris tho

enuf that i don't think this is right

skitter30 · Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:43 pm

In post 3270, Isis wrote: I'm like 51-49 it's skitter. If it's wrong you can lim me the next day.

>.>

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:42 am

i think sheep's scum here, most likely with someone in the coalition
or brass but i don't think brass is scum

if i get flipped here, i want you lot to do sheep next, and then if scum {shea/ari}; on review i'm more sure of this being scum than shea tbh
if town than shea -> ari -> tris

i think i townread him the least out of everyone in the coalition, and i think him egging on the coalition ending means that there was scum in the coalition already. who exactly i don't know, but his behavior only makes to me that way. i don't know why he's voting tris here, and generally not sure how much his reads make sense to me

VOTE: sheep

(i'm acknowledging that multiple people have said my play is puzzling etc; i'm choosing to ignore it as it's nai/irl and i don't particularly care to discuss it in game)

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:50 pm

In post 3365, fireisredsir wrote: i was going to question skitter on her worldview but then i thought about the answer to my question and i realized her worldview actually does make sense to me

more than i initially thought at least

i mean what was the question

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:50 pm

In post 3366, Isis wrote: Skitter would you vote sheep even with Isis

i'm circling back to town-you again, i thought i said that

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:51 pm

i ... actually don't think fire is weird on this page
and think he looks better in the last couple of pages

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:51 pm

In post 3367, fireisredsir wrote: skitter vs tris as leading wagons was decidedly boring maybe it will be more interesting if its skitter vs sheep wagons

i think i probably prefer this ngl

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:52 pm

also fwiw i'm a little bit questioning my ari townread

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:22 pm

she didn't seem like she was trying to get into the coalition and with most partners i think she tries to
but idk who scum in the coalition is rn so it's weakening

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:42 pm

r u talking abt ari or isis, i thought u were asking abt my ari townread

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:08 pm

huh
for isis i think it's more partner-dependant tbh, and there's some cases where she lets her partner go into the coalition instead (ari, for example)

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:13 pm

i'm still a little confused how/why you're brining isis in to this convo - this is an ari-specific read, and applies less to other people (i'm p sure i discussed this already)

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:44 pm

In post 3387, Isis wrote: I tried really hard to get into the coalition I wasn't sure my partner would make it in this is so invalidatinggg

You didnt really try that hard

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:45 pm

In post 3388, Isis wrote: Paranoid skitter is benefitting from the lull in the game when she's consensus scum and triskitter is cornered. But if it's triskitter exactly we would get the comeback

I bus her and coast on the cred like six thousand years ago if i'm scum with tris

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:58 pm

In post 3399, Isis wrote: I will vote sheep if you say "BUS AND PLAY SOLO" in a meme voice
I mean it

>meme voice
BUS AND PLAY SOLO
> end meme voice

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:58 pm

In post 3400, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 3398, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3388, Isis wrote: Paranoid skitter is benefitting from the lull in the game when she's consensus scum and triskitter is cornered. But if it's triskitter exactly we would get the comeback
I bus her and coast on the cred like six thousand years ago if i'm scum with tris
I've made this post 1000 times.

As scum.

That's nice.
That's what i do here
I don't leave an ugly mess to deal with the next day if it looks like my partner is going down

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:04 pm

I tend to get annoyed when people accuse me of bad play, regardless of my alignment

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:06 pm

Getting a winning coalition - yes
Solving for scum now - no

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:10 pm

Tris how do u feel abt voting sheel

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:10 pm

*sheep ugh

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:11 pm

Excellent question, let's ask the forum at large

Pedit i would quite like it, yes

skitter30 · Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:31 pm

Indeed

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:08 am

Ok i didnt realize how close we were to deadline
I would vastly prefer sheep here

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:53 am

B/c i think ur most likely scum in the coalition and i'm not voting the othwr two options

(With the caveat that i would vote tris over me to ensure a flip at deadline but i would not be Happy abt it. And i don't think i need to just yet)

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:56 am

In post 3432, sheepsaysmeep wrote: Ye I meant like can u explain why I’m scummy or is it mainly just poe

Some element of poe / least townie in the coalition
Not really following your reads + progression
Your behavior right before the coalition makes a ton of sense if you knew scum were a shoo-in

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:56 am

In post 3436, Thestatusquo wrote: I'm switch to Tris if people prefer but I prefer skitter. I'm not voting sheep.

Pointint out how this supports my shea/sheep theory, etc

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:47 am

In post 3455, Isis wrote: VOTE: skitter

Go back to sheep plz >.>

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:47 am

Wagonomics says tris is town, and it's a v valuable tool imo

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:48 am

Indeed

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:52 am

In post 3482, Aristeia wrote: bus and coast on the credit

Nah scum-me lost the chance for that abt five days ago

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:53 am

Anyways i gotta work and idk how much i'l be here before deadline

If i flip plz do sheep
If he's scum follow with shea - ari
If he's town i probably actually say ari -> shea -> tris

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:57 am

In post 3488, Isis wrote: Skitter you did not download the gamefaqs guide for pocketing me in micro 1089

Apparently not

skitter30 · Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:57 am

In post 3489, Isis wrote: I did really enjoy the memepost but if I'm worried youre scum I have to play to wincon even if it means welching on in-game dealz fascinating ethics

I be town >.>

skitter30 · Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:04 am

<3 hellbooks i admire ur valient efforts to carry this to the end

skitter30 · Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:05 am

In post 4827, fireisredsir wrote: and like the timing does make sense i think. she's noticing the trend of things and is gathering more townreads while hellbooks is starting to lose the initial ones she had. the hades and persephone metaphor is maybe more apt for the way in which hellbooks was down in the trenches of getting viberead which is a pretty quick burst of towniness that eventually fades, while skitter stuck to the other side of the game in the more analytical stuff, not forcing anything too hard, which will probably get her more and more townread over time

and then at a certain point somewhere in the middle hellbooks is happy to tag out and let skitter take her place in the coalition as they high five when they meet at the intersecting point of their oppositely sloped trajectories in thread consensus view

Fire this is basically exactly what happened