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You saying it like i am good d2-4 elim. bruhIn post 55, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Enchant is rarely a good d1 lim. I don’t see why he’s scummy?
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Ah i seeIn post 72, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:
Hydra of Radical Rat and Nancy Drew 39, you know us!In post 66, Enchant wrote:who are those people who know me but i don't know them
I thought I had our sig set to show that, I'll fix it after work
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VIOLENCEIn post 108, imaginality wrote:
Punched?In post 106, Enchant wrote:Meg probably should be punched as wellWizard-Mercenary
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I can answer instead.
This rule triggered when faction wiped out. Ergo, instantly (so if we kill SK today, mafia will kill at night)
Either way, i know personally Nancy and Radical Rat too well to know that they never read setups (less about RR though). I think they genuine believe in words they say.
Let me put it in this way though:
We want to hit ATLEAST NOT TOWN. If we have choice between Mafia and SK (and we don't really have choice), it's always preferable to kill Mafia instead, so scum still can crosskill. But we will not have choice most likely.Wizard-Mercenary
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and point of your post?In post 142, Galron wrote: Testarossa's post was completely NAI.
Like you see person thinking like you and only thing you saying "uh well it's too easy, try harder?"Wizard-Mercenary
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i am cuteIn post 218, Gypyx wrote: i'm also actually wondering why Enchant is given a pass by so many peoplesWizard-Mercenary
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whyIn post 233, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:
If Meg is a Galron buddy making this post, I’d be seriously impressed because you very rarely see scum just straight up admit to that.In post 230, MegAzumarill wrote:I mean I was genuinely playing to avoid a Galron lim and the only difference there between scum! and town me there is probably motivationWizard-Mercenary
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What you else expected?In post 238, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:
Because she’s straight up admitting to wanting to save Galron which is not something you typically see from a buddy.In post 234, Enchant wrote:
whyIn post 233, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:
If Meg is a Galron buddy making this post, I’d be seriously impressed because you very rarely see scum just straight up admit to that.In post 230, MegAzumarill wrote:I mean I was genuinely playing to avoid a Galron limand the only difference there between scum! and town me there is probably motivation
"Oh i didn't meant that whops sorry"?
NAI at best.Wizard-Mercenary
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Imagine rolling SK and not playing.In post 261, Testarossa wrote:I am mostly scumreading Kop here while my only doubts about that slot come from N_M's short interaction with Galron, which looks kind of weird. Kop is way too defensive imo.
How do you distinguish between N_Mtown and N_Mscum?
NM simple not dick enough to annoy teammate with this opening. Regardless what you want to say, NM knows how to play.
So yeah, i can assure. Like, with 80% chance sure.Wizard-Mercenary
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Okay, i explain.In post 307, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:
No, absolutely not, that’s a terrible idea!In post 304, Enchant wrote:Can Cop claim already?
Cop should only claim in the event of an actual result. Wtf are you even thinking with this? *smdh*
1. We are in MYLO. If we elim town, we lose in case SK attacking town. And SK will not attack mafia, because see down.
2. I don't want to teach scum, but they probably realise this anyway.
Mafia in most situtations attacked SK (unless mafia didn't apply action at all somehow), because I don't see any logical point to skip kill. Therefore, SK picked bulletproof, and can be catched via Cop. Now question: Will SK hunt mafia, just to lose to Cop with 2-3 checks at 4 people day? Selfanswering.
3. Day will turn in shitfest anyway.
If we push VT today, he will claim so. We either elim him to lose, or keep alive. Which again gives tip where Cop sits.
If we push scum, it depends, (considering i post this), either VT or Cop (to start 1vs1 shitfest with CC of Cop).
If we push Cop OR Cop innocent check, Cop will be forced to claim. Afterwards, scum counterclaim him. 1vs1 again.
In most outcomes, if Cop doesn't claim, it turns in 1vs1 between Cop and scum anyway. And most likely, with big chunk of deadline wasted.
It's so fun to deduce real Cop at last 2 days,right?
Nevermind that if SOMEHOW we elim scum without cop claiming, remaining scum plainly can try to kill him and we receive nothing if success.
So it's not worth it hiding.
Now about results:
Cop checked 2 people. He knows HALF of living players alignments. It's just enough to win almost instantly.
Unless he checked Imaginality n1. Then... Well. 1 check still check.
I don't believe in checked Kop, as there's no one protecting him. So therefore there must be one living check.
So.
Do you still think it's terrible idea and massclaim should't happen?Wizard-Mercenary
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How they are killed?In post 316, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Either they lose the 1v1, or real Cop flips and they get killed the next day.Wizard-Mercenary
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If it's 2 town, 2 scum, then we lose if we vote out scum. Other plainly shots town to win.
It's kingmaker. And we can't just "no lim" and hope they shot each other, because they won't. But i don't give more insight on it, because in this case we lost anyway.
If it's 3 town/1 scum, we still have 1-2 checks living. Again, scum will avoid this situation, as it gives them too little chances.
And it's winnable. Very easily.
I don't understand what you trying to sell me, but i can assure, i thought about everything before speaking, and it's fucking infuriating you don't learn on mistakes.Wizard-Mercenary
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I want to add, i never claimed to be good player (unless for meme), but i believe Cop claiming will help us (and i already provided reasonings why) win.
If you call me better player, yet sceptically examine everything i say, then ammount of worth you put in your words are zero.Wizard-Mercenary
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You yourself say that scum will not CC cop (DUE IT BEING INSTADEATH/BANKING ON KINGMAKER). So it will result in Cop being confirmed innocent. With checks being also innocent. IT LITERALLY CONFIRMS HALF OF GAME AS TOWN, LEAVING US WITH 4-3 OPTIONS WHERE ALL SCUM HIDE.39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Cop will claim when it is relevant. To do so sooner is gamethrowing.
Instead, let's risk so... We get something. What exactly, another check? No point lol, if we elim scum, another scum will just aim at Cop at night, and if fail, open with Cop claim and it STILL will be 1vs1 bullshit idiocy. So literally... Nothing changes. Literally nothing. Except that we could had avoided it at first place.
Fuck this idiocy, i am not in mood.
I can't force you sadly.
I am off, i am playing other games. Will think who i want to vote today.
Don't fucking care.Wizard-Mercenary
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I asked for real Cop, not obvsscum.In post 334, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:
Careful what you wish forIn post 304, Enchant wrote:Can Cop claim already?
I even can't say how pissed i am, because i just got warning from mods and i don't want to tempt fate.Wizard-Mercenary
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Wait... Really.
Well. There's nothing i could had done. I am lost.
I desire to REVENGE on mafia though for shooting me. If you vote no-lim, i kill someone you desire and let Gypix check someone else. This way i piss off mafia and you effortlessly win.
If you kill me now, mafia plainly shots Gypix and you are in MYLO with 3 unknowns.
Your choice basically.
Also, asking Cop to claim is genuine good plan i suggested. I am really sad that you called me scum for this.Wizard-Mercenary
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Ha-ha-ha.In post 341, MegAzumarill wrote:But also it's like
A very unfair move to make against mafia here who are otherwise positioned to win which doesn't feel good
Exactly! Who need morale though.Wizard-Mercenary
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Hilariously, i had Rats as townread, before this day.
Afterwards there was slip that Rats knew i am exactly SK (message "you want to reveal Cop and kill him" are kinda aimed at one side) and starting pushing me for plan which completely makes sense
I don't know if i am right or wrong.Wizard-Mercenary
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Well, depends.
So anyway:
No lim, 6 ppl
I kill someone, Gypix check someone. 5 ppls.
If game doesn't end, Gypix either swopps mafia with guilty, or will get another inno and will know all alignments in game, which also autowin game.
So yeah, if i was you, i would take this offer. Without thinking actually.Wizard-Mercenary
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I actually respect that.In post 382, Testarossa wrote:I think my hesitance comes from it feeling like foul sportmanship towards the other scum. Although this may just come because I have been in the same shoes once and I just raged passionately from D1 till elo about a townsiding SK in the Mafia chat.
Idk about townsiding SK from first day, i guess if they were discovered, they really didn't had other choice, but be leashed. I negatively think about SK who claims for no reason and helps town, unless there's some insane 999IQ strat.
In my case, i could just go and die, possible letting mafia win. Except that I don't want to. I had plan to win in every scenario, but i never imagined mafia will be out of their way to attack me. ATTACK ME. Did i look like cop so much? I don't think so.
This screwed me over in that way, that i couldn't win regardless what i do. There's pit in every way i choose. When i say i thinked about every scenario, i didn't lie. So i drag them in hell with me.
Depending on morale, you disagree or agree. Regardless, that's what i do. If you want to give mafia fighting chance, i will understand that... But fairly, i would just take cheap win on your place. Yep.Wizard-Mercenary
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AndIn post 386, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:You could be either Mafia or SK. All we know for sure is you’re scum.Wizard-Mercenary
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I know i promised last post, but... WellIn post 396, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote: I DO think that Enchant's scheme is the most boring and unfun way possible to achieve that victory.
If you really-really wish to give mafia "Honest" fighting chance (which i don't understand), then you can give it to me as well (strange plea, i know, but continue reading pls).
You already know, Gypix are innocent and Testarossa is check, therefore also innocent.
You also know i am SK. Well i know i am SK, you just know i am evil.
Nothing of it changes ot Elo, if you kill me right now. Same situation.
So mafia (well i know mafia) hides in 39 Rats in a Trench Coat/MegAzumarill/ceejayvinoya.
So... Go ahead, try to hunt mafia today. If you failed, you as well would had failed next day after killing me (because you would had exact same info in elo, as you have now), and mafia would had won. Except right now, if you fail, mafia doesh't win, we just go in kingmaker. In which i have chance as well (not big one).
And if you success, well. Where i hide?
So, why don't you if you wish interesting gameplay? Hypocrite much? Or i am less deserving this sportsmanship? If so, then why?Wizard-Mercenary
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They wait before Gypix/You decide who i should kill.In post 408, Testarossa wrote:Somehow I am insecure what people are waiting for.
But Gypix being Gypix, it takes hilariously long, so maybe you bother?Wizard-Mercenary
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You claiming it's unfun and boring. I told how make it "interesting".
I don't need to explain anything. I am not town, can afford, and basically you need my help which i offering. Also, there's high chance you won't realise even if i do, considering how you fighted against (again winning one) plan with Cop revealing.
Again, take or leave it. I will die regardless. But i will roast you if you somehow manage to lose to maf postgame, because you threw your instawin for lose. And i am not even lying!
You probably think i do, as chaos acolyte. But neat thing: I don't lie this time. And you will think i do lie.
Hilarious.Wizard-Mercenary
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Additionally i can also just kill Gypix anyway, and say "haha i lied", even if i am SK. Because i have nothing to lose.
But would i? I am kinda motivated to screw other scum out.
Even if you don't want cheap win or "risk my chaos", how about eliming mafia first, so if you fail (you prob fail), i can win instead of maf in kingmaker? You have same info. Even Gypix alive.. to help you. Damn, I can't say these things not sarcastic.
I mean, i die, then gypix die. And you received no new info. So, why don't try now?
Who you would call maf today for example?Wizard-Mercenary
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kkIn post 420, Testarossa wrote:Enchant kills MegWizard-Mercenary
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Even in altuniverse where i am mafia, i will lose without variants.
Next day will be 3 town vs 2 scum, with me still being outed. What i do next? Die.
I can only win, if you elim town earlier than me. Somehow. While i am outed. You need to delibately do it though (i already suggested how you can do it without gamethrowing much, but 16 hours is not kinda time to deduce maf so no chance).Wizard-Mercenary
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Because if you vote me, but fail to deduce mafia after i and Gypix die, mafia will win instantly and your elimination of me was worthless help to mafia.In post 429, 39 Rats in a Trench Coat wrote:Why as town would I vote someone other than you when you’re mech guiltied?
If you instead tried to kill mafia today, mafia will not instawin, but will be put at kingmaker with me, which everyone can win, including me.
So eliming me only ensures mafia win if you are wrong and does nothing to help your situation.
So yeah, that's kinda reason to not vote me. Not including my offer which guarantee town win of course.Wizard-Mercenary
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