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Hi Johnny. Are you a wolf? bark if yesIn post 23, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Hey it's Aus and Marci! Long time no see!No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I don't know why but when I read this post I got a strong feeling that you were scum like some sort of supernatural entity was trying to send me a message
(yes i'm being overdramatic allow it)
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am I scum for it?In post 30, Hiraki wrote:
Weird post.In post 27, Ausuka wrote:I don't know why but when I read this post I got a strong feeling that you were scum like some sort of supernatural entity was trying to send me a message
(yes i'm being overdramatic allow it)
VOTE: Juice
Might have been a Greek god but I'm not sure. Something classical I thinkIn post 31, Juice wrote: what sort of supernatural entity - need to know if im connected to a higher power
What do you mean by clownish? Also could u elaborate on the juice thought because I don't see it and am also not sure if you're townreading them for itIn post 36, marcistar wrote:I actually think Ausuka might be town, they're acting like the same amount of clowness as they did last game.
Aisa seems town rn so does the rat.
juice seems cocky.. self absorbed..? idk what the word im thinking of there is..No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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ok but what do u mean by clownish I want to knowIn post 44, marcistar wrote:
i don't have a read on juice im just saying they seem self absorbedIn post 43, marcistar wrote:In post 38, Ausuka wrote:What do you mean by clownish? Also could u elaborate on the juice thought because I don't see it and am also not sure if you're townreading them for it
r u saying ur not town bbNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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In post 34, Juice wrote:A third vote during RVS? Putting me at L-2 is pretty strange behaviour - certainly not very town orientated.
Don't really understand your thought process here - why unvote and why not vote Aisa if you don't think she's town orientated?In post 45, Juice wrote:
Putting anyone at L-2 - just for shits and giggles? Yeah okay then. UNVOTE:In post 42, MegAzumarill wrote:Is that not a pro-town thing?No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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that's vague as anything and you know itIn post 64, marcistar wrote:
yes, ausuka already knows what i mean shes just playing dumb.In post 62, Aisa wrote:Is there a reason you haven't replied to Ausuka, marci?
like literally "same clowness as last game" is so hard to understand apparentlyNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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why are you like thisIn post 66, marcistar wrote:
literally look at last game and ull figure it out sweetie xoxoIn post 65, Ausuka wrote:
that's vague as anything and you know itIn post 64, marcistar wrote:
yes, ausuka already knows what i mean shes just playing dumb.In post 62, Aisa wrote:Is there a reason you haven't replied to Ausuka, marci?
like literally "same clowness as last game" is so hard to understand apparentlyNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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i say that purely out of love <3
but still i have like 0 understanding of what you get from being this obstinate as either alignment. unless you're reaction testing or something but i would've hoped you learned from last time that making everything you do a reaction test just makes you impossible to understand or read?No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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you know, because scum know townies are town and are more likely to see towniness in their every action whereas town are often more PARANOID and SUSPICIOUS
i kind of townlean hiraki for that reason btw because like, I don't think calling everyone scummy without specifying is likely to get townread at all and i think calling me weird is like, something scum is less likely to do because they are generally more concerned with their image and doing so has very little benefit - i don't think he would make that post expecting to get townread for it, if that makes senseNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I think that line of reasoning makes some sense but not sure I agree yet - I remember from my metadive of her last game she does like getting into arguments for no reason as scum. Like, she does it as town too and I'm not scumreading her for that part of the interaction, but I can see scum!marci behaving this way - in particular I think coming off 'clean' and 'reasonable' which is a common scum strategy would be too far of a departure from her towngame to be believable.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Ok but I'm asking you to elaborate about the thoughts that made you think that, because I don't think I had given any substantial thoughts at that point. I don't think I'm being particularly unreasonable here.In post 76, marcistar wrote:
how hard is it to undersrand wtfIn post 70, Ausuka wrote:i'm asking you what made you feel that way considering i had barely posted anything up to that point and i am worried you are townreading me too easily?
you always tell me how much you suck right?
so then i see you form thoughts and word things here similar to how you did last game (clowning)
so then its townie vibes cuz similar?!??!?
I don't expect your read to be strong as either alignment - I'm questioning whether your thought process is genuine.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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In post 26, Ausuka wrote:
Hi Johnny. Are you a wolf? bark if yesIn post 23, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Hey it's Aus and Marci! Long time no see!
I'll try putting this in other words. Can you explain which of these posts made you feel that way? Because none of these posts contain anything substantial.In post 27, Ausuka wrote:I don't know why but when I read this post I got a strong feeling that you were scum like some sort of supernatural entity was trying to send me a message
(yes i'm being overdramatic allow it)
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I have read your post. You say my thoughts are similar to last game where I was town so I am more likely to be town here. I am suspicious of this because I don't think I've given any thoughts at this point, which means your reasoning doesn't make sense and is more likely to come from someone who already knows I'm town and doesn't really have to think about what I'm saying to get a read. Why am I wrong?No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I understand that this line of reasoning isn't bulletproof, but it's page 4. If early game statements were just let go because it's the early game and nothing is that thought out I think it'd be difficult to get the game started. I think there is reason to be suspicious of the thought process that led to Marci's statement, and I'd like her to answer the question.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I don't get how it's so hard for marcistar to wrap her head around "I know what you're saying and I want you to fucking elaborate because I don't think the grounds for a genuine read existed at that time"
This is a really annoying approach to take.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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In post 26, Ausuka wrote:
Hi Johnny. Are you a wolf? bark if yesIn post 23, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Hey it's Aus and Marci! Long time no see!
Do you really not see why I would question you townreading thisIn post 27, Ausuka wrote:I don't know why but when I read this post I got a strong feeling that you were scum like some sort of supernatural entity was trying to send me a message
(yes i'm being overdramatic allow it)
VOTE: Juice
This has no substantial similarity to my last game. I personally feel that I could fake these posts as scum with absolutely zero difficulty
There is nothing here. It looks like a TMI read.
Can I be wrong? Easily. If I am just elaborate on what it is here you found towny and quit the passive aggressive nonsense please.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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In post 79, marcistar wrote:okay?? ur literally quoting the post where I explain are u blind < 333In post 86, marcistar wrote:In post 98, marcistar wrote: I don't get how its so hard for Ausuka to wrap her head around what "thewaythe thoughts are formed and worded is townie" means.
I'm just gonna plain out keep not responding to Ausuka in an actual conclusive way since they wanna pretend that that game didn't have an early game!
???In post 102, marcistar wrote:how am i talking to you like that????No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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You didn't!! You said "oh how you construct thoughts felt similar to last game" and I'm saying "but there are no thoughts here and I certainly didn't do any construction of thoughts so how can that be a real thought you had" and you're just figuratively sticking your fingers in your ears.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Like you say "ausuka feels clownish like last game"
I ask you to elaborate and you just say
"Ausuka feels like last game" which is basically just a reiteration. That is not an explanation.
I want you to explain how you got that read from the zero actual content I had at that point.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I hope everything goes okay with your family Johnny and good luckIn post 96, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Hey y'all my 1 year old just had to get some emergency intestinal surgery, I'll be touch and go for a min.
Catching up nowNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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In post 110, marcistar wrote:literally stop being a clown i explained it alreadyNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Like when I said this had no substantial similarity to my last game
For those not in the know, our last game had me claim miller and Marci pushed me for it, I retaliated. That opening had a claim shortly followed by a push. I would say the openings are very different and that's part of the reason this whole situation is so baffling to meNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I'd be interested to hear more about this - what about the interaction seems SvS?In post 116, Juice wrote:Yeah this whole exchange does seem scum vs. scum on surface level - but if its just one scum in the interaction I wold suspect its marcistar. The whole last few posts just feels very forced.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Marcistar
I strongly disagree that what I was saying about marci isn't game related btw - although it is true a lot of the argument ended up being clutter because we kind of went around in circles, she was making a meta point and I think talking about the game she was referring to helps explain my perspective her read might have been TMI.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I hate to sound like a broken record but this doesn't really answer the question? Specifically what part of our interaction made you think thisIn post 126, Juice wrote:
Ive played mafia to know what scum vs. scum chats can possible be - and on Day 1, I am willing to to take more risks. If you were both scum - I would not be shockedIn post 122, Ausuka wrote:
I'd be interested to hear more about this - what about the interaction seems SvS?In post 116, Juice wrote:Yeah this whole exchange does seem scum vs. scum on surface level - but if its just one scum in the interaction I wold suspect its marcistar. The whole last few posts just feels very forced.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Marcistar
I strongly disagree that what I was saying about marci isn't game related btw - although it is true a lot of the argument ended up being clutter because we kind of went around in circles, she was making a meta point and I think talking about the game she was referring to helps explain my perspective her read might have been TMI.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I mean, I was asking a question and she repeatedly dodged it and started being hostile, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do in that situation.In post 125, Aisa wrote:I kind of got a similar SvS vibe and I think it's because both you and marci essentially brought up the same point repeatedly and neither of you seemed willing to relent. As far as arguments go I think that's one of the easier ways to fake them
In any case, I specifically asked Juice about this rather than, like Hikari or something because I wanted to hear it from xem and I'm a bit curious to why you would answer this question for xem when xe is your main suspect?No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Okay, so while I would love to eliminate marcistar purely out of spite, I'm not especially sure she's scum here. I hope she is and I'll be disappointed if she's not, but I don't necessarily think her behaviour here is out of her townrange. I still think her townread of me at the start was strange, and her refusal to elaborate beyond saying the same thing in different words infuriates me, but the fact she seems to be at E 1 without really any reasoning from anyone else on the wagon concerns me a lot. None of Hiraki, Herta or Juice feel like they have a towny push on Marci.
I think Juice's hop on the wagon looks really bad. Whether that makes xem scum I am uncertain but I would definitely like them to elaborate on xeir vote at the very least.
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Exactly. This is just the same thing as what Marci did so I guess I won't bother engaging further since most people got annoyed by me pressing that.In post 136, MegAzumarill wrote:They are asking what part of the posts make them feel forcedNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I think I want to vote for either Aisa or Herta but I am not sure which right now. Aisa I think feels the scummiest based on play; she does not feel particularly genuine, there's the thing I pointed out, I feel that the juice push is really easy and her approach towards xem feels unnecessarily passive I guess? Like, it feels like she's holding back and trying to appear super reasonable. I will have to check her past games to see how alignment indicative this actually is.
Herta's vote on Marci is the worst and while I don't think his play is like *that* scummy I think the jump on her is ?probably? More likely to come from scum than Hiraki and Juice and if I'm looking for scum on the Marci wagon I would start thereNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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yeah she does from a certain point of view, I think her play is geared towards seeming towny and pleasant and kind of blending in a bit and that feels scummy to me.In post 140, marcistar wrote:
ur wrong aisa seems townyIn post 138, Ausuka wrote:Aisa I think feels the scummiest based on play;No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Ok? I think she would be capable of her play towards me as town and have said as muchIn post 147, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I literally won last game as scum in part because people don't trust Marci for playing like this.
Aussie you were there.
Maybe I'm just too idiotic to see it but I don't think so at all.In post 148, marcistar wrote:
I think you're letting your mind wander too much that its over complicating things.In post 141, Ausuka wrote:
yeah she does from a certain point of view, I think her play is geared towards seeming towny and pleasant and kind of blending in a bit and that feels scummy to me.In post 140, marcistar wrote:
ur wrong aisa seems townyIn post 138, Ausuka wrote:Aisa I think feels the scummiest based on play;No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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?????????In post 162, Juice wrote:the fact that Ausuka and Marci are being given a pass is just hilariousNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Will respond to the rest later butIn post 176, Hiraki wrote:Yeah, this whole "It's not me guys!!! It's Ausuka!" when literally no one agrees with this take either means marci is VI or scum with Ausuka. I really think it should overall be ignored today (I don't really buy Ausuka's point either) but I don't think it should be forgotten.
Spoiler:
This is a lovely interaction I had with Marci in ELO in our last game together when she was town. I think it's reasonable to believe that her behaviour here is within her townrange.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I'm aware. I thought the way xe immediately kind of parroted your point and used it to jump on Marci looked bad so I was hoping to force xem to give their individual thoughts on her.Hiraki wrote:Just to be clear, Juice is referring to my post.
I agree that my playstyle isn't the most charismatic, but I don't think my reads are accurate enough that convincing people of them should be the priority. This is kind of my natural writing style (when it comes to the kind-of-debatey format of mafia at least) so writing like this basically allows me to present my thoughts the most genuine way I can. I find I tend to get universally townread a lot when I play like this, which takes me out of the limpool and helps town even if my reads aren't great. I would be open to more feedback about this postgame though.Hiraki wrote:I also think that Ausuka's playstyle is just more detail and very structure oriented. I used to have a phase like this earlier but it makes super giant walls that can get very confusing overall versus fast speedy points (both for town and scumplay).
I mean, I didn't say I like details a lot, that was your characterisation of my play. I didn't think giving a lot of detail was necessary there, but I'll elaborate here. Herta's jump on Marci felt convenient and like he was trying to give the bare minimum explanation? I can't explain it that well but I didn't like it. Your vote was leftover from RVS and you didn't really explain much why you thought Marci was scum - I still townlean on you overall but I think I'm right that it wasn't a towny push on your part. Juice's jump on Marci, like Herta, was convenient and seemed a bit shallow, but the vote putting her at E-1 made it so blatantly suspicious, that I thought it was less scummy than Herta's overall.Hiraki wrote:For someone who likes details, you really don't like to give them yourself. I also feel like this entire post is a really weird retraction of something that you actually had a valid point on (regardless of the fact that I disagree with where the point is going). Note that in my original post I said that SvS was a reach and Ausuka is giving some major OMGUS vibes.
Also, I'm not retracting my original point. There are three things that play into my changing the topic;
1) people are calling me out as if I'm as bad as Marci just because I kept trying to get her to answer the question, and fired back when she started insulting me. Given this, I do not think pressing her further is going to be productive, and is just going to make me get frustrated.
2) I honestly just want to talk about other things. This is context I wouldn't expect anyone else to know, but we are friends and I like Marci as a person so her calling me idiotic feels hurtful. I want to say she wouldn't do it as town but I also want to say she wouldn't press on my insecurities as a scum strategy. I know from last game she can do trolling as town, but I just do not want to deal with her right now. I also just do not think engaging her will be productive at all. I am not going to just give her a pass for the rest of the day but I'd rather talk to and about other people. We have plenty of time.
3) There are other people I want to talk about. Last game Marci behaved like this and was town, as I said. I don't want her antics to monopolise the attention and I think it's worth pursuing suspects outside of her. If Marci and Juice are both town placing a "please eliminate me" stickers on their backs, and we focus on their blatantly scummy behaviour, we are going to be in a very bad place.
Uh, no it doesn't. I can call out a vote that I see as bad without assuming the person being voted is town. Even disregarding that everyone is more likely than not to be town at this stage regardless of my read on them, scum vote each other literally all the time.Hiraki wrote:This post is the worst because it's almost assuming that Marci is town. I think Marci is absolutely the best flip for today for information at the very least.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Uh, she called me a coward and a snake in that game. I think that's insult throwing.In post 189, Hiraki wrote:There is a pretty clear difference in tone and insult throwing here.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Why did you decide to do this reaction test? What were you hoping to get out of it, what reads have you gotten out of it?In post 182, Juice wrote:I think my rxn test went very well though - lots of juicy protein
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I mean, I believe you when you say this, but it feels suspicious to me. Like, you've been voting Juice since pretty early and seemed like you were trying to apply pressure on xem earlier, so your passive suspicion towards xem already felt kind of weird. The fact that you went into the post seemingly without the mindset that Juice is your main suspect makes you feel like scum that doesn't really care.In post 179, Aisa wrote:It was all part of the same stream of consciousness. As in "ooh the SvS thought kinda makes sense but there are these other things I dislike". The part of my mind that resolves contradictions in my writing just went on annual leave for a while because it's been working overtime and really deserves a spa retreat :3
I hope you get that spa retreat though!No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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i would like that, yesIn post 194, marcistar wrote:if it actually hurts you ill stop asuskaNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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No, I don't feel the same way about the Juice wagon really. I'm not immensely keen on getting into detail on this because I don't think it would accomplish much and would be time consuming but I guess I could if you really wanted.Hiraki wrote:Do you not see the irony in saying this and looking at the Juice wagon - which actually got to E-1 - but you have not made the same point about that?
Hiraki wrote: actually agree with you that Herta's change is a little strange to me but it's not at all 'convenient'. It's the second vote on the wagon after Herta already asks a question
I disagree - if Marci is town, she is self immolating and voting her for frustration seems like a very surface level way to make the easiest push in the game. If Marci is scum, I agree another word would be better, but it still doesn't feel like real sorting and I'm not sure how much the word use matters.
Sure it's not necessary. That doesn't change my point that I feel kind of uncomfortable with the Marci wagon getting to that point and staying there with the reasoning given though.Hiraki wrote:Do people need to explain their votes? Maybe this goes into a little bit of theory but I don't think you need to explain a vote until you actually want support on it.
I disagree. I think scum vote each other when they very much do not need to and there is no immediate benefit, based on my past experiences in mafia games. I'm not accusing anyone of being the scumteam or specifically bussing - what I am trying to say is that it's pretty much impossible to make these kinds of calls on day 1 and I am going to evaluate people's play individually rather than saying something like "oh, Marci could be scum, so I'm not going to look for potential scum on the Marci wagon"Hiraki wrote:This isn't really addressing the actual topic on hand here. If you call out the wagon but you think the person is still scum, you think that scum is joining a scum wagon on Day 1 to gain credit. That's a really weird buss to make before the 10th page. Saying 'scum vote each other literally all the time' is correct but they don't do it for nothing - which is something that you're accusing almost every person in your explanation above of doing.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I said I was going to look into Aisa's past games. I did, but so many of them were from years ago that I don't think it's particularly useful.
I think this is the scummiest thing in the game so far. What does "xyr tone would benefit from further investigation" really even mean? It also feels like unnaturally hedgey. Instead of just like, pressuring Juice, or really make the case that ye is scum here, she's really emphasising the weakness of the read. It feels like she's trying to appear super reasonable and stay under the radar more than solve the game. I guess a good way to put it is that she's more focused on looking like she's sorting Juice than actually sorting Juice here.In post 125, Aisa wrote:I think Juice warrants looking into more if nothing else. I'm not confident at all xe is scum but I think the way xe seems slightly selective with what xe responds to, and xyr tone would benefit from further investigation, so consider my vote there a serious one now.
I also feel that answering a question on Juice's behalf is scummy for her because I would expect town Aisa to want to hear the elaboration xe gives. I don't think she's really writing her posts with the aim to sort Juice or anybody else, if that makes sense.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Not particularly? I'm not suspicious the quantity of your posting but the content of it - I'm not doubting you weren't around and I don't expect players to be super active, but I don't think that really changes the motives I see in your posting if that makes sense.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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This seems worth clarifying. My point wasn't that Juice is an easy push so only scum would push xem. Juice has been pretty blatantly scummy and I think almost everyone has expressed at least some level of suspicion there. My point was because Juice is limbait if town, it makes the hedgey sort-of-push look worse; because everyone is sus of xem it looks more like you're blending in to me.In post 217, Aisa wrote:- You said the Juice push was really easy and then proceeded to vote xem yourself. In fact now that I reread it you had already sussed Juice at the timeNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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This is probably because certain players in the game are roleplaying as naughty studentsIn post 260, marcistar wrote:megs just doing this thing where they're roleplaying a teacher.No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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