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Post #907 (isolation #200) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:42 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Ugh.
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Post #908 (isolation #201) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:43 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Sry but whenever i see mafia players be like: "but why i do i need to make an decision?" i start to get really annoyed.
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Post #910 (isolation #202) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:51 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Like what r u even doing here if you aren’t gonna do shit.
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Post #911 (isolation #203) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:57 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
That was referring to S_S for not voting btw.
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want to give him a last chance to redeem himself then im out of this shit show
Damn Pooky, who defecated in ur cereal today.
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Post #923 (isolation #205) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:45 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
That's not very supportive is it.
Don't self-hammer if you are town... please?
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Post #926 (isolation #206) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:15 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
In post 924, Tracer Bullet wrote:I'm not really willing to bet the entire game that Toogeloo flips mafia here.
I think there's a decent chance town are death tunneling me for shit reasons so this game is never going to be winnable as long as I'm alive.
and I'd rather die here than be a walking mislim at elo
I think you're just justifying your own exit from the game rather than seriously arguing self-hammering as town will be in favour of towns wincon.
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Post #927 (isolation #207) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:15 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Why do you now think Toog is town?
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Picking a side forces you to make a commitment and that commitment in turn associates you with others. That's valuable information down the road even if it may not be in the immediate future.
Also UNVOTE:
No self-hammering please, especially not before Smart commits to a decision here.
I think if Tracer was scum he would have just hammered himself instantly if he really meant it. The options are that either he is just town or he is scum that is AtEing hard to stay alive.
I'm leaning towards the first option being more likely.
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Post #932 (isolation #209) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:21 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
RCE and Wall have both fallen off a bit recently, and they are not slots i traditionally view as doing that if they were town here.
Where you two at right now?
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Post #933 (isolation #210) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:22 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Well this is the first time i played with Wall, but y'all get what i mean. They were active at start, now not anymore.
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In post 899, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’ve thought this over and although i’m neither confident on Toog or Tracer, i’m leaning voting Toog for the simple fact that i think town!Tracer is more valuable to keep in the game than an eventual town!Toogelo. So if worst case scenario and Toog does flip town i’d take that over flipping town!Tracer.
This also presents an interesting dilemma for players currently not voting. It’ll be 3v3 wagons. VOTE: Toogeloo
I hated this post because town!me is not going to be very useful tomm if someone town votes me so i dunt even understand this
I townread you so i don't see why it's a good idea for you to get elimmed at any point. I also don't see why you think it's inevitable you get voted tommorow, there is no logic behind that thinking.
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Post #939 (isolation #212) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:27 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I think you are missing out on a vital point in your thinking, but if i explain it it will be made too obvious for the mafia team and so lose it's meaning.
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Post #941 (isolation #213) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:28 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Anyway i'm not voting you today.
Who is the most likely to flip scum right now in your opinion.
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Post #942 (isolation #214) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:29 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
In post 940, Tracer Bullet wrote:like your mindset feels like "if this is tvt then we should kill tooge cuz town tracer is better"
like thats just mindboggling to me
if this is tvt we shouldnt kill either of us
I think you're misrepresenting me a bit, i'm describing why "worst case scenario" of voting Toog is better than "worst case scenario" of voting you because i view you as an more active and solvey town player.
If you disagree with this and think Toogeloo would be an stronger town player than you then by all mean debate me on that.
But in the end, i'm voting Toog because i believe there is a chance they are mafia. Otherwise i obviously would not vote there.
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Post #944 (isolation #215) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:31 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
If i was scum i would have just voted you earlier.
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Post #947 (isolation #216) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:32 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I probably would enjoy that. True.
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Post #949 (isolation #217) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:33 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Magical vibe reading
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Post #950 (isolation #218) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:36 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
In post 943, Tracer Bullet wrote:I don't see why Wallflower would push me this hard if this is a TvT conflict
I don't get this btw.
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In post 943, Tracer Bullet wrote:I don't see why Wallflower would push me this hard if this is a TvT conflict
I don't get this btw.
if me/tooge r tvt, mafia dont have a reason to be invested in which of us dies
If i was scum here and could choose to vote you out over Toog i would do it.
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Post #956 (isolation #220) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:05 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
In post 954, Ircher wrote:No, I don't think it's the foregone conclusion you are making it out to be. There will be plenty of time for discussion and reconsideration.
Precisely.
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Post #957 (isolation #221) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:11 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Seriously Tracer, is all u gonna do at end of today cry about the possibility of being mislimmed tommorow if we lim town.
That's... dumb.
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In post 957, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Seriously Tracer, is all u gonna do at end of today cry about the possibility of being mislimmed tommorow if we lim town.
That's... dumb.
I am not crying
I am assessing the risk profile and making a rational play to increase our EV
I was assuming you were being emotional and thus decreasing your own logical capability.
The fact that you apparently thought about it logically is weird to me.
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In post 957, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Seriously Tracer, is all u gonna do at end of today cry about the possibility of being mislimmed tommorow if we lim town.
That's... dumb.
I am not crying
I am assessing the risk profile and making a rational play to increase our EV
I was assuming you were being emotional and thus decreasing your own logical capability.
The fact that you apparently thought about it logically is weird to me.
I don't get emotional about games that I don't feel connected to.
Well i'm sorry about that.
I'm having fun though.
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Post #966 (isolation #224) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:19 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
If Tracer town i feel it makes Wall pretty sus, because all they done today is be like "Vote Tracer, everything will make sense once you do "
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Post #967 (isolation #225) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:20 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I'm still ok with voting Toog tho tbh.
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Post #969 (isolation #226) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:31 pm
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I don't really see this as TvT at all. Assuming town!you i really want to kill Toog here.
Also Tracer, i sincerely hope you aren't talking yourself into thinking i'm scum after everything i've done in this game, cus i'm not.
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Post #971 (isolation #227) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:33 pm
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I think i'm better as a serial killer or arsonist. But they aren't in the game so we good.
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Post #973 (isolation #228) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:55 pm
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
It’s an entirely different mentality.
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Post #974 (isolation #229) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:56 pm
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Not that i meant what i said as a great point, but SK can scum hunt for real and doesn’t need to think about partner so big diff.
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Post #975 (isolation #230) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:08 pm
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
So where u at right now? I thought we were on the same page with our reads but i guess you just started scumreading me for… defending you? Really?
Like i’m trying to understand your mindset. So you think i am scum and decided to not vote you but instead Toog because i wanted to pocket you for later and my townread on you is fake because you don’t trust town!me to have good gut reads. Is that it?
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Post #976 (isolation #231) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:11 pm
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I think it’s vital to argue about these sorts of things early be4 deadline makes things hectic.
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Post #978 (isolation #232) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:26 pm
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Everyone is in such a bad mood today.
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Post #979 (isolation #233) » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:32 pm
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I like that you are thinking outside of the box though Toog.
Now you’re thinking with portals!
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Post #1019 (isolation #234) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:36 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
In post 1011, Tracer Bullet wrote:Norwe has been defending me for two days now and I'm not actually sure Town!Him defends me this hard because I have absolutely rekt him as scum in multiple games and I'm not sure he can reliably townread me to the point of hard defending me.
I feel like he's using me as a sort of shield - like as long as town votes are stuck on me [Ircher, Duckie, Wallflower] those votes aren't going to be going elsewhere you keep a shield alive because it attracts attention and keeps people from voting you or your partner - if your shield ever gets yeeted, you look good for having hard defended Tracer!town and you gain thread clout/control.
Pretty sure if i point to previous scum games i've had you'll see that i as scum prefer to just kill anyone that's E-1. Like my play isn't as big brain as you are suggesting. Where i'm like "Ah yes, i'll pull the extremely risky move of trying to pocket "Player that i view as a threat to me, whom i know is capable of turning their reads around for miniscule reasons and is thus therefore a much better player to just kill if given the opportunity" so i can in the next day... idk, keep them around for no reason? Instead of propagating a gamestate with much simpler players to have around that i can much more easily manipulate?
Like ur view of my play is completely incompitable with how i actually play. Which i'm wondering is because you genuinely view it this way or you are just making shit up to see if people buy into it and start to scumread me for playing into an "scum meta" that is wrong.
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Post #1021 (isolation #235) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:39 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Actually that's wrong. My play IS bigger brain that you are suggesting. And that is precisely why if this was an scum!Norwee/town!Tracer/Town!Toog situation as you are suggesting. That i would hammer a stake through your heart the moment it was possible. And it was VERY possible.
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Post #1022 (isolation #236) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:39 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I'm starting to wonder if you actually just bad.
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Post #1023 (isolation #237) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:40 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Cus i don't buy you actually scumread me for "paranoia" here. VOTE: Tracer
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Post #1024 (isolation #238) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:41 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Like this just some opportunist shit here, i'm going out of my way to see good intentions from you, and you twisting my words in an very evil way that is making me PUKE.
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it actually makes absolutely 0 sense for Scum!Me to want to yeet Town!norwee who has been hard defending me for 2 days now
if I am scum and I have pocketed norwee!town so hard he is defending me two days in a row, why would I suddenly readflip on him? It makes very little sense for my survival.
He should know this.
ESPECIALLY when my readflip is conditioned on me getting myself yeeted today FIRST and asking town to deadsheep my hero solve - it doesn't make much sense to do this if I'm not flipping town today
I am not impressed and laugh at your thesis.
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Post #1056 (isolation #240) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:30 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Ok.
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In post 1025, Wallflower wrote:Tracer I think this play from Norwe makes your suggested Norwe-scum/Tracer-town world a lot less likely
actually the opposite.
if Nor-Town was actually townreading me he would know that this line of paranoia makes me more likely to be town.
Instead he sees me jumping out of his pocket and he's trying to kill me to shut me up asap
Does not compute. It's impossible to make you shut up.
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Post #1061 (isolation #242) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:38 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Also i think it's complete horsecrap how ur like "YOU SHOULD TOWNREAD ME FOR WANTING TO DIE" like Sanae Kochiya wasn't a thing where you endgames cus you kept arguing you wanted to die and i being a big dumb dumb protected you for it.
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Post #1062 (isolation #243) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:39 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I'm thinking you wanted to do that again, because you realized that's the only way for you and ur teammate to endgame.
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My scum ATE is designed to get townread, designed to buddy, designed to push, and designed to manipulate.
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Post #1068 (isolation #246) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:18 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
In post 1065, Tracer Bullet wrote:yea except i literally killed the easiest person to kill every day in that game
do you think its easy for me to kill you today? like lol what even is this comparison
I don't know what your plan is. Do i need to?
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Post #1069 (isolation #247) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:19 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I just need to see that you playing in a fucking scummy way lol.
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Post #1070 (isolation #248) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:21 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Town SHOULDN'T argue for their own death. Especially not someone as experienced as Pooky.
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Post #1071 (isolation #249) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:21 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
It's fake, nada, blabber, AtE. Whatever you wanna call it.
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Post #1072 (isolation #250) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:22 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Notice how he got unvoted by multiple players after doing that.
He knows what he is doing.
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Post #1073 (isolation #251) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:23 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Rce and Ircher need to both put their vote BACK. Cus we almost just made a big mistake here.
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Post #1074 (isolation #252) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:24 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
If i didn't have this previous experience with Pooky, ngl. I would have fallen for it.
But it is only knowing what i do and having learnt from my previous mistakes that i won't fall for it again.
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In post 1062, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm thinking you wanted to do that again, because you realized that's the only way for you and ur teammate to endgame.
who is my partner again ?
Interesting question.
The obvious answer would be S_S. Since as you said, his partner could be anyone. You even tried to tie him to me as an possible partner.
What's also interesting about S_S is that he openly stated that he as scum would not hammer either of Toog/Tracer because he just doesn't do that as town, and thus would apply that knowledge to his scumgame as well.
Other choices are Wall, Toog, RCE. Wall could theoretically just be hard bussing you for extra distancing. Toog somehow seems unlikely since you both were wagons, but not out of the question. RCE meh i'm just not feeling that.
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Post #1078 (isolation #254) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:03 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Yeah that's entirely possible.
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Post #1079 (isolation #255) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:04 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Are you still not gonna vote today.
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Post #1093 (isolation #256) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:35 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
This is the game where we make S_S come out of his shell and then we all have a big group hug in the shower.
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Post #1100 (isolation #257) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:44 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
Then why don't you do it.
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Post #1102 (isolation #258) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:46 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
You scaaared?
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In post 1101, Ircher wrote:Can you talk about that read some? I didn't see much about NorwegianBoy in your ISO.
Uh yeah, I don't townread him, and his play toward Pooky's been pretty weird (and consistent with scum who had someone pocketed who then became un-pocketed) and Pooky thinks he's scum.
Pooky pocketed me. It's the other way around.
Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Post #1106 (isolation #260) » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:05 am
Postby NorwegianboyEE »
I think it also makes a lot more sense for Tracer to threaten me when he was no longer E-1 and i wasn't voting him.
When Tracer no longer was in danger of me being the one to place the game changing vote to kill him he realized he no longer had any need to avoid antagonizing me and so he changed his tone completely.
Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting