Micro 1045: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts [END]

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VOTE: Hockeyfan

game is already too confusing for me

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VOTE: Norwee

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i think norwee's votes are a little erratic, not sure exactly what that means

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i take it you haven't played with me before?

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could be scum as the 8-ball, could be scum pretending to be the 8-ball so we don't vote him, could be nothing

day is young

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could be scum as the 8-ball, could be scum pretending to be the 8-ball so we don't vote him, could be nothing

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what? what does the 8-ball have to do with norwee's votes?

what are you talking about

i'm saying being the 8-ball or being mafia could affect the way he's voting

he asked hockeyfan a question with a vote and then decided to naked vote me instead without waiting for an answer

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lemme ask you something

why did you decide to vote me

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maybe i eat waffles for breakfast

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could be scum as the 8-ball, could be scum pretending to be the 8-ball so we don't vote him, could be nothing

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what? what does the 8-ball have to do with norwee's votes?

what are you talking about

i'm saying being the 8-ball or being mafia could affect the way he's voting

he asked hockeyfan a question with a vote and then decided to naked vote me instead without waiting for an answer

the 8-ball doesn't know that they are the 8-ball, so i don't understand where that factors in.

hockeyfan did answer the question.

if he's maf like i suggested then yes he would know he's the 8-ball or not

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hockeyfan did answer the question.

lol i guess he did my bad

voting off of hockey makes a little more sense now

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yeah i'm not so sure my theory was correct

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i don't really have an opinion on the worst yet

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Do you agree that you and one of TA Vera or Norweegee are scum?

no lol wtf

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what would town have said

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you think that town would omgus you?

but town telling the truth to your dumb argument is a scumtell?

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are you scum?

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according to you, your denial makes you scum

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if you want to engage me in good faith, then let's talk

if you're going to be weird about it then i'm going to pass

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Okay. Do you have any scum reads based off the RVS?

reads are like a fine wine

better with age

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STD feels smooth and less crass which means he's prob scum.

i'm jagged, you sock puppet

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could be scum as the 8-ball, could be scum pretending to be the 8-ball so we don't vote him, could be nothing

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what? what does the 8-ball have to do with norwee's votes?

what are you talking about

i'm saying being the 8-ball or being mafia could affect the way he's voting

he asked hockeyfan a question with a vote and then decided to naked vote me instead without waiting for an answer

the 8-ball doesn't know that they are the 8-ball, so i don't understand where that factors in.

hockeyfan did answer the question.

if he's maf like i suggested then yes he would know he's the 8-ball or not

and how would that affect how how he's voting?

it's about how he voted, but it turns out he didn't vote that way so i'm not sure this matters anymore

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I think STD has been tonally weird so far, does nobody agree on that.

how so

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I think STD has been tonally weird so far, does nobody agree on that.

how so

std how do u feel about theworst and Salsa and hockeyfan

i'm not sure what to think about the worst i still need more info there.

salsa did absolutely nothing so there's no read there. if hockey comes up scum she might have defended him a little bit. but it doesn't look like a defense so i don't have any reason to think they're partnered.

43 kinda pinged me like scum being overzealous, i've known this to be a tell that works for me sometimes. but i've liked their posting, they're giving reads in the thread and i think they could be town.

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I'm pretty happy with StD's page 4 content too, legit engagement with ta vera and just feels like he's genuinely trying to get solvy content out there

That's what made me paranoid.

how can i be "tonally weird" and "genuinely trying to get solvy content out there" at the same time?

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i'm not personally sure how to read someone as 8ball so i don't really have 8ball reads. The only thing I can think of is mafia wanting to draw attention to themselves either as the 8ball to get limmed and get a kill, or as not the 8ball to look like the 8ball and be avoided as a lim target. I don't know which is more likely if either are even likely at all.

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norwee are you just ignoring me now

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188 that's interesting. My approach was to not read for it at all and count votes, pushes, and shade, and assume people getting a lot of those things are more likely and none of those things are less likely to be the 8 ball.

depends on whether or not mafia find it advantageous to vote/push/shade the 8ball.

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i think the worst is town

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I just can't imagine three players going
"Hey let's not get the 8 ball!"

2 Mafia Goons
6 Townies

lmao i think frog might be town

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VOTE: Norwee

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enchant why did you vote me?

ta vera why did you shade a bunch of people and then vote me?

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43 kinda pinged me like scum being overzealous, i've known this to be a tell that works for me sometimes. but i've liked their posting, they're giving reads in the thread and i think they could be town.

what about the reads he's giving seems town? or is it just the fact that he's giving reads? that alone shouldn't be AI.

it just seems like their play has been town to me it's not a strong read

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i don't have a favorite post

it was a gut read based on what things he said mostly from 113, it seems sincere. do you not like gut reads?

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i take it you haven't played with me before?

i just think that ta vera hasn't encountered me and finds me scummy for my playstyle tbh i've already had this concern above

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Klick do you like your vote or just kept it there because you haven't changed it yet

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to @350, to be frank, i wouldnt be bothered too much, I kinda deserve it lol

i know it's not AI to say this but I think it shows awareness of the gamestate that comes from a place of truth. I also agree with some of hockey's points (like I don't think hockey was shading the worst when he talked about the worst's frog case).

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klick hasn't posted yet im waiting

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to @350, to be frank, i wouldnt be bothered too much, I kinda deserve it lol

i know it's not AI to say this but I think it shows awareness of the gamestate that comes from a place of truth.

what do you mean by this? why is that awareness something that doesn't come from scum? or what is it about the awareness that "comes from a place of truth"?

it's a fancy way of saying my gut is telling me it comes from town

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you ask a lot of questions

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Ta vera do you have reads

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Share pls

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will try to effort tonight/tomorrow

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still thinking

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rosarium's intro is informative, but i'm not convinced it necessarily comes from town it just looks like "effort = town" and i'm not sure the read from Kovu looks genuine. I'm also a little wary of Ta Vera since all they really did was post questions. I did like their readslist though i wouldn't have minded an actual summation of their thoughts on frogs.

i can't read enchant for shit so i have no idea.

liked hockeyfan's recent posting.

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VOTE: kovu for now

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post content, not a defense

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Oh I know who you are lol

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UNVOTE: gonna give time since I think I can read you

Frogztar seems town to me not just based on the "slip" but I believe its genuine.

I still don't know about the worst, might not be a bad place to look further.

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i'm here. Frogs is my strongest town read so I won't be voting there.

Kovu I'm not sure of yet but I think i'm leaning town.

i'm going back and forth on the rosarium slot. i appreciate the effort Kovu took in their case and agree with some points, but i'm not so sure all the things they said are so damning. that said rosarium never came back to defend themselves and have about 2 hours to do so. Salsa and Klick both kind of look bad in hindsight, tbh.

VOTE: Rosarium

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You realize deadline is in less than two hours and I went over each wagon

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You're right because hockey fan and enchant had way better reasoning than mine yet you dont seem to care about them at all

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You're right I should have said nothing and you would have been happy with that

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Whatever. You're probably scum just trying to get a rise out of me.

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We'll see about that

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Not going to fall for it. Next time I play with you I know not to reveal my thoughts. Good to know.

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You're salty

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Anyone can see when you flip red you were just out here upset you got caught. I'll wait for the flip and reassess if you were town but I doubt that's the case now.

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If you're town you are so tunneled for doing exactly what you are accusing me of doing which is making a read at deadline. You chose to ignore other votes with no reasoning attached to latch onto a townies reasoning for no reason. Doesn't make sense. If I were scum I would have just voted you.

If you're scum you're probably mad you didn't get picked as the 8ball.

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I'm over it scum I got things to do. But go ahead and keep engaging me in bad faith, show people how upset you are.

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how was i interacting with bad faith?

how was rosarium not interacting with bad faith? she ignored anything else about my play to tunnel on me for one post and blatantly ignored similar votes onto her.

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why kovu dead

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547- Dont think this is your genuine thought- Rosa is going down there, no need for her to make herself look "worse" as mafia

i mean perhaps there was some wishful thinking there but i guess i was just as tunneled as rosarium was

558- Just, yeah this doeosnt seem engaging in good faith

me being snarky and perhaps a little rude was frustration from someone pretending to be critical while not spending any time reassessing their read to double down on a tunnel from one post and somehow she's arguing in good faith and i'm not?

560- I do not think scum that are "caught" react like that, it was way too close to deadline, I think they just dont say anything to avoid spewing thier partners

how would she have spewed her partner there if she was scum? she decided not to say much about anyone other than me. i was tunneled at that point because i didn't think town would argue so 1-dimensionally.

maybe it doesn't make a lot of sense in hindsight but i didn't know her alignment so how was i supposed to know why she was doing what she was doing? you can say scum wouldn't anti-spew all you like, doesn't mean scum don't do it on occasion.

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how was i interacting with bad faith?

how was rosarium not interacting with bad faith? she ignored anything else about my play to tunnel on me for one post and blatantly ignored similar votes onto her.

Can you just clarify why you spent so much time arguing with someone you apparently thought would flip scum??

i kept trying to get away but she kept getting to me. i can be an emotional person and it was getting to me that she wouldn't let it go.

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So I think after what happened in twilight, mafia might have made me the 8ball. thus I'm especially wary of any one straight pushing me as they might be trying to get that kill.

It's interesting that Hockeyfan kind of tests the waters. He doesn't vote or directly scumread me, but he still wants to throw shade and make sure i'm a viable target. If I am the 8ball, this could be hockey's way of subtly trying to push me but waiting for someone else to start the wagon.

VOTE: Hockeyfan

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who do you want to yeet?

who do you think is the 8ball?

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i was asking enchant (and still want their answer) but let's talk about this a sec

do you think enchant could be the 8ball?

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hey fam, will post when i get a chance, maybe tomorrow morning.

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i don't see it and i don't believe that you do

then why did you vote hockey earlier today

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what has enchant actually done all game

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i've actually cased people and have been asking questions

i am rubber you are glue so it bounces off of me and sticks to you

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nah it's NAI

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I haven't been doing much all site. Can try to make this game more of a priority.

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that human turtle looks like a testicle

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I say this a lot but activity is rarely AI for me, take it with a grain of salt. mmm salt. i think just because i've been at work/wedding planning/asleep instead of playing mafia on day 3 isn't really a good indicator of what my alignment is.

i'm a little hesitant on enchant and the worst being partners because why quickhammer someone who wasn't the 8-ball unless it wasn't planned, unless it was just something that happened because Enchant likes to hammer people. Even so, I don't really remember a lot of effort from Enchant before today. I'm trying to be cautious but i think that's where i'd want to vote.

the worst has been hard to read all game but i guess they meant to say they scumread hockey which changes their progression a lot. I don't really remember a lot of what the worst has actually done besides votehop a lot, would could be mafia trying to obfuscate the 8ball.

Kovu's push on rosarium in hindsight has me a little worried. the fact that she wasn't the 8ball alleviates that a little, but then again if kovu made such an effortfull case against the 8ball and we limmed the 8ball it would look really bad. I think Kovu deserves another look.

I think frogs is town, norwee i think is probably town too at this point. i think i want to look closer at the above three names today.

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VOTE: the worst