Micro 1042: Meme Wars | Fin!

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler:

VOTE: pavowski

[Dwlee99]

[insert meme here]

[Dwlee99]

It's good thing not mafia isn't in this game amirite

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler:

[Dwlee99]

I totally wouldn't hammer this

Spoiler:

[Dwlee99]

Why did you bother claiming? Ugh

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: val

Scum?

[Dwlee99]

Telling kinda

[Dwlee99]

Vote val win game yw

[Dwlee99]

Vote val win game yw

I'd forgotten what it's like to play with Dwlee, thanks for bringing it back

Have I really not efforted with you in a game. I will eventually, but this is meme wars

[Dwlee99]

Pretty sure val is actually scum. Someone ask me why, it'll be fun

[Dwlee99]

Why wait to be asked?

It's more exciting this way

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Bugspray

Yeah, this feels off. How many times has Dwlee actively contributed, by that definition? In fact, what about me? It looks like one of those metrics thats makes sense on the surface, but it's obviously a bunch of crap after a moments reflection.

Is a Three wagon something you don't want taking off, for some reason?

This is a chainsaw attack and then saying I'm chainsawing is funny

[Dwlee99]

Chainsaw defense oops

[Dwlee99]

Yea that too let's get em

[Dwlee99]

Why would I not be

[Dwlee99]

I think this is town Bugspray though.

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler:

why might I not play

[Dwlee99]

Pooky

[Dwlee99]

I fucking love playing with pooky

[Dwlee99]

God, seeing your posts literally just made my day wtf pooky

I was just middling along like oh whatever it's been a day

and now I feel ALIVE

[Dwlee99]

Sorry I'm trying to figure out which town game most fits my play this game and which scum game least fits it

[Dwlee99]

Sorry I'm trying to figure out which town game most fits my play this game and which scum game least fits it

you will die

No I won't I'm laserproof

[Dwlee99]

anyways this day phase as I see it is extremely boring now because I have zero interest in killing anyone who isn't dwlee, as they're spending 90% of the game doing nothing and when they give reads they're, uh, not good

Congrats being wrong

[Dwlee99]

I think val is scum. What do you think esooa

[Dwlee99]

Val I think you're doing caught for the wrong reasons tell rn

[Dwlee99]

Sure

[Dwlee99]

Sure

Are you waiting for me to repeat the question a third time?

Oh yea

[Dwlee99]

Look at Bugspray posts

Look at frogs mini normal

I rest my case

[Dwlee99]

I'm claiming to channel the power of Datisi right now to meta read Bugspray

[Dwlee99]

Actually maybe they're scum oops gimme a bit to think

[Dwlee99]

Alright, but how about a few words about why you were TRing bugspray in the first place?

What meta case did you think there was that you now seem to be telling us you might have been wrong about?

Give me something that might provide some measure of reassurance there has been at least some logical basis for the stances you've taken this game.

I felt like bugspray is doing solving where there it felt like none

on reread I'm less sure on both counts

[Dwlee99]

I don't even think they're a wolf, they just should be todays kill as far as I see it rn

Well that's anti-town

[Dwlee99]

I don't even think they're a wolf, they just should be todays kill as far as I see it rn

Well that's anti-town

woe is me

Woe isn't me. I'm Dwlee, not Woe

[Dwlee99]

I might hammer pooky just for the meme but I'd still prefer val lim methinks

[Dwlee99]

I might hammer pooky just for the meme but I'd still prefer val lim methinks

Well, you and Meg can't both hammer.

You had sufficient time to think about bugspray, now?

Not really no, been busy rip

[Dwlee99]

So we would need two more on meg. Why vote for them? They're frequently mislimmed early

[Dwlee99]

I would flash wagon bugspray off that sure

[Dwlee99]

do I do it

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Bugspray
I'll vote here but can switch to hammer cause I'll be around

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Bugspray
I'll vote here but can switch to hammer cause I'll be around

Why did you ask if you should hammer rather than just doing it, assuming you would if someone told you to

Idk it's fun and we need a wagon to go through before deadline but that's all but confirmed now

[Dwlee99]

Wait what

[Dwlee99]

Tbh if pooky is scum here I take credit for reading him as town anyway cause HE thought he was town

[Dwlee99]

How am I fine wtf

[Dwlee99]

Yum yum

[Dwlee99]

Answer is more complicated than bugs or me probably

[Dwlee99]

Prism
Save The Dragons
Val89
MegAzumarill

I think final scum is in here

Feel free to narrow it down more and then ring me

[Dwlee99]

Prism
Save The Dragons
Val89
MegAzumarill

I think final scum is in here

Feel free to narrow it down more and then ring me

i'll narrow it down

prism's dead

also i don't know that pooky busses val like that or i bus pooky like that

Oh thanks

Okay so Meg?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Meg

Other scum prob goon imo

[Dwlee99]

not sure i buy that you didn't know who was nk'd

If I tried to consciously remember I would have, but I just grabbed a list from the OP and removed names

[Dwlee99]

Sometimes I know things but simultaneously don't, true story

[Dwlee99]

They said something about E-1 and pooky and don't do that if scum and probably true?

[Dwlee99]

Vote Count 1-12

PookyTheMagicalBear

(3): Save The Dragons, bugspray, Val89

MegAzumarill

(2): Prism, Pavowski

Dwlee99

(2): Esooa, MegAzumarill

Val89

(2): Dwlee99, PookyTheMagicalBear

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: January 29, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-01-28 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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<3 val

[Dwlee99]

Vote count UNRELATED

[Dwlee99]

Nah

[Dwlee99]

Nope

[Dwlee99]

You're welcome my good rat friend

[Dwlee99]

I don't want bugs claim.

[Dwlee99]

Vote Count 2-3

MegAzumarill

(2): bugspray, Dwlee99

bugspray

(2): Val89, MegAzumarill

Dwlee99

(1): Pavowski

Not Voting

(2): Save The Dragons, Esooa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: February 7, Noon US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-02-07 09:00:00)

Mod Notes: Back again
Combined fferyllt/Lukewarm ISO for vote counts

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[Dwlee99]

Hopefully this ends game cause if not I probably get limmed tomorrow sad

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: MegA

[Dwlee99]

I'm fine w mass claim

VT

You next mega

[Dwlee99]

We doing some popcorn

[Dwlee99]

Think
UNVOTE:
Val -> meg -> esooa?

[Dwlee99]

Oh right

[Dwlee99]

Okay Val then meg hmm

[Dwlee99]

No saying things til claims ty

[Dwlee99]

Meg claim?

[Dwlee99]

I AM CONFTOWN LET'S GOOOO

[Dwlee99]

Don't vote without me chiming in on the mechs

[Dwlee99]

6 days to deadline *evil smile*

[Dwlee99]

Can't be esooa because blocked + confirmed vanilla with a kill occurring is a clear assuming two scum

Can't be me unless I'm a multitasking ninja strongman roleblocker or something equally ridiculous

[Dwlee99]

@Mod:

does mafia have multitasking?

[Dwlee99]

Also val please full claim?

[Dwlee99]

So all the claims are:

Mega - Novice Tracker. N2 Dwlee -> Nowhere
STD - 1-shot RB. N1: Blocked Esooa
Val - JOAT (cop, jailkeep, ???). @Val, please full claim your role. I don't know what other shots you might have. N1: Cop on me, no result. N2: Jailkeep megazumarill

Assume Val + STD town, then mega would have to be able to roleblock and kill in the same night, and have roleblocked val both nights or roleblocked night one but is a strongman.

Assume Val + Mega town, then Val was roleblocked both nights by a scum STD and STD is able to kill and roleblock at the same time.

Assume mega + STD town, then Val is just lying.

All are possible so any argument for someone being town/not based on mech are now completely irrelevant I will be playing based on reads.

[Dwlee99]

Ignore the part about full claim, it was there in the draft before I asked.

[Dwlee99]

Maybe you can argue things like "why did scum roleblock val?" but then you also encounter "why does scum!val lie about it?"

Mega: was there a particular reason you thought val should claim first? Did you suspect they were a PR?

[Dwlee99]

Ninja roleblocker would be uhh interesting

Ascetic ninja could make sense but is impossible because you got s result

[Dwlee99]

Why does Val's claim impact that though?

[Dwlee99]

@Mod:

If A roleblocks B, B roleblocks A and B also attempts to do another action (such as the factional kill), will the other action occur?

[Dwlee99]

I don't really why scum would roleblock val and not the role cop night one, especially if they are able to be guiltied. Imo if I were pav I'd check STD

[Dwlee99]

But rolecop has the potential to confirm or guilty people. Seems optimal to block there

[Dwlee99]

Regardless of who scum is, btw

[Dwlee99]

Hmmm I don't think mutual roleblocks are necessarily covered by NAR, unlucky

[Dwlee99]

But normal guidelines say it should be planned during review, and there are multiple resolution methods

[Dwlee99]

Anyway it's time to do some pooky/three diving

[Dwlee99]

Wait why did y'all try to conftown esooa... like pav/STD checking there is so weird cause her and Pooky seem so unaligned in this ISO

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee do you wanna kill std with me?

Also we aren't necessarily under a normal rules etc, just under normal roles

NAR is normal rules. And no, I'm ignoring mech except for what is absolutely proven: me/esooa conftown

[Dwlee99]

I'm deliberating

[Dwlee99]

This is fair, the day I get finally get a red PM is the day I take my pants off in a Wendys. I mostly just don't want to sell my soul to a game right now, stop before it's too late and I get hooked for the long haul.

You have sold me. I still don't want to vote Val though so.

VOTE: Meg

i dont know why i am sheeping you when it almost never works out

VOTE: meg

i guess i assume you're due at some point

[Dwlee99]

Y'know we'd be winning if we didn't kill Bugspray

[Dwlee99]

We are winning anyway but c'mon

[Dwlee99]

Wait but seriously why the hell was val roleblocked

[Dwlee99]

Okay okay I have like minor paranoia starting about there being 3 scum this game. If true, meg/val are for sure partnered?

[Dwlee99]

I guess esooa could be scum if 3 scum but 3 scum in 9p is sooo bad if not announced beforehand

[Dwlee99]

Yea I'm leaning to mega lim today maybe idk

[Dwlee99]

STD did you look at pooky's ISO to determine who to block?

[Dwlee99]

Also why was I tracked when I was off wagon the mislim

[Dwlee99]

Why suspect a bus?

[Dwlee99]

(bussin )

[Dwlee99]

What even happened to my brain that I went from pushing val D1 to thinking they were townie now?

[Dwlee99]

Okay okay I have like minor paranoia starting about there being 3 scum this game. If true, meg/val are for sure partnered?

Do you think a world where towns only Prs are a OS roleblocker and a 2 shot role cop is ever even thought of with 3 scum in a 9pl game.
It's like 300% impossible

Okay it'd be you and esooa if 3 scum

[Dwlee99]

(there are not 3 scum)

Esooa I need your help solving this

[Dwlee99]

How has it been 48 hours lmao

[Dwlee99]

Meg what is your case on STD? Like by play I mean

[Dwlee99]

Okay so both of you basically agree val is town so kill the other?

[Dwlee99]

Why can't it be me

[Dwlee99]

Are you suggesting that you have put substantial thought in? I mean, why STD over meg? Cause of the claim?

[Dwlee99]

I want you to actually scum case STD if you think he is scum here

[Dwlee99]

Also: if you're wrong on STD then esooa would still be the kill? No?

[Dwlee99]

Er me, I mean

[Dwlee99]

Pardon my paranoia, but that immediately after Esooa indicates a Meg preference you jumping in to push STD is like exactly following a scum win path, because it seems like Esooa would consider voting meg between you/meg, but not voting STD in you/STD

[Dwlee99]

And STD really has the most reason to seem town. I'll have to do some research possibly, but three hard shoves him to start

[Dwlee99]

I will admit your role and meg's appear designed for the same setup

[Dwlee99]

What I cannot wrap my head around is why STD would be blocking you

[Dwlee99]

But that applies for any scum...

[Dwlee99]

Also: why would STD kill prism over pav? Ever? Look at who dies N1. It's prism. How does this take priority over a role cop for scum!STD? Prism townreads STD EoD, is postured to push meg (which in this universe would be a free mislim), and there's a rolecop who imo is likely to check the other PR claim to see if it's real. And scum!STD goes with killing someone who will push a mislim for him?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Meg
I'm not quite okay ending day yet but this just seems like the answer on play and NKA, mechs be damned

[Dwlee99]

If I'm wrong I am sorry

[Dwlee99]

Wait I can make a mech argument even though it shouldn't actually mean anything

2-shot rolecop + cop/jailkeeper/checker + Novice Tracker is probably too much town power. But this is meaningless not knowing what exactly scum have.

[Dwlee99]

Esooa absolutely can't be scum unless three person scum team.

I am very reasonably not scum unless I was a ninja roleblocker and for some reason there are 4 prs in a 9p

[Dwlee99]

I think prism died because it's the only way meg even lives to D3

[Dwlee99]

I don't think it's a free win to accept your jailkeep claim.

[Dwlee99]

I would go "if you were roleblocked N1 you could be N2 as well, and meg could be a strongman"

[Dwlee99]

I mean I feel like meg could have been trying to buddy me by clearing me and it just didn't work

[Dwlee99]

Wait I already hammered meg lol this conversation is pointless

[Dwlee99]

@Esooa, you should probably vote STD if it comes to tomorrow. Let's hope it doesn't and I was right.

[Dwlee99]

At least 2 town voted for meg. Therefore we are right.

[Dwlee99]

I felt like Val's role was extremely ridiculous and I didn't understand why scum would ever roleblock there and I should have taken that to mean Val was just scum. I think I got caught up in it being so ridiculous that why would scum ever claim it kind of thing.