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Post Post #15 (isolation #0) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:48 am

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Hello all

VOTE: ActionDan for old time sake.

I don't understand the setup. Can anyone be a lamb and summarize it in simple words?
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Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:24 am

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In post 18, Enchant wrote:Mafia Actress x2, D1 Town Bride, Town Mystic, Vanilla Townie x5
Mafia Seamstress, Mafia Actress, D1 Town Bride, Town Mystic x2, Vanilla Townie x4
Mafia Seamstress x2, D1 Town Bride, Town Mystic x3, Vanilla Townie x3


Standart is 5 VT, Town Mystic, Town Bried and 2 Mafia Members.

On random, Mafia Member could be either Actress or Seamstress. For every Seamstress, one VT replaced with Oracle.

Any more questions?
What's with the suits then? No, It still didn't make sense.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:32 am

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Okay, now it's slightly clear.
Lets scum hunt then.

VFP why did you say everyone above you is town?
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Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:32 am

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In post 21, Enchant wrote:In more simple words, suit is simple disguise as that role for all checks and flips.
Appreciate it. You seem to know scum roles very well. :roll:
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Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:37 am

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In post 25, VFP wrote:
In post 23, ArcAngel9 wrote:Okay, now it's slightly clear.
Lets scum hunt then.

VFP why did you say everyone above you is town?
I just feel that the posts before me had no scum motivation to them.
wasn't it obvious?
In post 26, Enchant wrote:I didn't get suit. You should claim if you have any, because here no reason to not.
me neither. Why do you think scum claim their suit?
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:44 am

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In post 29, VFP wrote:
In post 27, ArcAngel9 wrote:wasn't it obvious?
I just wanted to stop anyone making a push there.
Why would anyone push at the first post? I don't understand your response.
In post 30, Enchant wrote:
In post 27, ArcAngel9 wrote: me neither. Why do you think scum claim their suit?
Seamstress can give suit for other players, disguising them.
okay, so you're saying if I get the suit and I should claim it here because that would clear me as town? Is that your logic?
In post 31, Enchant wrote:About game. I have urge to put Not_Mafia on E-1 to see, if he will manage to selfhammer with his "I CLAIM JESTER" post.

VOTE: Not_Mafia
i don't think he even confirmed into the game yet.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:55 am

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I agree. What if a mafia member claims that they have received the suit and trying to convince that they are indeed town?
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Post Post #38 (isolation #7) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:11 am

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In post 35, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 27, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 25, VFP wrote:
In post 23, ArcAngel9 wrote:Okay, now it's slightly clear.
Lets scum hunt then.

VFP why did you say everyone above you is town?
I just feel that the posts before me had no scum motivation to them.
wasn't it obvious?
TMI???
{Vfp, arc} GG wp
What is TMI?
In post 36, Enchant wrote:It doesn't prove anything, expect for possibility of seamstress and explaination why person reveals as not role what they claim.

I suggest to not fit your head with mech here and use something other to murder mafia, because almost all checks are worthless here, if mafia any smart.
Got it. so any thoughts as of now?
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Post Post #39 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:12 am

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In post 37, T3 wrote:Sup I hardclaim bride because then we'll know who proposed the marriage and I can only use day 1.
Wow.. So you will have to choose to propose.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:58 am

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Won't scum benefit from the mass claim?

the bride already claimed and I agree that we should all agree on who bride proposes.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:55 pm

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 49, Rockhopper wrote:Let's massclaim.
I'm a VT with a seamstress suit.
At this point you're either you're town or scum.
In post 51, VFP wrote:Okay!
I'm VT with nothing!
So am I.
In post 52, Not_Mafia wrote:
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One hell of an intro. Is Jester a role? I am confused
In post 54, Not_Mafia wrote:Hi!

Cows don't wear clothes
Fact. :lol:
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Post Post #67 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:28 pm

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Here is current claimed list

ArcAngel9 – VT Claimed
Enchant - Not claimed
VFP – VT Claimed
ActionDan -Not cliamed
Gamma Faria (hydra of Gamma Emerald and Salsabil Faria) – VT Claimed
Pink Panthers(hydra of Hopkirk and Nancy Drew 39) – Not claimed
T3 - BRIDE Claimed
Rockhopper - VT Claimed – But currently with seamstress suit
Not_Mafia - Just trolling
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Post Post #68 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:29 pm

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In post 62, Gamma Faria wrote:UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

We are VT with no suit.
weren't you waiting to consult with your other head before you claim?

What changed you?
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Post Post #77 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:52 pm

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote:I won’t really have time to post much but I can say I did approve massclaiming when asked
Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Why? Because I caught with you a lie? Your discord story is one-sided. You seem to want to push it back because I may have already smelled you correctly.

VOTE: Gamma Faria
In post 71, VFP wrote:I think Faria scum slipped and then just fake posted as Gamma to cover it up.

Spoiler:
That was a joke.
But I seriously feel that has happened.
In post 73, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 61, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 49, Rockhopper wrote:Let's massclaim.
I'm a VT with a seamstress suit.
At this point you're either you're town or scum.
:?
That's a bit of a stretch
What more you expect to say? Clear you as a town. No way. You could be totally lying as you don't want the bride choosing you?
In post 74, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote: Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Yeah, her busywork/lamist ignorance/seriousness towards VFP's joke post all seem scummy.
But is any of that AI? Do you have other reasons?
VFP joke was irrelevant and i was pushing the game to move forward.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:09 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 80, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 74, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote: Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Yeah, her busywork/lamist ignorance/seriousness towards VFP's joke post all seem scummy.
But is any of that AI? Do you have other reasons?
If it's scummy to you, why you're waiting for others' opinions instead of voting?


VOTE: Rockhopper

~
Faria
Good. it seems Rockhopper just wants to agree just like that.
In post 81, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote:I won’t really have time to post much but I can say I did approve massclaiming when asked
Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Why? Because I caught with you a lie? Your discord story is one-sided. You seem to want to push it back because I may have already smelled you correctly.

VOTE: Gamma Faria
Lol! What lie btw??


Faria said that they want to discuss with Gamma first before confirming on the mass claim and after few posts they just claimed VT. When I asked about it. I became a suspect.

would you deny this?
In post 83, VFP wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:But I seriously feel that has happened.
It's possible, but Gamma was also online around the time of the post... So would have been easier for scum Gamma to just post anyway...
In post 85, T3 wrote:Also Rockhopper is probably scum but that depends on the scumteams experience and knowledge of mech.
I second this.
In post 91, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote:I won’t really have time to post much but I can say I did approve massclaiming when asked
Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Why? Because I caught with you a lie? Your discord story is one-sided. You seem to want to push it back because I may have already smelled you correctly.

VOTE: Gamma Faria
In post 71, VFP wrote:I think Faria scum slipped and then just fake posted as Gamma to cover it up.

Spoiler:
That was a joke.
But I seriously feel that has happened.
It could just be the truth tho.
What's far fetched about talking with a hydra partner through discord?
And why would there be a need to make a fake cover up post as the partner even if the slot is scum?
there is no need but when I questioned or pointed to cover-up or a miss, I was attacked, my intentions were questioned and labeled as a suspect. I was just pushing it back on them to get a better reaction.

In post 73, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 61, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 49, Rockhopper wrote:Let's massclaim.
I'm a VT with a seamstress suit.
At this point you're either you're town or scum.
:?
That's a bit of a stretch
What more you expect to say? Clear you as a town. No way. You could be totally lying as you don't want the bride choosing you?
I was being sarcastic lel. Everyone's either town or scum.
I get that you meant it was NAI.
And your point?
In post 112, Enchant wrote:I believe we massclaiming.

I am Oracle, targeted Not_Mafia.

Gonna catch up.
Is this a joke? Is there a role as Oracle? Can you please clarify your claim?
In post 127, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm a VT
You need to stop trolling and start contributing a bit more NM.
In post 145, Enchant wrote:Lovely. Fine.


We have 3 possible setups here.

1. Actress+Actress. Then mafia can't give suits for town, but impossible to detect via mechanics. If Rock is not mafia, then this setup is impossible.
2. Actress+Seamstress. I believe this is case. Actress disguised self, Seamstress gived suit for Rock. Then half of mafia disguised here.
3. Seamstress+Seamstress. I think in this case, mafia would just disguise each other as they please, not giving suit for town. I also can't notice 3+ Oracle claims, but probably not all claimed yet. I will consider this setup again when all claim.

Ergo, it's easy for mafia to fool mariage/oracles and only way is to blast suspicious people.
This doesn't make any sense.
In post 163, ActionDan wrote:Basically rock hopper is scum or a VT claim is lying
Mostly but he claims a suit. Can we really lynch him?
In post 167, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:Why? Because I caught with you a lie? Your discord story is one-sided. You seem to want to push it back because I may have already smelled you correctly.

VOTE: Gamma Faria
Why fake it though? You seem a bit short on any actual reason to be pushing such a ludicrous suggestion
~Gamma
Oh god. I don't know why you stuck with that point. You need to contribute better. I pointed what I felt was a gap in your communication with the hydra. And your other head clearly forgot or slipped what she said and claimed right after and when i pointed that out, she brought up a discord story which looks very convenient. If my doubts ludicrous to you and so is your thinking on this topic.

In post 173, Gamma Faria wrote:If I had to guess the scumteam at this exact second I'd call it as ArcAngel+Rockhopper
ArcAngel's posting has been stilted as well as throwing shade in all the wrong places, and I don't like how Rockhopper has interacted with other slots
This is a very very hard OMGUS.
In post 174, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 148, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 127, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm a VT
With suit or without suit?

~
Faria
Cows don't wear clothes
Please replace out.
In post 214, T3 wrote:Enchant NM and I = basically conftown but we don't know who NM picked.
SMOKE is not confirmed town because they could be actress.
How are Enchant and NM are confirmed town? please clarify.
In post 219, Gamma Faria wrote:
And the
ArcAngel
mam is also vanished after voting our slot :shifty:

~
Faria
Not vanished. I was away. :facepalm:
In post 226, Not_Mafia wrote:I won’t claim exactly who I targeted, but it was someone in the non-suited VT claims
Why don't i believe you. Can you please be honest NM?
In post 234, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm town, eliminate Rockhopper
Explain why are you town? Is your claim legit?
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Post Post #238 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:18 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 80, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 74, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote: Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Yeah, her busywork/lamist ignorance/seriousness towards VFP's joke post all seem scummy.
But is any of that AI? Do you have other reasons?
If it's scummy to you, why you're waiting for others' opinions instead of voting?


VOTE: Rockhopper

~
Faria
Good. it seems Rockhopper just wants to agree just like that.

In post 81, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote:I won’t really have time to post much but I can say I did approve massclaiming when asked
Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Why? Because I caught with you a lie? Your discord story is one-sided. You seem to want to push it back because I may have already smelled you correctly.

VOTE: Gamma Faria
Lol! What lie btw??
Faria said that they want to discuss with Gamma first before confirming on the mass claim and after few posts they just claimed VT. When I asked about it. I became a suspect.

would you deny this?
In post 83, VFP wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:But I seriously feel that has happened.
It's possible, but Gamma was also online around the time of the post... So would have been easier for scum Gamma to just post anyway...
In post 85, T3 wrote:Also Rockhopper is probably scum but that depends on the scumteams experience and knowledge of mech.
I second this.
In post 91, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote:I won’t really have time to post much but I can say I did approve massclaiming when asked
Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Why? Because I caught with you a lie? Your discord story is one-sided. You seem to want to push it back because I may have already smelled you correctly.

VOTE: Gamma Faria
In post 71, VFP wrote:I think Faria scum slipped and then just fake posted as Gamma to cover it up.

Spoiler:
That was a joke.
But I seriously feel that has happened.
It could just be the truth tho.
What's far fetched about talking with a hydra partner through discord?
And why would there be a need to make a fake cover up post as the partner even if the slot is scum?
there is no need but when I questioned or pointed to cover-up or a miss, I was attacked, my intentions were questioned and labeled as a suspect. I was just pushing it back on them to get a better reaction.

In post 73, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 61, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 49, Rockhopper wrote:Let's massclaim.
I'm a VT with a seamstress suit.
At this point you're either you're town or scum.
:?
That's a bit of a stretch
What more you expect to say? Clear you as a town. No way. You could be totally lying as you don't want the bride choosing you?
[/quote]
I was being sarcastic lel. Everyone's either town or scum.
I get that you meant it was NAI.[/quote]
And your point?
In post 112, Enchant wrote:I believe we massclaiming.

I am Oracle, targeted Not_Mafia.

Gonna catch up.
Is this a joke? Is there a role as Oracle? Can you please clarify your claim?
In post 127, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm a VT
You need to stop trolling and start contributing a bit more NM.
In post 145, Enchant wrote:Lovely. Fine.


We have 3 possible setups here.

1. Actress+Actress. Then mafia can't give suits for town, but impossible to detect via mechanics. If Rock is not mafia, then this setup is impossible.
2. Actress+Seamstress. I believe this is case. Actress disguised self, Seamstress gived suit for Rock. Then half of mafia disguised here.
3. Seamstress+Seamstress. I think in this case, mafia would just disguise each other as they please, not giving suit for town. I also can't notice 3+ Oracle claims, but probably not all claimed yet. I will consider this setup again when all claim.

Ergo, it's easy for mafia to fool mariage/oracles and only way is to blast suspicious people.
This doesn't make any sense.
In post 163, ActionDan wrote:Basically rock hopper is scum or a VT claim is lying
Mostly but he claims a suit. Can we really lynch him?
In post 167, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:Why? Because I caught with you a lie? Your discord story is one-sided. You seem to want to push it back because I may have already smelled you correctly.

VOTE: Gamma Faria
Why fake it though? You seem a bit short on any actual reason to be pushing such a ludicrous suggestion
~Gamma
Oh god. I don't know why you stuck with that point. You need to contribute better. I pointed what I felt was a gap in your communication with the hydra. And your other head clearly forgot or slipped what she said and claimed right after and when i pointed that out, she brought up a discord story which looks very convenient. If my doubts ludicrous to you and so is your thinking on this topic.

In post 173, Gamma Faria wrote:If I had to guess the scumteam at this exact second I'd call it as ArcAngel+Rockhopper
ArcAngel's posting has been stilted as well as throwing shade in all the wrong places, and I don't like how Rockhopper has interacted with other slots
This is a very very hard OMGUS.
In post 174, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 148, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 127, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm a VT
With suit or without suit?

~
Faria
Cows don't wear clothes
Please replace out.
In post 214, T3 wrote:Enchant NM and I = basically conftown but we don't know who NM picked.
SMOKE is not confirmed town because they could be actress.
How are Enchant and NM are confirmed town? please clarify.
In post 219, Gamma Faria wrote:
And the
ArcAngel
mam is also vanished after voting our slot :shifty:

~
Faria
Not vanished. I was away. :facepalm:
In post 226, Not_Mafia wrote:I won’t claim exactly who I targeted, but it was someone in the non-suited VT claims
Why don't i believe you. Can you please be honest NM?
In post 234, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm town, eliminate Rockhopper
[/quote]

Explain why are you town? Is your claim legit?
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Post Post #239 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:18 am

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Apologies. Trying to fix my quotes. I mixed up everything.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:22 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 237, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 236, ArcAngel9 wrote:Please replace out.
Are you trying to say that cows do wear clothes?
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Post Post #246 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:16 am

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In post 241, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 238, ArcAngel9 wrote:Why don't i believe you.
I don't know, you tell me
I am actually good this with lynch. Please join me.

VOTE: Not Mafia
In post 243, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 229, ActionDan wrote: looking at 190, I may have suggested a VT is lying but I was really being pedantic, because usually I'm under the working assumption that town
don't
lie. It's hard to fault PP from incorporating that tenant into their mechanics argument and then reaching the obvious conclusion. Speaking of lying; Rockhopper what were you hoping to gain from yours (how would this confuse scum)? If we are in the Actress/Seamstress/2 oracle world, which it appears we are, there's going to be a seamstress vulnerable to briding, and a fake suit claim could solve that problem.
It forces them to follow a different line of thought, which imo could be mildly telling since they'd know for a fact that it's a lie.

An Actress/Seamstress world would imply some townie lying about not receiving a suit. That's unlikely since a proposal would most definitely cause their elimination and a claim change to mafia would look too suspicious. I don't think anyone here believes that the benefits of increased cognitive load outweigh the cost of dying.
223; 227; Rockhopper; Enchant; where is this notion of a 3rd oracle coming from? Is there any reason to assume some other person is lying?
Based on that assumption, there would have to be another oracle if NM is telling the truth since {seamstress,seamstress} is the only logical scenario where no town gets a suit if I'm not wrong.
Didnt enchant already claim oracle? And you already claimed to have a mafia suit. I am confused with your thoughts.
In post 245, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 73, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 61, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 49, Rockhopper wrote:Let's massclaim.
I'm a VT with a seamstress suit.
At this point you're either you're town or scum.
:?
That's a bit of a stretch
This was sarcasm.
I wasn't really denying anything.
Why is this post brought up again?
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Post Post #248 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:22 am

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In post 247, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 246, ArcAngel9 wrote:I am actually good this with lynch. Please join me.

VOTE: Not Mafia
But why?
A) You're trolling
B) You're lying
C) you're uncooperative
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Post Post #250 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:29 am

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In post 249, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm not lying
Then tell us what is your role?
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Post Post #253 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:35 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 252, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 250, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 249, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm not lying
Then tell us what is your role?
Mystic
Wrong answer.

Hard Claim. I lied before.

I am Town Mystic. I targeted ActionDan on night 0
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Post Post #254 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:36 am

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

LIAR!
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Post Post #256 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:43 am

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In post 255, Not_Mafia wrote:Sounds like we should eliminate you because

A) You're trolling
B) You're lying
C) you're uncooperative
In what world you think anyone would believe you NM?

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Post Post #258 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:47 am

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In post 257, VFP wrote:There can only be 1 mystic, right?
Not necessarily!!

Mafia Actress x2, D1 Town Bride, Town Mystic, Vanilla Townie x5
Mafia Seamstress, Mafia Actress, D1 Town Bride,
Town Mystic x2
, Vanilla Townie x4
Mafia Seamstress x2, D1 Town Bride, Town Mystic x3, Vanilla Townie x3

If NM is telling truth, we should lynch Enchant. His oracle claim is bird shit then.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:48 am

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or there is Town Mystic X3 - i am not sure if there are three mystics then
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Post Post #264 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:50 am

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In post 261, Not_Mafia wrote:lol ArcAngel fakeclaimed not realising we have a revealed Bride
why do you think I don't realize the bride's claim?. It's open and confirmed by mod.

I claimed because you don't seem to tell who you targetted last night. I did.. Who is really lying here?
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Post Post #265 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:51 am

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In post 260, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Arcangel
I even hate this more.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:55 am

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In post 266, Rockhopper wrote:Oh, I thought you scumslipped, nevermind.
I lied about having a seamstress suit, Arc.

VOTE: Pink Panthers
What why pink panthers? His role is literally confirmed by the mod.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:03 am

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In post 271, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 267, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 266, Rockhopper wrote:Oh, I thought you scumslipped, nevermind.
I lied about having a seamstress suit, Arc.

VOTE: Pink Panthers
What why pink panthers? His role is literally confirmed by the mod.
It could be a suit, they aren't conf!town.

Why did you lie about your role?
I was skeptical about the mass claim and also wanted to check what roles reveal first. With Enchat oracle role, NM Mystic role and I am being the Mystic. I feel there is a high chance that one of them is lying.

So you're now claiming that you're didn't receive the suit. If so, why did you say so?
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Post Post #274 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:06 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

I didn't understand you.
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Post Post #281 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:41 am

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In post 276, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 268, VFP wrote:VOTE: NM

In what world does Arc lie here?
She thought she was CCing me cos she knows her and Rockhopper are caught
So i have shared who i targeted on night 0 right after my claim and your target was Enchant Mum. And you are saying that i CC you because i got caught?
Just hear yourself!
In post 280, Rockhopper wrote:Unless the team is exactly {NM, Arc}.
Idk.
:lol:
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Post Post #290 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:58 pm

Post by ArcAngel9 »

Or he was just trolling all along.

Why claim things unnecessarily. So what’s next. This setup is confusing.
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Post Post #359 (isolation #33) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:55 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 291, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 2, DkKoba wrote:
DkKoba
Town Mystic


You are a Town Mystic.

Every night, you may choose a player.

Upon your death, the player you chose will have their role publicly revealed. If the chosen player has a suit, the suit will show instead.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated. Good Luck.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment,
as well as your n0 action.
ArcAngel9
and
Enchant
, who did you target on N1?

~
Faria
I have targetted Enchant.
In post 293, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 238, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 81, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 77, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 70, Gamma Faria wrote:I won’t really have time to post much but I can say I did approve massclaiming when asked
Also I kinda think ArcAngel is sus

~Gamma
Why? Because I caught with you a lie? Your discord story is one-sided. You seem to want to push it back because I may have already smelled you correctly.

VOTE: Gamma Faria
Lol! What lie btw??
~
Faria


Faria said that they want to discuss with Gamma first before confirming on the mass claim and after few posts they just claimed VT. When I asked about it. I became a suspect.

would you deny this?
For the last time and my time zone is UTC+6, so calculate yourself!

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Spoiler: On Your Face!
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For the last time, we are over this topic multiple times already. We have moved on but you're the one still hanging on this important discussion and trying to prove so damn hard.
Even what you're saying is true, noone actually cares. How are we supposed to know that you were talking to your hydra partner outside the game? I am not sure if that is even allowed in the game.

Requesting @Mod to look into this.

In post 294, Gamma Faria wrote:
POE={
Rockhopper
>
ArcAngel9
>
VFP
}


VOTE: Rockhopper

~
Faria
Is that your scum list?
In post 297, Pink Panthers wrote:
In post 268, VFP wrote:VOTE: NM

In what world does Arc lie here?
In post 267, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 266, Rockhopper wrote:Oh, I thought you scumslipped, nevermind.
I lied about having a seamstress suit, Arc.

VOTE: Pink Panthers
What why pink panthers? His role is literally confirmed by the mod.
In post 258, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 257, VFP wrote:There can only be 1 mystic, right?
Not necessarily!!

Mafia Actress x2, D1 Town Bride, Town Mystic, Vanilla Townie x5
Mafia Seamstress, Mafia Actress, D1 Town Bride,
Town Mystic x2
, Vanilla Townie x4
Mafia Seamstress x2, D1 Town Bride, Town Mystic x3, Vanilla Townie x3

If NM is telling truth, we should lynch Enchant. His oracle claim is bird shit then.
In post 251, VFP wrote:NM is probably town.
@VFP - what changed for you to go from NM town > voting NM there? There was no setup related reasons for him to be lying. Any of (town NM+town Arc, town NM+scum Arc, scum NM+town Arc, scum NM + scum Arc) are all possible.

Arc - did you think the bride is 100% at this point? that feels like a weird overlooking at this stage
Arc - why did you bold the 2 mystics setup & assume NM was lying when there were 3 mystic claims and it could have been the 3 mystic setup? bolding the 2 specifically is part of this question

Faria quoting private chat with timestamps feels like the kind of thing DK might modkill for.
You have multiple quotes and asking multiple questions at the same time.

Bride is obviously town. How are you not aware of this? and what is there to overlook here?
I don't recall why I didn't bold the 3 mystics, I thought I did but I did mention it in my post. It was not intentional.
In post 298, Pink Panthers wrote:Arc - why did you wait until after the bride using their action (which i think they said they planned to do post massclaim) to change your claim? there's an obvious incentive for scum you to switch there when you know it can't be proven false

-Hop
I didn't care about the bride's action. I was not ready for the mass claim. I counterclaimed Not_Mafia only when he denied to share the N0 action. I felt that he was definitely lying there because a real mason wouldn't have any reason to hold back about night target.
In post 307, Enchant wrote:Targeted ActionDan.

NM is not mafia, because he didn't shot anyone. He is also not Oracle, because there should be reveal. Of course it's possible he is mafia/Oracle who decided to do nothing... Do you believe NM will not shoting when he can and not using ability when he can? Don't answer on this one, and assume him as VT.
Why? What was your motive?
In post 310, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 307, Enchant wrote:Targeted ActionDan.

NM is not mafia, because he didn't shot anyone. He is also not Oracle, because there should be reveal. Of course it's possible he is mafia/Oracle who decided to do nothing... Do you believe NM will not shoting when he can and not using ability when he can? Don't answer on this one, and assume him as VT.
The role pm states that scum on death
may
use their 1 shot vengeful ability, no?
{Arc, NM} is still possible because scum choosing seamstress just to confuse town with an extra oracle seems unlikely, with the potential briding element.
Does NM usually fakeclaim as town just for the lulz?
Explain How I and NM are possible scum here? He was a lousy townie and screwed up this town. I caught him on his lie. Do you think anyone would do such a thing as a scum?

In post 324, VFP wrote:
In post 323, Pink Panthers wrote:how was it a CC? what do you mean
Arc CC NM.
And Arc was right.
Of course I am damn right. :roll:
In post 325, Pink Panthers wrote:
In post 324, VFP wrote:
In post 323, Pink Panthers wrote:how was it a CC? what do you mean
Arc CC NM.
And Arc was right.
Arc didn't counterclaim NM, they said they thought one oracle might not be oracle.

I don't get how you're reading this as though one of them had to be oracle and exactly one and hence it's a counterclaim. can you explain this

bearing in mind that scum!arc would
know
that NM was fakeclaiming because scum Arc would know there's 1 oracle (assuming Enchant is only oracle), so isn't being right there a scumtell when scum would know it's fake but town don't have as good of a reason to see it as fake?

-Hop
Are you even reading the game? So If i didn't counter claim, what do you think my claim was about?

I never claimed oracle. I claimed Town mystic after Not_Mafia confirmed his claim as a mystic.

And where the hell this is oracle role? I don't even see it in the setup. Why are we evening using a term that not even in the setup list.
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Post Post #363 (isolation #34) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:09 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 329, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 286, DkKoba wrote:
Not Mafia has been eliminated, they appear to have been:


Not_Mafia
Vanilla Townie


You are a Vanilla Townie.

You may utilize your vote in order to eliminate a player from the game every day.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated. Good Luck.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.


Night 1 begins now and will end in (expired on 2021-07-06 13:27:15). Please submit all relevant night actions if applicable. I may accelerate the night if all players submit "fast night".

Pink Panthers will be required to check in by the end of the night, whether or not they have night actions or else they will be replaced as they were due for a prod before night started.
Why did NM fakeclaim then? Wtf was he thinking? :facepalm:
He's a lousy mafia player. He trolls and affects the game for everyone. This is his playstyle regardless of his faction.
In post 331, T3 wrote:Am I the only one not seeing ActionDan obvtown?
I read him NULL. He made zero contributions so far.
In post 334, ActionDan wrote:Blink once and there's a quick-elim.

I'm vibing with Hop's posting;
although why is your partner still under the impression the bride confirmed your slot. Did you not reply to them in discord
?

I'm more concerned that Arc thought NM had to be lying in that position only due NM's refusal to name his N0 target, than of Arc lying originally even though as PP has said, there is scum advantage to that after the bride was used. The progression from 258 to 263 to 272 feels slightly off since the original reason for going after NM changes from a belief in the certainty NM was lying to a high chance he was. If scum, the certainty in thinking NM isn't mystic could come from an actress that got a VT suit off him.

All that said,

VOTE: VFP

Terrible NM vote, and equally bad posting today. I also don't believe he's that ignorant of the setup in general.
NM has no reason to not share about the N0 action especially when he was told that it would benefit the town. He rejected it. And that's how i know that claim wasn't fitting together.
In post 339, Enchant wrote:I believe Seamstress can't selftarget.


Arc very likely are Actress here.

Fakeclaiming before proposal and then "claiming true role" after with this excuse is what i expect from mafia who unlucky with visits and got simple VT suit which would give them away if proposal was made to them.
Very likely? What are you? A prophet. ? I am not even sure what visits you're referring to here. What is my connection with the bride proposal? Why are you trying to confuse everyone?
In post 343, Pink Panthers wrote:@Aa9, you are not allowed to tell another player to replace out.
You're not Mod. You're not allowed to lecture me here. Mod can send a PM about this if i am violating their rules.
In post 350, Pink Panthers wrote:VOTE: ArcAngel9

She called NM a liar for claim but made no CC.

Hoppy and I are in agreement about this.

Her being the best lim.
I couter claimed. You need to read the game and you're wrong.
In post 358, Enchant wrote:
In post 356, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 347, Pink Panthers wrote:
In post 345, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 318, Enchant wrote:
In post 316, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 315, Pink Panthers wrote:in the scenario of Arc!scum who would you read as more likely town/scum?

-Hop
Town- Gamma Faria, VFP based on interactions
Scum- NM based on mechanics
Why i am not Town in this situation?
Why NM mafia based on mechanics?
Conftowns excluded.

The theory I had in mind was that Arc fakeclaimed oracle and bussed NM as an attempt to convince town the setup was indeed seamstress/seamstress who disguised each other since it would have looked really bad for NM otherwise.
why are you still considering NM as possible scum?

-Hop
Scum only with Arc.

That's the only reason I can think of for why she would have done that as scum.
And I don't really believe her claim because I find it unlikely that the setup is {actress,seamstress}
Possible we have this.


We in Actress+Actress world, which include only one Oracle (me).

When NM claimed Oracle, mafia already assumed him as fake one, because of how this was ugly. It doesh't need to put any effort to actually claim Oracle, call NM liar (which is in fact truth) and push him to death, without so many suspicious. Even if plan somehow fails, there's no way to disapprove Arc-claim mechanically, as there's possible up to 3 Oracles, and also it gives town-points for "Oh she CCed him, why would mafia do that". It explains why Arc was so confident NM is lying.


Arc, who you suspect and why?
My top suspects are

Enchant
RockHopper

VOTE: Enchant
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Post Post #365 (isolation #35) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:11 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 360, Enchant wrote:Arc, why you targeted me?
Because you're scum.

Since day 1, you are doing everything but scum hunting.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:11 am

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In post 364, Pink Panthers wrote:Hop is one of my guys.

@Arc - so how exactly did you
catch
NM on a fakeclaim?

-Hop
Again, Read. It's fundamental. ISO my claim and read posts before.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #37) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:14 am

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In post 361, Hopkirk wrote:
Bride is obviously town. How are you not aware of this? and what is there to overlook here?
I don't recall why I didn't bold the 3 mystics, I thought I did but I did mention it in my post. It was not intentional.
To rephrase the first part - the bride being 100% meaning 100% accurate. Since you said our role was confirmed by the mod either you didn't realize how the bride worked at this point, or were pretending you didn't
Second part - Notmafia/i think others mentioned this yesterday as a sus point. bolding the 2 mystics as TMIing the setup which fits with being confident on NM being scum (i don't get the read)

Scum have a strong incentive to do what you did (claiming VT prior to the bride then claiming mystic to widen that pool) which is why you should care about the bride's action as town - because if you're town you should know mafia would do what you're currently doing to advance their interests

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you didn't counterclaim because you were clear that 3 oracles could exist. it's only a counterclaim if your roles can't exist together.i am clearly aware of what you claim was about
oracle is what Enchant wanted us to call mystic

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Please stick to the term "Mystic"

this is exactly what enchant doing since day 1, he is either talking about setup or change terms or accuse people scum without contributing anything to the game.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #38) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:04 am

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In post 380, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 359, ArcAngel9 wrote:Even what you're saying is true, noone actually cares. How are we supposed to know that you were talking to your hydra partner outside the game? I am not sure if that is even allowed in the game.
ngl this feels gross AF
it reminds me of when scum!Hopkirk tried to call a modkill on me for apparently using a trust tell on Not_Mafia
I don’t give a flying fuck what it reminds you off. You seem to be dancing against rules. Hence people can point at you. It has nothing to do with your faction or game. It’s purely you.

And btw trust tell is against site rules. You should be banned for it.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #39) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:07 am

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You think I am scum
Maybe I should troll like NM too
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Post Post #385 (isolation #40) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:11 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 382, T3 wrote:VOTE: Arc
Since you’re all decide to throw the game. Let me help you with that.

VOTE: ArcAngel9

Scum - you may celebrate
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Post Post #386 (isolation #41) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:13 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 384, T3 wrote:Yes, yes I do.
Keeping feeling good about it.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #42) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:29 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 387, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 381, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 380, Gamma Faria wrote:
In post 359, ArcAngel9 wrote:Even what you're saying is true, noone actually cares. How are we supposed to know that you were talking to your hydra partner outside the game? I am not sure if that is even allowed in the game.
ngl this feels gross AF
it reminds me of when scum!Hopkirk tried to call a modkill on me for apparently using a trust tell on Not_Mafia
I don’t give a flying fuck what it reminds you off. You seem to be dancing against rules. Hence people can point at you. It has nothing to do with your faction or game. It’s purely you.

And btw trust tell is against site rules. You should be banned for it.
I said I "apparently" used a trust tell. I don't consider what I did in the game I referenced a trust tell in the slightest. But yeah keep slinging whatever mud you can pal.
~Gamma
I can’t help how you feel. But apparent violation of a rule is close to violation. If you really have done something wrong , mods will handle it.
You are keeping dragging back into this unrelated topic again and again.

Why can’t you move on?
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Post Post #392 (isolation #43) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:34 am

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In post 391, ActionDan wrote:She could flip as any role. If she's town, that will be that, if she's scum someone is going to die. This isn't hard.
So you approve of my eliminate despite you are not sure if my alignment?

I expected more from you AD!!

How about you try eliminate scum?
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Post Post #395 (isolation #44) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:46 am

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Like I said I am moving on. I don’t want a waste another second into this conversation


My top scum reads
Rockhopper
Enchant
ActionDan
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Post Post #396 (isolation #45) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:47 am

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VOTE: RockHopper
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Post Post #398 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:28 am

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In post 397, Enchant wrote:We need to leash ArcAngel9 in case we going with my idea and not lynch her today.

Who you think could be seamstress if any?
Can you do anything else apart talking about setup?
All you do is talk about setup and branding yourself as pro-town.

What are scum reads and give reasons on why you think they are scum!
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Post Post #418 (isolation #47) » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:07 am

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In post 415, Enchant wrote:I targeted Rockhopper.

Arc?
So did i? But why did you target rock?
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Post Post #419 (isolation #48) » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:07 am

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In post 417, VFP wrote:Well, I'm town.
How?
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Post Post #427 (isolation #49) » Fri Jul 09, 2021 5:47 am

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In post 426, T3 wrote:VOTE: Rockhopper
this is your first meaning full post.

i agree.

VOTE: Rockhopper
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Post Post #440 (isolation #50) » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:05 am

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this game is officially being stalled. We should get going with Rock today.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #51) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:09 pm

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Pinkpanthers is creating unnecessary confusion. Please stop the madness.

Lets go with Rock..
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Post Post #471 (isolation #52) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:10 pm

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In post 470, Pink Panthers wrote:
In post 468, ArcAngel9 wrote:Pinkpanthers is creating unnecessary confusion. Please stop the madness.

Lets go with Rock..
???

Wtf are you even talking about? What “confusion”?
Idiot. which part of it you don't understand that NM is a troll. His fake claim mystic was his way of trolling in the game.
Stop discussion useless topics when it is evidently clear to everyone.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #53) » Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:37 pm

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I never send Pink is scum.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:26 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 475, Pink Panthers wrote:Please don't call my hydra partner an idiot.

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Then tell him to stop posting nonsense.

let me ask you again, why am I scum?

What is your read on Rockhopper?
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Post Post #478 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:26 am

Post by ArcAngel9 »

In post 475, Pink Panthers wrote:Please don't call my hydra partner an idiot.

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Then tell him to stop posting nonsense.

let me ask you again, why am I scum?

What is your read on Rockhopper?
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Post Post #482 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:57 am

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In post 479, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 477, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 475, Pink Panthers wrote:Please don't call my hydra partner an idiot.

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Then tell him to stop posting nonsense.

let me ask you again, why am I scum?

What is your read on Rockhopper?
Excuse me? I will most whatever tf I goddamned well please and if you insult me again, there WILL be consequences! :mad:
Where did i insult?
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Post Post #483 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:58 am

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And please post in your hydra account.
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Post Post #488 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:45 pm

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Your lies!
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Post Post #490 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:18 pm

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i had a purpose and you didn't have any.
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Post Post #492 (isolation #60) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:46 am

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why do you think scum would pick up on that? Do you believe the ream seamstress will try to push on you to prove you wrong?


who do you suspect then?
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Post Post #497 (isolation #61) » Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:33 am

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In post 493, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 482, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 479, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 477, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 475, Pink Panthers wrote:Please don't call my hydra partner an idiot.

-Hop
Then tell him to stop posting nonsense.

let me ask you again, why am I scum?

What is your read on Rockhopper?
Excuse me? I will most whatever tf I goddamned well please and if you insult me again, there WILL be consequences! :mad:
Where did i insult?
In post 483, ArcAngel9 wrote:And please post in your hydra account.
You called me an “idiot”, remember? :roll:
you actually took that as an insult? people use words like "fuck" and several other swear words on MS and you saying that i insulted you? I was just being harsh not meant to insult you. I am sorry if you're offended.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #62) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:55 am

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In post 556, ActionDan wrote:That just means one of dwlee/arc is scum with VFP

I am done ignoring your stupid lurk.

VOTE: ActionDan
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Post Post #594 (isolation #63) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:56 am

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In post 566, VFP wrote:Mechanically yes? I think.
Logically no.
what is your logic?
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Post Post #617 (isolation #64) » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:05 pm

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Prod :(

this game is stalled.

T3 whats your take on ActionDan
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Post Post #623 (isolation #65) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:44 am

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In post 620, Dwlee99 wrote:If your slot flips town this game is solved pretty much
Explian this
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Post Post #628 (isolation #66) » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:44 pm

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In post 625, Dwlee99 wrote:Arc is confscum to me because of setup reasons according to the conftown and the "conftown" that people trust. Arc is voting Dan so I should vote VFP, but if VFP is town then Dan is scum with arc as partner.
this is scum. Because i am mystic and according to your logic if you're also mystic there is no scope for the other.

Hence, you're the scum!!

VOTE: Dwlee
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Post Post #645 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:27 am

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trying to lynch the mystic who counterclaimed over fake claim Dwlee/Enchant??

Lynch Dwlee, please. This is bad for the town.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:13 pm

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psyche - why do you think i am scum with dwlee?

do you not believe my claim?
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Post Post #672 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:42 pm

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did you skip my response to why i lied about it?
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Post Post #705 (isolation #70) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:41 pm

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PP and T3 is town

Which means there is one scum between Dwlee and Psyche. This is confirmed.
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Post Post #708 (isolation #71) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:15 pm

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In post 706, Pink Panthers wrote:
In post 704, ActionDan wrote:The only observation I can make about that is that similar posts were made on pages 14-15 by VFP concerning NM and Arc did not seem to pay them the same attention you received. A mitigating factor is that because that discussion was earlier, perhaps it had more relevancy then (though I have found every post about NM's alignment postmortem to not be important).

I am going to sleep soon. Relying on plurality at 6p is a little spooky, though I don't see how any scum team at the moment could manipulate that drastically in their favor while T3 votes Arc. I don't know if I'll be able to post tomorrow before, but if I am it's going to be phone posting and not at my full capacity.

PP I know you've given a couple quick reads but I still am not sure what your elimination preferences are atm. It's looking like Arc one way or another if you remain non-committal to anyone else whether that be Psyche/me/Dwlee
I think you’re town. I honestly don’t know. Hoppy thinks this is Arc’s town meta and I don’t completely understand the revealed bride thing. What is your take on that?
Anyone who ever played with me can tell i am town. I am super easy to read. My scum games are very rough.

I lie about my role most the time because i don't believe in giving my role away quickly because i always think scum would try to rolefish.
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Post Post #711 (isolation #72) » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:00 pm

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but i not am scum. that makes dwlee and you mostly likely scum.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #73) » Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:50 pm

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lynching me was a bad idea.

dwlee stole my identity which is why I was against role claims. this town was very bad!
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