Micro 877: Liars and Millers

[Psyche]

Micro 877
Liars and Millers

Modded and Designed by Psyche

Playerlist

OkaPoka
CheekyTeeky
Saudade
northsidegal
Pine
the worst
AzoriusSenate
Skygazer
Ircher

Spoiler: Alive

OkaPoka
CheekyTeeky
Saudade
northsidegal
Pine
the worst
AzoriusSenate
Skygazer
Ircher

Spoiler: Dead

My grandpa since 2002.

Votecounts and Happenings

Spoiler:

Votecount 1.1

[Psyche]

1. General Rules
   
   
2. As always, the Forum Rules and Guidelines apply. I’m going to assume you’ve read these, so I’m not going to repeat them.
   (If you’re unsure whether something you’re going to do is breaking these rules, ask me beforehand.)
   
3. Don’t make any posts that may even remotely look like mod communication. If I edit a post, I’ll sign it.
   
4. The only places outside of this thread you are permitted to talk about this game are in mod-provided quicktopics.
   
5. Don’t quote private mod communication – this includes but is not limited to role PMs, night actions and anything posted in a quicktopic. You may
   paraphrase
   these things, however.
   
6. If you’re unsure whether something you post could count against the “playing to your wincon” rule, think about how you would perceive it if someone else made the same post.
   
7. Personal remarks and insults are not welcome at all. There is no problem with criticising how others play
   in this game
   , but as soon it goes beyond that line there will be one warning before I start force-replacing.
   
8. If someone is modkilled, their alignment will change to “neutral survivor” and there will be no chance of them winning the game, even if their original faction does so.
   
9. I reserve the right to change rules at any time, including while the game is ongoing, although there will be warning in-thread if this happens.
   
   
   
   Activity Rules
   
   
10. If a player does not post in the game thread for over 48 hours, they will be prodded. After this prod, they are given a 24 hour grace period to make a post – otherwise I will start searching for a replacement.
    
11. I will keep track of the number of prods given to each player. If a player has received three or more prods, I reserve the right to search for their replacement if their activity does not pick up.
    
12. Game days will be at most 10 days long, unless a replacement is required within the last 48 hours of a game day.
    
13. Game nights will last 48 hours.
    
    
    
    Voting Rules
    
    
14. When making votes, please use the vote or bold tags. On the other hand, if it looks vaguely like a vote, I'll count it.
    
15. Unvoting before voting again is not compulsory.
    
16. If one player receives a majority (at least 51%) of votes, they are that day’s lynch and any further voting/unvoting will be futile.
    (Players - including the lynchee - may still comment after majority has been reached and until the mod locks the thread.)
    
17. If a majority of votes is not reached before deadline, there will be no lynch for that day.
    
18. Dead players may make one “bah” post after their death. This may not contain any game relevant information. Once the mod has declared the game over, anybody may start talking in thread again.
    
    
    
    Setup Rules
    
    
19. This game has an Open Setup; setup details will be posted here and the game moderator will answer any reasonable, basic questions players may have about its design.
    
20. This game has a day start.
    
21. All actions will be resolved using the Natural Action Resolution system.
    
22. All flavor is provided purely for entertainment purposes only and has no bearing or relation to the game.
    
23. Any group permitted to communicate privately throughout the game will do so in Private Threads and will be able to do so during the Day
    and
    Night.

Setup Design

1 Town Cop
3 Vanilla Townies
3 Town Millers
1 Mafia Godfather
1 Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Role PMs

Welcome, [Player], you are a

Town Cop

.

Each night phase, you may target one player in the game to investigate them. At the end of the Night, you will receive a result of "Town" or "Mafia".

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm via PM. Game Thread link.

Welcome, [Player], you are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no abilities other than your voice and your vote.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm via PM. Game Thread link.

Welcome, [Player], you are a

Town Miller

.

If a Cop investigates you, they will receive a result of "Mafia".

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm via PM. Game Thread link.

Welcome, [Player], you are a

Mafia Godfather

.

If a Cop investigates you, they will receive a result of "Town".
You share a Private Topic with your fellow scum; [names].
You have a factional night-kill meaning that each night one of you may night-kill a player.

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm via PM. Game Thread link.

Welcome, [Player], you are a

Mafia Goon

.

You share a Private Topic with your fellow scum; [names].
You have a factional night-kill meaning that each night one of you may night-kill a player.

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm via PM. Game Thread link.

[Psyche]

Thanks very much for signing up for this game. I hope it proves enjoyable for you.

Role PMs are out. Please confirm your receipt thereof by PM. Once I have enough confirms, I'll start the game.

[Psyche]

Day 1 begins.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 7pm EST on 6/22/2019

.

[Psyche]

Votecount

OkaPoka:
Saudade: Ircher,
northsidegal: AzoriusSenate,
Pine:
the worst: CheekyTeeky
AzoriusSenate:
Skygazer: OkaPoka, Saudade
Ircher: northsidegal

Not Voting: Pine, the worst, Skygazer,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 will end on June 21 at 7pm EST.

This votecount is only psyche-certified if it goes unedited for a full five minutes.

[Psyche]

Votecount

OkaPoka: Ircher,
Saudade:
northsidegal: AzoriusSenate, CheekyTeeky, Skygazer
Pine:
the worst:
AzoriusSenate:
Skygazer:
Ircher: northsidegal, OkaPoka

Not Voting: Pine, the worst, Saudade

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 will end on June 21 at 7pm EST.

This votecount is only psyche-certified if it goes unedited for a full five minutes.

[Psyche]

Votecount

OkaPoka: Ircher,
Saudade:
northsidegal: AzoriusSenate, Skygazer
Pine:
the worst:
AzoriusSenate:
Skygazer: Saudade
Ircher: northsidegal, OkaPoka,

Not Voting: Pine, the worst, CheekyTeeky,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 will end on June 21 at 7pm EST.

Pine's getting a prod.

[Psyche]

lemme check the votes rq

Votecount

OkaPoka:
Saudade: Ircher
northsidegal:
Pine:
the worst:
AzoriusSenate: Skygazer
Skygazer: AzoriusSenate, OkaPoka, CheekyTeeky, the worst,
Ircher: northsidegal,

Not Voting: Pine, Saudade,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 will end on June 21 at 7pm EST.

[Psyche]

Since no one reacted to saudade's posts on 47 as if they were votes and all signs from an investigation suggest he didn't mean them to be treated that way, I'm not counting them as a hammer. But I want to underscore that my rule is to interpret posts that look enough like votes

as

votes, even if the formatting isn't perfect. This is ya'll's one warning: from here out that I'm not going deviate from that principle. There's too much room for ambiguity and unhealthy play patterns otherwise.

[Psyche]

Prodding northsidegal btw

[Psyche]

Votecount

OkaPoka: the worst,
Saudade: Ircher
northsidegal:
Pine:
the worst: CheekyTeeky,
AzoriusSenate:
Skygazer: OkaPoka, Saudade, AzoriusSenate, Skygazer
Ircher: northsidegal,

Not Voting: Pine,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 will end on June 21 at 7pm EST.

god i hope this is accurate i did doublecheck though

[Psyche]

Votecount

OkaPoka: the worst,
Saudade: Ircher
northsidegal:
Pine:
the worst: CheekyTeeky,
AzoriusSenate:
Skygazer: OkaPoka, Saudade, AzoriusSenate, Skygazer
Ircher: northsidegal,

Not Voting: Pine,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 will end on June 21 at 7pm EST.

[Psyche]

would you believe me if i told you guys i wrote a votecount bot better than all the other votecount bots but ive been too lazy to use it

[Psyche]

im in a car for a while but ill make a votecount happen anyway at this post#

[Psyche]

Votecount

OkaPoka: the worst, Ircher, Skygazer, CheekyTeeky, AzoriusSenate,
Saudade:
northsidegal:
Pine:
the worst:
AzoriusSenate:
Skygazer: OkaPoka, Saudade,
Ircher: northsidegal,

Not Voting: Pine,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 will end on June 21 at 7pm EST.

OkaPoka has been lynched. He was a Mafia Godfather.
It is now Night 1. Night 1 will end on June 18 at 7pm EST.

northsidegal will be replaced if she doesn't pick up her prod within 24 hours of the time I sent it.

Pine's getting another (his third) prod at the very start of tomorrow since prod dodges are weak shit.

[Psyche]

replacing northsidegal
ending the night 24h after that works out

EDIT:
notes replaces northsidegal

EDIT:
notes got banned, looking for new northsidegal replacement

EDIT:
iconeum replaces northsidegal
deadline at regular time

[Psyche]

Pine has been killed! He was a Vanilla Townie.

It's now Day 2. Deadline is June 28 at 9pm.

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

[Psyche]

sry guys i daysleep like a loser
vc soonn

[Psyche]

wow skygazer is a girl how'd i miss that

[Psyche]

and the worst is a guy?!?!?

[Psyche]

why doesn't skygazer make the final post she knows her role

[Psyche]

That does it everyone. I'm gonna go PM awestfie that setup information she not at all suspiciously asked for right before notes replaced it.

[Psyche]

That does it everyone. I'm gonna go PM awestfie that setup information she not at all suspiciously asked for right before notes replaced it.

kind of scary realizing my laziness might have saved the game

[Psyche]

Hi, could I

get spoilers/join the spoiler thread

for Micro 877? This is for statistical purposes.

I'm trying to get side-wide statistics for things such as roles used, modifiers used, win percentages per roles, alignments win percentages for setups, mislynch rate for things such as D1/LYLO/MYLO, etc. As well as each individual player's win percentages as both alignments for full transparency. All of these statistics will be made available to the site once I've got enough data.

The purposes of this is to help create more balanced setups and to open up more options. Having this data available should be helpful in both setup creation and changing up the current's site meta. As well as give players the option to see their personal win percentages for those who haven't been keeping track of it all these years.

Thanks,
awestfie.

None of those purposes listed seem to explain why you'd need the info now and not just after the game is over.

By the way, I've shared some very detailed data in the Computational Mafia thread that you should find useful. Whether you do or not, it might be a great base to collaborate w/ other site members who've worked on similar projects.

Because it's easier to do in real-time with the approach I'm taking as opposed to going through every game after the fact. Not every mod updates the OP or even lists the roles in the OP after a flip (some don't even give a setup summary at the end of the game). It's simply easier to do it this way and I've had no issue in this past taking this approach (if anything, it's saved me a ton of time).

secretly i barely remembered who the cop was and at that point was too afraid to ask

[Psyche]

Skygazer has been lynched. She was a Mafia Goon.

The town wins! Flawless victory.

Votecount here eventually.

[Psyche]

meh ive got hundreds or thousands of games coded years after their completion awestfie can chill

[Psyche]

I'm unhappy with this setup. If I were to do it again I'd certainly exclude the cop (IC). It's not even the "lynch one scum and you clear 3 town" i hate; it's the scum having so few viable positions they can bullshit having

i do think the setup achieved my goal of energizing D1 and eliminating the awkward RVS start that defines most games. but perhaps it's energy

after

D1 that's more pressing to game design these days than before.

[Psyche]

Intuition is that setups have to be a bit townsided for town winrates to actually be 50%. Maybe that's an old impression of the site meta though.

[Psyche]

interesting...
mafia has felt easier lately i guess

[Psyche]

Oh right, official details:

OkaPoka - Mafia Godfather
CheekyTeeky - Town Cop
Saudade - Miller
northsidegal - Miller
Pine - VT
the worst - Miller
AzoriusSenate - VT
Skygazer - Mafia Goon
Ircher - VT

[Psyche]

viewtopic.php?f=90&t=80003&p=11014325#p11014325

[Psyche]

it's a representation of my sloven nature