C9++

[Elmo]

wtf an innocent child is not a treestump?

[Elmo]

/in

[Elmo]

It's actually pretty much as complicated as it looks. There's, like, several thousand possible setups.

[Elmo]

I believe there are 279,936 possible setups, not equally likely. I don't know how to even try and summarise that.

About the only 'interesting' thing is that there's a 50% chance of a serial killer.

[Elmo]

What's the deadline ruling? (i.e. most votes or No Lynch? how are ties resolved?)

[Elmo]

vote hohum

[Elmo]

hey my vote worked!

vote youngminii

[Elmo]

And at this point we can mark KittyMo off as obvtown :V

[Elmo]

BM: Relative to you? likely everyone

@ @

[Elmo]

unvote vote Jeffcole1

[Elmo]

Kitoari: No better info after ~8 minutes of day 1 in a marathon game? Actually we're already like halfway to deadline X_X

[Elmo]

I am also happy with my vote. Would not mind jumping on the bird wagon though.

Why are you happy with your vote when it's entirely random as opposed to something that might catch scum?

Also I'm basically QFTing everything Kitty says at this point, which is nice, but especially wrt Bird vs. active lurkers. We have too many people online and posting little/fluff in a speed game, which is rly bad

[Elmo]

Rhinox xD

I kind of like Kitoari's vote but maybe I'm just being biased.

Okay, seriously? This is my first Marathon Game, and I just want to have fun. Is that a problem?

idk what this refers to

You admit you're willing to blindly follow a wagon? Die scum die.

Is there some reason her vote is worse than mine when she attacked you before I did?

[Elmo]

I have a hunch. Your posts just seem.. Scummy? I don't believe Jeff is scum at all. I don't see why there's a wagon formed on him so quickly (well barring the obvious fact that it's a marathon game).

Well, that's a big contirbutor; there's no much better way that I know of to get stuff going quickly, which is imperative in a marathon game. Most people wagon really hard and fast, or atleast I do. Also, a purely random lynch > No Lynch obv. This post seems townish to me.

[Elmo]

unvote vote bird

[Elmo]

young, if I'm scunm what part of that do you think I'd do differently as town?

[Elmo]

OH GODAMNIT

[Elmo]

so am I town for viciously wagoning the mafia RB please?

vote battle mage

[Elmo]

A bus wouldnt be completely unheard of would it?

you did basically everything physically possible to deflect from that wagon, die asap please

[Elmo]

reconfirm previous post based on new jeff flip.

your hypothesis being what exactly? that I pressed jeff's lynch on day 1 for basically no reason?

[Elmo]

it's pretty hard to be subtle in a marathon game... but, eh. it's worth thinking about?

how long 'till deadline?

[Elmo]

I'm not set on a BM lynch but it needs consideration

[Elmo]

Kitoari, please explain flipping back and forth between jeff and bird wagons?

[Elmo]

BM: What caused you to make up your scum list D1? What would change about it now that there is discussion instead of random wagons?

five star question

[Elmo]

if you're town this is really really not making the idea of killing you less appealing

[Elmo]

seriously lynch anyone but the claimed vig when jeff is a good vig shot please :\

[Elmo]

VOTE NOT THE VIG

[Elmo]

unvote vote youngminii

argh

[Elmo]

merp, let's hope he was lying for some bizarre reason

[Elmo]

VIG TAKE YOUR TIME AND THINK BUT STRONGLY CONSIDER SHOOT BM TONIGHT PLZ

[Elmo]

intressant

[Elmo]

odd kills.

Kitoari, thought process behind shooting kitty? quickly, now

[Elmo]

3 mafia + SK is possible, 4 mafia is not possible if I'm reading it correctly

[Elmo]

kitoari is a bad lynch, I tihnk, because a) I don't have any particular reason to think he's SK b) 1 mafia, 1 townie, SK endgame is better than getting endgamed today

[Elmo]

assuming 3 mafia, the last remaining mafioso can be goon or spy and is highly likely goon

[Elmo]

rhinox say stuff

[Elmo]

rhinox is actually pretty bad around the jeff wagon on d1 as well.

the thing is I'm not sure it's good to leave me alive if BM were mafia? hrumph.

[Elmo]

argh. gandalf replaced a lurker and hasn't done much / anything.

rhinox, why do you trust BM?

anyone, halp

[Elmo]

how does no lynching help at all?

[Elmo]

kito, any input on scum would be really nice, since you're probably the most confirmed-non-mafia person right now.

[Elmo]

people alive:

Elmo - loveable town
Kitoari - claimed vig, dead mafia x2

Battle Mage - ?

Rhinox
danakillsu -> gandalf

so go iso rhonix / BM see what you think. but mostly rhinox. basically get up to date nao.

also FIVE MINUTES PEOPLE

[Elmo]

vote: bird

Alternate wagon

so what was bad about the jeff wagon? you propose an alternative wagon without any criticism or even comment on the prime wagon right now. zuh?

[Elmo]

TWO MINUTES

[Elmo]

vote rhinox

[Elmo]

thought town could benefit from a second wagon alternative.

yes but why?

[Elmo]

hi.

gandalf, now would be a really nice time to start doing stuff.

[Elmo]

gandalf, seriously, you replaced in like 45 mins ago and you've made 5 posts. you've got pretty much 2 people max to look at, let's go.

[Elmo]

Vanilla claim reads good.

BM, can you elaborate on this?

gandalf: we need time to talk over, you have 14 minutes until deadline.

[Elmo]

Elmo and you are both probably town. Miniyoung is scum, and i'm not really sure on Kitty.

BM, can you also state why you had these reads, especially kitty?

[Elmo]

sup town

[Elmo]

I do think that the one thing you can't take issue with is the amount that BM contributed relative to you, gandolf. what do you think contribution counts for?
what do you mean by bussing?

[Elmo]

oh, I think I see what you mean. erp

[Elmo]

that's not an argument because I don't know he's scum. make an argument that works from my point of view.

[Elmo]

vote gandalf5166

[Elmo]

I hate lurkers

[Elmo]

gg

[Elmo]

I think that's twice in this game I've been pushing for scum lynch full steam ahead and then changed my mind :\

[Elmo]

wp kitty imo

[Elmo]

well played!

[Elmo]

man, rhinox / BM / gandalf felt like such a coinflip. ironically, I went back and looked and BM started pressing bird's lynch before the wagon on jeff started, so I somewhat discounted that, I think maybe the way he continued it was scummy, but the thing is I thought exactly the same thing about jeff's vanilla claim. meh, if I'd have got that right then this woulda gone a bit differently, I need to stop WIFOMing myself over stuff like that...

idk about kitty's bussing, fooled me in this environment, helped by something random on d1. but yea, nice. gg!

[Elmo]

Diginovas Cop breadcrumb was fatal though. Had he not claimed, he could have reeled off some useful results while we dealt with Kito and Elmo etc.

I didn't catch it but I felt the mafia was getting more than their fare share of power role kills. nice job on picking that up, someone!

[Elmo]

Yeah, Jeff probably looks like he played much worse than he actually did. Day 1 in this sorta game has a pretty heavy luck element to it. Part of the reason I switched vote was that I kind of expect that kinda thing to end in a mislynch more often than not, but oh well.

I kinda like the setup, I think it's somewhat town leaning but marathon day makes it harder in a number of ways, heh.

Kito, congrats on 100% vig accuracy.

This, I overlooked it because I thought it was obvious, but you were really damn good

BM was obvscum, especially around D3.

Why? (On d4?)

I would've fired as vig N3 myself. You would've bypassed LyLo in that case.

I think you can make arguments either way, I guess. One thing with marathon day is that you have no time to do setup analysis which might help a lot in a normal-speed game.

Thanks all for putting up with a game I had to jump through a lot of gates and hurdles to get to you. I'm sure you realized the battered state of affairs, but I hope you enjoyed it and the setup.

I thought you did pretty good, modding marathon games is hard. Thank for modding!