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O my~ a fast paced game...
Not jester.
I didn't like the way Greasy Spot delayed to answer questions toward him.
Gladly will join the wagon on him.
Meanwhile,vote: hasdgfas. Tongue tied in this game?
About tyhess, I can see why if tyhess is a scum, the more he recruit the more dangerous he will be.
About Iammars, I felt that was just an idiocy slipped.-
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Because you sensed his evil tone...? O_oBattle Mage wrote:
Why does Mithwolfcrier wrote:(Hey I can finally get on) after reading this whole thing Mith seems very scummy but I am reluctent to vote..seem very scummy?
Why are youreluctantto vote?
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Because you feared his evil counter..? o_O
Lol! j/k-
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Well I can see from the jester side to win as soon as possible too (with not revealing oneself as the jester) by just trying to behave normally-neutral-enough (lol!) on Day 1 to survive the lynch and to avoid the 1st NK, and 'home free' on Day 2 by behaving scummy enough to get the attention for a lynch.-
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I'm still new with this PR thing. And I think I get what Meme's direction at with the A word thought.
Although hasdgfas's Random Power maybe a bad thing for town, but I still prefer he's able to discuss (express himself) normally than hides behind his PR.
I'll wait for others to sound their opinion regarding this A word for more revelation.-
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His reason voting GS was overabundance IMHO, seems fake.Monkey wrote:
You lied earlier, what makes you think you'll be believed now?Greasy Spot wrote:I AM THE JESTER!!
Vote: Greasy Spot, b/c:
1. He lied
2. He requested it, and
3. I think that there's more then enough material that been covered here on the 1st day.
That places Greasy Spot at L-2 btw. Keeping him around for endgame just isn't very appealing to me atm, and if he really is the jester then that's one less party to compete for 1st place with.Vote: Monkey.-
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Did you really believed if the person he's voting for gets lynched, on the next day he could still give the excuse that he wasn't done reading at all? Insane indeed.tyhess wrote:I actaully don't think monkey's idea is to far fetched...all sacastro would have to do is keep his vote there and if something big turns up where the person he's voting for gets waggoned and lynched, he can bide his time and say that he wasn't done reading yet and effectively hammered one guy and contributed without giving info on another.
Ehh, I really thought that we voted the scum on day 1 .Monkey wrote:I mean we're not in day 1 anymore randomly voting people.-
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Hm, I still prefer a Monkey lynch.Sarcastro wrote:In conclusion, let's lynch RW. Also, Monkey is probably just newbie-town, but he's still really annoying me right now.
Not sure with RW, noob-scum or noob-town.
Still suspecting wolfcrier, and still in reckoning progress of a wolfcrier-jester probability too.
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<3MeMe wrote:Though I'm not interested in switching my vote from Quickben (who's truly lurking -- posting elsewhere while saying he'll get to us "asap" 5 days ago), Holy's starting to look rather questionable to me. Her last few posts kind of confused me so I did a pull of all her posts -- they're kind of a study in blend.
When did it starts, MeMe?
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I'll take it... ;_;PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Holy
I feel that you would be a strong candidate for HD 4
Wow, you must have overlooked like one third of the town in that case -.-;RossWilliam wrote:and Holy, because you don't post much and don't say much when you do. It's that simple.
I'm supporting an RW lynch now, I just need the Vote Count first.
And I still haven't re-read wolfcrier, maybe tomorrow.-
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^Wow, a responsive mod!
Lol, kidding ^.^
Unvote, Vote: RossWilliam.
I hate duties..., seems hard. No, but thank you ^_^PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Sorry Holy
RossWilliams already took the job.
How about HD#6 for you?
HD6: Ridiculously hot female distraction used to boost ratings among male teens.Dutiesare to look good andconstantlyneed help.-
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1. I definitely think you were only following MeMe with not the same reason as hers.
2. Your play screams you're a noob, I already state my RW concerns somewhere, whether you are the scum-noob or town-noob that made me uncertain until your last few comments and that's not exactly because of your call on me.-
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Unvote. Vote: Monkey.
Concerning farside, I prefer giving her one more chance to convince us of her innocence after we lynch Monkey.
I'm opposing this. He's voting and contributing, we're able to see his pattern to analyze whether he's scum or not.tyhess wrote:Does anyone have a problem with me recruiting Sarcastro tonight? I would like everyone's opinion on that.
I can see with your point about Iammars for the candidate, that's why I'm really curious for farside's choosy PBPA, she said that I and also MeMe aren't contributing, i.e. lurking but said nothing about Iammars, which I think is the one who actually kind of lurking.Talitha wrote:I'd prefer you recruit someone who isn't voting. Like Iammars.
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BeepBeep: I was biased by wolfcrier's posts though, so when I read her now, I still consider she's might be jester.al_kohaulec wrote:Holy, (and anybody else who happens to log on in the next few minutes), what are your current thoughts on Bx2 and Monkey?
Monkey: I don't think he's following the game well. His vote and his comments lately showed that indication more.-
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I don't think this game is so flavorful and need to have 2 doctors able to save at night at the same time, I'm not ignoring the possibility of a backup doctor in large game, but it's more likely there's a doc and a nurse than 2 docs since the beginning.farside22 wrote:I'm not sure why Thesp would have 2 doctors. I never went to Thesp game before or looked anything up, but that's just my word and I had no clue another doctor would be out there.
Since there is little I can say in my defense on this matter I would look at Holy and Pooky after my lynch. Holy sent my scum radar off with her lack of comments and quick vote.
For those saying the mafia didn't kill me last night, why would they when Monkey came up doctor. I make a perfect target for today. You can say WIFOM all you want, but that is what I'm reading from some people and why they are voting against me.
Are you trying shifting suspicion to me, there? ~.^-
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^Pooky said 2 people that need to confess.
Nope, that's why I think she's lying and voted her.Beep! Beep! wrote:
Both claimed Doctors claimed Star Trek's McCoy. There is no indication that either is a backup, or that one is a nurse.Holy wrote:I don't think this game is so flavorful and need to have 2 doctors able to save at night at the same time, I'm not ignoring the possibility of a backup doctor in large game, but it's more likely there's a doc and a nurse than 2 docs since the beginning.
Are you trying shifting suspicion to me, there? ~.^
Both claims are for full Doctors, same character, same card.
Do you believe the game has two full powered Doctor McCoy's?
I don't believe the theory that the scum decided not to kill doc to let her lynched the next day. That only lead for two possible unsuccessful kill two nights in a row for the scum, which is silly.-
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^hm, I was thinking for the probability of tonight too, if she's really the doc and we leave her peacefully today, the scum will deal with a possibility of unsuccessful kill two nights in a row, with last night.
Yes, I was wrong for mixing it up with tonight possibility too.
Overall, the theory she's the doc that left alive by the scum is a silly theory. She lied, I guess.-
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I guess farside is kind of nervous, she's keep saying it 3, lol.
Well, I'm quite curious here, Pooky.
Regarding PJ's conversation with Beep!Beep!, I should say Beep's scumscore isn't quite balanced to me because it only looks from the voting patterns, on the other side, Beep kind of fair to admit it and still considering other aspects too (my assumption from watching his play), I also noticed that Beep isn't voting his top blindly just because his scum scores says so.-
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Beep! Beep! wrote:Farside names a lot of players (about half the living players on that day, which is why I wanted half the living players today). A couple of recurring players (for no apparent reason) are MeMe and Holy. These two players should be watched, along with Ross William - if farside turns out to be scum.
@BeepBeep & Farside: I'm not fond of how both of you try to shifting suspicions to me for something that not happened yet, if both of you questioned me, just assault me directly please. Although I'm quite sure Farside is scum and BeepBeep might be a jester that finally decides to help us hunting scum.farside22 wrote:Look at beep, beep tomorrow folks. After my lynch and the fact that I will come up as Doctor should be enough. Oh and don't forget about Holy either.
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Hm, I didn't believe with crappy theory that scum will let a doc alive last night, that's why if you're still alive today that means you're saved by the doc, or the scum was roleblocked, or simply that because you're teh scum.farside22 wrote:By the way this is what irked me about Holy the most is what she stated yesterday.
This is what started out with if she is still alive to beep beep using that for his main arguement.Holy wrote:Hm, if tomorrow our doc claimer is staying alive, then I will think further about her case. For now, I'll support an RW lynch or Monkey lynch, still.
unvote: Vote Holy
Either one, but both look scummie to me.
But it turns out Monkey was a doc, and I don't think we have two full doc from the start though, so my conclusion you're likely a lying scum. There's 3 deaths, so I doubt, if there's a roleblocker, that the roleblock was succeed, and I doubt for the protection possibility, the doc was dead obviously.
About yesterday lynch, your wishy-washy PBPA did raise my suspicion and then you followed the day with claiming doc, I don't have any idea whether you're telling the truth or not yesterday, so I think the wise play for yesterday was back to my main suspects, which is RW and Monkey.-
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BeepBeep predecessor was wolfcrier, if you read wolfcrier's posts, you'll found that he was saying things with a faint contradictory almost on his every post, like saying that he found someone was scummy but refuse to vote him at the same time. That kind of action seems like asking to be lynch for me.curiouskarmadog wrote:Holy, why do you feel that Beep Beep could be the jester?
Which of my opinions that contrary to logic or common sense?Beep! Beep! wrote:
I have an inkling that the Jester might be you, as you seem to hold many opinions contrary to logic, common sense, or going straight against the grain of the majority thinking in the game.curiouskarmadog wrote:Holy, why do you feel that Beep Beep could be the jester?-
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There's no strategic reason, I just think we possibly got a scum here.Beep! Beep! wrote:
Is there a strategic reason for you to hold you vote right now?Holy wrote: Although I'm quite sure Farside is scum
Yup, your predecessor was so jester-ish. And the more you scumhunt, the more enemy you got, so maybe you'll got your lynch, although I don't think I will participate.Beep! Beep! wrote:
Were my predecessors Jester-ish? Is there not a more efficient way to have oneself lynched, than to hunt scum? But thank you for recognizing that I am hunting scum.Holy wrote: BeepBeep might be a jester that finally decides to help us hunting scum.-
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Ooops, sorry, apparently you directed it to CKD.Holy wrote:
Which of my opinions that contrary to logic or common sense?Beep! Beep! wrote:
I have an inkling that the Jester might be you, as you seem to hold many opinions contrary to logic, common sense, or going straight against the grain of the majority thinking in the game.curiouskarmadog wrote:Holy, why do you feel that Beep Beep could be the jester?
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I know nothing about the cards before the game started.curiouskarmadog wrote:
care to address the rest of my post?Beep! Beep! wrote:
I want to do a good job. Later today.curiouskarmadog wrote:Beep, were is that scum list you said you would post?
but you feel like Beep is making perfect sense? if not, what dont you agree with in reference to anything he has been saying lately (note: both of you are push for farside's lynch)...also, Holy did you know about the game cards before the game started?Holy wrote:
BeepBeep predecessor was wolfcrier, if you read wolfcrier's posts, you'll found that he was saying things with a faint contradictory almost on his every post, like saying that he found someone was scummy but refuse to vote him at the same time. That kind of action seems like asking to be lynch for me.curiouskarmadog wrote:Holy, why do you feel that Beep Beep could be the jester?
She listed her scum with scum scores... Umm, no, I don't think she's making perfect sense, but I must admit, her efforts analyzing this town residents are quite good, at the same time she poked almost everyone with it though.
Why should I agree with Beep? I don't think I understand your question. Let me say this once again, with 3 deaths last night, dead doc, and farside's wishy-washy PBPA, and the fact she survived the night, simply, I think she might be scum.
Yeah, right, are you asking me or just want to stating me as either (a) or (b), there?farside22 wrote:Side note for Holy. You were the one who brought up the day before me being alive would make you think more about me. Did that not click that either (a) you look scummie for said comment or (b) giving something to the scum to use for the next day lynch? Just curious.
Because it never cross my mind if scum would let a doc live for another day, so if you were telling the truth about your claim, I don't think there will be tomorrow for you. But if you survived the next day, there's possibility scum was roleblocked, plus if this morning we deal with no death or only one death, I might consider you were telling the truth and won't vote you, but the fact is, we deal with 3 deaths this morning and we discovered a doc, i.e. Monkey.-
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Hm, I noticed that opportunism too, "plan bad = MeMe scum" votes. From your plan, I think, directing vig or RB is bad plan, but I can see your point regarding chaos between likely jester or just scum pretending jester, all in all, I don't think scum will follow the plan without victimize the innocents, or like MoS' said.MeMe wrote:I smell opportunism in the "plan bad = MeMe scum" votes, possibly even an attempt to save farside (for tomorrow? because she's a partner?).
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While I, prefer lynching whom-who-looks-all-over-like-scum over the-obviously-provoking-jester or likely-townsperson-without-worries, and that's how I am going to play.petroleumjelly wrote:Ido not consider the jester "winning" equivalent to the town "losing" when the game continues. If the town gets second, I willnotbe placing it as a "loss" in my statistics.I would rather lynch the Jester than a townsperson, when it comes right down to it, and that's how I am going to play.
Lol! It's because I honestly think he is. If you want to vote him, please feel free to do it, but I won't join the bandwagon though.petroleumjelly wrote:Holy has been implicitly defending wolfcrier/Beep! Beep! all game on the basis of "gee, it looks like he is the jester".
Hmm, I don't think Pooky's attempts to trap scum looks like a scum-plan, he seemed throwing it without nothing to lose feel and hopefully feel that we might bust a sweating-scum-that-worries slipped. And with his ways when launching it, it didn't smell came from scum.petroleumjelly wrote:I want the three of these players toall comment on each other. Pooky needs to comment on Beep! Beep! and Holy; Beep! Beep! needs to comment on Pooky and Holy; and Holy needs to comment on Beep! Beep! and Pooky.
While your recent analysis, smell like it.
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QUACK OR NOT, you did claim a doc, and you survived.farside22 wrote:Lets see if people read things I say.
I'm tired of being ignored and I want to help with the confusion. So I will say Beep Beep you are trying hard to lynch a claimed doctor on WIFOM logic. Mafia could be using that same tactic and it is completely easy to do with Monkey dead and coming up doctor.
Now that said I am a Quack Doctor. I wasn't a 100% sure day one since I replaced a person and I wasn't going to say anything about it figuring I would get lynched saying who CB actually targeted and I wanted to stay alive long enough to understand who was scum, who was jester and who was town. I'm not getting anywhere with anyone so it doesn't matter. Night one CB targeted Mith, Mith died. Night two I targeted Sacrostro because (a) I thought him Jester and if he wasn't Jester he was scummie as hell and wanted to see if the Quack Doctor theory I had was right. Well he died and was shown as a townie. I only say this because well people keep ignoring me execpt to say I'm scummie or to listen to crap-pot Beep beep for some assign reason I have yet to understand. Plus it helps lesson the confusion on the 3rd kill or 2 mafia idea that people have.
I still stand by Holy and Mathcam as scum other then that I haven't got a clue. If you still want to lynch me I'm not going to stop or argue go right to town, but I will keep saying I expected, I still expected it and nothing is going to get through to any town person left in this game, but I already figure I'm going to be lynched. I'm just helping solve one less confusion.
The fact that you changed your story of who you protected actually, only convinced me more of you as scum. If you concerned of your sanity which you doubted on Day 2, and if you really protected Sarcastro last night, EARLY on this day when you found you're likely to be lynched, you would reveal this immediately to the town, you got 2 results which dead because of you to be sure of it (if it's true), but no, you pushed this Quack theory on the middle of the game and after PJ mentioned about his Quack theory.
So, nooo, I don't buy your new claim.
Gasp! So it's DGB >.> <.<curiouskarmadog wrote:vote Beep Beep, I dont think you are the Jester now, you are just DGB, if the Mod assigned you the Jester role, he is a sick SOB.
My FFM mod, euh...
Hmm, *thinking hard...* *thinking reaaally hard*Beep! Beep! wrote:
Sure is. That's how I find scum, and how I want to be able to continue finding scum. Nobody but me needs to believe in my method. I don't need to make converts. If you don't trust it, that's fine.hasdgfas wrote:withholding information
Vote me, lynch me over it. I don't care.
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Hm, PJ seems good at propaganda skill, lol. He might be scum, I'm not that sure. But I'm pretty sure with todays catch, farside's claim as quack in the middle of this day feels too sudden, plus her Changing Story of who were targeted/protected by her, not seems pro-town.
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Apparently, I'm doing good in hunting docs, lol.
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After I re-read her, I think she might be scum who hides behind her scum scores smoothly. I don't trust her PBPA too, said about get a "petroleumjelly wrote:Holy
1.)What do you think of Beep! Beep! now that she cannot possibly be the jester?solidtown vibe" about someone, made me suspicion her more.
Hm, CKD reaction is so OMGUSsy, I clearly get what hasdgfas meant, I think CKD's attempt to discredit hasgdfas' reveal of whether is it Pooky or him is an overemphasize attempt to survive, which likely came from scum.
I definitely will vote CKD. Amen.
Regarding PJ's frustration and his attempt to understand more about other players, I don't think that as scummy. Sometimes I did that too if I must (depends on the town), and from experience, usually I end up being lynched after that kind of effort ;_; Well, might be because I'm suck when doing that, I guess.-
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Good interrogation there, BM.
Allright, honestly I'm beginning to doubt hasdgfas, I'm still confuse here...
Lets see, CKD breadcrumbed and at the same time said his curiosity for where will Pooky brought the Talitha case.
Hasdgfas wasn't voting farside, but the moment farside change story of who her targets were, he voted farside, and claimed vigging Sarc and said maybe it was a double kill.
While from the Quack description, a Quack may kill the patient if the patient is not attacked, but if hasdgfas got vig power at that time, it means Sarcastro was attacked.
I'm still new with this kind of variant, maybe a dose of opinion from others?
And then today, hasdgfas' claiming tracked CKD to Pooky.
CKD counter, claiming that he was RB-ed someone last night, but not Pooky.
CKD's claimed targets from N1 to N3: Talitha, Talitha, RW. All dead.
Grrh, one of you must be scum, I'm just still confused which.-
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Oh, I thought so too, lol! XDBattle Mage wrote:
Recent behaviour? I see little reason to suspect you on your behaviour.mathcam wrote:or whether or not I'm scummy for my recent behavior.The strongest argument against you consists of 1 word. MeMe.
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<grinning> I'm leaning on that actually.hasdgfas wrote:lynch CKD
"it's rather advantageous for scum to know how every person feels about every other person", Mathcam said.Battle Mage wrote:
ok, what has Mathcam done to make you feel that way?Holy wrote:^Somewhat yup, I just realized what I underlined, lol. No, I don't think MeMe was that scummy. I'm still unsure about MeMe/mathcam, tbh.
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I can see his point, because personally I'm not fond with PBPA too, people can change their minds, opinion is dynamic along with the game progress, besides that, scum tend to twist our words from it.
But, the way PJ put his assignments, didn't feel like there's something scummy beneath it.
So, I'm just not sure whether or not Mathcam's refusal motive was truly like what he said.
I'm still considering whether hasdgfas' claim VS the quack the day before is legit or not, but with you voting yourself, my impression towards you just not getting any better >.>curiouskarmadog wrote:ugh, I am tired of arguing with this town...you deserve to lose..
unvote Has, vote CKD
thats is negative one kids...lets see which scum jumps in and hammers me-
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I've re-read hasdgfas and CKD, I've decide, I think I'll vote CKD. Meanwhile, I'll give more time for Mizzy.
We can't see it, but he said "ungiven: unknown", maybe that is the negative effect: not given. I can believe that, unlike CKD VS Pooky thing, I don't really believe this whole RB thing, mostly because the timing though.petroleumjelly wrote:Reasons to disbelieve hasdgfas's claim
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2.)After breaking his 'restriction', there were no tangible negative effects that he or others can see.
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Obviously, hasdgfas' and CKD's claim are contradictory. One of them must be lying, which means one of them must be scum, I suppose. So what's wrong with his vote btw? He has explained his decision.Beep! Beep! wrote:Opportunist.
vote: mathcam
Pointing it out is okay, but voting him while we have this hasdgfas VS CKD case? That's quite distracting, IMO.Beep! Beep! wrote:I may be wrong, but I thought I should point out the possibility.-
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Scum favorite fake-claims are RB and Cop, why? RB - Because if there's such a role like Tracker in the game, they may be able to 'explain' about the Track Result to keep alive. Cop - Usually near endgame, fake-claim Cop too early is bold but careless, this could be happened well because of their 'knowledge'. Wait, maybe I should add Jester too on that list? :ppetroleumjelly wrote:-->b.)A few players have called CKD's breadcrumb very "weak", without taking into account thereasonhis breadcrumb may have been so late (even I did not notice this until after CKD mentioned it), and the fact that his breadcrumb was substantive enough (by fitting "RB" in one post three times) that it was implausible to think he had leftseparatebreadcrumbs for the possibility of him claiminga differentrole.
So, if CKD is scum and had left the RB-claim trail, I don't think he feel the need to leftseparatebreadcrumbs of a different role, RB is quite a safe claim.
I'm not dismissing the plausibility that CKD maybe indeed the RB, but the fact him created the trail after Pooky's claim, is bothering me. If he is Town, like from the meta (link he provided about his MASON claim), don't you think he should realized the need to breadcrumb on earlier day like his mason-claim case, to help when revealing his -might be helpful RB result- sometime when needed, to us? And not after being called by Pooky regarding Talitha's death.
While typing this, I realized if RB is quite a common role, and feel quite bothered by the fact that no one 'till now had counter claim CKD's role. It might be indeed he's not faking it. But, an RB is not always on the town side, I guess. And obviously, hasd's and CKD's claim are contradictory, one of them must be lying, so I don't believe the possibility if both are Town.
However, like you said, his role-blocked choices were odd. If he can explain his reason of his each night choices well, which so far he didn't do, maybe I should reconsider his lynch for a second time.-
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