PRESIDENTMAKER! Game Over! TOWN WINS??!!

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Oman

Save us the trouble of having to do it later.

[Flameaxe]

Vote anderson

for sighing at me for playing brawl.

[Flameaxe]

EBWOP:

Actualy, it means that none of these players are scum, vigs, or SK:

CuriousKarmaDog
Flameaxe
Farside22
CES

Four confirmed townies.

Here's a list of players that are foolish enough to allow me to live if they were scum, and might kill MachiavellianMafia instead:

1. Ration
2. Skruffs
3. Jack Dillon
4. Armlx
5. Kaleidoscope
6. Crub
7. Kuribo
8. Greasy Spot
9. QMan
10. Scotmany12
11. Andersonw
12. Gorgon

4 or 5 players in this list are scum. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

If I was scum, I would definitely let you live. I've seen you drive the town into the ground more than help them.

[Flameaxe]

If I was scum, I would definitely let you live. I've seen you drive the town into the ground more than help them.

I don't believe that for one minute.

You are town in this game, and that's the end of it. No one will convince me that you are scum. Not even you.

Exactly. You have issues believing truth, and this is a great example.

[Flameaxe]

Exactly. You have issues believing truth, and this is a great example.

Er, this is mafia, and I expect scum to lie. So yeah, I am a hardened skeptic all around. But I have faith that you are not a killing role.

But you said I was 100% without a doubt town...

[Flameaxe]

Skruffs, are you scum?

[Flameaxe]

Bad is bad. But we are more talking the way she is bad.

Thanks for the answer Skruffs!

[Flameaxe]

I'll collect the votes, Skruffs. Got nothing better to do...I voted for Mars, basically randomly.

[Flameaxe]

Pssh, no.

jkjkjkjk

[Flameaxe]

But really, I should have it up by the end of the night. Once I stop triple tasking, I should be good.

[Flameaxe]

Votes--

Flameaxe--Mars
DGB--No Vote
Armlx--Flameaxe
Andersonw--CKD
Hackerhuck--DGB

Rough list. I'm gonna run through again in case I missed any though.

[Flameaxe]

Y'all need to claim president votes.

[Flameaxe]

Votes--

Flameaxe--Mars
DGB--No Vote
Armlx--Flameaxe
Andersonw--CKD
Hackerhuck--DGB
Gorgot--Skruffs*

[Flameaxe]

Votes--

Flameaxe--Mars
DGB--No Vote
Armlx--Flameaxe
Andersonw--CKD
Hackerhuck--DGB
Gorgon--Skruffs*
Crub--Flameaxe(2)

[Flameaxe]

Votes--

Flameaxe--Mars
DGB--No Vote
Armlx--Flameaxe
Andersonw--CKD
Hackerhuck--DGB
Gorgon--Skruffs*
Crub--Flameaxe(2)
Scot--Skruffs(2)

[Flameaxe]

Votes--

Flameaxe--Mars
DGB--No Vote
Armlx--Flameaxe
Andersonw--CKD
Hackerhuck--DGB
Gorgon--Skruffs*
Crub--Flameaxe(2)
Scot--Skruffs(2)
Farside--Skruffs(3)
Qman--Mars(2)
CKD--Mars(3)
Kuribo--Skruffs(4)
Greasy Spot--Hackerhuck

Updated.

[Flameaxe]

Lowell, would you execute Flameaxe tomorrow if I pledged you my vote for the rest of the game?

Why...?

[Flameaxe]

Limited access this weekend, St. Patty's day rush at work...

List will be updated tomorrow for sure.

[Flameaxe]

Vote claims.

[Flameaxe]

Voted Mars again.

[Flameaxe]

Sure.

[Flameaxe]

What??? I'm not president??? You guys are no fun.

Way to make the right choice, guys.

[Flameaxe]

The real question: Who would waste a nightkill on DGB when you get plenty more kills letting her run loose during the day...

[Flameaxe]

Cogito, thank you for your vote. It's the wise thing to do.

HackerHuck, if you want to kill scum today, Flameaxe is your choice. But you'll get more info by killing me, even though I am a townie.

Care to back that one up?

[Flameaxe]

Cogito, thank you for your vote. It's the wise thing to do.

HackerHuck, if you want to kill scum today, Flameaxe is your choice. But you'll get more info by killing me, even though I am a townie.

Care to back that one up?

I've been reading your posts. You don't need to look for scum, you know who the scum is, you are scum. Clear enough?

Proof or it didn't happen.

[Flameaxe]

But seriously guys. DGB is scum. I read her posts and saw that she is scum. This is 100% reliable.

[Flameaxe]

Yeah, well, I read all of the posts, and everyone but me is scum.

I read the mod's handy dandy notebook, and everyone in the game, in addition to him, is scum, except me.

[Flameaxe]

Proof or it didn't happen.

Read your own posts. Show me one that is not anti-town. Just one.

It's your case. I'm not building it for you.

[Flameaxe]

I agree she needs to prove her case and present some actual evidence - that burden rests purely on her shoulders. However, I have a bad feeling about Flamexe's replies. It's highly subjective, of course, and I see that at least one other player has a completely different view on it, but I have to call 'em as I see 'em.

So I'm scum for wanting someone to back up a claim they make against me? That is complete and total bullshit. DGB said I was scum, I asked her to back up her claim (which conveniently gives you the same result of asking "Why?") and she answered with little effort. How on earth am I scummy for this?

[Flameaxe]

See that guys? "a good scum hunter". Someone knows the deal.

[Flameaxe]

Agree a fair amount. You aren't as terrible as people say. Not by far.

I know the exact reason why I am not that great at mafia, don't worry. It's a very simple reason too...

[Flameaxe]

Agree a fair amount. You aren't as terrible as people say. Not by far.

I know the exact reason why I am not that great at mafia, don't worry. It's a very simple reason too...

You scored 3/3 on the Pie newbie test?

No, thats a good thing. I am also one of two people licensed to give the Pie newbie test so...

[Flameaxe]

Wow Axe, I tend to flame past 3am. Sorry bout that.

I'm also interested in HH's thoughts. Hope he listens more than Skruffs....

*wipes the tears* It's ok...*sniff* I'm fine!

[Flameaxe]

PS - unofficialrulerofeveryone has only had one post the entire game

PPS - kscope has yet to add anything substantial to the game and has very few posts that are more than a one liner. He throws a few votes around and does a lot of agreeing without support.

UROE just replaced in if I remember correctly. Kscope likes one-liners from what I've seen of him. Nulltell in my eyes.

[Flameaxe]

GS I already said was AFK for a week across the site. However, he is not very useful.

Actually I am very useful. My role allows me to be extremely useful to the town. My position as a townie makes me very useful to the town if nothing more than a number on the side of the town.


By the way what is AFK?

Away from keyboard.

[Flameaxe]

Do you know who your predecessor voted for? Same goes to UROE. If you don't, please find out.

[Flameaxe]

Still waiting for that case.

And for you two: President votes.

[Flameaxe]

Vote DrippingGoofball

Just OMGUS?

[Flameaxe]

Vote DrippingGoofball

Just OMGUS?

You think...?

vote: Greasy Spot

...and I guess this wasn't OMGUS?

Um, it wasn't OMGUS. She voted you for god knows why, but it wasn't OMGUS. An OMGUS vote is when someone places a vote, with no real reason, on a player who has attacked/voted for them. So yeah, your vote was an OMGUS.

The homo is right.

[Flameaxe]

I will not be making a case against myself for Goofy. I have stated this already, and will stand by it until I die. Goofy made a claim, and did nothing when asked to back it up. Why should we be rewarding her for that by letting her CONTINUE to do nothing about it?

I agree with killings of CES and Goofy for today, Mr. President.

Vote list coming soon. If you still haven't claimed, please do.

[Flameaxe]

Still not buying the case on DGB. More to the point, it's not going anywhere. If you really think she tried to kill someone but was blocked, why not leave her around and kill her later? She's not going anywhere. This just seems like a lazy out for a lot of people.

A couple people are mentioning about my claim:

The town needs to know that there are other factors affecting the election besides just the town's votes, especially since that was a major factor in yesterday's discussion.

Should we take it on faith that there's a good reason for you not telling us what those things are?

I believe he is talking about how his jailing blocks votes...and that he thought the town should know about other things effecting president votes...like his role.

[Flameaxe]

CES: No.

[Flameaxe]

Then die.

I'll get right on that. I need to buy more sleeping pills though. I don't have nearly enough to OD.

[Flameaxe]

Not even close. All of what I'm doing is too public for any kind of play.

All this is, is a genuine desire on my part for him to do something useful, something we can work with. I see no reason to tolerate his laziness.

Obviously you must have some reason to single me out here.

[Flameaxe]

I'm in agreement that Lowell should be taken off my top scum list.

Flameaxe, do me a favor and humor CES. He voted me into office, so I'm going to offer him a little support here. How hard is it to point out how you've been helpful?

I had to laugh about calling scotmany out for lurking. His reappearance was rather timely.

Wow, we're really working on a consensus here. Out of 21 people, we've managed to get five votes on one person. If I don't see some more activity, I may be forced to take out a lurker. I will be compiling a list of people I would like to hear from. And not just "checking in" - at least comment on one of the top three vote holders. I agree that this game is all to easy for scum to lurk in.


I'd like again to see the case on Kuribo. Armlx was nice enough to oblige and he's actually voting for CES.

I can see a kuribo lynch too. Claimed HH vote today, first post pinged me the wrong way, was against vote claims and Lowell's plan for no reason, defended Gorgon.

That's not much to convince me, especially when you use his support of Gorgon as part of your case. That makes me just as happy to lynch Gorgon.

Given my stance. Have no urge to change my stance.

[Flameaxe]

The two posts I have sandwiched are mindblowingly contentless.

The post I quoted is mindblowingly contentless.
The player I quoted is mindblowingly useless.

[Flameaxe]

Looks like Jordan is a one-hit wonder....
I don't believe him.

You don't believe him because he has a one-shot power?

[Flameaxe]

Looks like Jordan is a one-hit wonder....
I don't believe him.

You don't believe him because he has a one-shot power?

Exactly

I guess I fail to see how that is scummy. Care to explain?

[Flameaxe]

Voted Armlx. Gut/townish read.

[Flameaxe]

I voted Armlx.

[Flameaxe]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"][quote="kuribo"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]And that makes me scum how?[/quote]

Because one would think you'd be more helpful?[/quote]It's quite obvious you don't know me then.[/quote]

Like seriously.

[Flameaxe]

I fully, 100%, support a DGB kill, mainly for exactly what scot said in 644.

[Flameaxe]

Notice the difference between DGB's current stance against armlx, and this post of hers earlier:

armlx is town in this game, I can read him like a book.

Why the change in opinion? I find it pretty odd you've only started to really attack armlx when this came up:

It is possible my laptop power cord just blew out. If so, expect me to be on V/LA for a while.

I am aware of what I said. Only fools don't change their minds when contrary evidence presents itself.

Please, make a valid case then. Would like to see you do that for once this game rather then just being a more vocal Kscope.

DGB never made a valid case against me, why would she start with you?

[Flameaxe]

Oh and by the way, before armlx does anything rash, like, say, execute me, I will claim.

CLAIM: If I am President, I have the power to execute 3 players, not just the one.

So guys you really have to elect me I'm tired of begging and seeing you electing scumbags like armlx.

Do we want DGB with a power like this? She'll probably hit 3 town, it's like a win for the scum right there.

[Flameaxe]

I don't know if I mentioned this in this game yet, but I will be away from tomorrow till Monday night. I am undecided on what I think about dgb.

Homo convention?

[Flameaxe]

On Night 1, Iammars, the claimed jailkepper, jailed me. Therefore I couldn't target anyone (I have no night choice so no loss here), but more importantly I couldn't be targeted, especially for the kill. Iammars acted wisely, because I'm nearly always NK'd on Night 0 or Night 1 unless I'm protected, or I have claimed and the scum thinks I may be protected. If I'm not nightkilled I am a night action magnet in any case.

That was night two, you liar. The night with no kill? Yeah. Nice try though.

Kill please?

[Flameaxe]

I'm anti-DGB period. It's blatantly obvious, why should I follow the plan?

[Flameaxe]

DGB, yesterday after Mars stated he Jailed you, you said you were just a regular townie and you should be lynched for the good of the town. Now today you are claiming a triple Kill as persident. Care to clear that up?

Sure. I wanted it to be a surprise on the scum. Since my campaigning efforts weren't paying off, I had to let it out of the bag.

Again. Please kill.

[Flameaxe]

HH: Sorry for not being completely oblivious to how obvious DGB is. She is not town.

[Flameaxe]

A (president vote) for DGB is a vote for failure.

Do you want failure?

[Flameaxe]

Because she is getting away with being scum just fine without being here.

Lets change that.

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Goofy

[Flameaxe]

Other than the fact that you have a tendency to read me completely wrong...


You're not this time.

[Flameaxe]

In other words, a vote for DGB is a vote for scum.

3 townie lynches? No thanks.

[Flameaxe]

In other words, a vote for DGB is a vote for scum.

3 townie lynches? No thanks.

Are you saying DBG is obv scum, or incompetent town?
And how come you always seem to post right on cue in order to attack a fresh DGB post?

Both situations leads to 3 townie executions, so they both benefit scum.

[Flameaxe]

He's saying he's scum, and he's afraid I'll want to kill him no matter what the people decide tomorrow.

If the people are stupid enough to elect you, that is.

[Flameaxe]

so you don't trust DGB to perform democratic executions?

WHAT DO YOU THINK.

[Flameaxe]

Voted armlx again.

[Flameaxe]

Furstrated?

[Flameaxe]

I'm down with a MP kill today. That role seems A) Too "lol". RB town, kill scum? B) Too similar to Jordan's role. C) Doesn't fit with flavor we've seen already. All roles dead currently are normal mafia roles/rolenames.

MP: Even though I don't give a shit, why did you target who you did?

[Flameaxe]

I agree, if MP is scum DGB is definitely the right choice for president tomorrow as suddenly we aren't so close to LyLo (3/14 <<< 5/18) and HH looks like an even better lynch.

Where is this info about how many scum we started with?

*ponders*

[Flameaxe]

I...uh, forgot to vote. Go me.

>_<

[Flameaxe]

I already did.

[Flameaxe]

I...uh, forgot to vote. Go me.

>_<

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe, if this was survivor, you would be the fat old lady who gets voted off first every time.

Yes, but this isn't survivor, and that rarely happens.

[Flameaxe]

My town read on Armlx has rather quickly become weaker.

[Flameaxe]

My town read on Armlx has rather quickly become weaker.

How about your town read on Jordan?

A bit weaker, but not as drastic as yours.

[Flameaxe]

I also voted Litral. I'll dig up the timestamp later.

[Flameaxe]

Why wouldn't you be...?

[Flameaxe]

Sorry, been a bit busy the last few days. I'll try to catch up.

[Flameaxe]

I voted arm last night. I'm catching up.

[Flameaxe]

I do not see the need for a massclaim at this juncture.

[Flameaxe]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 112#971112[/quote]

Obv.

[Flameaxe]

Wait, what the fuck? I voted Scot for some odd reason. I think it was in case Armlx died, which came a bit later than I expected.

You people have guts. I'll give you that.

[Flameaxe]

Anyone willing to make a list of claims for those alive in one neat little post, or point me to where someone already did?

[Flameaxe]

I am also just a townie, so...:

shaft.ed: Jailkeeper
anderson: Doc
Jordan24: 1 shot Cop
ZONEACE: mason
EJ: mason
Litral: mason
Scope: townie
Flameaxe: Townie

Unclaimed:
scot

Scot, you're up buddy.

[Flameaxe]

Meh.

Kill: oEJo

.

[Flameaxe]

I voted armlx. I want to know why Anderson did not protect armlx.

Inactivity. Didn't vote either.


BM sent my my role PM nine minutes after he re-opened the thread.

I'm not that surprised.

I voted Shaft.ed if that matters.

[Flameaxe]

And these deadlines are getting silly.

[Flameaxe]

Kill: Zoneace

[Flameaxe]

Voted Shaft.

I like a Jordan kill, no real reason why, mainly gut. Second choice would be the Fonz.

[Flameaxe]

Well, it wasn't 48 hours...so I don't see how scum would have missed a deadline that hasn't passed.

Time for results!

[Flameaxe]

*cough*

[3] Once you are dead you may not post. Atall. No 'Bah' posts, or anything similar. No ghosts please.

[Flameaxe]

Kill: Shaft.ed

Rawr?