Beneath The Mask [Endgame]

[Ellibereth]

What about go fuck yourself(s).

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Was anyone around for DGB's loser claim a long long time ago.
I'm getting those sort of vibes.

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viewtopic.php?p=386253#p386253

for reference

bless her soul

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Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

[Ellibereth]

I think that talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

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Let me make that more obnoxious.

I think that

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

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Also let me make it really fucking obvious so noone can say they missed it.

Thread is officially locked now.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

[Ellibereth]

Also let me make it really fucking obvious so noone can say they missed it.

Thread is officially locked now.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

Hi guys

Talking about shit when scum are at least planning who gets what role is dumb.

You should all shut up.

Peace.

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It's called mitigating it from getting even worse jesus fucking christ you all just have to wait another 20 fucking hours.

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my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

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my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

my faith in y'alls intelligence is GONE

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HEY MATHGENIUS.

You have a 2d lattice over R where each node is the mean of its neighbors.
So like f(x,y) = (f(x+1,y)+f(x-1,y)+f(x,y+1)+f(x,y-1))/4
and f(x,y) is positive.
Prove f(x,y) is constant.

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still can't solve that problem eh elli

haven't really thought about since we talked about but yeah
unlucky

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It was a puzzle a friend gave me.
Definitely solved.
And I probably would have got it by now if I were still in school lmao.

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your inability to do simple math is very scummy elli

fuck you you're rustier than I am

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your inability to do simple math is very scummy elli

fuck you you're rustier than I am

1v1 me irl do it u won't

Let's go: http://kskedlaya.org/putnam-archive/2016.pdf

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or you could just get the lattice problem and then make fun of me

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lattice in the geometric sense not order theoretical sense dude that should be clear from context.

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its painful
like trudging through the black mud of the grail

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its the same as an im trying to catch up post
but that its fucking painful

and I'm going to keep complaining that things are painful when they're painful

like goddamn

do you know how tiring it is to distinguish between town idiots and scum.

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Elli: that's fine, i'll keep complaining about your complaining as long as it's annoying. we're both free.
also, no, not really. i find distinguishing smart town from smart scum to be what's actually difficult.

thats easier for me zzzz
I would ask you if you wanted to split the work but there are a lot more idiots here so that'd be like me giving you 90% of the pset and very not fair.

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yeahyeah I might actually like you so I'll oblige sooner than later.
I only have like 4 or 5 townreads atm which sucks so give me some time.

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oh reck you're here
please stop being bad I should be obvtown to you

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I was making fun of you. Remember NFL?
Your answer still makes no sense btw.

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Yo Chara, I have to head back to work but if there's anyone in particular you want me to look at lemme know for later. Please don't give me a hella long list though.
Idk how you're doing but i'm still stuck at 5ish townread wise (Rational, Wheme, Varsoon, Luv, and You) and basically nothing else.

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I was making fun of you. Remember NFL?
Your answer still makes no sense btw.

You mean the game you made fun of me and I voted chesskid all game who was scum. Before the game was mod abandoned I was tunneling chesskid3 hard core and everyone was like "no we're lynching Town" and you'd open the day making fun of me because........

--Math

Just because you were right there doesn't mean I didn't find the rest of your shit funny.
And I'm kinda a dick so.

Look can we stop this. You're town because of Drixx and I'm pretty sure he'll tell you I'm town too so zzzz.

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Yo Chara, I have to head back to work but if there's anyone in particular you want me to look at lemme know for later. Please don't give me a hella long list though.
Idk how you're doing but i'm still stuck at 5ish townread wise (Rational, Wheme, Varsoon, Luv, and You) and basically nothing else.

what did i do to make you like me?

talk about your Uzi townread. i like the rest of your list.
a read on chesskid would be helpful as well.

You: I liked your tone when you engaged me and I could at least follow you in the rest of your stuff. (Follow as in see where you're coming from). Basically everything is just very natural.

Luv's posts have generally felt very organic to me too. I don't want to get into too many specifics because then they or others can trick me by doing more of the same but yeah.

The most notable thing about chesskid is that I'm not reading him as town yet. I would say once that goes on for sufficiently long he becomes scum but he might be less motivated atm so far because this is kinda a shitshow so I'm going to let that ferment. It'll be very obvious if I ever decide he's town.

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Keyenpeydee gets a pass due to wagon composition
HURT: xxReckonerxX

That would be my tentative scum team ATM. Not 100% sure mainly like 80% sure Not Chara and Ramicus are scum.

--Math

what the hell

oh reck you're here
please stop being bad I should be obvtown to you

why

I don't change the flow of things as scum unless I have to. (e.g. telling people to shutup).
I'm pretty sure we went over this years ago did you forget.

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also, unfortunately rational's probably town because of the drixx head being very helpful early on in the shut up crusade pregame.

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The most notable thing about chesskid is that I'm not reading him as town yet

this seems like a you problem Mr. Ellibereth

Fuck you, it's a you problem and you know that.

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Yo, you're one of the nutjobs I can't read.
What have you done that scumcreature wouldn't do.
or vice versa lul.

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is the how to read me guide in your wiki up to date lol.
because it basically says activity may or may not be a tell.

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also when I was skimming I remember a few people going omg creature obvtown now and stuff like that.

are they full of shit or do you actually think you should be obvtown by now for meta reasons.

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I like the page! I disagree with stuff on it but I like it.
I like people with wiki pages in general since you can know their established viewpoints on things alignment free.

But yeah.

If you had to write a new how to read creature guide what would it say.

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People put a lot of stock into meta on this site.

Area you saying this like it's good or bad.
It's just another tool in the toolbox.
Sometimes it's devastatingly effective, sometimes it's a total flub.
Senseing when its legit or not is the hard part.
Well finding "legit meta" is also the hard part but that's honestly just a function of time.

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"People who are active in all games save one are scum in said game."

are you disagreeing
I don't want to have this debate here today.
Except it's not really a debate it's just checking a bunch of samples to see if its true zzz.
I did back in 2011 and the results were stunning.

(and just because it might not hold for you doesn't mean it's not useful :p).

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There shouldn't have objective meta tells, you need experience with a player, so I understand when you don't understand the townreads on me.

yeah I'm asking you to help me out

like if your wiki is out of date and the excitement + activity stuff you said is up to date can you provide an example of you doing it as town and not doing it as scum?

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CREATURE GET OFF SITE CHAT AND GET ME MY META I HAVE TO GO SOON

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Keyenpeydee gets a pass due to wagon composition
HURT: xxReckonerxX

That would be my tentative scum team ATM. Not 100% sure mainly like 80% sure Not Chara and Ramicus are scum.

--Math

what the hell

oh reck you're here
please stop being bad I should be obvtown to you

why

I don't change the flow of things as scum unless I have to. (e.g. telling people to shutup).
I'm pretty sure we went over this years ago did you forget.

i literally dont remember playing any games w you

dude we played at least 4 or 5 rip.
Maybe I'm confusing the specific convo I remember with one I had with Fate or Spy but yeah.
Its whatever I'm slowly getting a grasp on this game anyway

if you're town can you like, be more obvious than in kilos though. Thanks

btw I don't think its scummy because you did it in kilos too but if you don't remember playing together where are you getting this "I can see elli doing that as scum" stuff from

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Ellibereth

What do you think about the following quotes?

Spoiler:

do what i do:

keep a running doc/new post open in a separate tab. when you want to respond to a post, ctrl+click on the quote button on that post, then copy/paste it into the empty post

Multiquote is also a forum function!

Sometimes my thoughts on a post are important enough to deserve their own reply. Though I have not tried this "control click" thing, what's that?

Large walls and excessive numbers of posts both have negative effects on the effort needed to catch up. I tend to use the "two ears one mouth" principle. If other people have already made the point, there is often little point in "me too"ing. Sadly this position is seen by too many people as scummy.

D1 is for getting a foothold in the game and sorting as many players as possible, it's the day I (and most people) are most likely to change their votes multiple times.

Or holding off and not voting instead of changing all the time, and getting scumread for that.

Uh.
Nothing.

Also linking me only one example for a meta thing is silly but it's okay, I agree that you're town now for mostly in game reasons after this whole exchange.
(Also being coy with sharing meta just makes life harder for everyone else you know -.-. I recognize thats probably the point though.)

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anyway,
any third parties nonwithstanding
scum are in the following list

PenguinPower
Yume
Leonshade
Chesskid3
xRECKONERx
Smocaine
keyenpeydee
Kise
Maki and Kaito
Mulch

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Penguin and Reck are probably town.

Is this simply based on their refusal to read the pre-game?

Yes. I think scum are unlikely to enter the game that way and double down on the stance. Especially considering pre-game generated so many pages and a good amount of town have some reads from the content.

by the way LUV.
I'm fairly sure at least reck would have done the exact same thing regardless of alignment and he would confirm that.
I don't know penguin at all but I suspect the same.

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Yo Chara, I have to head back to work but if there's anyone in particular you want me to look at lemme know for later. Please don't give me a hella long list though.
Idk how you're doing but i'm still stuck at 5ish townread wise (Rational, Wheme, Varsoon, Luv, and You) and basically nothing else.

what did i do to make you like me?

talk about your Uzi townread. i like the rest of your list.
a read on chesskid would be helpful as well.

You: I liked your tone when you engaged me and I could at least follow you in the rest of your stuff. (Follow as in see where you're coming from). Basically everything is just very natural.

Luv's posts have generally felt very organic to me too. I don't want to get into too many specifics because then they or others can trick me by doing more of the same but yeah.

The most notable thing about chesskid is that I'm not reading him as town yet. I would say once that goes on for sufficiently long he becomes scum but he might be less motivated atm so far because this is kinda a shitshow so I'm going to let that ferment. It'll be very obvious if I ever decide he's town.

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Ellibereth's scumpool looks accurate. Alchemist21 is the one I question the most being outside.

Reread what just happened he's town.

Also if you want to check if you missed anyone else here's the people I removed:

NOT SCUM
Elli
Rational
Wheme
Varsoon
LUV
Chara
davesaz
Creature
Purple
Alchemist
Chikorita
Ramcius

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So you're missign Yume, key and Leon?
If the first one is just because of the miller claim then let's silly and put them back
If it's not then god bless.

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Yeah, because the miller claim came before scum got to distribute the roles.

I don't get it.
They could have just already made a decision a miller fakeclaim was going that direction.

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Leonshade is most because I feel his competence to solve the game rather than getting townread and sitting back like I see him doing in his scumgames.

I have no experience with him his iso in a vacuum is decisively null.
I'll agree that I won't go nuts on him today unless I see something though.

r.e. rational
Drixx was town from the pregame stuff.
On top of that however much I think math is a nut their posts have been town too.
Also drixx's long ass post recently read to me as good stuff too.

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There's also that I think the miller would be given to someone that can actually carry scum to endgame rather than someone easy to read like Yume.

I don't know yume
they're not easy to read from posts here since they've barely posted and if anything negative points since their profile indicated they were online today.

I think that's a dangerous assumption to make.
I haven't been here in a while but miller claims used to get met by EXTREME pressure. I actually was an advocate of policy lynching them for a while.
Like they could have swayed either way with how they do it.

tldr put them back unless their play is town in this case okay?

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Vote: Mulch

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Varsoon come on board plz.
Wheme sheep plz.

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Hardclaim phantom thief .

(expired on 2017-10-11 21:13:03) to unvote me or I out who our leader is

These are NOT town reactions.

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those should be sufficient

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addendum

the absence of anything town and those two should be sufficient

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...those happened AFTER the flashwagon.
Explain the flashwagon and

why

I'm not going into more detail than the absence of anything town.
Stop being stubborn and look at what's in front of you on this page.

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ty jesus thanks

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drixx read 767

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good vote regardless

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creature go read post 767 and come back.

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and regardless of that this reaction to 4(!?!?!?!) votes is hilariously scum.

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creature go read post 767 and come back.

Why do you have a stiffy for post 767?

~D

It discusses how knowing akira doesn't necessarily imply town

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You aren’t on RC’s level .

There's a story here and I want to know it.

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Ann(e) Takamaki is not receiving a Traitor role. Sorry. Won't ever believe it.

So, Mulch may be bad town, but is not scum unless someone cc's that claim.

scum get fakeclaims dude

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Wheme remember when you said NOT DAN in kilos.

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Ann(e) Takamaki is not receiving a Traitor role. Sorry. Won't ever believe it.

So, Mulch may be bad town, but is not scum unless someone cc's that claim.

scum get fakeclaims dude

Ann is not going to be a fake claim. At all.

Dude the point of fakeclaims is for them to be realistic.
Frodo can be a fucking fakeclaim in lotr mafia.

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flavor is alignment indicative AND SCUM HAVE FAKECLAIM

means the ACTUAL ROLES are alignment indicative
and for that to work the scum's fakeclaims have to be a bunch of fucking good guys.

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this reaction is faked ffs.

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like seriously
go to md and look at this guy's posts and see how arrogant he is about his winrate
this shit is faked

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creature he's scum

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viewtopic.php?t=72279&f=5&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

THIS SHIT IS BEYOND FAKED.

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flavor is alignment indicative AND SCUM HAVE FAKECLAIM

means the ACTUAL ROLES are alignment indicative
and for that to work the scum's fakeclaims have to be a bunch of fucking good guys.

But not a bunch of PTs. FLAVOR IS ALIGNMENT indicative.

Scum fake claim is probably in Haru/Makoto since both have (somewhat for Makoto) scum-aligned relationships. Goro wouldn't be a good fake claim.

Ryuji/Ann, in my mind, cannot be fake claims given flavor. Yusuke/Futuba would be weird fake claims, so unlikely.

There's also a slew of support characters that could be fake claims, so I'm not certain that any PTs are fake claims.

FLAVOR IS ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE means scum MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A PT FAKECLAIM.

Not that they DON'T have a fucking pt fakeclaim.

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THIS
IS
FAKED

I'M 100% FUCKING SURE,.

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THIS
IS
FAKED

I'M 100% FUCKING SURE,.

This can eat rope.

--Math

christ I can't wait for you to look like an idiot after he flips.

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THIS
IS
FAKED

I'M 100% FUCKING SURE,.

100%?

yup I'll 1v1 this any day of the fucking week

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THIS
IS
FAKED

I'M 100% FUCKING SURE,.

100%?

yup I'll 1v1 this any day of the fucking week

Let’s make a deal.
When I flip town, you self vote tomorrow. Deal?

LOL
DEAL

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Question for people who know flavour because I think I saw this mentioned earlier: is it possible the scum all know who akira is, but besides the mason town don't? This is very important, for obvious reasons.

yes
post 767

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If Elizabeth is not self voting tomorrow, instant lunch

YOU'RE FLIPPING SCUM SO IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

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If Elizabeth is not self voting tomorrow, instant lunch

YOU'RE FLIPPING SCUM SO IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

Reminder that this said 100%

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I can't believe you guys are considering letting him escape holy shit.

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DRIXX DON'T LISTEN HER I BELIEVE IN YOU.

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DRIXX DON'T LISTEN HER I BELIEVE IN YOU.

VOTE: eliberith

AT LEAST YOU KNOW WHAT 1V1 MEANS NOW.

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ANDREW WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING DO YOU NOT SEE MULCH'S POSTS.

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omg ffs chara I had faith in you
he's not town.
this is faked

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if you're town can you like, be more obvious than in kilos though. Thanks

btw I don't think its scummy because you did it in kilos too but if you don't remember playing together where are you getting this "I can see elli doing that as scum" stuff from

i dont remember playing w/ you like specifically so you calling out specific things saying "you should know this"

but the "i could see elli doing that" is because i know your reputation/style from you being in SDC in that you're ballsy and bold

I usually only am as town tbh.
Fate's also going come back and drag me to hell if I can't get this mulch lynch through jesus.

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Reck I have faith in you.
You can still tell a faked meltdown when you see one aye?

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YO RECK READ THIS

I didn't finish the game but didn't Akira get nabbed by the cops at the beginning? I remember the premise being that one of his crew may have ratted him out. So...maybe mafia already know who Akira is and the deathproofiness is put there to stop them from outright killing this player. If this is the case then mafia basically just keep tabs on him. They'll probably also watch out for any crumbs Akira tries to make so maybe Morgana should do the crumbling/clearing

Again, I didn't finish the game, but it seems like one of the phantom thieves could be a mafia traitor as well

The possibility of a traitor is absolutely there, as it was an element in the game--there's more than one instance where trust isn't 100% between the Phantom Thieves.
As for Scum knowing Akira's identity, that is possible, too--I hadn't considered the deathproof angle. At the start of the game, Akira is on probation, but then he awakens to his metaverse powers and becomes a Phantom Thief in order to strike down the corrupt system. He has to hide his identity as a phantom thief so that he does not violate his probation. Most of the game is actually the main character's flashbacks to events as he considers exactly what to confess to a lawyer after being caught.

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I don't think assuming scum don't know who he is is occams razoring.
Like that's the literal only reason you think he's not scum yeah?

Look at his blow up in a vacuum and compare it to his md posts, I had linked an iso to a set of them earlier.

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I don't think assuming scum don't know who he is is occams razoring.
Like that's the literal only reason you think he's not scum yeah?

I don't really think Mulch is intelligent enough to fake this outburst

Eh.
I disagree.

Look here, especially at iso numbers 8-14: viewtopic.php?t=72279&f=5&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

He's an arrogant little fuck about his winrate and playstyle as both alignments. And the game's he's whining about being mislynched in here had happened already. Doesn't not match up with this breakdown at all.

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Reck I know the personality pisses you off but the whole too stupid and emotional to be scum thing is his entire strategy right now.

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are you replacing out because of too much yelling

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I don't think assuming scum don't know who he is is occams razoring.
Like that's the literal only reason you think he's not scum yeah?

I don't really think Mulch is intelligent enough to fake this outburst

Eh.
I disagree.

Look here, especially at iso numbers 8-14: viewtopic.php?t=72279&f=5&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

He's an arrogant little fuck about his winrate and playstyle as both alignments. And the game's he's whining about being mislynched in here had happened already. Doesn't not match up with this breakdown at all.

Reck I know the personality pisses you off but the whole too stupid and emotional to be scum thing is his entire strategy right now.

honestly you're making me ??? with how much you're suckin my dick to get me to vote this little shitheel so you're having the opposite effect right now

i am trying to be more aware of my blind spots and how people slip into them and this is one of the ways

I would absolutely suck the proverbial e-dick to get you to vote him yeah.
I'm more confident on this read than any i had in kilos.

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I have no time for this shithole right now but rest assured I will still be hammering on Mulch further lest one of his buddies also outs themselves in the process.

tldr is:

A big chunk of you are assuming he's town that went off his rocker so thus not okay only reason policy lynch blahblah.
That IS NOT and HAS NEVER been the position I've held.
He is SCUM that decided to act this way (which would then also incidentally be totally okay) and got the exact fucking reaction he wanted out of the vast majority of you.

Especially anyone who's going "mulch if you're town you're better than this".
HE IS BETTER THAN THAT YEAH.
BECAUSE HE'S NOT TOWN HERE AND HE'S SCUM.

However I think this is demonstratable and I'll try to get it to it tonight since apparently noone here can see a faked reaction when it's staring at them anymore.

Other than that
I didn't read the math vs. purple exchange too closely yet but that actually looked like tvt on a skim unlike mulch vs. me.
drixx is right about stopping the claims (I incidentally disagree with him on the ethics of using activity logs but we can chat about that in the future if you ever want to).
Kise's scummy as shit.
The lists's me and creature presented earlier still hold.

peace.

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are any of my townreads online I don't have much time but I want to talk some stuff out.

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I'd want to know your stance on stuff since the mulch blowup till now first.

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uh
key points would be

Do you think mulch is town or scum?

if scum, HIGH FIVE we can discuss how to convince everyone else and find out who's scum with him.

if town, is it because

1) you thought his blowup was town
or
2) flavor reasons
or
3) something else

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also creature and I had lists earlier that were pretty close with some minor differences.
I've made some adjustments since but how inline you are with those in general.

I guess that's a fancy way of asking for reads.

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nah I would have just looked down on you a bit LOL.
and what it would have changed was the topic of what we discussed.
it was at least a way to make sure you were roughly caught up yeah?

and frankly the way I did it just fine since this page of posts was suffiicient to give me *some* opinion on you.

now let me get to the earlier stuff

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First off can we agree to this.

If Mulch is scum the play wasn't stupid. He wasn't selfish. He wasn't an asshole. It was just a decent play given the playerlist.
And as such, "the too stupid to be scum" argument doesn't work. He's been on the site long enough and been in enough games to see how defeatism and AtE effects people watching, faked or not.

Second,

I'm glad you don't buy the flavor shit. I can deal with disposing of that argument some other time then.

Finally,

I don't have time to go dig up posts and quotes from various threads right now, if I end up needing to I'll probaly have to do it later, but the way he exploded here does NOT match his explosions in his other town games and his attitude expressed about his play does NOT follow the general attitude he's had in other games and expressed in MD. Like I'm pretty sure if you guys go skim his stuff and actually try to compare them you'll see what I'm talking about. He tried to imitate it but the timing and the way he did it fell short.

The rest of the read isn't stuff you can directly verify I guess? I have a lot of experience judging faked vs. real blowups in general because faking these were realllly common back in 2011 and 2012 and this one just screams fake from experience. But I've calmed down and I understand that most of the town people here don't have that experience so they need to rely on comparative shit hence the above paragraph.

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My only scumread independet of Mulch is Kise. His page 46 was absolutely horrible.

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I didn't finish the game but didn't Akira get nabbed by the cops at the beginning? I remember the premise being that one of his crew may have ratted him out. So...maybe mafia already know who Akira is and the deathproofiness is put there to stop them from outright killing this player. If this is the case then mafia basically just keep tabs on him. They'll probably also watch out for any crumbs Akira tries to make so maybe Morgana should do the crumbling/clearing

Again, I didn't finish the game, but it seems like one of the phantom thieves could be a mafia traitor as well

Holy FUCK Drixx

and btw kisescum is literally telling us here that they know who akira was.

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that was planned to get a townread and he's smart enough to fake that.

I'm glad that you're at least open to the above.
Most of the other people aren't and it's super frustrating.

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I didn't finish the game but didn't Akira get nabbed by the cops at the beginning? I remember the premise being that one of his crew may have ratted him out. So...maybe mafia already know who Akira is and the deathproofiness is put there to stop them from outright killing this player. If this is the case then mafia basically just keep tabs on him. They'll probably also watch out for any crumbs Akira tries to make so maybe Morgana should do the crumbling/clearing

Again, I didn't finish the game, but it seems like one of the phantom thieves could be a mafia traitor as well

Holy FUCK Drixx

and btw kisescum is literally telling us here that they know who akira was.

this is a reach.

Kise could still very well be scum but it's not because of this post

yeah I'm saying that he's scum for other posts and that this post was him musing about a mechanic he knew was there not that he's scum because of this one.

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Scum are {Mulch, Kise} + some subset of:

PenguinPower
Yume
Leonshade
Chesskid3
Smocaine
keyenpeydee

I'm drained and don't have the energy or motivation to convince you people through words right now.
but I implore you all to at least listen to the first two after I flip.
and to just maybe listen to the rest after they're right.

I have a little time and I'm willing to chat with some of my townreads for a bit but I'm not in the mood atm to have a talk with someone who can't assume I'm acting in good faith for the duration of the conversation. I'm frustrated enough by some stuff outside of this game.

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why are you scumreading Kise and Leon?

I'm not scumreading leon i'm just not townreading him.

All of Kise's posts on page 46 were absolutely horrible.
None of it sounded close to genuine or well motivated.
Too tired to go back for specifics but I remember the part where he talks about LUV to be especially bad.

Also a much smaller point that I know is a reach in a vacuum but I believe it so:
just pretend for a second you know that scum knew who akira is okay.
and go back and read the post he made however long ago about it.
sounds like scum speculating about info they already know yeah?

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creature is my updated list semi on the same page as yours still or have you gone off on your own too.

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Did someone replace PenguinPower?

he unreplaced out

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also purple when you come back please don't give me more of an aneurysm from this game rational is really fucking town.

Drixx I have some thoughts on the whole arcana thing (like why your plan might not be best plan) but I'll only talk about it if you want to talk about it.

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i've been busy i'll be back tmrw

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prod dodge
been getting fucked by work
I'll try to do stuff tmrw

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proddoge
I'll do something tomorrow for sure

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I have a little time wheeee.

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First things first I saw that Yume is saying she's a executioner miller.
Thats the only concrete thing claimed I've seen since Mulch. Did I miss any?

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Second things second, Purple you're going to be disappointed in one way at least.

I thought about it and a lot of it does just come from experience. It's going to take a lot of effort to explain something that's just intuitive to me to people that just don't have said intuition because I'll have to explain tons of shit from scratch and I frankly don't want to put in the effort and don't think it's worth the time.

That said I saw that some people are saying that the MD things I linked are irrelevant when that just isn't true.

1. He isn't just talking about his scum play there, he has discussed his play as both alignments. (There's also more stuff than the ones I linked earlier, just search his name).

2. It's not about direct relevance, it's about building a psychological profile of the subject. His MD posts are as revealing for building said profile as his town games since we can assume he's operating in an honest state.

Have you read/skimmed his town games? Especially the three completed where he gets lynched d1 as town? For the people who have and are reading him as town for nonflavor reasons I've given up on completely. If you have and are reading him as null it's going to be some work for me to explain but I'm particularily not motivated in this game because I can just show it through other means. We on the same page?

I guess I can describe the process a little since I have some time. First build a profile: take a look at places where you assume the subject is acting naturally/without intent to lie. This takes some time and effort. For Mulch an obvious start would be has a highish opinion of his own play and method to approaching things, thinks it's a lot of other people's fault for ragging on him for non alignment indicating stuff, aware of other people's mostly negative opinions on him, etc.

Next look at what happened this game. A key part was the timing of this particular blowup and the choice of how he went about it. Just think about if from the perspective of a player who's aware of the general feeling that his playstyle is suboptimal and probably pro-scum and who has reacted negatively to it before. Look at the timing of when he chose to blow up, the drama he chose to build with the coundown clock. Look at how little signs in his words there were that he actually just gave up. The guy was putting on a show. Look at the lack of really trying to have an influence on the rest of the game other than the 1v1 he engaged in with me. Look at the lack of putting out his reads. Saying not to lynch this person, to look at that person. There was no attitude at all of him thinking I'm dying partially for the sake of the town. It was just a giant show to get people to townread him for the raw emotion.

tldr ;I've mostly given up/am too lazy to convince you guys with words on Mulch, (I ended up writing something anyways I guess)... but as fate has it I have other ways of being convincing.

Here I'm super nice I'll append some links to game he got lynched D1 to compare with, Just a quick iso and a look at how he acted predeath in each should be sufficient to see the difference. I still stand by searching and reading his MD posts are also very revealing if you want to do that too. :

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=72397&user_select% ... &start=400

viewtopic.php?t=72998&f=53&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=72708&user_select% ... &start=200

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Also skirt you can read that later and I don't have that much time so I'd rather talk than have you right a long response and me not to be here.

I have Kise scum and Math town but I missed the connection between the too what was it.

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and also you can agree that mulch scum => math town yeah?

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I PROMISE you guys are wrong.
I can't explain to you guys explicitly how to do it but can you try to do the exercise I talked about with going through those three isos and some of his md stuff and comparing it to here?

Like I can kinda understand getting null if you have no experience with doing this but town is just shocking.

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Like I said it's about learning what his general mindset is.
Reading him is almost entirely contingent on first doing that.

if you haven't look through his past play and posts in md and stuff like that calling him town on general terms is total bullshit.

pedit:
and i'm not putting together a case because i'm lazy and i can show i'm right through other ways.

I'll look at this chikorita shit since I was townreading them before.

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I PROMISE you guys are wrong.
I can't explain to you guys explicitly how to do it but can you try to do the exercise I talked about with going through those three isos and some of his md stuff and comparing it to here?

Like I can kinda understand getting null if you have no experience with doing this but town is just shocking.

i said i'm willing to listen to a scum case, and i said mulch is capable of faking this as scum from the beginning. i probably have the most experience with mulch in this game outside of maybe mm4? i don't have time to pick apart 3 isos as well as this game though, nor any real desire to. i want something that shows why this blowup is like his scum fake blowups and unlike his town blowups, because both elements are important; if its just different from both then this is just a new scenario and meta doesn't matter.

uh I disagree.
If all town blowups are similar and this one is different it should suffice.

throw in the bonus on him flipping scum means breaking the fucking game wide open.

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Ah whtever I'm done discussing this.
I told myself to be done with this before coming back.
I'm aware that ya'll aren't good at reading this shit and thank god this game has roles.

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Yo varsoon

The only people who should have such a focus on the metaverse early are people who can go there, and, as far as I am aware, that's limited to Phantom Thieves and Scum.

Did the mod say this somewhere or is this a flavor thing?

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Yo varsoon

The only people who should have such a focus on the metaverse early are people who can go there, and, as far as I am aware, that's limited to Phantom Thieves and Scum.

Did the mod say this somewhere or is this a flavor thing?

Both flavor and reflected in the claims so far.
Keep up.

I'm obviously not keeping up.

There have been two? claims right now that I know of and I one is a fake so. (I'm referring to Mulch and Yume).
I know Math claimed something but idr if metaverse stuff was involved.

Is this statement true: "in the game only phantom thieves and conspiracy can go to the metaverse".

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Yume you should have executed mulch would have made my life so much easier -.- tt.

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Kise

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Scum are {Mulch, Kise} + some subset of:

PenguinPower
Yume
Leonshade
Chesskid3
Smocaine
keyenpeydee

I still stand by this list until further notice
i need to review luv and chicka and maybe some other people though.

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so many prefer a kise wagon but not votes on the latest vc lul

unvote, vote kise

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That's the most bullshit thing I've ever read in my life. Pyschological profile? Is this their way of saying, no there is no connection, but I am saying you are scum based on a PERSONALITY ANALYSIS???

?
?

yup
fun fact
it works

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that you're scum lol

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i mean if the you want the true jist of the post it was "I'm better than you guys at reading people and I say Mulch is scum so sheep me" but I knew purple wouldn't be happy with that lul.

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personality analysis kappa

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i'm just meming now talking to scum is fun

purple how close to 100% is your thing on yume

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i'm just meming now talking to scum is fun

purple how close to 100% is your thing on yume

not 100%

but it is the only very strong scumread i can say i have after 90 pages in this god-forsaken game

i guess if i had to assign a percentage i'd say 85% scum but considering their claimed role includes "miller" i feel completely safe lynching it

would you answer any further questions on this or should i drop it and just decide if i feel like sheeping

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if you feel like linking me a bunch of shit with no analysis or other words (including offsite stuff about flavor it'll at least be fun to read...) I'd be down

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we should keep kise above the 6 mark though yeah.

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wanna humor me and vote yume now

im salty about the lack of sheeping over mulch kek

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VOTE: Kise
i'd rather Elli over Smocaine. when i have time later tonight i'll see where i stand on the game as a whole.

im disappointed in you

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ACTUALLY

if we want to play this flavor game
let's fucking play this flavor game

Mulch what are the flavor names of your claimed abilities.

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its neutral at best and could help if they're claiming abilities not in their safeclaim
what reason is there NOT to

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yume you too

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like if someone already claimed abilities and name i see 0 reason not to get the flavor too

one scenario is it all makes sense and clicks in which case its null and we move on

other case it doesn't and it might mean something

I don't see any reason not to do it if we're talking about flavor shit at all.

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Dislike this as well there is usually a huge range of stuff u can claim that's flavorful in themes and if not we are just giving big signals of how realclaims flavor is structured

THEY LIKELY ALREADY KNOW HOW REALCLAIM STUFF IS STRUCTURED WTF I'M ASKING FOR THE GODDAMN EQUIVALENT OF "PLAYING THE HERO" OR "STEALING TREASURE" FROM THE AKIRA PM.

jesus christ there's some percentage chance it makes sense and then whatever

but THERE EXISTS SOME PERCENTAGE WHERE SHIT IS JUST BEING MADE UP AND THEN IF THAT HAPPENS ITS GOOD.

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traveling today, you'll see me if i have internet. if not you'll see me late this evening.

Elli: disappointed because i'm townreading Smocaine more than you, or because i haven't followed you on the Mulch wagon that isn't happening today?

both now lol
i semi forgave you for the latter because there are people I'm more disappointed at and the only fucking help i got in the entire game was maki and kaito of all people but you had to go remind me

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Any theme mod worth their salt has a backup provided with flavor that makes sense and, in the case that a player wants to claim something not in their role, mods often will provide appropriate flavor names for scum players who ask for them.

I didn't know this part.

I still don't get how its harmful.

I can see the distraction part given this town's collective brainpower but if we weren't having this argument it would just take 1 post and it be over.

Like they just have to go like "it's called gates of babylon" and we'll nod and move on.

like I generally agree flavor is a distraction and shit but if we're doing name claims already whats the harm in going all the way.

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okayokay sure

were you in the "mulch is town because of flavor camp"
idr
because if you were i'm going to be very upset now.

actually people in that camp need to raise their hand so you can tell them they're wrong since i'm guessing you disagree with that reasoning for similar reasons to the above yeah?

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now i don't want to lynch Smocaine or Elli, for what it's worth. that's why i picked Kise.
bye for now.

oh yeah
im not disappointed about the kise part
that part is A+

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nah I'm just usually right

I still need to check up on luv and chika but otherwise i stand by everything

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Seems more like scum faking reads to me.

What's your scumread on Kise based on?

their posts are hella faked

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@Elli: Based on mechanics. There is some flavorspec involved, but it's highly tied to the mechanical conceits presented within the modpost containing the Akira role.

look flavor shit isn't my specialty
it's something I've never really had to deal with before this game.

I don't see why scum wouldn't have an obvious good guy pt fakeclaim.

If they didn't all the good guys pt just nameclaim and we'd have a giant townbloc yeah?

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Examples?

dude like every post they've made including the segment you quoted earlier.
and every attempt to interact with me they've made that i've been ignoring lul

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here have some meta guys

my reads don't move when I'm sure

and when I'm sure I'm usually *right*

viewtopic.php?t=73385&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

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no there weren't any little nuances
and yes I obviously do think the scumteam knew who akira was from the start

I thought reck also had mulch as town just because he claimed ann? I feel like there were others maybe i was too triggered at the wagon defusing.
The townbloc thing was to bring down the ann claim = town argument and only that argument.

I've already recognized you guys were bad at reading him and I'm incapable of convincing people with the level of effort I'm willing to put in though so I'm going to drop this again and just get kise lynched.

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nope

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Scum are {Mulch, Kise} + some subset of:

PenguinPower
Yume
Leonshade
Chesskid3
Smocaine
keyenpeydee

I still stand by this list until further notice
i need to review luv and chicka and maybe some other people though.

this is still current

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didn't do it yet

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OOOH LEONSHADE YOU JUST GOT PROMOTED OFF MY LIST CONGRATZ

2517 was good shit.

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i don't feel like answering

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nah I just don't think its worth it
you either see it or you don't
especially since you see town there and you reads are generally horrible, its going to take waaay too much effort
and you're also still on the possiscum list so

and r.e. the akira thing, i wouldn't say it silly. i'd say it was around even if they knew or not in just in a vacuum.
but mulch is scum so i know they know LUL.

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here lemme give you an example

leon, you seem pretty competent

iso kise, do you see faked shit?

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i can see smokey being scum scum and not just not town now too actually

i'll follow up on this later when im home and hopefully not really tired

before luv and chika lul

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i can see smokey being scum scum and not just not town now too actually

i'll follow up on this later when im home and hopefully not really tired

before luv and chika lul

Back this shit up when you get back homie UNVOTE:

by follow up I meant I would figure out if you were scum.
alas I have not.

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5 days going into the weekend.

uh
wut was this
I'm missing the context but I'm also tired

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lolu my first public readlist was d1

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anyway,
any third parties nonwithstanding
scum are in the following list

PenguinPower
Yume
Leonshade
Chesskid3
xRECKONERx
Smocaine
keyenpeydee
Kise
Maki and Kaito
Mulch

lets go motherfker.

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lolu my first public readlist was d1

Quote it. And then I will quote where pre game ends

haHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

anyway,
any third parties nonwithstanding
scum are in the following list

PenguinPower
Yume
Leonshade
Chesskid3
xRECKONERx
Smocaine
keyenpeydee
Kise
Maki and Kaito
Mulch

lets go motherfker.

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how do u fools who like to say shit feels like tvs and tvt and svs feel about MASTINA V RECKONER

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I don't play bad games pls translate

You're playing mafia though.

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mastina dear

your reads kinda suck and you should sheep my list.

go talk to eddie about it plz ty.

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I don't want to lynch varsoon either. I want to omgus until he stops info lynching us and then do a new wagon that isn't crap like the current ones

mastinas probably gonna town case kise tn btw. she's been posting stuff in our pt but I think she wants to finish reading and compile it.

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leon thanks for the work now get on kise plz.

purple this shit with reck is as dumb as your shit with math cut it out.

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what the fuck guys some nice person went through the effort to write 2739 sheep that shit jesus

(the writer should sheep themselves too!)

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what the fuck guys some nice person went through the effort to write 2739 sheep that shit jesus

(the writer should sheep themselves too!)

VOTE: Kise

I didn't expect you to be the one to rally but thanks.

reck/chess/purple come back to the justice wagon.

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maki switch to kise plz, pp is scum too but it won't be happening today.

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what the fuck guys some nice person went through the effort to write 2739 sheep that shit jesus

(the writer should sheep themselves too!)

VOTE: Kise

no justice no peace
I didn't expect you to be the one to rally but thanks.

reck/chess/purple come back to the justice wagon.

YOU'RE VOTING RECK YOU SHITHEAD

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why aren't you tunnelling a scum pool like you normally do by 2/3 through d1 mulch?

I WONDER WHY PURPLE
WHAT HAS ELLI BEEN SAYING ALL DAY
ALL
FUCKING
DAY

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woohoo updates

Scum are {Mulch, Kise, PenguinPower} + some subset of:

Yume
Chesskid3
Smocaine
Lil Uzi Vert
ChikoritasInAction

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is it only me against lurker PL that gives us no associations? Cause i feel people really starting consider PP lynch

this isn't a good reason to not lynch pp. a LOT of scum lurk, and our job is to lynch the scummy people. associations we can get by ppl defending PP, but we don't really need them.

we're doing kise first, come on aboard.

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Hey Luv, iso leonshade and then vote kise.

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its the not town pool not the scum pool
scum poolers get special brackets like mulch, kise, and pp

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hey creature did you read leon's post.
if you did and you still feel the way you do ignore your feelings and join the JUSTICEWAGON

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None. I want to wagon chikoritas

we not lynching CiA

Give me an alternative to Kise?

We're lynching Reck people

fuck you

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Ok have I missed anything in the past couple days or is the gamestate still in the same relative place?

Ok 4 posts showed up in this p-edit what the fuck is going on ITT?

iso leon
vote kise

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Ok have I missed anything in the past couple days or is the gamestate still in the same relative place?

Ok 4 posts showed up in this p-edit what the fuck is going on ITT?

iso leon
vote kise

oh your already voting him my b

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you're*

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we need 5 more

maki, luv, leon, reck, wheme come come

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I keep waffling between these two things

town!kise = scum!eli
scum!kise = scum!mulch


and


kise is town either way because if mulch is town he correctly read him and if mulch is scum he's trying to set up his mislynch afterwards or gain townread off the lynch


thoughts?

they're both scum and elli is good at reading people
thoughts?

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SOMEONE FORCED ME TO TARGET EITHER A PARTICULAR PERSON OR NOONE AT ALL WITH MY ABILITY LAST NIGHT LOL

VOTE: MULCH

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also that crier chick's art is pretty cute.

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also that crier chick's art is pretty cute.

Ohya is second best.

i'm breaking my don't engage scum rule for this

who's best girl

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oh damn who is this tae takemi chick
is there a pc version of this shit

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This me getting engaged with the flavor.

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"friends"

rude

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HEY GUYUS LET ME CHECK SOMETHING

woohoo updates

Scum are {Mulch, Kise, PenguinPower} + some subset of:

Yume
Chesskid3
Smocaine
Lil Uzi Vert
ChikoritasInAction

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE ONLY TWO PEOPLE YOU SHOULD BE VOTING RIGHT NOW MHM

[Ellibereth]

leon this is a good fucking partnership if you feel like writing a blurb about one of them again.

[Ellibereth]

SOMEONE FORCED ME TO TARGET EITHER A PARTICULAR PERSON OR NOONE AT ALL WITH MY ABILITY LAST NIGHT LOL

VOTE: MULCH

Also
I'm reiterating this

please discuss

[Ellibereth]

It's fine

I'm fine with the penguin wagon since it's on scum too.

But Mulch is MY personal justice wagon.

And also

who did I soft that I would target yesterday hmmmm
HMMMMMM
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

and why did I get forced to go to someone who could potentially have a dangerous role
hmmmm
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Ellibereth]

the mod told me right after night started

that I had to target [NAME WHICH I KINDA GAVE AWAY] and if I didn't I would be roleblocked.

[Ellibereth]

for example, if reck became an ic that would help my reads immensely.

purple i'm going to teach you one of my secret tricks
peretend reck is an IC

WHOA
BOOM

[Ellibereth]

why you have him as town

[Ellibereth]

why you have him as town

3099 isn't responding tot his btw

I've no reason to suspect him, seems townie enough on tone, cw would be a point but with almost all the same voters not really. too tired to case gn

go look at the completed kilos theme, in particular how the d1 wick vs. bins wagon situations were (there's some commentary about it in game d2 and 3 too, some from yours truly I think. either that or chess or hito.) and then compare it to your previous post with those cv's and report back to me.

#homework

[Ellibereth]

yo varsoon how long are the days going to be for your blitz theme

[Ellibereth]

VOTE: Mulch

More after lectures.

I SEE YOU TOO ARE A MAN OF CULTURE

[Ellibereth]

Yo chika here.

Spoiler: Identity

I'm the cute chick who knows that Mulch is scum.

Spoiler: Ability

My ability is to know that Mulch is scum.

Spoiler: Fakeclaims

Mulch has a fakeclaim because he's scum

Spoiler: Location

I exist within

the real world

, by default. If I am removed from the real world, I will not be able to use my abilities. Did I mentio n that Mulch was scum

Spoiler: Arcana

I hold

the Mulchisscum arcana

, to be taken if Akira Kurusu collects from me.
I do not know any other information about this arcana.

Spoiler: Target

I targeted

WhemeStar

. This player may choose to reveal who they targeted, if anyone, without claiming the rest of their role information to themselves.
By the time this message is publishes, I will already have received the flavour results of this players target, if any. As explained earlier, I intend to reveal this information anonymously through my next cryer action shown

at the beginning of day 3

. Is there anything else left to say? Like that someone is scum? Nope I don' think so.