At page 7, I am not a fan of Thesp's vehemence here. Also, it's ceteris paribus, not parabis, Thesp.
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Stoofs, does rule 17 apply to possible daykills?
'Cause I don't think that's a logical assumption, Skruffs.
And I really want to test Thesp's ability, because I don't trust him one bit. It also seems unlikely to me that Thesp would be Guardian's buddy.
I strongly believe erg0 is scum and I trust Thesp as far as I can throw a slab of marble. I don't believe your characterisation is accurate and I want you to point out who is guilty of this attitude. Because I'm not seeing it.Skruffs wrote:I am wary of asking thesp to use his attack on erg0, I am getting the impression that the people who are blarghing for erg0 vigging don't care wether thesp or erg0 is town or not. What I mean is, there's not forethought here, there is just people calling for blood.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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I think there's a very real chance that you're lying about having a daykill, Thesp. Your roleclaim is otherwise weak and it's not actually beneficial for the town to use that ability if it didn't confim you had it. Frankly, if erg0 wasn't obv scum, there's a good argument for not risking it.
Right. Because we wouldn't just lynch him the next day. That would make too much sense.Skruffs wrote:Erg0's scum buddy(ies) are probably hoping he can't day vig, which is probablay the basis of the 'pressuring' on him.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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We haven't seen any vampire scum kills though, so, as I'm seeing it, either it's a cult, it's all misdirection by Stoofsy or maybe a non-evil vampire role. Cult still seems overpowered. Third option seems most likely to me.
I personally think Buffy makes even less sense as vanilla now. Vampire Protector would be much more natural a role.
So yeah, nothing much has changed in my view.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Ibaesha was replaced Night 1, UA.
Erg0 is still scum, kiddo. The rest is irrelevant.UA wrote:There are people who believe Thesp should kill according to Town consensus. Right now, the Town consensus is he should kill Erg0, whom Guardian said was scum. Think about that for a secondScumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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I don't believe he has this ability and if he doesn't have this ability, he is certainly scum, but hey that's no reason to test him right?Claus wrote:That said, I still think thesp is lying about his power. So I'm also not going to chant "thesp! Kill X!" because I believe he can't.
I'm not supporting the Plan because I don't trust Thesp with the ability, but because I don't trust Thesp and think it likely he's lying.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Even though, as you correctly point out, they're not really neutral, I would argue that it is still a useful and practical distinction and will continue to refer to them as neutral.Thesp wrote:While sometimes mods will characterize a role as neutral, there is no such thing as a neutral role.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Gorrad, we basically got to that point, but Thesp didn't want to vig Erg0, which is why we're switching to Thesp.
We get Thesp to L-2 and tell him to vig Erg0. Basically the same idea, but this way, if he can't vig, we can lynch him straight away.
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Um. No.MrBuddyLee wrote:
I am.Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Why aren't you voting for Thesp, MBL?FOS: CES
Well, you didn't kill erg0, so I think you'll have a hard time arguing you said yes.Thesp wrote:When did I say no?Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Sure, Rosenberg.
Iammars had no reason to claim at this time. There was no reason to tie a possible fake claim to Erg0, especially considering Erg0's inevitable demise.UA wrote:Does it not strike you as odd at all that only after Erg0(Pirate) popped his Buffy claim that Mars also gave us a Vampire-based claim? Cus it should.
Iammars claim makes him more likely to be town at this point in the game, definitely. Anyone who says otherwise, should be shot.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Well, you called him scum a couple of times. Um, yay for you? Heck, I called him scum too. I don't really see this as relevant at all.Thesp wrote:I could have sworn I'd brought attention to Skruffs (who later turned out to be scum via MBL)
Led a crapwagon Iammars, sure, I'll give you that.Thesp wrote:helped keep the ball rolling D1
I don't particularly remember this and will withhold comment until re-reading.Thesp wrote:joined the bandwagon against Kaleidoscope
Padding your resumee, much? This is completely irrelevant.Thesp wrote:drawn strong attacks from another scum (Guardian)
How to lie with italics: Claiming credit for something we forced you to do. You played a small role in getting obv scum Erg0 killed.Thesp wrote:daykilledscum Erg0 (whom I also supported the lynch of)
Baseless assertions: still not particularly useful.Thesp wrote:and brought attention to RogueBen and mikeburnfire (whom I think are also likely scum, and neither had received much substantive attention until then).
Well, sorry of focussing on scumbags. Also, comparing yourself to someone who just replaced(not to mention the other differences between the two of us) is not exactly intellectually honest.Thesp wrote:Meanwhile, you've said almost nothing on anyone except Erg0 and I (with the recent exception of comments on Iammars). My apologies for not being helpful.
I've disagreed with me on quite a few issues, but his play here does not substantially from his play as I remember it in Lights Out 2. I see no reason to suspect him at this point.Thesp wrote:What do you think about mikeburnfire?
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That is why I am doing more reading, as I mentioned previously.Thesp wrote:You, however, are still refraining from making substantive moves on anyone today. Who do you think is scum? Beth guesses? Seriously, I feel like you're posting, but just wasting time.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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What's kind of sad (for me, at least) is that I really have been reading, but I can't seem to find scum. Mike's townness is still useful info, but I don't really have much to go on, currently. And noone is making a case against anyone(apart from the lame "rogueben isn't contributing") either.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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I have some trouble buying a Garfunkel-claim. I doubt Stoofer is so creatively impaired he couldn't come up with a better mason pair than Simon and Garfunkel. They're kind of old and forgotten.
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Looking over the entirety of Mgm's posting, I don't agree with your theory, Thesp. Mgm never votes for or mentions Jordan. More than anything, I think it's just his knowledge speaking. He's looking for ninjas, so he's more likely to think he sees one.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Well, my current point of view is:Thesp wrote:CES, what do you think of other things and people? Have some guesses for us?
Obv town:
CES
Cleared by role:
ooba
Thesp
Tends towards town:
cicero
The Fonz (his play here is markedly different from Smalltown)
Which leaves:
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Lawrencelot
Kison
Ultima Avalon
as scum, but I'm having real troubles differentiating between these four.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Do you doubt that I think pirates are awesome?
More importantly:Mr Stoofer wrote:# Xtoxm (replaced Sir Tornado) - Bruce Lee (Ninja Protector) - Lightsabered Night 2
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# Thok - Gandalf (Goblin Protector) - arm cleanly sliced off and skulled bashed in Night 3Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Oh snap. I totally didn't mean to suggest I was the pirate protector. I was just showing, that if I were scum, I could kill with impunity.
Fonz, the point is that if I had been aware of mike's role as lie detector, I would've had nothing to fear as I could just kill him at night. At that point I would surely comply with his request, no?Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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More information is not always a good thing, cicero.
We aren't going to win this game without a scum crosskill. If the mass claim gives us any insight into alignment, then that'll probably lead to scum killing the wrong people.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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If you're voting "yay", then I'd like to see you respond to this:
My vote is a definite "nay".I wrote:If the mass claim gives us any insight into alignment, then that'll probably lead to scum killing the wrong people.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Actually, The Fonz, the best bet is to try and lynch a Goblin. They still have nk immunity from Ninjas, so that would still leave Ninjas 2 nks away from victory.
A mass claim is bad. Pirate Protector is still going to draw a nightkill, as he is unlynchable.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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