Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Now sell me on Freedom.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'll use once Vecna checks in again.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You're not scum hunting Math. You're just demanding us to resolve something that will obviously resolve on its own.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

There is nothing to talk about. You either believe me or RC.

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Scum have Lover Wonder probably lol

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Hmm if this was yesterday I would vote Autocracy.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Much better.

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Who's scum then?

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Alisae

MathBlade

Leonshade
Gorkington

Creature

RadiantCowbells

Caesar Wills It

Lil Uzi Vert

Vecna

CommKnight

NoticeMeSenpai

ThinkBig

PoE out?

Jae if you still think I'm town you would have to believe this.

Or believe Vecna/PV is the 5th from your POV.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If you're still town reading Ceasar/Leon than you're out of slots.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No I need to know from Jae specifically because if they still town read me, that has to be the scum team for them by PoE.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

And it literally doesn't make sense as a team at all.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Scum team decided to all lurk other and then night kill their own as a game plan?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Scum team decided to all lurk and then night kill their own as a game plan?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

lololol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Do me/Gork/Vecna make sense with Ceasar? I would think not.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Where do you go when I flip town?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Read PV's case on me and Creature, that rules us out.

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Math I am obvious town by meta alone and how I've opened today.

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Lmao was I even in Timeshift? What the fuck? loll

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I'm not cooperating because the scum team literally PoE'd by one of the only people still reading me is right POV doesn't make sense. Something is most likely up.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Oh I forgot I was in Timeshift? Was I scum? lol

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What I'm being told is that Vecna, Leon, Elbrin, Kyuko, signed off to kill PV.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What I'm being told is that Vecna, Leon, Elbrin, Kyouko, signed off to kill PV.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Kyouko would never agree and neither would Elbrin.

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Vecna is the only one who would even think of such a gambit out of the group but I don't think he could convince those two.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Personality and experience.

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Well damn I'll be lol

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Move on from James and find someone else to vote, because the only people with any notice for killing a claimed cop on d1 is Scum.

Not true. He's a 1-shot cop. He could screw up his one shot. He's not a big loss. If his claim is true and we lynched him, big deal. It would be worth it not to listen to his snippiness for the entire game. I'd be willing to lynch him just so the rest of the game can be fun.

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@MOD Is this game bastard?

This game lives in Theme Park. Abandon preconceived notions.

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I want to hear from both him and James, since I haven't seen an explanation as to why he'd claim on his first post when he's a 1-shot cop

Not reading the game pings my scumdar.

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VOTE: Sly

I don't like this. I doubt the claim but just because it isn't an amazing role or can easily dealt with doesn't mean he wouldn't be a significant loss. If he's town, policy lynching him basically means we're going to being losing a voter on our side and gifting scum a wagon to pile on that won't do us any good to analyze since policy lynch wagons always laugh at VCA.

Why is his claim preventing you from having fun? Would you rather talk about something else? If so, what?

This is a scum!Uzi post. I haven't made one post like this all game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

A.) RC likes to gambit.
B.) I want to hear from more people.
C.) I know I'm town and with you and everyone else having me on their PoE teams, I know y'all are fucking up. I want to fix that.

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Wait before you go, how did you even go from reading me based on how I played as scum with Vecna in PyP to a game I subbed out of the middle of Day 1 due to disinterest?

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All are so bad, like None is the best but scum are so ahead they don't care if they openly scum claim repeatedly.

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Order is irrelevant at that stage I feel and hurts the town that are part of neigborhoods.

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There is no case on me. It's just NAI bull which is why pushing on me should confirm what we all suspect.

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There is no case on me. It's just NAI bull which is why pushing on me should confirm what we all suspect.

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Also, Comm, no. I will not stop talking because to call me scum here is insulting. I know Math means no harm but it is still annoying.

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You can clearly see whose voting what Leon, make your own conclusions.

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We're going to spend a long time with Ceasar today. The day ends with him being sorted or lynched.

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Why wouldn't a scum team rush to get straight to the Voting phase? This is MYLO.

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Freedom in this case I feel scum can freely push because they know they can use it as ammo against the members of the town who opposed it for when we can actually vote.

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Not claiming, sorry.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If I claimed vig already, why would I restate?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I didn't retract anything, I said I'm not claiming.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You're taking me being difficult with Vecna as retracting.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No point in continuing now since people just ruin things. I fake claimed in order to hopefully sort everyone on the Nero.

I attempted to build a Wonder (will not say which) last night and was told very shortly that I failed. I believe I was blocked.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

So me and RC had both strongly hinted that we were going after Ruhr Valley yesterday and it was generally accepted that Nero would be the lynch. If we look at the claims chart Math made, the scum team either is maxed out or wanted me to believe that I would be the player with the highest player going into Night 5. Due to the lack of multiple kills and the mods breakdown of how priority works, I'm going to assume the former.

So I'm feeling good after I submit for Ruhr thinking there is no way I miss out on it and the likelihood of me getting blocked seemed very slim. I was on 4/5 mislynches and the scum reads I had (ABR, Sondam, and Kid/Yuri) turned out to be majorly wrong. I've also been scum read by the wrong people which just ended up contributing to the overall lack of the will to reread. I had no credibility and was on the wrong track. I should've gotten Ruhr last night unless mod is bastard but I don't think they are. Which begs the question, if RC isn't fake claiming, why would a majority of the proposed scum team who knows what he is capable of, give him a better chance of building the Wonder? Why put so much on emphasis on me? Simple! Scum felt I knew too much based on the theories that I threw out yesterday.

So I've concluded that either one of Alisae, RC, or Notice is scum. However it could be Vecna. I knew he was keeping track of things and strategizing before he posted his Google spreadsheet. He loves doing that stuff and it is how we destroyed town in PyP. If he's scum, he took Forbidden Palace as sort of a pseudo role blocking like role in case I ever publicly announce when I was building a Wonder and deduced that I was telling the truth yesterday. This is one of the reasons why I thought about Vecna as a Big Ben target. It also is why I reacted to Math throwing out what I suspected.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If you're town, you have have to wonder RC's motivation for counterclaiming here. If PV isn't scum, we're in MYLO. He has the crowd backing and knows he could possibly swing a lynch in my favor without even using the Wonder. He could also have had one of his partners took Bolshoi Theater and have loverized me.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Now if we look at who I was proposing as the scum team yesterday, there is only really two people with motivation to block me. Caesar and Leon.

Cloud had gone through some hoops to discredit me by misremembering past games in order to try to prove to whoever his meta read on me. He had also subbed out before I had claimed to submit. Comn's entrance was fairly town and the only way he could've blocked me was if the rest of his partners caught up quickly. However, even that theory doesn't really check out considering the skill level of the proposed scum team.

Gork has no reason to block me as scum because I've gone on record hard town reading Vecna and saying that I trust his read on him. He would also be more concerned with Math or nancy based on interactions in my opinion.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Now if you're crazy like Math and still think I'm scum, riddle me this. Why has no one attempted to seriously hard defend me other than Vecna? The only people who've been strongly town reading me have been Creature, Notice, and Vecna. If I was scum, wouldn't I have had more defenders come to my aid as well as more resistance?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Vecna hasn't even really been defending me. Just constantly siting his experience with me as the basis of his strong town read.

This should tell you that I'm not part of a scum team who is avoiding bussing each other but that I'm town who is as ABR calls it, in the process of being endgamed.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Now if we look at who I was proposing as the scum team yesterday, there is only really two people with motivation to block me. Caesar and Leon.

Cloud had gone through some hoops to discredit me by misremembering past games in order to try to prove to whoever his meta read on me. He had also subbed out before I had claimed to submit. Comn's entrance was fairly town and the only way he could've blocked me was if the rest of his partners caught him up quickly. However, even that theory doesn't really check out considering the skill level of the proposed scum team.

Gork has no reason to block me as scum because I've gone on record hard town reading Vecna and saying that I trust his read on him. He would also be more concerned with Math or nancy based on interactions in my opinion.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

So you see, the question shouldn't be in regards to Resolutions that benefit scum more than town, it should be about who on the scum team felt letting RC potentially grab Ruhr was worth the risk?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Just work with me here for a second Math.

{Alisae, Ceasar, Cloud, Gork, Leon, Notice, and Vecna}

Who do you think would have the most motivation to block me and why?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Now if your answer to all this is WIFOM, that is a lazy and poor excuse. If your answer is that I needed to draw out a claim, consider that you also have me as scum as Vecna. There would be no reason for me to try to draw out the real vigilante because I would've already deduced it if we were on the same team.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I still dont get it LUV - why do you keep stating RC is "counterclaiming" if you were blocked and didnt get the vig.

People need to stop being so vague so we can figure out what exactly happened.

You wanted to take the vig, but what happened?

Be complete and concrete please LUV.

I just explained that I didn't get it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Just work with me here for a second Math.

{Alisae, Ceasar, Cloud, Gork, Leon, Notice, and Vecna}

Who do you think would have the most motivation to block me and why?

Why would I do your job for you? I have thought about the answer to that question but reached the conclusion you are more likely scum. Why don't you try putting your thoughts towards that question out here?

*resist urge to be mean*

I already did. I just did. I am asking you in order to sort you and others.

I already know who is most likely. I wanna know what you think and see how others react to your thinking.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Comm please stop, really not in the mood to explain why I've been scum read for over 700 pages and why I am acting the way I am.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

People are not understanding context at all. Players were forced to essentially do Nero or be ignored for the last two day phases.

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What are the hell are you talking about? I've explained every scum read up until about the end of Day 3 when I really lost motivation.

I floated theories ever since and explained why I had Nero as town. He was so obvious town from his tunnel on you early on in the game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You think I have something to gain by asking you to tell me what you think about my theory?

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Creature I just explained why I fake claimed. I'm not vigilante.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I was trying to sort those on the Nero wagon for reactions.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's like taking a group of players who have been low in the radar and saying they're all town. It assumes scum played all god-like.

Vecna and LUV have been playing god like and I haven't.

This isn't even close to God like play..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Math when I flip I want you to agree that you don't know to read me and never will. Deal?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Creature I just explained why I fake claimed. I'm not vigilante.

I was trying to sort those on the Nero wagon for reactions.

No you weren't.

You would know that lying is downright suicide when I was setting up accountability plans.

I told you I was doing my own thing yesterday the minute I voted for Ceasar.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If I flip scum I will admit you're the greatest mafia player ever and worship the ground you walk in.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Freedom

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No. I'm done.

I don't care anymore and I want to prove you wrong so bad.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: RC

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I don't think Vecna is scum Math. Should look at LUV though. Why does he claim roleblocked?

I say he has been a wonder all along, The Lighthouse. He IS the scum's daychat person.

Also, what happened N3??? NO SCUM KILLS? Who did you RB then Creature? Come on, let's catch them Commie bastards!

Wait, RC claimed dayvig?

Then WTF was LUV?

I think LUV is Lighthouse

(scum day chat) and pretending to fail.

VOTE: Freedom - I think this is the wrong choice by the way. But I'm comfortable with lynching scum today.

Sounds right Math.

I figured out he's Lighthouse

already and I just replaced in today.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

There's no fucking guilty.

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There's no fucking guilty.

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There's no fucking guilty.

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There's no fucking guilty.

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There's no fucking guilty.

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There's no fucking guilty.

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There's no fucking guilty.

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Can you all read? He thinks I have it, he doesn't know shit.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Speculation.

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Why the fuck is he softing a guilty when there is a known doc still alive in Notice?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My 15 minutes it's over. I'm going to resume my shift.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Can everyone on my wagon agree to be permabanned when I flip town? Y'all should be ashamed.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Like Math you want to be right so bad it's almost Bellevue scary.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

If the scum team is some variation of what Nero was proposing before being lynched, I hope y'all can live with going to the extremes just to win a game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

But hey everyone has their style of scum play, is what it is.

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Congrats scum!

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Shoutout to Nahdia for being an awesome mod!

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Lol Notice didn't attempt to derp tell <
Drixx wouldn't replace out as scum or gambit like that <
Ceasar isn't scum lolol <

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Oh and best part, hoods benfit town <<<

Lololol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV if it makes you feel any better I'm sorry.

It does a little

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I was just bad

Like ugh :/

Like LUV is right I suck at mafia and LUV I can never read.

@LUV work for you?

Lol Notice didn't attempt to derp tell <
Drixx wouldn't replace out as scum or gambit like that <
Ceasar isn't scum lolol <

lUV is an amazing Mafia God who I can never ever ever read.
M@LUV there you go

Translation I am sorry

lol it's okay Math I forgive <3

I'm just glad I stepped away from the keyboard when I did.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Luv let's just forever tr each other k friend it'll make life easy on both of us
I'm salty gerry self voted on me before I came back

Deaaaal!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Like the reads I got right were simply based on logic and the ones I got wrong this time was tone.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Even if we did that, it wouldn't have been enough RC. People were just pocketed so hard.

Misread Kyouko but read Cloud right.
Read Brain right
Caught Notice early and Ceasar based on logic.
Misread Elbrin, Gin, and Gork.

The problem is I just don't have the will to try to lead and just get frustrated when people don't see things.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I played pretty bad though because after ABR and Sondam I knew I had zero credibility.

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Lol yo I'm on my lunch break trying to find the gulity I'm like wtf

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I was like okay let me just bold then Creature and Leon just wtf hop on

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Oh and nancy me and Vecna is an actual soul read thing :p

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I didn't mean to insult you or make you feel bad Math until the very last moments. I just wanted you to see that I'm town, reevaluate, and not to foolishly clear people off of stuff like that. When I voted for Freedom though, that's when I was so tempted to say mean shit.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Oh and yeah wouldn't say scum played well but as someone said earlier, scum was just able to control the game state so well.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol Notice didn't attempt to derp tell <
Drixx wouldn't replace out as scum or gambit like that <
Ceasar isn't scum lolol <

On my own I wouldn't have attempted to derp tell ftr

Also going through and commenting on these and realizing that mastina already picked up what I want to comment on <3 <3 <3 mastina <3 <3 <3

Lmao it was clever :p

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Oh and yeah wouldn't say scum played well but as someone said earlier, scum was just able to control the game state so well.

HOW IS THIS NOT PLAYING WELL

It's not playing well because that is fairly easy to do depending on the playerlist. Your predesscor did not play well at all.

Ceasar lurked and hid behind role playing.
Notice pocketed Alisae and their girlfriend nancy, tried to fake town tell.
Cloud tried to discredit me and had a bad push on Leon.

Gork I couldn't read at all being honest.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

However you took advantage of the situation RC so I guess you did well lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lol for me personally, to get that played well kind of feel, I have to like not have ever seriously suspected you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

:p

I read the dead and scum threads now lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

That's what I try to aim for as scum. Works often enough but sometimes you get PoE out.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Scum thread 64 pages xd

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Even if we did that, it wouldn't have been enough RC. People were just pocketed so hard.

Misread Kyouko but read Cloud right.
Read Brain right
Caught Notice early and Ceasar based on logic.
Misread Elbrin, Gin, and Gork.

The problem is I just don't have the will to try to lead and just get frustrated when people don't see things.

I see the constant 'lol' every 2-3 posts and can't take you seriously.

Damn Dave

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Atomic and Informatin Era

Nahdia these are broken for scum lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I've beaten scum Pine before! :p

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Mastina what I'm trying to say is how each player approached the game and certain things the did given the context wasn't skillfully. I agree with the rest however.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Mastina what I'm trying to say is how each player approached the game and certain things they did given the context wasn't skillfully. I agree with the rest however.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I've beaten scum Pine before! :p

AHH BHABHABHA

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. YOU'VE NEVER BEATEN US, TOGETHER!

One day! You just wait!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Lmaooo

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Ali: I didn't get a chance to catch you in Hogwarts because Cloud was being dumb and I was tunneled on Not Mafia. I didn't get a chance to catch you in White Flag because I subbed out due to everyone being mean to Riley.

@Gin: Lol I don't even know what for, I think it was for one your pushes.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

lol I'm reading scum chat and Mastina thinks I'm lynch bait

But why does she think buddying works on me??

[Lil Uzi Vert]

hey uzi, let's be buddies

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Oh I read the hoods chat too, God the maliupation. I think Ceasar's was the most obvious bull.

Also RC I don't have an ego loo

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Gold!

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Lol Pine your location was literally the scum PT

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You had more posts in there than I've seen you had on site in weeks lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

LUV, you didn't comment on my tie

I wanted the gold or even blue. Purple is just so, meh.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This one hurts Kid but just learn and grow from it. It's easy to just blacklist Math and be done with it but this loss doesn't completely fall on them.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Also, for anyone still hating on Math. Remember this. NO ONE corrected Math on me softing a role that I never softed in the first place. It takes more than one to tango. This entire game was swingy. Like seriously, all the different roles to pick from and town prioritized... Pyramid (a scummy wonder to take as town) and neighbourizer wonders.

lol I bolded shit and still nothing

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yeah I fake claimed hoping town would force RC to shoot and just got crickets..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

All of these Wonders just suck to be honest. Modern Era should give us better ones.

My other two scum games on my wiki are more indicative of how I play scum.

@A&N: These Wonders suck. Wait for the Modern Era!

Modern Era will probably bring more complex and unique roles that could potentially help with alignment sorting.

In the beginning, legends of flying men soared. And today, you are on the brink of transforming those legends into a reality. With flight and new forms of communication you can create a small and intimate world. But at what cost? Our competing ideas of how to govern and how to live threaten to bring conflict on a global scale. You must choose your own path through this rising din of ideological oratory.

The following wonders are available for construction during the Modern Era. Please submit build requests privately via PM.
Due to the effects of Natural Heritage Sites, wonders presented during the Industrial Era may be built as well.

The Kremlin	Each night, you may target a player to learn how many game-related private topics they are a member of, including both factional topics and topics since closed.
Cristo Redentor	Each night, target a player. If your target dies during the night, you will create a private topic with them which will last the following full cycle (day/night).
Broadway	Each day, you may create either two 2-member neighborhoods or one 3-member neighborhood which will last only for that night phase. This may be done in the twilight phase. You do not personally need to be a member of these neighborhoods.

Ancient Era | Classical Era | Medieval Era | Renaissance Era | Industrial Era | Modern Era

It is currently the Resolution Phase. Votes to lynch may not be cast until resolutions have been dealt with. The following Resolution is on the table:

World Ideology

• Freedom

  :
  Going forward, all new private topics, as well as factional private topics, will never be locked.
  
• Order

  :
  All private topics are immediately closed. Neighborizing & encrypting abilities are converted to courier abilities (details specified to the owners of such abilities).
  
• Autocracy

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  Going forward, All private topics are made public and released to the game thread as soon as they expire.
  
• None
  : No event.

Lmaoo little did we know it be too late then.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I was just so paranoid of scum just gaining more advantage.

One of things this game taught me is that I should care a little more mechanics and try not to tune it out.