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Post Post #2119 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:59 am

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VOTE: James
Hello.
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Post Post #2123 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:33 am

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Could be.
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Post Post #2124 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:37 am

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VOTE: Ram
This is one of my 2 scumreads while I was reading day 2 I still need to do a lot of day 1
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Post Post #2125 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:38 am

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Well I got this sr from earlyish day 1 didn't go away on day 2.
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Post Post #2127 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:44 am

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Interesting.
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Post Post #2201 (isolation #5) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:05 am

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This doesn't seem like RC's town game that I've played with so much before but I'm sure I'll get it right at some point If there's not a scum in pere/RC I'd be a bit shocked. in the mean time
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2206 (isolation #6) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:39 am

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In post 2205, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait what the hell why is there scum between me and PeregrineV? What singles us out as the likely scum block ??? Like I townread Fire exclusively for the replace out but I think you're in a scum slot now.
Because I have a bit of a sr on you both but I doubt you're teamed I figure I'll be able to get a read on you in time and with that I'll be able to know the scum within the 2 of you.
Yes I was voting Ram but I forogt why I was sring him
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Post Post #2207 (isolation #7) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:42 am

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You had a nice reaction though. props to that.
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Post Post #2221 (isolation #8) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:58 am

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In post 2213, Nero Cain wrote:Do you have any town reads Elena?
Not really.
In post 2215, RadiantCowbells wrote:Elena why do I get the feeling that you're scum again?
I don't know RC why do you?
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:12 am

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Well RC's the closest thing to a tr to have so that's accurate
VOTE: Pere
I want to see where this goes
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #10) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:40 am

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In post 2225, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2223, Elena Fisher wrote:Well RC's the closest thing to a tr to have so that's accurate
VOTE: Pere
I want to see where this goes
Is this based on your catch-up read or lack of catch-up read?
Neither
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Post Post #2236 (isolation #11) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:51 am

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bwhahaha the james wagon is really a thing oh I am enjoying this.
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #12) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:54 am

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James lives for today and today only.
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:26 am

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TTTT
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2 I sr 2 are good info lynches take your pick we lynch in there
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Post Post #2249 (isolation #14) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:29 am

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Sly Ram
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #15) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:33 am

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Didn't like his early day 1 and saw nothing to change my mind.
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #16) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:33 am

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What made you townread him?
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #17) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:34 am

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In post 2253, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2247, Elena Fisher wrote:TTTT
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You couldn't pay me to lynch any of them at this point.
Could've just said why friend
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:35 am

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I perosnally don't really have much of a read on TTTT but from what I can see his flip will shed a lot of light
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Post Post #2257 (isolation #19) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:35 am

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RC why do you scumread me you should be able to read me best here.
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Post Post #2261 (isolation #20) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:44 am

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In post 2259, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2255, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 2253, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2247, Elena Fisher wrote:TTTT
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2 I sr 2 are good info lynches take your pick we lynch in there
You couldn't pay me to lynch any of them at this point.
Could've just said why friend
You said you haven't read, so unless you are going to make something up, why would you have or give reasons?
So you think I'm making this up?
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Post Post #2263 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:04 am

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In post 2262, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2261, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 2259, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2255, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 2253, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2247, Elena Fisher wrote:TTTT
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2 I sr 2 are good info lynches take your pick we lynch in there
You couldn't pay me to lynch any of them at this point.
Could've just said why friend
You said you haven't read, so unless you are going to make something up, why would you have or give reasons?
So you think I'm making this up?
I have no clue. You haven't said why for any of them. The "James lives" is obvious, 2247 is not.

If you need to hear the question: "Why, Elena Fisher, are 2 of those players good info lynches, and why are 2 of them scumreads?"

:neutral:
I thought you would never ask Pere! I will say the only vote I "made up" was my james vote but I think TTTT is in a lot of peoples crosshairs and having them him it around for a long time will not be good I think getting rid of him will overall be good he could be scum and that'd be great but he could be town and maybe some people can rethink I semi want to lynch you because I thought there was a scum in you /RC and right now I'm leaning torwards you I'll have to re read you yourself a bit before I can give an answer on that I already explain why I sr Ram and I think Sly scumclaimed with his james vote and his "I don't really care" type of way even if he won't admit it
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:18 pm

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In post 2266, RadiantCowbells wrote:Elena you feel exaggerated and kind of forced and that's how you felt when you replaced into 1769. And I was scumreading Firebringer when he was in game so.
huh strange I feel fine. You're wrong just play it out and you should be able to see that for yourself...Unless you're scum :lol:
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Post Post #2317 (isolation #23) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:50 am

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In post 2289, RadiantCowbells wrote:I still don't townread you Elena because you feel like you're trying to force yourself to be abrupt but I want Nero dead and I'd like you to vote him with me.
Can you give more detail? Also if you think I'm scum I don't really understand why you're talking to me of all people of giving a vote.
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Post Post #2390 (isolation #24) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:14 am

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RC vs Vifam is town vs TOWN
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #25) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:15 am

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I'm pretty sure those requirements are met.
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Post Post #2395 (isolation #26) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:16 am

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Stop it shhhh let peace keeper Elena end this silly talk shhh children
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Post Post #2397 (isolation #27) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:16 am

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In post 2394, Vifam wrote:VOTE: RC
THIS IS THE OPPISATE OF MY REQUEST :cry:
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Post Post #2398 (isolation #28) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:17 am

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Fire doesn't seem like a person to replace out in anger as scum (I feel like I have zero reason to say this cause I'm his slot but...eh)
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Post Post #2401 (isolation #29) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:18 am

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Let's lynch Sly or TTTT come on
VOTE: TTTT
Pedit: This one
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #30) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:18 am

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Did you ever answer my question RC?
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Post Post #2406 (isolation #31) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:20 am

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In post 2400, Vifam wrote:
In post 2396, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean yeah I really don't see the point in you even caring what Scum!Firebringer would do in the case of Scum!Vifam because if you're town it's a meaningless discussion.
You said he was bussing me I counter with the argument that he wouldn't do that as scum in the first place cuz it doesn't make sense and now all of a sudden it's a meaningless discussion when you're the one who started it @___@
Hello yes it is me Elena how about you join the TTTT wagon OR give me a scum game of yours so I can read it. OR better yet both.
Pedit: Why did you want me to join a wagon with you when (if I'm not mistaken) you had a sr on me seems weird to ask me of all people
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Post Post #2407 (isolation #32) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:22 am

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@Vifam Hello yes I am read RC quite well I have played a few games with them if you would tell me what the main reasons for your sr are for as I tr them

@RC: You seem to be anger voting again
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Post Post #2413 (isolation #33) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:58 pm

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I like both of those votes though. Do you think TTTT is town?
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Post Post #2416 (isolation #34) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:01 pm

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Blinks...nods slowly
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Post Post #2474 (isolation #35) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:17 am

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I have no idea what you're saying RC tbh
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Post Post #2477 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:19 am

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In post 2475, Nero Cain wrote:Speaking of Elana-could you explain how you went from scumreading RC to townreading him?
He's got better with time.
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Post Post #2483 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 2479, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2477, Elena Fisher wrote:He's got better with time.
go on
He had a reaction that I saw in a game with him as town and he keeps mirroring it need more?
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Post Post #2490 (isolation #38) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:30 am

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In post 2203, RadiantCowbells wrote:Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
In post 2204, RadiantCowbells wrote:Can we play a game where people stop saying that they understand my meta?
In post 2205, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait what the hell why is there scum between me and PeregrineV? What singles us out as the likely scum block ??? Like I townread Fire exclusively for the replace out but I think you're in a scum slot now.
And I have not played with scum rc
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Post Post #2493 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:33 am

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You still don't know my main? Shame RC shame
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Post Post #2595 (isolation #40) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:36 pm

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VOTE: Ram
I want this I feel like were on a VERG wrong track I feel like town has been at each others throats and scum have been taking a back seat
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Post Post #2602 (isolation #41) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:39 pm

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In post 2596, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am really confident in the Vifam wagon Elena.
I'm not.
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Post Post #2604 (isolation #42) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:41 pm

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The top wagons this whole day have basically been the same no matter the bickering (RC Vifam SlySly somewhat TTTT)
This happens last game and guess what? Both wagons were town because scum were content with the way wagons were going so look for the wagon that's talked about but isn't going places or look for the scum that's more then likely outside it
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Post Post #2605 (isolation #43) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:43 pm

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In dumb man terms: We could be right but were more wrong then right.
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Post Post #2616 (isolation #44) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:54 pm

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I know you can't see it but I am rubbing my forehead in disappointment right now
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Post Post #2623 (isolation #45) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:59 pm

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I feel like anything you both say you'll find someway to be scummy in your eyes
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Post Post #2633 (isolation #46) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:07 pm

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I'm gonna play some league hopefully you guys get this little fighting match over with soon because you're both going to come to the same answer in your minds anyway.
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Post Post #2635 (isolation #47) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:11 pm

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Why is Pere or Fitz town again?
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Post Post #2672 (isolation #48) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:27 am

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You haven't been impressive ram to put it simple
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Post Post #2673 (isolation #49) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:29 am

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Slysly is also a great lynch
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Post Post #2675 (isolation #50) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:32 am

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:(
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Post Post #2694 (isolation #51) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:30 am

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At a loss at who to vote at the moment
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Post Post #2707 (isolation #52) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:35 pm

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VOTE: Sly Final choice
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #53) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:43 pm

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Vifam is town.
So is RC.
Maybe Tywin
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #54) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:48 pm

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And why's that
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Post Post #2761 (isolation #55) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:38 am

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VOTE: SSBM
I'll prob vote james the next day
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Post Post #2868 (isolation #56) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:22 am

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RC is town but if you wanna lynch town by all means
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Post Post #2871 (isolation #57) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:28 am

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In post 2869, Vifam wrote:Ok let's lynch ssb then whatever
That's where I'm voting.
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Post Post #2876 (isolation #58) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:32 am

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In post 2872, TTTT wrote:
In post 2868, Elena Fisher wrote:RC is town
yeah I have small doubts about scum!RC
but how are you so certain?
I've played with RC enough to know this is his town game plus his reaction to when I tried to pressure him seemed like something town him would do. Although I have never played with scum RC before.
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Post Post #2882 (isolation #59) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:49 am

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In post 2880, TTTT wrote:
In post 2771, TTTT wrote:
In post 2761, Elena Fisher wrote:VOTE: SSBM
I'll prob vote james the next day
why this vote?
I don't get why you'd join that wagon
given your prior reads
@Elena
:?: :?: :?:
Because I don't tr that wagon and would rather lynch it instead of my tr's unless you see a random slysly wagon coming up out of no where
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In post 2876, Elena Fisher wrote:I've played with RC enough to know this is his town game plus his reaction to when I tried to pressure him seemed like something town him would do. Although I have never played with scum RC before.
So you have no RC scum game to compare it to. Has he quit under pressure in your shared games?
No but I can see why he'd do it plus it's easy to read but on one of his scumgames.
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Post Post #2885 (isolation #60) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:03 am

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That wasn't the reaction I was talking about.
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Post Post #2904 (isolation #61) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:13 pm

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In post 2888, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2885, Elena Fisher wrote:That wasn't the reaction I was talking about.
Then what is you reaction to replacing out because he was scumread?
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Post Post #3123 (isolation #62) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:22 am

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VOTE: Comm

Still think Vifam/RC slot is town Almost 50 looks nice aswell so does Fliz TTTT was someone I was gonna tr but I looked at that game he linked and he plays quite well as scum so iffy to tr that slot.
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Post Post #3137 (isolation #63) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:50 am

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VOTE: James

I forgot james had the most shitty d1 ever and Ram attacked me for it when I voted him
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Post Post #3157 (isolation #64) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:20 am

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In post 2753, TTTT wrote:also ssbm denied he had knowledge about the accuracy of my reads
but in his scum-game with me I literally named both ssbm and his partner early in day1 in a scumpool of three players.
and he noted it in the scum PT
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Post Post #3176 (isolation #65) » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:50 am

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Why would scum want to save there button from a one shot cop Con would prob have to be a pretty big pr.
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Post Post #3538 (isolation #66) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:51 pm

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Oh look Nero flipped scum that was unexpected. James was obv scum only took my vote off because of the cop part...speaking of
VOTE: Ram
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Post Post #3539 (isolation #67) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:56 pm

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What's up Chara you're my top tr.
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Post Post #3541 (isolation #68) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:01 pm

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:lol:
You most likely shouldn't have said that last part yet that's an easy excuse I can just make myself (don't lead the witness!)
I had a sr on James coming in (as seen by my first vote) his day 1 was awful Ram just says "why you are voting the cop" and it irked me I looked at his iso saw nothing impressive so I kept my vote.
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Post Post #3545 (isolation #69) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:10 pm

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In post 3544, Not Chara wrote:Elena: your response for why Ram is scum looks more like you want me to know your reasons for your voting decisions this game. doyou have any thoughts on the situation re: Ram's claimed night actions that i brought up, in relation to your scumread?

can you tell me why RC was a townread for you?
Well yes I wanted to give a reason on why I voted Ram. I don't really have a thought on the nightaction mostly because I forgot that was a thing. My RC townread came from I've played with him in a few games and it's easy to tell when he's town I thought he was scum at first but a few reactions later it changed my outlook on him and nothing else really changed it from there.
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Post Post #3548 (isolation #70) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:25 pm

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I already explained that did I not ._.
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Post Post #3549 (isolation #71) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:26 pm

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To give more detail I felt like his comment to me was belittling not trying to figure out where I was voting his iso also leaves more wanted
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Post Post #3639 (isolation #72) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:29 am

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In post 3557, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 3556, Ramcius wrote:i was thinking, what chances that there are no redirector? Fitz is real vig, A50 admitted he fakeclaimed anyway, so maybe we should put last mafia (Fuzzy) out of his misery today?
That doesn't add up to why Fitz would hang comm out to dry like that though. Comm was a legit lynch candidate until Almost confirmed he's the vigi, and Fitz was scum reading comm too. That makes no sense whatsoever in the context of how it played out.

IMO, Fitz is probably the SK, almost is the real vigi, and fuzzy is still scum regardless. 3 NKs pretty much confirms both a vigi and an SK, so it also confirms Comm/Almost. The only other option is if comm was a Mafia rolecop, but it makes no sense for James to vs him then. It would take a hell of a lot of scum theater to pull off what they did if both were scum buddies, so I don't really see it.

Also, I don't like Elena's vote. It's trash reasoning, and when questioned, her only response was 'I already gave my reason' and 'his ISO looks funny.' It's complete garbage reasoning, and she's ignoring the JK claim on purpose. Only scum (or SK I guess) would want to lynch a JK claim when there are so many lurkers and completely useless players hiding out and prod dodging every couple of days. Elena is one of them actually. I can't name a single thing that Elena has done since replacing in, and voting a JK claim that ADMITTED to jailing Comm last night is ridiculously stupid. All Comm needs to do is confirm or deny getting a result, and it confirms that Ram is either really a JK or he's a Mafia roleblocker. Those are the only two options, and I can't think of any reason why a Mafia roleblocker would admit to blocking a cop for no reason at all.

So yeah, I'm calling BS on scum Elena.

VOTE: Elena

@Elena: Please explain
I don't really care about what someone claims you should always vote on if you find someone scummy not what role they have that just gives mafia more wiggle room. So what if we have lurkers they can be sorted out later plus lynching lurkers gives almost 0 info what so ever so your logic is invalid on that. "Why would he admit to blocking him" you just answered your own question. You calling me a lurker is laughable just because I don't post 24/7 and have other games aswell doesn't make me a lurker I've been solving the game quite well I got the obv scum on replacing in and I'm doing it again.
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Post Post #3640 (isolation #73) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:43 am

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VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner
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Post Post #3641 (isolation #74) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:44 am

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Vifam and Chara are town still
Fuzzy can be scum
Tywin is in the sort/learn town slot
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Post Post #3642 (isolation #75) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:52 am

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XnadrojX
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are the only people that can be lynched today at least 2 scum in this
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Post Post #3644 (isolation #76) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:00 am

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In post 3643, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3640, Elena Fisher wrote:VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner
to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful
Strange cause my reads have mostly been on point so far.
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Post Post #3645 (isolation #77) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:00 am

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Even if I did build the best case in mafiascum history on you people would let you live cause you're a JK and they can't survive without it!
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Post Post #3647 (isolation #78) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:13 am

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In post 3646, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3644, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 3643, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3640, Elena Fisher wrote:VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner
to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful
Strange cause my reads have mostly been on point so far.
hm, James was asking for rope since start of game, NC wasn't on your scum list, that you admitted after saw him flip red, so what reads we talking about on point? Calling people TR is easy, townies much more than scums, and some are much easier to spot, so i don't consider that a reads
Hm I still had James unlike some people here him asking for rope doesn't change that yes I didn't sr Nero but I was right on the town flips you say it's "easy" but easy or not I was still right if you don't call it reads that's a personal problem.
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Post Post #3649 (isolation #79) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:32 am

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In post 3648, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3647, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 3646, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3644, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 3643, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3640, Elena Fisher wrote:VOTE: SlySly
If I won't get support with Ram I'll try tomorrow and vote his partner
to get support, bring arguments, not some vague accusations, and your reads are awful
Strange cause my reads have mostly been on point so far.
hm, James was asking for rope since start of game, NC wasn't on your scum list, that you admitted after saw him flip red, so what reads we talking about on point? Calling people TR is easy, townies much more than scums, and some are much easier to spot, so i don't consider that a reads
Hm I still had James unlike some people here him asking for rope doesn't change that yes I didn't sr Nero but I was right on the town flips you say it's "easy" but easy or not I was still right if you don't call it reads that's a personal problem.
anyway, what you learned from James flip? And by telling your reads are bad i'm reffering to your SRs, since you scumreading me without good reason, and yet you have to prove your scumreads to be on target
I can see that from your pov so fair. I'd have to go back and look at James iso but I think the real part to look for is in Nero's Iso he clearly wasn't a lynch target so he felt safeish James could be a bit more troubling but what I learned is that I have a pool of sr's and I think if we lynch them we win if I get lynched aslong as my list is followed to some extent fine by me
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Post Post #3652 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:38 am

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In post 3650, SlySly wrote:
In post 3634, Ramcius wrote:if your only defense is sarcasm, then you in big trouble
Can you feel me shaking in fear?

Me neither.

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Elena, your ride has arrived.

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I'm willing to lynch anyone that has a SR on me.
OOO OOO CAN I GET THE FRONT SEAT
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Post Post #3657 (isolation #81) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:18 am

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In post 3656, Tywin Lannister wrote:I'm also ok with a Vifam lynch, but i want Elena to answer why she voted Ram, the claimed JK, over anyone else. Common sense says he's the wrong lynch today even if she conceived of some way to SR him using scum theater as the reason.
Already answered
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Post Post #3660 (isolation #82) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:23 am

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Didn't deflect just because you dislike my answer doesn't mean I didn't answer it try again.
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Post Post #3662 (isolation #83) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:28 pm

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In post 3661, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 3660, Elena Fisher wrote:Didn't deflect just because you dislike my answer doesn't mean I didn't answer it try again.
All you basically said was that lynching a lurker gets no info, but you still haven't really explained why you'd SR Ram when he claimed JK and the evidence supports the claim? Comm didn't say whether he got a result or not, but I think it's safe to say he didn't.

So for you to SR Ram, you have to specifically think he's a Mafia roleblocker, right? I don't think jailkeeper can be scum, but correct me if I'm wrong. So that's a pretty specific read on Ram, and you'd have to also believe he'd tell everyone he blocked comm for some specific reason. I can't think of any, but maybe you can?

I'm curious as to what your thought process is with it. I can understand how lynching a lurker gives less info, but I don't see what into lynching Ram would get. If he flips JK as claimed, then what info do we gain? If he flips scum, well that's nice, but I still don't see what extra info is available. He was defending James most of D1/2 and went after Comm D1, but I chalk it up to meta reasons. They know each other from Epic Mafia, so it makes sense for Ram to disbelieve James' claim while also not SRing him for it.

So what am I missing here? What exactly is your case on Ram that (at the time) made him a better lynch than the pool of players you listed a page ago?
I scumread him the most then others that's really all the justification I need him claiming JK does not play a factor into my read what so ever Mafia roleblocker makes sense hin coming in to save someone is towncred it's not that far fetched if you think on it he did something I found scummy his partner flipped red that makes him even more scummy in my eyes so I voted him simple
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Post Post #3732 (isolation #84) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:10 pm

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I don't see why scum Vifam goes into lazy idgaf mode here so please someone tell me why he's scum
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Post Post #3737 (isolation #85) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:26 am

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In post 3734, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3732, Elena Fisher wrote:I don't see why scum Vifam goes into lazy idgaf mode here so please someone tell me why he's scum
here? He was like this all game, D1 he even promised selfhammer, if get L-1
That makes me even more confident he's town.
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Post Post #3738 (isolation #86) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:26 am

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In post 3736, CommKnight wrote:For those not voting Vifam, why? Just because he pulls the same stunt he did D1? Nah, if we let everyone off the hook every time they pulled that, then we'd never catch mafia. If he is town pulling that shit, maybe he needs to become more invested in future games he joins.
This is shit reasoning.
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Post Post #3740 (isolation #87) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:15 am

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or I'm scum take your pick.
Although if Vifam does flip scum I agree with you :lol:

He's not though.
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Post Post #3743 (isolation #88) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:36 am

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In post 3741, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3740, Elena Fisher wrote:or I'm scum take your pick.
Although if Vifam does flip scum I agree with you :lol:

He's not though.
No, i don't believe you both scum, but if he flip green, i will look at you closer, it's scum 101 to defend ML town to earn towncred like this
Of course it is that's why you have to look at the defense to see if that's what you think it is because it's such a common play
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Post Post #3762 (isolation #89) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:11 am

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VOTE: fuzz
James called Sly scum all of day 1? Then this is prob better although if he never voted him that's sus
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Post Post #3768 (isolation #90) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:24 am

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Where did I say I read day 1 ever in my iso?
I said I read early day 1
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Post Post #3769 (isolation #91) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:25 am

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I'll vote Sly another time but Fuzz is better
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Post Post #3774 (isolation #92) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:30 am

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If you lynch me you're not lyching Vifam the next day
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Post Post #3776 (isolation #93) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:31 am

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I'm pretty sure scum is in fuzz/sly/fiz anyway
Pedit: he's obv af town
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Post Post #3777 (isolation #94) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:32 am

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Why do you think I tried to defuse the RC vs Vifam fight cause it was town vs town idk what you're not seeing
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Post Post #3780 (isolation #95) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:35 am

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Lynching me would be okay because maybe you could wake up
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Post Post #3785 (isolation #96) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:41 am

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In post 3782, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3776, Elena Fisher wrote:I'm pretty sure scum is in fuzz/
sly
/fiz anyway
And there she goes again!! Like, "Sly is scum but I won't lynch him. I'll only call him scum all game and the minute he gets voted by anuone other than me I'll switch to another target". This is awful.
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Post Post #3786 (isolation #97) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:42 am

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In post 3781, Ramcius wrote:
In post 3777, Elena Fisher wrote:Why do you think I tried to defuse the RC vs Vifam fight cause it was town vs town idk what you're not seeing
Hm, i'm not seeing push on Vifam from both flipped scums, but i see Nero pushing all 3 of your scum candidates, so why Nero do so? Considering he didn't pushed James, why he would push his less scummy buddies?
Good question I don't know how nero works but the simple answer is you just answered it yourself to get you into the mind set of "why would he do that"
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Post Post #3802 (isolation #98) » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:11 pm

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In post 3790, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3785, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 3782, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3776, Elena Fisher wrote:I'm pretty sure scum is in fuzz/
sly
/fiz anyway
And there she goes again!! Like, "Sly is scum but I won't lynch him. I'll only call him scum all game and the minute he gets voted by anuone other than me I'll switch to another target". This is awful.
Do I think Sly is scum? Maybe yes but I am more confident in fuzz being scum so I'm going to keep my vote there if you think that's scummy then so be it
Based on WHAT? "I think X is scummy" is NOT an argument. It's a hollow statement. Here.. I'll help you:

1- How much experience do you have with Fuzzy prior to this game?

2- What feels the same/different from his play in those games to this one that pinged you?

3- If not enough prior experience, then what exactly has he said or done here that pings you so hard?

4- Can you show a link between Fuzzy and either Nero/James??

This isn't SURVIVOUR FGS. You don't vote someone based on how you like/dislike them. The time to do that has long passed (D1). Now we try to base our cases on reasons from within the game.

Thank you for your cooperation.
First of all I am not voting someone based on my like/dislike for a person let us get that handled right now. I have a lynch pool of people I do not find towny and I find them scummy so I am lynching in them and am voting the person I find the most scummy in the group am I not giving a lot of reason with just saying they're scummy? Of course now I will answer the rest of this after dinner
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Post Post #3825 (isolation #99) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:41 am

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In post 3814, XnadrojX wrote:VOTE: Elena
Gut tells me so.
Also tywin is still town. Vifam is idk.
A brief skim makes me think I should lynch this slot.
Make sure this slot doesn't make this LYLO
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Post Post #3826 (isolation #100) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:42 am

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In post 3642, Elena Fisher wrote:XnadrojX
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SlySly
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are the only people that can be lynched today at least 2 scum in this
you were in my list Fuzz
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Post Post #3827 (isolation #101) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:44 am

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To be quite frank you Sly and xnadro have done nothing what so ever this game and should be lynched ASAP while we have the time (vigged if you have the shots,) Then the game can move forward. Fuzz feels like coasting scum and the fact I have no defenders and everyone is just jumping at the chance to lynch me should tell you enough, xnadro's vote on me is by far the worst

What am I at atm?
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Post Post #3831 (isolation #102) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:35 am

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In post 3829, SlySly wrote:
In post 3827, Elena Fisher wrote:To be quite frank you Sly and xnadro have done nothing what so ever this game
I admitted earlier in the game that I was not properly engaged in this game. I am now. My work and game load has lightened up. Am I going to go back and reread this game? No. Doesn't matter, I've read it all and know enough of what has happened, whether I can recall the details or not, to be a town asset for the rest of the game.
That's fine I'm guilty of the same thing I just wish you had more presence
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Post Post #3847 (isolation #103) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:14 am

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My sly sr keeps going downish but I can't give a good reason why I think scum is Fuzz/fliz/mudkip avi dude if I had to take a guess of a pool
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Post Post #3901 (isolation #104) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:11 am

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Soft claiming is mostly to do 1 of 2 things

1) incase you get a cc increase your evidence/proof
2) Give info to other players without others knowing like cop results doc saves etc
Why are we on this topic again?
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Post Post #3904 (isolation #105) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:29 am

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In post 3902, D3f3nd3r wrote:
Prodding Xnadrojx
Can we lynch this?
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Post Post #3911 (isolation #106) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:31 am

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VOTE: Xnadorj
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Post Post #3913 (isolation #107) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:36 am

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In post 3912, CommKnight wrote:VOTE: Xnadorj

Fuzz tomorrow if this flips green.
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Post Post #3919 (isolation #108) » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:02 pm

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In post 3918, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Not voting Xnab,,feels like a policy lynch scum is jumping on

Almost and Tywin calls for Sly to claim before l1 is still bad

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Oh I love me a challenge!
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Post Post #3958 (isolation #109) » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:21 am

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Thank fuck that guy is dead regardless of the flip I'm pissed that someone prod dodges THAT MUCH like either play or replace do not make the game harder on everyone else
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Post Post #3966 (isolation #110) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:08 pm

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Vifam is Town
VOTE: Fliz
This or Fuzz
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Post Post #3969 (isolation #111) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:31 pm

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Answered that already but look at his play he doesn't' care if there was onlyt 2 scum left he'd fight harder
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Post Post #3971 (isolation #112) » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:59 pm

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Comm should have a clear through rolecop hopefully
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Post Post #3993 (isolation #113) » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:25 am

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@MOD V/LA until the 17th I'm having major problems at home here so sorry
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Post Post #4014 (isolation #114) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:53 am

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I'm glad we lynched obv town on my V/LA who's next Chara?

VOTE: fitz
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Post Post #4019 (isolation #115) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:29 am

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No I know Chara was town I was being sarcastic cause you lynched my other top tr
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Post Post #4020 (isolation #116) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:30 am

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Why does Fuzzy defending RC make him town and not me for wanting to stop a town vs town fight between RC and Vifam >.> I'm salty
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Post Post #4021 (isolation #117) » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:30 am

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VOTE: Tywin
I get your logic.
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Post Post #4063 (isolation #118) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:59 am

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Maybe it's better to see if he dies tonight and lynch the next lynchable player (Me)
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Post Post #4067 (isolation #119) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:09 am

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[quote="In post 4066, TheFuzzylogic99"]Elena
I am not voting you at the moment,,,,or plan to
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Post Post #4076 (isolation #120) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:39 am

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It's impossible even with the time shift?
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Post Post #4096 (isolation #121) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:01 am

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Given new events I really wanna say scum is Fuzz or Tywin
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Post Post #4102 (isolation #122) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:47 am

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In post 4101, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 4096, Elena Fisher wrote:Given new events I really wanna say scum is Fuzz or Tywin
What new events? That Almost lied and admitted to making up an entire story to get me lynched?

You tried quicklynching me ASAP far before that came out, so 'new' events all of a sudden make you think I'm scum NOW? So you didn't believe it when you tried quicklynching me, but now that Almost admitted to lying, all of a sudden you do?
I believed him when he said he shot you it's why I voted you given your answers I'm confident you or Fuzz are scum even if Almost never made a case on you this would be my view point still
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Post Post #4164 (isolation #123) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:51 am

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Great game everyone I think Tywin played very well it just came down to some PoE
....Still salty I couldn't stop the Vifam lynch
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Post Post #4166 (isolation #124) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:57 am

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Fuck ups are good for town everyone so go ahead and be anti town in games it helps! :lol:
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Post Post #4175 (isolation #125) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:35 am

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Sorry for the mini tunnel for a sec Ram but I stopped! :(
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Post Post #4177 (isolation #126) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:02 am

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Is that a challenge for next time? :twisted:
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Post Post #4179 (isolation #127) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:09 am

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It'll be hard to laugh with rope around your neck.
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Post Post #4187 (isolation #128) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:45 am

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Thanks for the game/hosting
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Post Post #4188 (isolation #129) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:56 am

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Pere I never got your msg by the way may I ask why you picked me as your target?
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Post Post #4190 (isolation #130) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:20 am

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In post 4189, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wagon on me was fucking gross. you're lucky that Almost replaced in and pulled a hail mary because there's no way town would have won otherwise.
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