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The cause of Freedom is Noble.
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My eyes demand action.
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Yes, I meant what I said.
Do you think Vecna lied about having a geass, or lied about what it does?
At least we merely have OCCASIONAL words in caps and not ENTIRE posts. My eyes can probably deal with that if I use drops.
(No i'm not going to keep doing that. My fingers are educated and refuse to abuse the type system like that, especially whenthereareothermeans of emphasis.
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The previous assertion was that Vecna lied, not Kraska. The importance is not what kind of lie, but how other people interpreted it.In post 593, Painbringer wrote:Daveasz, why does it matter where Kraska lied?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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However since you brought it up, was Kraska's backstab comment a lie? If so what do you think the relevance is?
I think both comments were intended as jokes, but that's based mostly on the tone of the game so far.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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+1In post 607, DiamondSentinel wrote: It is literally impossible for me to enjoy shitposting.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Umm, was backstabbing mentioned by Kraska earlier than this point?
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Nope, later. That's very interesting. Not sure what it means yet, but it's a little freaky unless that is a common possibility.In post 377, kraska77 wrote:I can backstab if I choose toWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Any particular reason for this vote?
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Actually whether you think they're lying makes a big difference to me.
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In post 252, Randomnamechange wrote:
i think leon is town in general as well as mechanicallyIn post 250, DiamondSentinel wrote:Vecna and KainTepes, please either stop trolling or just leave the game.
It's not enjoyable for anyone.
Anyways, gamewise, I'm tempted to say that Leon is town, mechanically, but this is a bastard game, so I can't make any sort of mechanical analyses.
Umm, what?In post 256, Randomnamechange wrote:
im notIn post 253, Painbringer wrote:why are you all reading leon as town?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Currently, not much. Later when combined with other info, indications of whether you were informed or uninformed.In post 631, Painbringer wrote:
why is that then?In post 630, davesaz wrote:Actually whether you think they're lying makes a big difference to me.
Not enough substantial posts in game for reads.
if I believe them, what does that tell you?
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Painbringer caught the same inconsistency from Randommidget. I noticed both the inconsistency and their response while doing iso of various people.
Part of the reason for posting about it was to see if they would follow up.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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You missed a comma. I like the remaining sentence a lot better the way I punctuated it. It's true this way, where the other one was false.In post 648, Painbringer wrote:Why are you voting, obvtown dave?
I'm voting to make someone stop trolling. It seems to have worked. The vote isn't really needed, except as continuing pressure to not troll. I choose not to remove it since it is achieving the desired goal. Might as well make it useful instead of leaving it idle as unvoted.
My vote hasn't moved because I don't know yet where I want to move it to. Too many people have not had their 2nd posting day roll around yet. Too many people have had their 2nd day and not said anything of substance. I'll know better after more people say useful things.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 661, Painbringer wrote: I have made very few posts. Why are you selectively responding and not giving reads when I asked for them?
~Titus
I don't do early reads. This has never been a secret.In post 660, davesaz wrote:I'll know better after more people say useful things.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Umm, I haven't talked about rb and don't know if there is a wagon on the hydra he's part of.In post 671, Painbringer wrote:
There's plenty useful enough for you to chainsaw the rb wagon. Why are you pushing policy votes for trolling instead of what your gut tells you?In post 664, davesaz wrote:In post 661, Painbringer wrote: I have made very few posts. Why are you selectively responding and not giving reads when I asked for them?
~Titus
I don't do early reads. This has never been a secret.In post 660, davesaz wrote:I'll know better after more people say useful things.
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In post 646, Painbringer wrote:Shit posting is pretty worthless, but if you can shit post and provide thoughts that's great.
However complaining about shit posting while doing nothing is just another form of shit posting which is actually worse cause your being a hypocrite
Interesting story, I once tried to play scummy on purpose to see who would vote it and who wouldn't.In post 647, Vecna wrote:Bingo.
It also happens to be a -very- common scum practise.
Which is the type of practise im flushing out.
Currently we have 5 biters.
I think that Titus was one of the people who refused to believe did that as town.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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So if I read this right, a pink who had no interest in participating in this mechanic in the first place can sit on it. That's good.
The description of the mechanic could include moderator deception. I don't think it's likely but it is a possibility.
V/LA right now should pretty much go without saying, but I'll declare it till Monday.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Did Titus claim to have no knowledge of flavor but then reveal flavor which is strongly indicative of the event?
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I have detected several inconsistencies in the claimed information.
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That isn't the reason I'm voting them. The vote is real.In post 1240, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
No. They said the flavor of the event confirms they triggered it.In post 1238, davesaz wrote:Did Titus claim to have no knowledge of flavor but then reveal flavor which is strongly indicative of the event?
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Attn: "Nobles" hood.
Painbringer flavor claim is Milly Ashford.
Milly isnot a noblebut they let us think they are one by claiming membership in the hood.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The point is that you're claiming to be a noble.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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They claimed to be a noble. (my emphasis added)
This is a lie by flavor. Votes please.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Umm, theyIn post 1265, Painbringer wrote:
We're all confirmed nobles to each other in our hood.In post 1263, davesaz wrote:They claimed to be a noble. (my emphasis added)
This is a lie by flavor. Votes please.just claimed it again.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Milly
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Milly cares deeply about Lelouch, butrealizes the need to restore her family's status by marrying a noble.
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The page also lists her as aformernoble.
I take things literally. It's possible that Frozen does not which would make this merely a mistake and not a lie. But rest assured, when I'm town and I find someone saying things that look like lies, I call them on it. I could be wrong, but I'm not scum. I'm Euphemia, and it's really bizarre that there is a "noble" hood that doesn't have a (apparently main character?) noble in it.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Look at this iso
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=200
Titus tells a lie as town and I vote her as town. Ialwayscall people on things that I think are lies.
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OK fine, I'm probably wrong about the flavor thing, though the told you so to the rest of the thread will be very sweet if it ends up I was right. Well, bitter sweet because freedom will probably lose if I was right and let it go.
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TBH if PB not lying then they're my 2nd strongest town read. Though triggering the cupid day thing is both wtf and IMO bad to do this early when we know nothing. Having that flavor character and a web browser it should have been possible to look it up and guess what it does even if the mod said nothing. (harboring a little doubt that the mod really said nothing about what it would do btw, and will be happy to told you so if that comes true as well...)
Someone who claimed a noble said they didn't know what would happen if someone pledged them. Why aren't the other nobles roping that individual? Or are we not equal in that respect? I know what happens if someone pledges me -- I'm not stupid enough to reveal it openly of course...Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Aristophanes -- was kraska making up the whole back stabbing thing?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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To answer 1st question, I thought not knowing might be useful as a fakeclaim detector, but apparently not.In post 1417, Painbringer wrote:
No player in the hood knows what happens when loyalty happens.In post 1416, Leonshade wrote:keyXrb was the noble who doesn't know what happens, but why do you think that makes him scum?
In response to 2nd point, or at least they're not saying they know. I find it disconcerting that most/all hood references are coming from one source but I figure there would be a pileon if false info started showing up. And I guess that it's possible the mod has revealed less info than I'd expect even given the caveats at signup.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Given that fake generally means scum, and you think they're both fake, then how can you come to the conclusion they can't be scum together?In post 1457, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.In post 1455, DiamondSentinel wrote:But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.
Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
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I misread Gamma as Grandma a couple of times.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Pedit: this was in response to the merits of being a couple with scum
The issue comes up when you have scum nailed but can't lynch them without it being a suicidal move. It nullifies the positive effect of lynching scum in the same way as scum vengeful does.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The Not Chara/Alpaca slot can be voted...
In post 200, Frozen Angel wrote: KainTepes (3): Drone, DiamondSentinel, DarkInnocence
davesaz (2): Leonshade
PainBringer (1): KainTepes
AlpacaAlpaca (1): McMenno
Not Voting (13): BTD6_maker, malpascp, davesaz, Crystalline Dagger, Reasonably Rational, kraska77, ssbm_Kyouko, keyXrb, culted, PainBringer, Vecna, randomidget, KlingonceltWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I think you'd be better off with me.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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But you described it as fake, where if you had a TR there I'd expect you to say it was wrong or misguided.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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VOTE: Crystalline Dagger
Pretty much all gut.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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So you're keeping "score" but not making notes of which posts those scores result from?In post 1831, DiamondSentinel wrote:I'd have to ISO him to find the posts, but he has the most scum-points. He has 3 scum-points, and no null or town-points from here on. Additionally, they had an overall trend of not-helpfulness during those pages.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Oh, look at the alternative wagon popping up.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 1932, KainTepes wrote:drone MUST be scum,, only scum uses my posting style as EXCUSE for calling me shitposter,, i am not a shitposter,, i am KAIN TEPES,,
If you thought Drone was scum (implied in previous post) why would you want to sheep him?In post 1940, KainTepes wrote:
i will SHEEP This if you explain your THOUGHT PROCESS for the voting of the daggers,,In post 1939, Drone wrote:DS outing his vote reasoning this way doesn't make me wanna lynch him..
VOTE: Crystalline Dagger
Do you have an independent read on CD?
I like my vote better where it is right now. Care to explain why Drone should be voted for?In post 1971, KainTepes wrote:someone EXPLAIN TO KAIN TEPES why the drone should not be VOTED FOR,,Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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You're claiming to not know the flavor? Wikis are a thing...In post 1997, Painbringer wrote: Fire's our flavor man. I cannot even find where to watch the show.
I don't know what Davesaz was on, but he's acted pretty pants on head before.
Speaking of wikis & flavor, there is a cat in the show, and you meowed.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I doubt it was a traitor crumb given the post was suggesting a conversion to 3rd party.In post 2179, Aristophanes wrote:
He's saying that whatever role he is is normally meh, but really meh here. He's acknowledging that there may be alignment changes, but that a Masonizer or friendly neighbour should be immune to alignment changes. So if he is linked with, he will confirm you as town verbally even if not by flip, and we should all assume he is telling the truth.In post 2124, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Is it just me or did RR say he was going to lie about being conftown with someone and then say "that might not work because i might be third party scum when i flip".
Did i just not understand what he wrote or does this make no sense to anyone?
~Jin~
However he could just be a traitor asking to be targetted by scum in an indirect way, as he seems pretty certain he's gonna be the one who changes alignments if anyone.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The hammer / killer dies but doesn't flip? As in we then have a no info at all?
That's pretty odd, isn't it? Not inconceivable given bastard, but wow?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Who is this Malpascp person and what have they done?
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I came to respond to a prod. Iso me if you want to know who I am. Then kindly pull your head out of your ass.In post 2419, Vecna wrote:Notice how my lover indicated that he has some dirt on malpascp and that davesaz comes in here to scurry about and try to poke at what that might be.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I guess a good question would be, does anyone else have the cat as an ability?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'm so lost this game it's not even funny.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Marking this exchange as probably being AI.In post 2565, Leonshade wrote:
This post doesn't correspond to what I brought up, and it pings me hard to boot.In post 2557, Klingoncelt wrote:
I'm a total derp on Day 1, as such I'm usually lynched (or vig'ed Night 1) as low-hanging fruit. The experience leaves me feeling sorry for whoever ends up as the D1 lynch, and I'm reluctant to vote for someone that isn't a very strong read.In post 2537, Leonshade wrote:So if we're going to leash malpa's shot, who should he shoot?
I think KlingonCelt is scum. Don't like the way she waffled between the CD and mal wagon, trying to push the wagon towards mal before settling on CD due to the popularity of the wagon (see posts 2438, 2441 and 2442).
The above is based on the assumption that Klingon is CD's buddy, trying to sway the wagon but bussing when she saw the way the wind blowed. If CD flipped town, I might read it different, but if CD flips scum, I would want Klingon shot.
Thoughts?
Let's pretend I'm taking you at face value: You are reluctant to vote for someone that isn't a strong read, so why did you vote for CD if you think the case against mal is better?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'd think at least one, as the exchange has evasion and/or misrep involved. If it's both then likely not teamed, though slight chance of coaching if there were no daytalk involved.In post 2568, culted wrote:You think that's scum/scum, dave?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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It would help if one or both of them were responding to things.In post 2573, culted wrote:
Which one do you think looks worse?davesaz wrote:
I'd think at least one, as the exchange has evasion and/or misrep involved. If it's both then likely not teamed, though slight chance of coaching if there were no daytalk involved.In post 2568, culted wrote:You think that's scum/scum, dave?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Not really -- though it is a confirmed weird setup so anything's possible.In post 2579, McMenno wrote:
do you suspect multiballIn post 2570, davesaz wrote:
I'd think at least one, as the exchange has evasion and/or misrep involved. If it's both then likely not teamed, though slight chance of coaching if there were no daytalk involved.In post 2568, culted wrote:You think that's scum/scum, dave?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Klingoncelt made an excuse about not liking to vote onD1unless a read is strong.
Leon used that to cast shade on Klingon'sD2.
Either Klingon is being evasive by allowing Leon to expand the definition, or Leon is misrepping Klingon by that expansion. (Or they didn't understand / didn't care what the other was doing)
I'm trying to figure out what happened there and nobody is cooperating.
I don't especially like being ignored like that, but I've become accustomed to it.
I flat out skipped all the high school hijinks. (no offense to anyone who is just roleplaying, my comment is on the content and not the people) I'm 55 and that doesn't appeal to me. I'd be willing to bet that more than 1500 posts have been nauseating to me. But I soldier on because I don't replace out.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Bold is mine.
Why did you use bus as a term in this post?In post 2580, Alisae wrote:While doing that I also skimmed the mods ISO.
I'm okay with a CD lynch. I felt like early hetried to bus Vecna, and then as soon as the Vecna wagon lost steam he immediately jumped onto the randomidget when that was starting to get some steam.
With that said I don't like how quickly the Vecna wagon just dissapeared either.
Andhis TR on Vecnaseems wierd and awkard? Gonna go ISO Vecna now.
Whose TR on Vecna?
If you really ISO'd CD and then Vecna, doesn't this mean you hadn't looked at Vecna yet while thinking that CD was bussing in your previous post? I'm a little confused by the order of things here.In post 2581, Alisae wrote:And I don't like Vecna either. Seems like he likes to scream "LYNCH THIS NERD" but not really say why or shows any attempt to convince people on why.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Hmm, either Leonshade is no longer double voter, or someone on that wagon is voteless.
I'd be willing to hammer.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Someone said hammer time?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Game needs a scum filp to give us some clues.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I don't remember anyone saying no. If you had a power like that why wouldn't you use it anyway? And if you didn't have that power then why talk about it?In post 2960, Vecna wrote: Shouldve let me dispell that geass. It wouldve been a ressurection.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I've confirmed it more than once previously -- yes I'm a noble.In post 3033, Vecna wrote:I need Davesaz to get his ass in here to confirm whether he's a noble or notWanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord