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Track result?In post 1817, Drunken Piper wrote:also n2 Cakez did not target anyone.
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50 seems a reaction to 49 which seems a reaction to 47.
Find it hard to believe PineTonic calls out scumbuddy-Titus for her voting infinifty, and telling her to back off (57 , 60).
If PineTonic whiteknights a town player, it most likely is from another town player, not from a scum partner.
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???In post 1935, Drunken Piper wrote:
(DP sees the question...and just stares at Pere...silent)In post 1933, PeregrineV wrote:
Track result?In post 1817, Drunken Piper wrote:also n2 Cakez did not target anyone.
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Also don't think scumbuddy shoots down partner for trying to gain advantage in the game. I think they would instead also vote themselves to back the idea up, that way if either gets picked, scum benefit.In post 331, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:About the Rogue Leader thing, I think it's a disservice to vote yourself as captain. The way it's set up, it's like we can vote to lynch someone and that's who we think is scummy, as for voting for rogue leader, it's like voting for who your strongest town read is.
Basically, if you're town, then people will see that and you'll be elected and it seriously discredits a whole other dimension to the game that can be analyzed if you vote yourself.
/Gin
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Then what was the night1 result?In post 1940, Aj The Epic wrote:He tracked Cakez, who didn't move.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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OK. Haven't gotten to day2 yet.In post 1944, Aj The Epic wrote:it's a ROGUE crew ability, I think they're 1 shot by night.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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I'm no where near having read the whole game, but I started with a Pine ISO and jumped into points there.
@Mastin-My biggest issue with your claim is the point in time you came up with your Pine scumread (post 512).
You then "read", and confirm it with your vote 520.
this is followed by "Molla might be scum" (521). Based on progression, this read comes from:
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Meanwhile, Pine tries to open dialogue with you in 517, never before talking to you or mentioning your name.
Then this stuff:
Which looks like a bunch of /Gin postingSpoiler:
But, by 584, you have sloidifdied that Pine-a-tronics is scum.
And this:In post 584, mastina wrote:
Yes I am! You, however, are your usual scumfuck self!In post 562, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:At least she's Town this game.
Meanwhile, neither head of the hydra tries really hard to break you from your read, nor do they try to engage you that I can see. If your sure Pine is scum based on his 5 posts, yet the Gin side does nothign to affect your read?In post 657, mastina wrote:Pine is also scum. I prefer to vote Pine, in spite of SirCakez being scum, because lynching scum is lynching scum. The who or the why isn't as important as the act itself. Obviously I'll vote SirCakez if I can't lynch Pine. That goes without saying. But Pine is the scum I would prefer to lynch, because my scumread there is not only stronger, it is also on a firmer basis (I know Pine better), with better reasons, and also on someone who WILL slip away if you let him go.
Sounds kind of fake.
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You're a townread because of Pine's treatment of you, not because your reads are right.In post 2108, Infinity 324 wrote:Scum is in {AJ, aero, pere, TWIE, molla}
Mastin convinced me that molla is possible but not that's it's likely.
Have to ISO cakez but I doubt he's in there.
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Sure. Your AJ read and your Aero read first.In post 2114, Infinity 324 wrote:
No. If you'd like to discuss any read in particular I'd be happy to. But I'm not gonna say "gosh darn you're right, my reads are shit" just because you say so.In post 2111, PeregrineV wrote:
You're a townread because of Pine's treatment of you, not because your reads are right.In post 2108, Infinity 324 wrote:Scum is in {AJ, aero, pere, TWIE, molla}
Mastin convinced me that molla is possible but not that's it's likely.
Have to ISO cakez but I doubt he's in there.
Try better, please.
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As an objective veiwpoint, he has been posting his reads and how he reached them.In post 2135, Infinity 324 wrote:With aj, I don't like how he talked about being a better scumhunter on later days but hasn't really done any of that, instead he's largely defended himself and posted fluff today. I also didn't like his reaction to the heartless vote.
As for fluff, you sound like Pine:
Also, Pine is trying to set him up to be the next lynch:In post 162, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Right now I do have a couple questions as I'm confused on the purposes of some people's actions.
First one is about the RVS stage and SirCakez, I was quite puzzled when Infinity said he didn't like the wagon forming on Cakez and then Cakez voted Infinity soon after. Question is mainly for Sir because I don't see what would make him vote Infinity after saying that.
The next one is what AJ thought was overblown when he said it in post 48, the follow up question is after Infinity asked him what AJ's thoughts about it was, is why he never continued his questioning of Infinity?
Also if I'm correct in the terminology, his posts are fluffy?
I know it's the RVS stage and it's hard to pick stuff out, I just don't know why an actual opinion hasn't been formulated from that slot in regards to anything useful.
His reaction to the Heartless vote seems normal, since he's townreading the slot (509, 939).In post 734, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Alban, whats your opinion on the cakez wagon and do you think AJ is the better lynch or no?
He was replaced, so there is that.In post 2135, Infinity 324 wrote:With aero, it's partly that he caught up and then disappeared, partly zefiend's catchup which I find very scummy, and partly trusting mastin.
I totally think Mastina is scum.
Aero's Pine interactions don't look like scum with scum. Aero should be neutral or hostile, not questioning or friendly. (1075-1076-1118-1119)I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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412, Pine responds to request (from Drunken to Cakez) for case with "ISO infinity", when Pine has pretty much stated "no read"- this is treating infinity like he is scummyIn post 2143, ɀefiend wrote:
Sell me on this, please.In post 2111, PeregrineV wrote:
You're a townread because of Pine's treatment of you, not because your reads are right.In post 2108, Infinity 324 wrote:Scum is in {AJ, aero, pere, TWIE, molla}
Mastin convinced me that molla is possible but not that's it's likely.
Have to ISO cakez but I doubt he's in there.
I wasn't seeing it while reading.
550- Asking infinity to get info for him- treating infinity like town
1210, 1218- Pine still treating Infinity like he is town
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Pine & Mastin interaction was zero. And most of the "Pine" was the other hydra head.In post 2157, ɀefiend wrote:
The only problem I have with your logic is when you say Pine "will eventually go down." I don't know if there's credence to that statement before the guilty result comes out.In post 2118, Nero Cain wrote:
I think Mastina's timeline jazz is just fucking strongly worded bullshit but if you actually read it then it makes no sense. For all intents and purposes we'll assume Mastina is scum in this post. Like Pine had a role that publicly outs his action. Both him and Mastina would know this. Her main argument here is that scum wouldn't know who was getting into the crew, however, this totally ignores that HeartlessIn post 2084, ɀefiend wrote:I feel that mastina's defense against his concerns (re: the timeline of game events, and the motivations behind Pine and mastina's actions) was legitimate.DIDstate who she wanted in the crew. Why does she gloss over that? Also, from what I understand, Pine joined late so its possible that scum used their action once it was confirmed there was no scum in the crew.
So explain to me why I should just accept that Mastina is town and their history let her scum read Pine. When A.) it makes sense to bus a player that will eventually go down. B.) She was strong arming said lynch with little to no reason. Why couldn't she have just said "oh this post and this post and this post gives me bad vibes." As long winded as she is she could have done so and I don't think she ever did wich I think is sketchy as fuck.
As to your second point, I will admit that my initial read of the game placed mastina as Town because I didn't think her tone was being faked; that it would come from a bus. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. But if you and other vets in the game are saying this is within scum!mastina's range, I will also give you the benefit of the doubt. I absolutely hate being tricked by tone and my gut feeling is that mastina's was Town who just had a really good tell on Pine. If enough people tell me that my gut is being stupid, I'll stop relying on it.
Mastina did not "sort" PineTornics, she already knew he was scum.
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Why bother when he could just ignore his buddy. Nobody gives credit for shade.In post 2160, Infinity 324 wrote:Gin mentioned this once without a push and that's it, there's no reason why that couldn't be shade on a buddy.
That made me look at who was chasing AJ at the time, because a little bit of shading could help the cause of a scumbuddy.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Why is Cake a townread?In post 2160, Infinity 324 wrote:Given that I think cakez is most likely town atm, this is not very convincing. I'm not sure about the context, but I think it's definitely plausible that scum would suggest their buddy as a possible wagon.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Mastin is scum.In post 2160, Infinity 324 wrote:Mastin is town imo, also I could definitely see those interactions being distancing.
For fun, ISO Pine and yourself. See how he treats you.
Then ISO Aero and Pine. See how he treats Aero.
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He thinks Mastin is town too.In post 2161, Infinity 324 wrote:
This is so scumIn post 2157, ɀefiend wrote:As to your second point, I will admit that my initial read of the game placed mastina as Town because I didn't think her tone was being faked; that it would come from a bus. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. But if you and other vets in the game are saying this is within scum!mastina's range, I will also give you the benefit of the doubt. I absolutely hate being tricked by tone and my gut feeling is that mastina's was Town who just had a really good tell on Pine. If enough people tell me that my gut is being stupid, I'll stop relying on it.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Why would Pine avoid her when he could fight her to push a mislynch on her?In post 2179, Infinity 324 wrote:
Mastin was lazy/busy, pine was avoiding her. I think that explains itIn post 2177, PeregrineV wrote:Pine & Mastin interaction was zero. And most of the "Pine" was the other hydra head.
Mastina did not "sort" PineTornics, she already knew he was scum.
And he didn't fight it, no matter how often she repeated it over and over again, because no way did they want a 1v1 with each other.
Lazy/Busy mastin with 4th most posts in the game?
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I think it annoyed the shit out of Pine, but Gin didn't care, he just knew not to fuck with the plan.In post 2181, Nero Cain wrote:
Why is that unbelievable?In post 2176, Infinity 324 wrote:You're saying you think Pine and mastina would have planned the whole thing out from the time she was "scum-reading" him?
It's a hard pill for me to swallow.
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Pine ignored Mastin.In post 2188, Infinity 324 wrote:Because it's easiest to find scummy things from people you know are scum, and that makes it look like you're scumhunting. Also it might stand out if you just ignore someone.
Scum can't scumhunt there own team too hard, because then they either have to full on bus, or back off and flip thier read on them. That kind of move starts to look obvious.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 2188, Infinity 324 wrote:Because his wagon grew quickly, died slowly, and was not CW'ed for forever and a day. Plus his thoughts were all over the place and seemed to be organic. (need to iso for specifics and verification on that second part)
would like to see specific posts.
This wagon?
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In post 758, SirCakez wrote:
This is pretty cruddy, for obvious reasonsIn post 749, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm amazed that everyone hasn't auto-sheeped Mastina.
VOTE: Pine-A-Tonics
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Mastin has the same read on Cake- as Pine. Said it in practically every post I read. Had no interaction with him. Cake was also OK with it.In post 2209, Aj The Epic wrote:Treating Mastin the same way as pine or infinity, peregrine?
Spoiler: Whay Cake is scum- by Mastina (day1 only, expires after that)
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OK. When you find the posts that explain why Cake is town, we can disucss the wagon makeup. I have lots of townreads on it.In post 2214, Infinity 324 wrote:
Yes, that oneIn post 2206, PeregrineV wrote:This wagon?
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Sure. I think she's town at this point.In post 2218, Nero Cain wrote:PV, talk to me about your Titus read.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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This mostly.In post 1937, PeregrineV wrote:50 seems a reaction to 49 which seems a reaction to 47.
Find it hard to believe PineTonic calls out scumbuddy-Titus for her voting infinifty, and telling her to back off (57 , 60).
If PineTonic whiteknights a town player, it most likely is from another town player, not from a scum partner.
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We have no way of knowing if you were actually vanilliaized, correct?In post 2240, BBmolla wrote:I actually tried to use an action but was reminded I was vanillaized
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Welcome toReck's Restrospecitve Rehash.In post 2286, mastina wrote:
To understand what happened, you need to know the events which transpired: I started reading from about page 18 (that was the spot I noticed that there was a slot up for replacement), until I was caught up to the latest post. (The spot I actually began posting.)In post 2095, PeregrineV wrote:My biggest issue with your claim is the point in time you came up with your Pine scumread (post 512).
This got me some initial reads, like Drunken Piper and Heartless as town and I believe Pine/SirCakez both as scum. I lacked a lot of game context though.
Then, I went back to the beginning of the game, both for the value of the RVS and to fix that issue.
And started reading chronologically.
And there, you can track which page I was on with my thoughts by the quotes before, after, and during statements. For instance, Molla became a scumread on some page--I didn't quote it, but he did a series of postings around one page in particular which made me think, "This looks like Molla as scum". You conveniently put quotes here, and from memory I believe it came in that 236 - 254 range.
No fucking shit?Meanwhile, Pine tries to open dialogue with you in 517, never before talking to you or mentioning your name.
I wasn't in the game, PeregrineV.
I'm a replacement.
It's a little fucking hard to talk about a player who's not in the game yet, now, isn't it?
Pine started talking to me the moment I actually entered the game. My SLOT is mentioned in their iso, though. Admittedly, only once, in 280, but it's there.
What the fuck are you reading?Meanwhile, neither head of the hydra tries really hard to break you from your read, nor do they try to engage you that I can see.
Pine was constantly. CONSTANTLY. Saying, "Oh, lol, mastina's wrong again". Gin engaged me multiple times and said, "mastina is wrong". You want to get into this quote war, you WILL FUCKING LOSE because yes while I may not have been QUOTING many of Pine's posts, I sure as fuck wasn't blind to them and was reading each and every one of them remembering them QUITE well so I knowdamngood and well you're spewing bullshit here.
Why would it?If your sure Pine is scum based on his 5 posts, yet the Gin side does nothign to affect your read?
Gin's posts were null-at-best to me. Some of what Gin said was scummy, some of it was null, none of it was really town.
Whereas Pine. You know. The head I have the game history with. Was scumposting at every step of the way and I KNEW it was his scumposting. I had the game experience to call it what it was.
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ChannelDeliBird busses Nexus in post 168. CDB rides that to win the game.
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I read a few of your posts, and felt it was your scum game. It was.
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Right now, I think this is your scum game, based both on your posting, and general scumplay in the past that is highly similar.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Let's see it.In post 2288, mastina wrote:
Yes, he is, and I'd be happy to bus him if you'd vote with me there! Push come to shove, if nothing else.In post 2106, PeregrineV wrote:SirCake into the scumpile also.
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I think BBMolla is probably town.In post 1490, BBmolla wrote:I was vanillaized.
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In post 1479, Firebringer wrote:
Molla claim comes 11 posts into day2. I don't see Molla saying this for town credit unless Pine already knew he'd been copped.In post 1490, BBmolla wrote:I was vanillaized.
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In post 2409, Infinity 324 wrote:
This is a good point actually. What do you think mastin?In post 2404, Titus wrote:Either scum had to risk a broken situation occurring by holding one of their vanillaize shots, or whenever Pine flipped we'd get 3 vanillaized claims for two shots.
Another issue I have with the molla!scum narrative is why pine would risk dying before using all his shots given the day1 wagon thing and him joining the rogue crew.
People need to engage the people they disagree with more.
See 2428. And i thought he was lynched from a guilty, not because he joined the Rogue group.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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You were suspicious enough of Sir Cake to do your thing to him, and your wondering why AJ was suspicious enough to jailkeep him? His iso is full of arguing his Cake scumread.In post 2556, Drunken Piper wrote:
I probably dont need to read anymore,In post 2554, Drunken Piper wrote:In post 2399, Aj The Epic wrote: Also I'm full JK and locked Cakez two nights in a row. This was said in the claim.
VOTE AJ
seeing I didnt get a "no result" on cakez, you whore.
I will continue reading, to see what this is to see.
but unless i was redirected, the next scum has been caught, who wants to thank me?
This is some strange ass logic- do you think AJ is bussing Cake?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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That's rolestopper.In post 2574, Drunken Piper wrote:it is my understanding the a JK, makes the "target" untargetable.
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If you know Drunken Piper's claim is consistent with AJ's claim, why does that deserve a vote on AJ?In post 2577, Titus wrote:If cakez was on jail, he could not do an action.
DP would have gotten that result, not Cakez did whatever.
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You were not blocked, Cake was blocked.In post 2578, Drunken Piper wrote:(DP reads this following..."A Jailkeeper thatsimultaneously blocks and protects their targetis considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher)but is blockedshould receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.")
I'm not sure if people are really this unsure of roles and how they work, or are intentionally misrepresenting them on purpose....
I'm feeling like it's the latter.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Yes. Bussing you entire team will make me listen to you. If you happen to be town, then you are playing to your wincon in lynching scum.In post 2630, mastina wrote:I'm more willing to do this than zefiend, but it has much the same problem.
Would SirCakez flipping scum actually get you listening to me?
In post 2630, mastina wrote:Also, I don't feel the need to establish myself as town by lynching yet another scum. That won't stop idiots from scumreading me, and it won't give people whoaren'tscumreading me any more proof than what they already have. In short, it won't change how people view me at all, because they'll make excuses or because they already knew and didn't need proof.
So that is a no on lynching SirCake your scumread for 100+ Mastina posts?In post 2630, mastina wrote:What I DO need to do is to lynch the scum who aren't getting lynched without me pushing there. zefiend is scum, who can be lynched today or any day. SirCakez is scum, who I feel can be lynched any day but there may be resistance, which is why he's a slightly better lynch than zefiend. But BBMolla? Molla, if left alive, won't be caught. He will get away with it. And that's why I'm not moving my vote unless I have no choice but to move my vote. Today we will lynch scum. I guarantee you that much. It's just a matter of which scum we lynch.
I am really shocked.
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Yes.In post 2679, Infinity 324 wrote:...this is the guy that got a guilty on pine
I think they are all out there.In post 2680, Infinity 324 wrote:Where are you at with reads at this point pere?
Mastina & Cake are scumreads, TWIE a null (unread), most others leaning on the townside of null.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Sorry thought this was in night.
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No, if I did, I wouldn't be voting you Rogue Leader.In post 2685, Drunken Piper wrote:
so are you saying I scum?In post 2678, PeregrineV wrote:
You were not blocked, Cake was blocked.In post 2578, Drunken Piper wrote:(DP reads this following..."A Jailkeeper thatsimultaneously blocks and protects their targetis considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher)but is blockedshould receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.")
I'm not sureif peopleare really this unsure of roles and how they work, or are intentionally misrepresenting them on purpose....
I'm feeling like it's the latter.
that leaves me sad and numb.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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I don't know if it was intentional. By the end of the posting chain, I don't think so.In post 2683, Infinity 324 wrote:I thought you said you thought piper was being intentionally obtuse wrt setup, so how do you townread him? What do you think of him unvoting aj if that's the case?
I think he should unvote AJ, I find AJ to be town.
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Talk about your null and why the people on it are null.In post 2753, Drunken Piper wrote:huh, putting the below together and it comes to mind,
I dont have a lot in my town column, am I unkind?
Someone tell me why I am wrong,
I even wont make you do it in a song.
TOWN-
Heartless
BBmolla
NULL-Nero Cain, TheWayItEnds, SirCakez, Infinity 324
ɀefiend, mastina
Aj the Epic, PeregrineV
Titus
SCUM-
Mod: you have BBmolla listed twice in the alive "spoiler" on page 1.
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In post 2781, Drunken Piper wrote:
so as scum, I chose to throw a buddy who had AT LEAST one more,In post 2778, Infinity 324 wrote:
Getting paranoid that he could be scum and pine joining the crew n1 basically guarantees no scum out of that group. Or at least it's very likely. Piper is still probably town but better to be safe.
neutralizing shot day 2, out the door?
you were fine, when you thought you were higher.
in my list of reads, what else has transpired?
(....DP sniffs the air...."yep" he thinks to himself, "bullshit is here")@infinity- that was some pretty bad backtracking....I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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And how is Mastina so high up the lisT?In post 2783, Drunken Piper wrote:
EDIT:In post 2782, Drunken Piper wrote: TOWN-
Heartless
BBmolla
NULL-Nero Cain, TheWayItEnds, SirCakez,
Infinity 324
ɀefiend, mastina
Aj the Epic, PeregrineV
Titus
SCUM-
TOWN-
Heartless
BBmolla
Nero Cain
NULL- TheWayItEnds, SirCakez,
Infinity 324, mastina
ɀefiend, PeregrineV
Aj the Epic,
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Well, you made it sound like Drunken bussed Pine.In post 2803, Infinity 324 wrote:Reads list pre-thinkover
Piper
Nero
Heartless
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Post-thinkover
Nero
Heartless
Piper
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What is there not to get
Now you are saying that you thought over the relative towniness of each player, so much that Nero would now make a better Rogue Leader because he is now more towny than Piper?I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Probably not, since each VT also seems to have a power.In post 2853, Drunken Piper wrote:
this..this is the problem I have withIn post 2816, mastina wrote:
If you think that:In post 2654, Drunken Piper wrote:I am a fucking jack of all trades.
-Town 2x vigilante
-Whatever the rogue crew has (including at least one kill ability as per Klingoncelt's death and their word)
-Jailkeeper
-JOAT (tracker, the Pine guilty power, some third power which fitting the other two would presumably be investigative)
-JOAT (redirector, deflector, rolestop)
...Plus anything else we have unclaimed (in addition to all the VT abilities, which aren't exactly weak!)...
...Is all town?
the amount of claimed town power, seems like a myth.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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In post 2801, Firebringer wrote:VC
Why do you toy with my emotions like this!!In post 2872, Firebringer wrote:VcI will haveLimited Accesson weekends.