Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[RadiantCowbells]

I AM TOWN AND ANY WHO ATTEMPT TO WAGON ME WILL FACE MY UNFETTERED WRATH.

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I AM EXTENDING MY UNFETTERED WRATH TO INCLUDE THOSE WHO ATTEMPT TO DAYKILL ME.

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Dude it's a large and I don't want to get killed N1 I wasn't planning on producing a metric ton of content.

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Mmm I don't think that this town would actually be dumb enough to try to lynch me day 1.

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Uhh.

Because I am going to get nightkilled anyway and if I'm scum you can deal with me later.

Seriously?

Seriously.

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Yawn. VOTE: Vifam this needs dead.

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I wasn't here a week ago.

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Also these claims were fucking cancer. don't ever do that again.

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RC hasn't done squat what do you like about him?

This is a well-known RC towntell.

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VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

That's some bullshit. Why is Firebringer scum and why are we partnered?

[RadiantCowbells]

That slot is scum.

No voting LoX. We're voting in the two of us today.

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VOTE: ssbm_kyouko

Let's go you silly fuck.

And no one is to pull any bullshit tomorrow about how scum!SSBM wouldn't have done this. scum!SSBM would do exactly this because even though Pepcho has flaked sitewide there's apparently still enough morons in this game who think that it's scum indicative that he thinks people will make the argument 'BUT WHY WOULD SCUM!X PICK A FIGHT WITH RC WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS RC DOESN'T GO DOWN EASILY'!

Answer: I don't fucking know but people keep doing it and a cursory analysis of my play will find that scum constantly get rowdy and try to pick fights with me and I suspect it's because they want to establish some sort of dominance like 'OH HEY I MANAGED TO GET RC LYNCHED AND GET AWAY WITH IT /chiponsohoulder.' If I get lynched this clown follows, period.

[RadiantCowbells]

I know scum posturing when I see it and his 'oh Firebringer go bus your buddy' shit is absolute scum posturing. Lynch it with fire.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not trying to change scum's reads, I'm trying to lynch a cheeky scumfuck.

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Well there's gotta be some explanation for why you're trying to force a fight with me. Maybe you're just not a very good scum player?

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Man I don't care what you have to say. I don't expect to survive today but I certainly expect to see you die tomorrow and I am fine with that.

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VOTE: Radiant Cowballs

This is a trashcan vote and definitely ought to die too.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is the kind of game that I replace into and it doesn't even take a real life day and I know that town isn't going to win and that they frankly don't deserve to.

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VOTE: RC

Powerlynch that sad sack of shit SSBM. TTTTT is a great follow up vote. But let's be blunt you're all playing shit so have fun losing.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not you certainly.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have many reads in this game but I only care about the ones on people voting me. Town can go fuck themselves, they don't deserve my reads if I'm dealing with this shit on day 1.

[RadiantCowbells]

Obviously I feel the same about you or we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?

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Obviously I feel the same about you or we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?

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Obviously I feel the same about you or we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?

[RadiantCowbells]

Obviously I feel the same about you or we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?

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So since I am the one town who isn't confirmed as being a total idiot because I wasn't either allowing or pushing the lynch on myself, I'm telling you to lynch SSBM and you're going to do it.

Have fun tomorrow guys, good lock, hopefully certain people will learn to be better at the game but I'm not counting on it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Hey Frebringer, if you get back before I am lynched, I challenge you to a game of hangman.


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Nah. If I were scum my pride would prevent me from just accepting this lynch. As town I really don't give a shit because town brought this on themselves by being bad.

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VOTE: ramcius

you take that back you have no idea how offended i am by being called dumb by you

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[RadiantCowbells]

You got it.

you go

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You know usually when people call me dumb town they end up getting endgamed by Scum!RC.

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On principle I don't want to be voting you.

VOTE: Ssbm

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I am 100% sure that I have no chance of reading Alisae and I don't have a strong read on Grey. I want no part of that wagon.

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I'll leave my vote down where I want it to be.d

And trust me if LOX is scum then they can get me hammered today.

As you wish, but at this point is either you or they

Then let's make it me and we'll have some good come out of it when SSBM's sorry ass gets powerlynched.

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Vigilante

I was pretty sure but I didn't want to go ahead and lose mah PERFECT WINZ

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I mean I did Frozen so *shrug*

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The choice of words for that statement may have been wrong.

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VOTE: Vifam

Someone said they liked this vote. let's do it.

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@RC-

replacing in and being more useless than the guy that siteflaked

WILL

get you lynched.

I am town. You being a shitter is

your

problem, not

my

problem so stop acting like it's my problem and get over yourself.

[RadiantCowbells]

I hate this attitude that you wanting to lynch me for bullshit reasons is my problem. I'm not seeing anyone else produce mountains of game solving content and I don't want to do much this late on D1 for reasons I've explained. If you want to lynch someone who hasn't done something grossly egregious, which I haven't, then take responsibility for your own play.

[RadiantCowbells]

FIrebringer join me on this glorious Vifam lynch.

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Maybe VIfam is just a raging scumlord.

Look Ramcius I don't like the wagon on you whatsoever and I think you're town. Let's be on the same wagon together.

If Vifam is jester I am fine blowing a lynch on them to get them out of the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

GIF DA JESTER HISS WINN

[RadiantCowbells]

I counterclaim informed townie I am informed that Vifam is a vanilla townie.

Luckily I'm informed scum not informed town so I will lynch him anyways but still.

[RadiantCowbells]

It's an interesting mafia experience being able to selfvote and play hangman and still have the rhetorical skills necessary to not get lynched for doing so.

This game has given me insights as to why I am nightkilled so much and why people get so broken up and frustrated and paranoid about the prospect of me being scum in games.

[RadiantCowbells]

I would lynch you because you are ordinarily literally impossible to convince that I am town.

[RadiantCowbells]

I still remember that skype mafia game where I was like going so hard into AtE territory that I don't go into as scum anymore and you even in the end said you thought I was scum but you lynched FA because you didn't want to lynch me.

[RadiantCowbells]

I WAS TOWN IN THAT GAME THOUGH OMG I WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT AS SCUM.

My rule is that if Frozen Angel is not in a game I clip my AtE wings and if that requires me to lose a game so be it. If she's in the game, no holds barred I will burn the whole game down before I let myself get lynched.

I've only twice been lynched in games with her and that's because she was dead and I didn't feel like AtEing before.

[RadiantCowbells]

We did a lot. I was rarely alive until day 2 though. I remember one night we played 30+ games and I never once lived to day 2.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yes I do I think it's really unreasonable that I can't play out a game without creating a secret alt under which to do so.

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Not super convinced that you're town but you're not even close to the top of my to-do list.

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I mean it beats F2F mafia at montreal meet where I didn't want to make the game too serious and hard AtE so I just got chain lynched.

I wonder if the people who dislike how emotional and explosive I am would prefer if I just didn't do any of that and got lynched because my reads never come across as sincere.

[RadiantCowbells]

Wow am #offended.

[RadiantCowbells]

Pfft. I have many other skills.

[RadiantCowbells]

Vote the glorious Vifam wagon.

[RadiantCowbells]

Scum sure won't join wagons on their buddies D1.

??????
what makes you say this?

Cuz it's D1? Who busses on D1? Okay, maybe I should say 'scum won't lynch their buddies on D1.' I'm sure somebody has, but idk why scum would ever do that. Scum bussing on D1 seems like a really bad decision in almost every situation. There's not much TCred to be gained on a D1 rando wagon.

Yeah definitely I would never do this.

[RadiantCowbells]

I like Zifam wagon more atm.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well I'm scum or so your vote says so it's clearly just me pushing a wagon that's not me or one of my scumbuddies for the maximum swag points as I prepare to live through this game and endgame all you town fucks.

[RadiantCowbells]

When Vifam flips scum can we powerlynch Fitz?

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I will vote LoX if the alternative is a NL but we finally have a wagon that I like so I'd rather stick with this.

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Also, if you think LoX is scum, their approach to the Vifam wagon means you should think that there's a fairly strong chance for them to be partners.

Guy who doesn't like to bus hops on a wagon because their claimed top townread asked them to then immediately finds somewhere else to vote to try to push a wagon near the end of a day.

Like I think that there's a town explanation regardless of flips but if you think Grey hydra is scum then Vifam should be a very appealing wagon to you.

[RadiantCowbells]

TTTTT have you considered that the towniest thing a man could possibly do is selfvote and play hangman?

Imo if a man selfvotes and plays hangman that person should be permanently written off the lynchpool and considered confirmed town and I'm not sure why anyone disagrees here.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have a question. Do you think that Scum!RC in this situation would have any difficulty finding someone besides myself to vote for and pushing a case on them?
'cause there's a point where you have to realize that anything, everything that I do is deliberate. Was the hangman a calculated way to get pressure off? yes. it worked.
But then again I could have done literally anything there and there are so many better ways to get pressure off as scum because doing what I did relinquishes control over the game.
I like controlling the game as scum because I direct the lynches and lead the flow of the game. Playing hangman and trolling does not garner you control of the game.
No, if I were scum I would have replaced in with a strong case on someone that I would have thought up before seeing role PM because I specifically wanted to play town.
Go in fast and hard with a really powerful case on literally anyone in the game, *probably* someone that has never been wagoned up to that point, get them lynched, continue game.
Is that self meta and thus unreliable? Yes, and I even lie about self meta constantly as both alignments. But I'm still town and at some point town needs to trust me so I'll do what I can to enable that.
If you're saying you don't trust the hangman because I'm RC: what exactly IS it that you would trust me to be town for doing, mister?

[RadiantCowbells]

Not the right response from someone who claims to think that I am obvious scum and is currently voting me.

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I'm at L-5 now because SSBM unvoted but I agree that we should get together and be rid of you.

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Selfvote then qtpi.

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lol go away fitz you're either scum or utterly doubleplusungood.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm planning to lynch actual scum so we're all going to vote Vifam now please thanks.

[RadiantCowbells]

If there's a vig Nero is a good shot.

[RadiantCowbells]

Doesn't take a genius to realize that the wagon on me is the one that scum are pushing. Vifam is being obvscum and Nero, TTTTT, etc. are trying to get me lynched to keep him alive.

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't cop Nero. I want to lynch him for the satisfaction of doing so on D2 regardless of alignment and I don't want to have to deal with him being conftown while I do so.

[RadiantCowbells]

With him being potentially confirmed town* yeah call it a slip I dare you.

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Firebringer has cited and I have independently verified that this is exactly the kind of rhetoric you pull as scum when wagoned. 'Oh it's not too bad if I get lynched, gonna vote X because they might be scum' though.
If you are really town you are going to get lynched anyway because all of the competent and non-scum people in the game think you're scum, so you would be doing the game a favour by selfvoting here.

[RadiantCowbells]

You are talking to me like you know for 80%+ sure that I'm town. All of your posts have indicated such. If you are truly the kind of player who would still be pushing me here, I would want you dead anyway.

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Every choice or word, every phrasing, every little piece of sentence structure belies your thought process when writing. It is clear to me that you think that my slot is town, whether through being informed or simply a read. Pushing on me under either of those circumstances makes me happy to lynch you.

Or rather what posts specifically make you think I know you're town

A more useful question: which posts DON'T give me the impression that you know or think that I'm town? Idk none really.

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Feels to me like you're scum setting up to try to get me as a deadline lynch and be like MEH NOT SUPER SURPRISED NOT MY CHOICE tomorrow. Bullshit, you always have a choice.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well there's a LoX wagon. Do you think that he is more or less likely to be scum than me?

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And yet they get an equal bid into the BO3 RC/Tywin/LoX dichotomy why? That feels pretty off to me.

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And Firebringer, and I suppose LoX will have to vote you again.

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Alright Vifam's scum. I want them vigged or copped if I do get lynched.

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if

I'll give you a hint. there's none. unless Firebringer is scum bussing but I'll worry about that another time.

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Firebringer I did not find one but at this point I don't think it matters. They transparently know that my slot is town and deserve a lynch for pushing me with that read.

Them lying about the read to not be corralled into voting LoX makes me think that this is a facade to vote someone that they find threatening and want out of the game.

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Yeah but I'm sure that your scummates do

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Or it's possible that LoX and Vifam are scumbuddies hence LoX immediately jumping off of the wagon when he would have known the consequences of that and Vifam refusing to vote him.

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The repeated fallback on 'yo boyz just chillin' is noted and I'm pretty sure it's just a way to duck responsibility for their actions and if someone is going to play like shit and cite just chillin they deserve death anyway so.

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Yeah but you're not town though soooooooo =]

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I mean you're not wrong. I probably do take this game too seriously. I intend to win it though and the path to that is through you so bye.

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Like in my head im just chilling but maybe people see something different in my towngames

This post is just so sketchy. The way he specifically cites towngames after saying it's NAI.
And the 'like in my head im just chilling' is such a dirty way to duck responsibility for being on the wagon that he's on. Like sorry I was just chilling when I lynched town.
I can't even phrase all of the gut reaction I get to it because that opener is just screaming at me to lynch it. I find it so difficult to think that town would say that in that way.

[RadiantCowbells]

You are trying to convince the person that you are voting and in doing so claiming are scum that you are town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, wrt the LoX, me, Tywin thing: it's a massive scumtell when prior events create unshakable reads that players refuse to change as the circumstances change.

He's basically saying that his scumread on Pepcho is so strong that nothing I've done has shifted my read IRT the LoX hydra. Does that make sense?

[RadiantCowbells]

This is most likely my last post in this day phase.

I am town. The wagon on Pepcho never made sense and was mostly a lurker wagon. I want you all to reread this post in particular.

Like idk. On one hand Pep is just a low resistance wagon but on the other hand he's maybe scum that is lurking it out, but if he's scum then I don't think he'd siteflake to just "lurk it out" so he's prob telling the truth out his IRL problems. Of course that doesn't mean he couldn't have been sent a red pm.

In the meantime, Ali can explain to me why he thought James was scum for appealing to meta but SlySly isn't.

This is a scumclaim on so many levels when you couple it with Nero Cain's behaviour around my slot.
The wagon up to this stage was justified by him only by him saying 'oh I'm sheeping SSBM' and stuff about the slot lurking. He agreed later that the slot's lurking was NAI at this point.
Enter RadiantCowbells. Nero Cain goes from having no real interest in discussing the slot or pushing it to all of a sudden THIS MUST DIE PURGE EVERYTHING RC SAID GRAGH.
His justification is that... he thinks that I'm scum. Does anyone in this game legitimately

scumread

any content that I have produced in this game?
Does it make sense to anyone that Nero Cain suddenly picked up a MASSIVE powerlynch deathtunnel scumread on my slot based on MY content?
Nero has played with Scum!RC and is well aware that my scum meta involves pushing lynches and being active. He would have no reason to scumread lack of content.
He then goes back to citing 'slightly scummy Pepcho' as a reason for voting me even though he has never explained why Pepcho was scummy besides talking about lurking which he agreed NAI.
That slot absolutely needs to die before endgame.

Vifam on the other hand is probably scum? but if he's not he's a policy lynch.
I'll be blunt. I am an asset to town if I am town. Vifam is crippling dead weight this self admits to not reading the game properly and cites 'chilling' to justify all of his shit play.
He's the kind of player that regardless of alignment I am going to WOTC in all of my future games because this honestly isn't worth putting up with.
It does not take any kind of stretching of the imagination to find that I will be more useful with him; and on top of that some people disagree but I am generally considered p good.

Is anyone in this game actually SO CONFIDENT that I am going to flip scum that they can't give me another day phase to produce content rather than lynch confirmed detriment?

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I am not quite sure how to parse TTTT and SSBM so I don't want to leave a moral imperatives on their slot but I'm not happy with the votes on me and TTTT is probably a good lynch somewhere down the line just based on how scummy the manner in which he's pushing me has been but again I can't get a solid read there without both time and some space to operate.

If I am getting lynched today I want both of those slots lynched. Also want to point out WRT Nero that descriping lynches as 'flips' is a massive scumtell.

GL town if I get lynched, don't let anyone who voted me here get away with it because I may not be able to determine which votes are scum but the stickiness of a wagon with utterly no evidence given for it in thread besides that my predecessor lurked in a provably NAI situation proves that it's scum led. The people still on it at the end of the day should be interrogated rigorously and tbh I think you will get most of the scum if you systematically lynch the wagon.

[RadiantCowbells]

This is most likely my last post in this day phase.

I am town. The wagon on Pepcho never made sense and was mostly a lurker wagon. I want you all to reread this post in particular.

Like idk. On one hand Pep is just a low resistance wagon but on the other hand he's maybe scum that is lurking it out, but if he's scum then I don't think he'd siteflake to just "lurk it out" so he's prob telling the truth out his IRL problems. Of course that doesn't mean he couldn't have been sent a red pm.

In the meantime, Ali can explain to me why he thought James was scum for appealing to meta but SlySly isn't.

This is a scumclaim on so many levels when you couple it with Nero Cain's behaviour around my slot.
The wagon up to this stage was justified by him only by him saying 'oh I'm sheeping SSBM' and stuff about the slot lurking. He agreed later that the slot's lurking was NAI at this point.
Enter RadiantCowbells. Nero Cain goes from having no real interest in discussing the slot or pushing it to all of a sudden THIS MUST DIE PURGE EVERYTHING RC SAID GRAGH.
His justification is that... he thinks that I'm scum. Does anyone in this game legitimately

scumread

any content that I have produced in this game?
Does it make sense to anyone that Nero Cain suddenly picked up a MASSIVE powerlynch deathtunnel scumread on my slot based on MY content?
Nero has played with Scum!RC and is well aware that my scum meta involves pushing lynches and being active. He would have no reason to scumread lack of content.
He then goes back to citing 'slightly scummy Pepcho' as a reason for voting me even though he has never explained why Pepcho was scummy besides talking about lurking which he agreed NAI.
That slot absolutely needs to die before endgame.

Vifam on the other hand is probably scum? but if he's not he's a policy lynch.
I'll be blunt. I am an asset to town if I am town. Vifam is crippling dead weight this self admits to not reading the game properly and cites 'chilling' to justify all of his shit play.
He's the kind of player that regardless of alignment I am going to WOTC in all of my future games because this honestly isn't worth putting up with.
It does not take any kind of stretching of the imagination to find that I will be more useful with him; and on top of that some people disagree but I am generally considered p good.

Is anyone in this game actually SO CONFIDENT that I am going to flip scum that they can't give me another day phase to produce content rather than lynch confirmed detriment?

I am not quite sure how to parse TTTT and SSBM so I don't want to leave a moral imperatives on their slot but I'm not happy with the votes on me and TTTT is probably a good lynch somewhere down the line just based on how scummy the manner in which he's pushing me has been but again I can't get a solid read there without both time and some space to operate.

If I am getting lynched today I want both of those slots lynched. Also want to point out WRT Nero that descriping lynches as 'flips' is a massive scumtell.

GL town if I get lynched, don't let anyone who voted me here get away with it because I may not be able to determine which votes are scum but the stickiness of a wagon with utterly no evidence given for it in thread besides that my predecessor lurked in a provably NAI situation proves that it's scum led. The people still on it at the end of the day should be interrogated rigorously and tbh I think you will get most of the scum if you systematically lynch the wagon.

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It's the context. It makes me feel like, in context, Nero knows that I'm going to flip town and is softening the mislynch by calling it a flip.
It's not a scumtell in isolation but I really dislike it in the contexts that he's using it, especially with how flimsy his claimed reads are.

[RadiantCowbells]

Look through Nero's iso and find any sort of explanation for why he is so dead certain that I am scum because I was unable to find it.
I feel like he forgot that he backed off on Pepcho being uberscummy and was planning to cite that as his primary evidence when he was pushing on me but never got called for it.

AndrojX feels like they could easily be scum but like they have produced four posts and there's very little alignment indicative to go on.
I don't like their read on James3 though because it feels very LAMIST by going through the motions on super trivial details but not really going anywhere with it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Both of those slots = Vifam and Nero Cain for the record. You're also in scumtention but you're literal absolute null because I haven't gotten around to reading you yet.

[RadiantCowbells]

And there's other people in the same boat but I'm singling out Nero because I know that he is not a shitty player as town but he is playing like one and that coupled with a garbled super strong scumread on town that went entirely unexplained throughout the game and feels to me like it doesn't actually have an explanation for it makes me want to see it dead.

Vifam I can't say for certain that he's scum but I can say for certain that he is of absolutely no use to town if he's town and he's scummy enough to be worth a lynch.

[RadiantCowbells]

I want to point out that Fitz saying to vote me to make the game a better lynch implies that it's somewhat policy for my Hangman trolling but at the same time Vifam is being Vifam so that doesn't make sense to me.

[RadiantCowbells]

I agree that there's a chance that Vifam is town, however I strongly townread all 3 non-Firebringer slots on the wagon and I think Firebringer is likely enough to bus.

I think that town are split between Vifam and LoX wagons and we're not getting anything done as a result.

[RadiantCowbells]

Man Nero if you are not town all the positive thoughts I had about your play after the game were PK were seriously, seriously astray.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that scum are not on Vifam nor LoX nor anyone besides me.
I think there's scum being sticky on my wagon trying to get it through before I become unlynchable over time and there's scum sitting on the side waiting to see whether to get a NL or lynch my slot.
Whether these wagons are scum is somewhat academic because I've changed my mind about the counterwagon thing. I think that scum just expect to see a no lynch regardless.

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why do I have this feeling there are players in this game who scumread RC but aren't voting him because their lumpy bits haven't descended yet?

Well in this case that would be a good thing because I am fucking town. I thought you were coming around on my slot?

[RadiantCowbells]

Alright so I was holding this scumread back because of tactical reasons but I am 100% positive that Firebringer is scum this game. This isn't how he deals with me as town period.
His 'paranoia' of me at this point in the game is incredibly fake and he is far more likely to be cheeky like this as scum because if he was town he would be genuinely concerned about me living the game as scum.
Firebringer is definitely scum, Nero is probably scum, Vifam is likely scum and a strong lynch. That's my set of lynches.

If Vifam doesn't get going I will selfvote to ensure that we get a lynch and my confirmation. I want to see Firebringer vigged/lynched no later than tomorrow and the others to not reach LyLo.

[RadiantCowbells]

A lot of the shit I've pulled was purely strategic but my current readset is given purely as is. I will not be wrong on Firebringer this game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't see my continued living as particularly valuable if I have to invest this kind of effort into not getting lynched every day. It's not worth it to me at this point.
Firebringer's scum and there's probably other scum on my wagon getting away with this crap. TTTTT/Fitz are really good contenders and Vifam is just policy lynch worthy.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't care whether you're pushing my lynch but I am certain that you're scum and I want to see you dead.
I think it's hilarious that you're cheeky enough to try to pull this bullshit after the bullshit you pulled in your last scum game but you're not getting away with it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Nero you're voting and hard pushing me with absolutely no one behind it and no one is questioning you. The fact that people are following you should give you massive red flags.
The fact that you aren't getting massive red flags from it heavily indicates to me that you're either scum or terrible.
Either way, calling me Titus with a penis seems to have been intended as an insult but all it did is make me laugh at you.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, you shouldn't think that people would be just accepting you being on the wagon with putting shit behind it.
If you were pushing scum with the pretenses you've gave some scum would see that as an opportunity to chainsaw you and it would work because you've put shit behind it.
All it would take is one person who ISN'T me, because I have been getting discredited this entire game to the piont that my words are basically ignored, calling you out and a wagon will fom.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am staying on Vifam for the reasons I've outlined.
Voting Tywin at this stage in the game only serves to split the wagons further and is a great way to strategically get me deadline lynched. But I think you're aware of that.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I think that you're scum and I think that if you ARE town you are certain to get lynched at some point during the course of this game and unlikely to do anything helpful, so why not now.

[RadiantCowbells]

There has not, at a single point in this game, been a case presented at my slot following Pepcho's replace out, and yet the votes are still as sticky as they are. That should be god tier red flags.

[RadiantCowbells]

People assume certain personality types are always town incorrectly. Yours is one of them. I am genuinely pretty sure that you are scum here.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm saying that I am not surprised how hard he is to lynch despite admitting to not having read the game and having done nothing whatsoever for town this game besides defend himself.

[RadiantCowbells]

He's giong to get lynched THIS GAME, yes. I don't think he is an easy person to lynch in general simply because people will unconsciously assume not getting fazed by wagon = town.

[RadiantCowbells]

All this 'RC or bust' bullshit from people with no case on my slot makes me think that Vifam is scum and they're hiding behind it to avoid bussing.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean if we had time I wouldn't be voting Vifam because there's some serious bullshit going on within the people voting me and I want to deal with it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Alternatively scum are just fine with forcing a NL if they can't get rid of me and don't feel motivated to vote for Vifam because they don't expect to gain towncred for voting him at this stage?

[RadiantCowbells]

But I genuinely think that Vifam is more likely than not to flip scum for the reasons that I posited and while I am now concerned about 2 and iffy on a third wagon member I'd still like to see it go through.

[RadiantCowbells]

But Comm you think that scum is likely Fitz/Peregrine rather than Nero or TTTTT? Why?

[RadiantCowbells]

My play is never bad for I am the great RC and can do no wrong

[RadiantCowbells]

Also I really suspect that Vifam's COMPLETE disregard for the gamestate is a scum flanderization of his normal play. I agree that in general he's not the most serious player but this is something else.
I really don't think he's town and I really would like to see his lynch go through today on him.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also you might be right about putting Pere5 at the top of the scum-on-my-wagon list. I sort of wrote them off because I've heard so much negativity about them as a player but his case is literally NAI for the most part and disregards the fact that I turned around and played serious when I had killed the initial momentum against me. That feels like an intentional misrepresentation of the facts to justify the vote.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have produced a fuckton of content and read the entire game Peregrine. Maybe you should read

my

slot and not ask me to read the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have more posts than TTTTT and Nero combined and I certainly have far more content than either.

[RadiantCowbells]

In fact I would say I have more content than my entire wagon combined.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think we should just PL the RC or bust folks for being obnoxious and stupid.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah whoever said the Pere5 was the scum on my wagon was right. There's absolutely no way that he completely missed every single content post that I produced.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am going to post 3dg at you if you try to engage with me so you are better off not doing so. I don't mind quoting 3dg though so if it's a shared interest, then you can go ahead.

[RadiantCowbells]

No time for goodbye, he said
As he faded away
Don't put your life in someone's hands
They're bound to steal it away
Don't hide your mistakes
'Cause they'll find you, burn you
Then he said
If you want to get out alive
Run for your life
If you want to get out alive
Run for your life

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh wow LoX was town what a surprise.

VOTE: PeregrineV

Hey fuckface go be useful or die.

Also Fire you're scum just shh.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why do you never support lynches on me? You always defend me when I get wagoned when I am scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

When you are scum*

[RadiantCowbells]

fuck i scum slipped.

might as well selfvote to speed up the wagon.

VOTE: firebringer

whoops my finger slipped.

[RadiantCowbells]

wow I am actually pretty drunk right now ngl.

[RadiantCowbells]

let's play a game

I will not lynch you today but in return you must help me bus the scumpartner who argued with me about the correct nightkill in scumchat.

[RadiantCowbells]

well fuck I can't think of anyone to be scum atm.

it's probably just vifam or something

[RadiantCowbells]

Can I just lie and say that I hard scumread someone and see what happens? and lol LoX was obvtown I just didn't want to point it out and get them nightkilled.

also VOTE: PeregrineV like in spite of how much bitching I've heard about how bad of a player you are you are gonna do something useful or goodbye.

[RadiantCowbells]

MAN WHO GIVES A SHIT BOTH MEMBERS OF THE SLOT WERE OBVIOUS TOWN WHY ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING THIS

[RadiantCowbells]

Can I just lie and say that I hard scumread someone and see what happens? and lol LoX was obvtown I just didn't want to point it out and get them nightkilled.

also VOTE: PeregrineV like in spite of how much bitching I've heard about how bad of a player you are you are gonna do something useful or goodbye.

You pretty much need to keep your vote on me all day.

There was a game where Titus who is already good at strongarming wagons as her own namewapped with me in a hydra; she posted as me, I posted as her.
She was amazed at how easy it was to get people to follow me.

I am a lot better at getting my way than Titus is and I am a lot more willing to lynch people for pissing me off as you have done this game.
If you want to have this fight then we can have this fight but no one wins this fight with me.

[RadiantCowbells]

And that's like purely on ego. I legitimately think you're scum here so there's no chance of me backing down from a PL which would be liable to happen otherwise. Be useful or die.

(expired on 2017-02-08 18:00:00).

[RadiantCowbells]

I am not playing against my wincon. I think that you are scum and I have detailed why I think that you are scum and you have consistently fallen short of being useful.

If you are not going to be useful I see no reason not to lynch you today.

[RadiantCowbells]

I like Titus too btw. she's awesome.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am actually really sick of people softing PR to get out of me pressuring them.

[RadiantCowbells]

It's the avatar I think. My usual choice of Annie avatars don't usually scream terrifying threat to people unless they've already played with me.

Then again whenever I try to change to something else I get a massive backlash so maybe I am stuck with these avatars.

[RadiantCowbells]

You mean Castiel or my previous Annie avatar?

[RadiantCowbells]

I can still lynch Vifam btw.

[RadiantCowbells]

And RC prob isn't town here.

lol.

[RadiantCowbells]

lol so what you're voting androjx because he's a replacement?

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: TTTTT

I am going to vote this for now.

Has produced no game related content besides talking about how I need to die. He has not produced anything resembling a case on my slot. Feels like scum coasting on the fact that other people are being cancerous fucking morons around my slot to the point that it's difficult-impossible to tell who is scum pretending to be a cancerous fucking moron and who actually is a cancerous fucking moron.

[RadiantCowbells]

Then again I could easily be wrong and PeregrineV could be the scum hiding amongst the cancerous fucking morons but then again I think that town wincon is served by lynching people this bad.

[RadiantCowbells]

Did anyone notice the person who hardclaimed investigative soft PR?

[RadiantCowbells]

Nah it's not dumb. Regardless of what your alignment is scum did not want your lynch to go through.

[RadiantCowbells]

There is scum in the RC or bust crowd, or this town is so shitty that it deserves to lose. Either way we are lynching in that group of players.

I want everyone who isn't Peregrine, Fitz, SSBM, or TTTTT to give me their reads on all four members of that voting block.

[RadiantCowbells]

There is scum in the RC or bust crowd, or this town is so shitty that it deserves to lose. Either way we are lynching in that group of players.

I want everyone who isn't Peregrine, Fitz, SSBM, or TTTTT to give me their reads on all four members of that voting block.

VOTE: Vifam
More I think about it that was scum posturing that they were fine with their own lynch.
Seen it all the time, done it myself dozens of times.

[RadiantCowbells]

That includes you Vifam.

I'm not going to pretend that I will take your reads into account at all but it'll be useful for reading you.

Posts like these annoy me btw.
Please stop posting them, regardless of your alignment

My kid gloves are off by necessity. If you want me to replace out I will do so but otherwise I am playing this game to win it and that means doing what I am doing.

[RadiantCowbells]

Town has been absolute shit as a collective so far. The only wagon that had anyone I was townreading on it and had any popular support was LoX. He was town. I am town.

Vifam is excluded from that pile as he may have been scum but if he's scum that just makes it even more likely that scum is hiding in the RC or bust pile.

I can *try* to continue to be nice but I think that will end in someone that I do not want getting lynched lynched. Rhetoric works.

[RadiantCowbells]

I like to posture. It's effective. I have gamestate reasons to suspect that scum are pushing my wagon, all of the slots on my wagon have produced literally fuck all when it comes to content, their votes on my wagon were excruciatingly sticky, they were constantly called out for their lack of reasons and didn't provide anyway, and they have all been obnoxious fucks in general.

[RadiantCowbells]

SSBM, read on the other 4? Nero/TTTTT/Fitz/Peregrine?

[RadiantCowbells]

I asked you a question Vifam.

[RadiantCowbells]

You answer my question and I will answer mine: though I think the answer to the question you asked is obvious if you read through my recent posting. There's also another 2 people that I'd look into off my wagon.

Okay then SSBM. What is your read on all of the people who were voting my slot?

[RadiantCowbells]

You didn't answer my question yet.

[RadiantCowbells]

I want everyone who isn't Peregrine, Fitz, SSBM, Nero Cain, or TTTTT to give me their reads on all five members of that voting block.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you take pleasure in being an obstinate stick in the mud I can just lynch you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have better things to do.

Nah Nero I am going to stick with TTTTT because I think there's a marginally higher % that he's scum than you are. Don't worry I will get back to you tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

How is no one else but me picking up this behavior?!?!?!?

that its Titus?

I just want to point out: deathtunneling and omgussing is not a scum trait for Titus. It's a town trait for Titus. She's alot more reasonable and less deathtunnel/omgusy as scum.

Inherent in Nero's accusation is the comparison of my play to another player's town play... but because he's voting me he's suggesting that I'm scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

I might actually switch to Nero before I lynch TTTTT but I'll think about that later.
VIfam, vote with me.

[RadiantCowbells]

ITT RC chainlynches

See you keep making all these accusations but at no point in these accusations do you suggest that I'm scum. You just list things that I'm /doing/.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Nero Cain

Sorry if I made this game less pleasant for you Fire but the bullshit that has let 4 people get away with forcing a NL and never explaining a read has to end.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fuzzy what is your read on Nero Cain and why? I am going to focus on that palyer today.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I feel like Nero is legitimately just slipping that he knows that I'm town. His Titus comparison suggests that I'm town, the use of the word flip in context, the lack of reasons, the treating the 'fight' like it's survivor and not mafia. NOW THE CASE HE'S PROPOSING IS SIMPLY REASONS NOT TO TOWNREAD ME. Yes I may be scum falling back on scum meta- BUT WHY DOES HE THINK THAT IF HE DOESNT THINK I AM SCUM IN THE FIRST PLACE. Yes, I OMGUS regardless of alignment- WHY DOES HE THINK THAT I AM SCUM DOING IT HERE.

There's no indication anywhere in Nero's ISO of why he thinks that I'm scum besides vague bullshit about Pepcho that he even agreed wasn't relevant.

[RadiantCowbells]

See like Nero can't even push me as scum. He has to resort to citing it as being policy; which would be believable but then there's the token 'OH BUT HE'S SCUM TOO'.

Do you think town ever talks about my slot the way that Nero has when he thinks that I'm scum? Uses those comparisons to Titus's town game? Can't come up with a justification to scumread?

[RadiantCowbells]

When does someone say regarding their harshest scumread that they 'can't put it past them' to be doing the scum interpretation of what they're doing rather than saying something like 'LOL YOU CAN MAKE UP WHATEVER YOU WANT ABOUT YOUR SELF META YOU SCUMFUCK'

[RadiantCowbells]

Why don't you give reasons that I'm scum. You still haven't Nero. You've just said reasons that you shouldn't townread me; which is fair enough. Why am I /scum/.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you have these clear reasons in your ISO of why my slot is

scum

, then surely you can bring them up so that I can review them.

[RadiantCowbells]

You are implying that I play against my win condition as town for tactical reasons. No. I do not remember you giving anything about why my slot is scum.

I remember you saying several times that you weren't going to townread certain things and I remember you saying that pepcho COULD still be scum even though you said his lurking was NAI:

But why my slot is SCUM? No, I haven't seen it so if it's there I'd love for you to bring it up.

[RadiantCowbells]

I explicitly said it was the context. I think saying flip on people that you're meh-scum to nullreading is perfectly acceptable. I have never seen town call a lynch on someone that they scumread as hard as you are claiming to scumread my slot in this game to the point of your RC or bust bullshit a flip. But please misrepresent my reasoning.

[RadiantCowbells]

What does RC subbing in have to do with PEPs ability to get a red pm?

WHAT DOES THE FACT THAT PEP /COULD/ POTENTIALLY HAVE GOTTEN A RED PM HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING.

WHY DID I

ACTUALLY

GET THAT RED ROLE PM THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT I GOT.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sure Pepcho could have gotten a role pm. Sure I could listen to country music for the rest of my life. Sure I could have an empty jar of nutella by my toaster. Why is it actuality?

[RadiantCowbells]

There you go. Nero Cain literally cannot come up with a single reason that he is scumreading me to the extent of pulling that RC or bust bullshit.
So he's either 1) Scum who realizes he cannot actually justify his reads or 2) Town who is pushing on someone that they don't actually believe are scum and lying about it or 3) too thick to string two words together while also being extremely poor at mafia (regardless of alignment)
Whichever of those categories he falls into I am happy to remove him from this game posthaste.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you had something worth saying to say then I will let you say it. I have an assignment to do, you have an hour or so to present your full and complete case as to why I am scum.

And no, I never called it a policy lynch. I think it's likely that you are scum but I am pointing out that the situation under which you are town makes a bunch of assumptions about your intelligence or your propensity to push lynches on people that you are strongly scumreading it. But I did earlier say that I was happy policy lynching the entire block of players that you belong to.

[RadiantCowbells]

To clarify: I never called the lynch on Nero a policy lynch. I am attempting to scumhunt on my wagon and find scum but if a wagon takes off on another that I'm not scumreading as much I won't say no.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not super impressed with RC so far

like RC came in and lulzly threatens to OMGUS deathtunnel anyone that scumreads them and really didn't do anything and he expected to be town read off of that? Oh fuck that.

I mean his whole trying to save RC is possibly buddy play or scum that knows RC is town.

This is a scumclaim on so many levels when you couple it with Nero Cain's behaviour around my slot. The wagon up to this stage was justified by him only by him saying 'oh I'm sheeping SSBM' and stuff about the slot lurking. He agreed later that the slot's lurking was NAI at this point.

lies. There's 979 and 980. Yes, Its mostly sheeping/agreeing with SSBM but there is more than the "Nero is sheeping SSBM." and talking about his "lurking". He obviousky wasn't lurking as he was replaced but that doesn't stop him from being scum.

Does anyone in this game legitimately scumread any content that I have produced in this game?

Does it make sense to anyone that Nero Cain suddenly picked up a MASSIVE powerlynch deathtunnel scumread on my slot based on MY content?

You didn't have any content until 1122 and I'm not going to town read you based of your self meta that town you does shit all.

Nero has played with Scum!RC and is well aware that my scum meta involves pushing lynches and being active.

AH! So you claim to be playing to your scum meta now.

For today I'm mostly annoyed that they are pretending like I didn't give any reasoning yesterday.

This still doesn't say why I'm scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like the only thing that legitimately has merit as pointing out why I'm scum is saying that I'm playing to my scum meta and that's literal garbage thinking.

[RadiantCowbells]

I do not at all like how many people quickly wrote off me VS nero as TvT. It makes me feel like it's not TvT. I want to point out that Nero is full of shit saying he thinks I'm Titus since the 3 of us have been in games.

I am really concerned about the current gamestate. I feel like Nero deliberately baited me into a fight to throw it and have the game write us off as TvTing.

[RadiantCowbells]

If Nero is town though TTTTT becomes by far my highest scumread among the people that were on my wagon. There's lots of bad from that slot.

[RadiantCowbells]

I might just lynch Vifam. My townreads are voting it and my scumreads are pushing the counterwagons to it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm going to slow down and not do anything until I have time to reread the full game. This'll be tomorrow night or they night after. Don't get too entrenched in reads.

[RadiantCowbells]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=64645 among others