~laundry~ FIN

[Fro99er]

VOTE: creature since my plan was stupid.

[Fro99er]

Yo, Pine. Calm down. I actually want to play with nacho. He's a nice dude and I've never played a full online game with him.

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Don't drive him away to replace out, please.

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I meant before the Cop claim.

Yet even after the cop claim you still have some kind of problem with me.

I'm done with this. I'm going to sit here, and have fun, and if you want to ruin it then I'll ignore you.

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Which is ironic i know coming from me, but as soon as I realized I was legit pissing tammy off I apologized. I'm here to have fun. I siteflaked the first time because it wasn't fun anymore.

Luckily I'm in a better place in life now, so there's no outside influences to making me want to siteflake. But I still wan't to have fun. that's the point of playing.

[Fro99er]

You don't seem like the type to be hurt over something like this.

I have thin skin.

I already know that. A lot of people do. I'm an emotional guy and I want everyone to be happy. I've had some things happen in my life where all I want is happiness. That's literally the most important thing to me.

I'll give you a pass, because you don't know me. And you should give me a pass for fucking up the vig thing, because I've never played with you.

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Desperado also on Creature I think.

correct.

it was desp who voted creature, not you.

[Fro99er]

yo, toogs, desp already pointed that out to me. I missed it so my bad.

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Gerry is also now conveniently avoiding the thread while posting a lot elsewhere on site.

[Fro99er]

I never voted Creature, someone was bundling me in with that as a Creature wagon supporter, and it's not me.

Yea, that's my fault. I seemed to recall you did.

[Fro99er]

Hi, fuck off. I'm on a flight with slow wifi. i'm here now

yet you've been posting all day

[Fro99er]

Hi, fuck off. I'm on a flight with slow wifi. i'm here now

yet you've been posting all day

or at least all the past couple hours. it's not hard to search your post history.

[Fro99er]

Hi, fuck off. I'm on a flight with slow wifi. i'm here now

yet you've been posting all day

or at least all the past couple hours. it's not hard to search your post history.

derp, i can't read am and pm.

FML

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READ THE NEXT POST

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Gerry, it's hard to believe we have two masons, you and someone else who can conftown each other, a cop, a watcher, etc.

What do you think of my claim?

[Fro99er]

I'll have to take a closer look at you tonight.

stop crumbing stuff you can't do.

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I could get on board now with lynching Gerry and leashing creature to watch me.

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<3 Tammy.

I'm sorry I made you mad earlier. I had intentions for driving up the wagon the way I did, and it wasn't to make you mad.

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Gerry should fullclaim or eat rope

UNVOTE:

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Literally tired of being lynched day 1 as town. Half of the people are voting me cause of my attitude and not cause they scumreading me. It's pathetic

You wouldn't get lynched if you claimed.
Confirmable town role and all that.

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Gerry, you are dying today without a fullclaim.

If you are town you will fullclaim. Period.

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My claim only helps mafia. I'm doing a service to town. If you wanna be bad, go ahead and vote me

before I vote Gerry, Creature should watch the cop, do we agree on that?

[Fro99er]

Ok, so creature is watching me.

VOTE: Gerry

[Fro99er]

I can't talk about my modifier until tomorrow, but I will claim it first thing tomorrow. Along with a few more WAAAAHHH's

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

Actually I want to see if we can get Gerry to explain. I'm literally here until deadline and Gerry is my only vote consideration unless he fullclaims.

[Fro99er]

Tammy and I are the Washing Machines. You don't see us yelling, "Good luck doing your laundry without the Washing Machines," even though we know we are destined for death.

LOL

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UUUUUUUUUUUGGHHHHH

I'm so torn with Gerry and Creature

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

[Fro99er]

Is someone going to target him with a GET A BETTER ATTITUDE action? No.

Oh my god I died laughing.

[Fro99er]

If andy really is a vig, we're going to have to figure out a way for him not to vig my cop check.

[Fro99er]

holyshit

VOTE: creature

[Fro99er]

Creature has 7 votes

[Fro99er]

Creature (7): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine, Desperado, Andrius, Nachomamma8, Fro99er

[Fro99er]

@Gerry -- you said you're the Student ID. Who's Student ID are you, and do you know the flavor of the person who you know will be conftown to you?

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

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fuck there's still 6 people on the sly wagon too

SlySly (6): drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, MariaR

[Fro99er]

nice distancing from sly, maria

I kinda dont think Sly is maf :/

I kinda believe his flavor and idk why a key would be maf

just so you know, there is 1 maf that's hard defending me. It could be zach, but idk. he has seen me play like this before as town.

Maria is mafia 100% she would know i'm town if she was town.

Creature/Sly is prob one maf since the vote was split so well. I think Creature.

Nacho is maf also.

Not sure what to make of these from Gerry re: sly

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PLAYERLIST
1. Desperado - NO
2. drealmerz7 -
3. Zachstralkita - NO
4. Pine *
5. Ser Arthur Dayne - NO
6. MariaR - NO
7. Firebringer
8. SlySly - NO
9. Fro99er - NO
10. Nosferatu *
11. McMenno

Aeronaut

12. Toogeloo - NO
13. gerryoat * - NO
14. Creature - NO
15. Nachomamma8 * - NO
16. Tammy - NO
17. Andrius - NO

I need to figure out who else could be Gerry's conftown. The NO's aren't.

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alright, i don't support a Gerry lynch. I think I know what's up.

[Fro99er]

It has to either be sly or creature today.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Creature

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Votecount 1.23

I regret trying to put flavor in every votecount. Just these 3 votecounts doing jack shit is such a relief.

SlySly

(6): drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne, Zachstralkita, Fro99er, Toogeloo, Nosferatu

Creature

(3): McMenno, gerryoat, Pine

gerryoat

(3): Nachomamma8, Andrius, Desperado

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Pine

(1): MariaR

Zachstralkita

(1): Creature

Not Voting

(2): Tammy, SlySly
17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

Votecount 1.15

In this votecount, EP makes the observation that "Ser Arthur Dayne" shares all but one letter with "laundry"

gerryoat

(7): Nachomamma8, Creature, Andrius, SlySly, Desperado, Toogeloo, drealmerz7

Andrius

(3): Zachstralkita, Nosferatu, Fro99er

Creature

(2): McMenno, Ser Arthur Dayne

Desperado

(1): Firebringer

Firebringer

(1): MariaR

Ser Arthur Dayne

(1): Pine

Not Voting

(2): Tammy, gerryoat
17 players, 9 majority.

Deadline in (expired on 2017-02-01 17:30:00)

If creature flips scum, Nacho is very suspect to me.

If creature flips town, these two wagons (the one on Gerry and the one on Sly) are interesting. Which is the scum and which is the town. Personally, I feel better about sly being scum, because that sly wagon has more of my townreads.

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You'll notice that, with three active wagons, the only one that is being seriously pushed is the one that is on scum, but SOMEHOW can't get enough votes to seal the deal?

Honestly. If Creature were Town, with 2.5 hours to deadline, scum would be CREAMING THEIR PANTS for the free excuse to "compromise on a deadline lynch OOPS IT WAS TOWN WHY DID YOU MAKE ME COMPROMISE"

you'll notice that the wagon being compromised on is... creature.
so umm no this doesn't make sense but keep pluggin away bud

I mean, I think pine's makes more sense.

Could be town was split over town!Sly and town!Gerry, and are compromising on scum.

If Creature was town I agree he'd probably be lynched pretty quickly.

[Fro99er]

Toog, now is not the time for that. Vote creature.

[Fro99er]

gerry and Sly are my preferred lynches, if I were to change, it would likely be back on Sly, I would only vote creature in the waning minutes of day if it prevents a No Lynch.

Why don't you think creature is scum?

Rephrased, why do you think Creature is town?

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Actually, if creature were town and sly was scum, then sly is almost confscum in my mind, because he wants to be off town.

and if creature is scum, then we hit scum, yay, but sly doesn't get a point toward the doublevote.

[Fro99er]

why should I think he is scum? He's been largely useless, sure, but I have no interest in lynching a Watcher claim when I have issues with other claims, and if we are going to lynch based on overall usefulness, I can think of a lot of other players other than creature who should be lynched as well. So again, why is he a lynch candidate?

Do you have an issue with my claim?

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Actually, if creature flips town, then sly is almost confscum in my mind, because he wants to be off town.

and if creature is scum, then we hit scum, yay, but sly doesn't get a point toward the doublevote.

EBWOP

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I feel like if we lynch creature and sly, we guarantee one scum.

And if we lynch creature and he's scum, we probably will find a second scum based off the resistance to creature.

[Fro99er]

Since I'll be dead or rendered usless with a roleblock most likely, if Creature flips town lynch Sly. If Creature flips scum lynch Nacho.

[Fro99er]

All aboard the NL train!!!!!!!!!

Choo chooooooooo

This is literally the worst thing we can do, since we basically guarantee scum in {Creature, Sly}

You were voting creature earlier today, what changed?

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I'm not hesitating, I just don't see why Creature is even a wagon when we have obvious issues with Sly and gerry. Best I can tell, people are voting Creature because he beetlejuices.

His role and mine are possibly different alignments

His reaction to my pressure on him after his claim, which I've pointed out several times

His reaction to my own claim, where he didn't even bother to gamesolve and then went missing again

His lack of good reasons for townreading people in his POE list

[Fro99er]

UNVOTE:

I want desp to answer.

I will vote creature after he does

[Fro99er]

nevermind that's 7 not 8. 9 to lynch

VOTE: Creature

[Fro99er]

All aboard the NL train!!!!!!!!!

Choo chooooooooo

This is literally the worst thing we can do, since we basically guarantee scum in {Creature, Sly}

You were voting creature earlier today, what changed?

I'll still vote creature

I just don't think my vote is gonna be the difference maker there

Well he's at 7 votes now. Put him at 8.

No lynch is not an option.

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I feel so much better that I can drive things now, despite andy saying I am not driving things. I didn't want to drive things too much as the cop.

[Fro99er]

Someone please vig desperado.

[Fro99er]

tomorrow if I'm dead

If creature town -> sly
If creature scum -> Nacho

[Fro99er]

I think desp is talking aobut me.

But I didn't even think about a fakeclaim, so now I'm not sure about desp. I do know my role was put in here specifically because desp is either miller or has a miller fakeclaim.

[Fro99er]

IDK, maybe don't vig Desp.

I went through his ISO and his votes certainly changed quite a bit throughout the day and were all over the place. Remind me of me as town.

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Here's the thing:

If most scum are the ones who are currently active they would buss creature.

If the scum are the ones mostly lurkers/inactive then they would not park their votes on a buddy and leave (like the 4 people on Slysly).

The logic is hurting my brain.

Can you simplify for me?

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I feel like Trump just won the Presidency all over again.

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These are amazing btw

This.

And thanks for the great game EP. I really enjoyed my one day of existence in it