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ok now we're back at whoever used any abilities that fucked with this claim.
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he was vanalised or something manipulated time periodFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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Stealing role?
that alarms bastardy
copying role maybe not but stealing role is creepy
pedit : me neither and I have no idea! But in this game "time" has shown itself as a very important factor (the sun comes up, someone had a delayed death whatever)
maybe something that would make stuff happen faster?
I have no idea, This is RC!False tears bring pain to those around you
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you mean day 3
he is not thats why something is really wrong with his killFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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and mod confirmed he didn;t die during day 2 (he said if he did, a mid day scene would be posted)False tears bring pain to those around you
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I don't like the way you are preflip associative hunting at all.In post 2702, ɀefiend wrote:@FA, here's my top 3 scumreads in TL;DR form:
DEO -- Big case on Titus explains why, and now she is largely absent. I assume you read it or skimmed it since you mentioned it earlier. Her other half Math seems to be moving from one contrivance to another. I don't buy their story Re: Lycan-"Pants" just based on the defense that "Math wouldn't do that." Now Math has spun theories in an entirely new direction and figuring out what happened to Lycan reads like scum theatre to me (that goes for you too, I think you're overdoing it. But I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.)
Gamma -- Riding on the coattails nearly the entire game. Lack of formulation of independent stances. Seems to be skating by on a double-voter claim. Also partly gut.
mhsmith -- The way he picked apart my case, only going for points that are literally nonarguable, and suggesting that meta is a good enough reason to hard-town-read DEO, does not sit right with me. I thought he was asking questions because he didn't understand my case but they were actually framed to just hard-defend Titus' actions.
Also this post details why I think mhsmith is a good bet for scum. There is no logical progression seen in his posts that would follow up with that three person lynchpool.
I don't wanna sound like it's so easy to grasp but the three of them as the remaining scumteam actually make a lot of sense to me.
Regarding DEO I can understand what your saying and your big case and before anything else I like to see you liniking a game you previously played with eaither head. I played games with them and modded their games and what you are scum reading is their usual absurd town. Their scum is way more calculated in pushes (both of them) but hey thats meta. From what I skimmed I didn't saw their tunnel on SS and Lycan unusual - Total crap - but not scummy imo. I need to do some isolated reading (I mean reading iso)
regarding try harding on setup - I am hunting down scum roles. Do you have any problems with that?
regarding Gamma I totally agree and thats why its sucks their VLA atm and why I was asking neighbours to give opinions on each other. I prefer to see them coming back and see their responses to my catchup/setup spec and to see the neighbours opinions about eachother first.
regarding mhs - that was a lurking slot since start - and I suck at sorting lurkers. you have my full support pushing that slot anytime though.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I was perfectly clear about what I was askingIn post 2711, drealmerz7 wrote:
why the repeat on asking me about other people's reads? this seems weird to me a bitIn post 2652, Frozen Angel wrote: so many players expressed townread on deo talk about that
"other people are TRing DEO, yay for them" ??? - not sure what you're looking for and I already felt weird about the jae/kuroi question from you so I'ma just stop
if you want to know about people's reads ona slot, ask them
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You commented on the Jae/kuroi deal before but your ignoring that line of thinking now cause "You need scumreads". I'm not intrested in the reads themselves but your awareness and consistency
And the second question is not loaded. Its general But not loaded obviously. Trying to make it look like that is crap.
VOTE: Drealmerz
I asked the second question to see whats your comment on me who previously expressed a townread on Deo and your read on the meta reads for that. Trying to hide behind others who are "sharing their concerns about Deo" is just the middleground crap scums will likely take when their facing that question.
Anyway, Its now obvious that you wouldn't be able to make that kill go throw all by yourself. now my question is why you calimed that in the first place?False tears bring pain to those around you
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Its about the fact your not trying to sort them not that you didn't sort them yestIn post 2723, drealmerz7 wrote:so essentially because I'm not fully decided one way or the other, I'm scum? - nope, I just don't know, it's okay to not know
and no, it absolutely was a loaded question from you
AND you just made a comment about making pre-flip associative reads, and that is ALL you're doing yourself
It wasn't a loaded question , It was a general question lol as I said I wanted to see your awareness and consistency - it failed with your wishy washy crap
and what I'm doing here has no relation to any other slots in game! Your scum because you are scum deary
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why pushing him is not allowed?False tears bring pain to those around you
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why you felt my vote will get him lynched?In post 2729, Postie wrote:
Oh, no, that's fine. He's just not getting lynched.In post 2727, Frozen Angel wrote:why pushing him is not allowed?False tears bring pain to those around you
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why he shouldn't be lynched today?In post 2731, Postie wrote:You were calling him scum so I thought that was the intention. But I guess calling people scum to put pressure on them is just what you do. Carry on.False tears bring pain to those around you
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Why he is not scum and why at least one of those three is?False tears bring pain to those around you
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no you tried to hide behind others thought when I asked yours
Thats scummy
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When you said I agree with people who has doubts about DEO in answer to what do you think about the people who townread DEO.
Thats creepy response isn't it?
Like you just said my question is "Loaded"! Your answer isn't ?False tears bring pain to those around you
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I asked you to tell your read on other people thoughts not what you interpreted from those!In post 2740, drealmerz7 wrote:you : "share other people's thoughts" - me: huh? (but I tried)
you: "how dare you share other people's thoughts as if they're you're own!"
THAT is scummy, FA
VOTE: Frozen Angel
and thats not why I voted you why are you misrepresnting stuff hardcore to justify a omgus?False tears bring pain to those around you
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my question was actually pretty strong!
Your answer was pretty dodgy!False tears bring pain to those around you
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no It wasn't rehotric at all
what gave you that impression?False tears bring pain to those around you
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meta reasons?In post 2746, Postie wrote:Guh, FA, I can understand your reasons for voting dreal but at the same time he's just not scum. It's a tonal thing I'm having a hard time explaining but just like all of his reactions and how they're happening feel extremely genuine.False tears bring pain to those around you
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so when you have no opinions about something you won'tIn post 2748, drealmerz7 wrote:
OMFGIn post 2742, Frozen Angel wrote: I asked you to tell your read on other people thoughts not what you interpreted from those!
well then, their thoughts are their own
and I'm glad they're having neuron/synapse activity in their brains
it makes me happy
I really don't know what you're getting at other than just trying to be difficult
as I said, when I have opinions I want to share, I'll share them
you digging at nothing is going to net you nothing and you giving me shit that "omg I am digging and you're not giving me anything you must be scum" is scumtastic
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ohIn post 2751, drealmerz7 wrote:WHAT I SAID WAS RHETORIC
why you want to say something rehotric?False tears bring pain to those around you
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okIn post 2753, Postie wrote:
No. Just like when scum fake rage and emotional reactions it usually feels two-dimensional and I'm not getting that here.In post 2749, Frozen Angel wrote:meta reasons?False tears bring pain to those around you
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I'm scum hunting not witch hunting,In post 2755, drealmerz7 wrote:your fake witch-hunt just became obvious
this is one of the scummiest things I've seen in mafia!!!
"if you drown you're a witch!" or whateverthefuck
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oh disengaging conversations with me will end bad for you I can promise thatIn post 2757, drealmerz7 wrote:
fucking seriously>? done with you scum, I just disengage when scum-tactics become this obviousIn post 2752, Frozen Angel wrote: why you want to say something rehotric?
others can vote with me or not, I'll be watching
You still have some questions to answer which you dodged with this Bullshit ate!False tears bring pain to those around you
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and why you can't illustrate the point like a human being?False tears bring pain to those around you
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But you illustrated no pointIn post 2760, drealmerz7 wrote:
what other animal uses rhetoric to illustrate points????In post 2759, Frozen Angel wrote:and why you can't illustrate the point like a human being?
you are so scum, you just made you exposed yourself
it happens when people come at me pretty often though
You just dodged this question
And I'm actually not? Rc sent me a town role though.False tears bring pain to those around you
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@drealm You can shoot me tonight
I'm happy with that!
what are you treathening me with? JC lolFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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and no You illustrated no points
I asked your read "generally" on the people who are townreading deo
never asked you to tell me why their townreading them
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1 - I don't care where are you fromIn post 2777, drealmerz7 wrote:you don't get to decide fuck all about anything I do with my role
don't even begin to go there
I am not from MS
I will NOT be directed
if you want to lynch me for playing my role HOW IT SHOULD BE PLAYED AND ACTUALLY SERVES TOWN
then you are going to get a fucking lecture on how to play mafia
you want that right now or you want to take a vote?
2 - You calimed vig and you will be tamed
3 - claiming vig out of nowhere in day 2 in such and scetchy way and shhooting town is not how your role should be played tbhFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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What did I miss? where you illustrated your point about me being scum? You just screamed "Holy fuck she is asking me something I can't answer and is voting me!" or some shit?In post 2769, drealmerz7 wrote:ugh...why...am...I...re-...engaging...likely...bad...but...but...
yes, I did, just because you didn't see/understand it (not that you tried), doesn't mean it didn't happenIn post 2763, Frozen Angel wrote: But you illustrated no point
wow, never heard that one before
I'm convinced
*sarcasm*
and you should be convinced! You have a scum role and this is conf single ball (unless your a sk or you have traitor?) well even if your town proving my role to you is a faulty burden and I refuse to be pressured for not being able to prove my alignment to you. Thats your job to figure it out and if your town you suck at sorting it atm.False tears bring pain to those around you
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You didn't clear anything, Thats the problem with your claim.In post 2773, drealmerz7 wrote:
so I should have not claimed the shot then? it was anti-town for me to come out and try to not have ppls be confused?In post 2767, The DEO wrote: Have you considered Drealmerz being an SK? His behavior isn't protown.
I'm not saying I cleared much up, obviously we still don't know wtf, but I have already been having second, third, fourth thoughts about sharing being right move and trying not to kick myself and then you say shit like this "not being pro-town" and...I GET FUCKING PISSED. It's hard to stay confident that I did the right thing in light of all the shit it has caused, but I still think it was the right thing SO FUCK YOU.
... I'm frustrated...
this is why I think you're scum
you are on an agenda to have ppl scumread me and get me lynched, you do not sound willing to consider what I say is truth AT ALL, you're just trying to find a way to get me scumread
and now it's come around that FA is too
scums afraid of the vig, eh? you fucking should be
and your reaction to pressure is awful
again is that typical for you in your "homesite" ?False tears bring pain to those around you
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oh and that's a pathetic way for justifying your omgus ...In post 2804, drealmerz7 wrote:"woah I suck as scum gotta check out of this seemingly awesome game so I don't destroy my scumteam - let someone better take over"
and he checked the fuck out
first lurked as much as possible and then realized he needed to GTFO
Total crap
faulty
and pathetic
100% patheticFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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lol Jesus christ!
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K I'm giving you a second chance
go back and answer my question carefully. Talk about the things I asked - don't give me Bullcrap - don't take middleground - don't mud up.
whats your read on the townread on DEO - AGAIN I'm not asking "What are the reasons people are townreading DEO or who are the people who are townreading DEO" - What is your read on the people WHO DO THAT
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UNVOTE:False tears bring pain to those around you
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and yes your vote on me is nothing more than a omgus - and a really dodgy one
Your emotional rage screams fake to me :/False tears bring pain to those around you
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I didn't make a case on you. I didn't in any manner insult you in any manner and I really don't want that to happen - sorry if you felt that way but I'm not sure what gave you that impression?
I practically just tried to poke you and you felt - really defensive - about me trying to communicate with you in a REALLY weird way and started telling some really wishy washy things that was obviously dodgy
now take your time and answer the questions I asked again. I will read Strahd tonight when I'm free and will think about the converse we just had then.False tears bring pain to those around you
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what was shaziro in that game?In post 2831, drealmerz7 wrote:cool, yeah, my read on FA here is nothing like the read I had on batoru in trials - the read I have on FA is like the read I had on shaziro in strahdFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I'm kindda cool with leashing his kill for now.In post 2835, Postie wrote:dreal is complete obvtown pls. Or at the very least not mafia. zefiend continues to dodge the elephant in the room.
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ahhh nice
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bolded partsIn post 2848, mhsmith0 wrote:?
Talk me through how you're reading FA as being angry/spammy scum!FA instead of town!FA? She's one of my relatively stronger town-reads, and creeps seemed reasonably villagery (though not particularly good) while alive; what am I missing?Like here you said
In post 2662, The DEO wrote:So one thing is pretty clear to me one of FA and Drealmerz is probably scum and if FA is then Postie is.
~~Mathbut I'm not especially sure why one of them is scum ("FA is arguing" seems to not be especially alignment indicative, and I've seen plenty of town-town fights she's been involved in, if that was in fact the reasoning there)
Explain how? I'd agree that it might not have been a productive post for creating useful discussion, but I don't see how it looks like she was just concerned about being townread.In post 2834, The DEO wrote:
This. It feels like you are more concerned about being townread than discussion.In post 2832, Frozen Angel wrote:I didn't make a case on you. I didn't in any manner insult you in any manner and I really don't want that to happen - sorry if you felt that way but I'm not sure what gave you that impression?
I practically just tried to poke you and you felt - really defensive - about me trying to communicate with you in a REALLY weird way and started telling some really wishy washy things that was obviously dodgy
now take your time and answer the questions I asked again. I will read Strahd tonight when I'm free and will think about the converse we just had then.
~~Math
why are buddying me and searching for a reason to scumread me?
who are the towns I argues with in this game and how do you know their town?
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your hood was predefinied?In post 2850, drealmerz7 wrote:I just asked him about outting our hood and he said it was fine so I did, btw
I'd initially been weirded out quite a bit in the hood because it was just deimos and I and he was not saying hardly anything
I've also had thoughts that perhaps there is another party who hasn't said any words in the hood, but that was earlier before I knew there were other hoods and was finding it odd that there was a 2p hood at all - but still don't discount the possibility that someone has been silent the hwole time, simply because of there being no list about who is in the hood
which is why I asked about the other hoods
what have you done to sort your neighbour? what was his responses?
why a 2p hood is odd?
is there a list of players in hood in op post by Rc? you tried asking him about the people who has access to your hood?False tears bring pain to those around you
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try asking RcFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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something is really eh about all these hoods aroundFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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If they are good points then what is scaring you?In post 2887, Vaxkiller wrote:mhsmith brought up some good points in 2848, which scares me because he is not part of my town block.
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Being manipulated about the townread on me or being manipulated about the way you feel about him townreading me?
and what are your townreads?False tears bring pain to those around you
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Why you're townreading us?
and what about not townreading us three is scummy?False tears bring pain to those around you
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here ^In post 2887, Vaxkiller wrote:DEO, you seem to be going after my hard town reads. Do you think creature is scum too?
I would liek to see more pressure here.False tears bring pain to those around you
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or you meant something else?False tears bring pain to those around you
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@DEO whats the case on me?False tears bring pain to those around you
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why you want to pressure them?
You said that after expressing your surprise.False tears bring pain to those around you
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postie try voting someone just to prove you can't vote todayFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I will catch up later today
sorry for inactivityFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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ok I look like a dead man walking IRL
I a informed how little time is left in this day phase but I have to read what I missed to make my mind - which will happen later tonight.False tears bring pain to those around you
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ohhh that was another role of dota mafia - a one that is not yest published - not sure If I show that role to RC though.
guess it was played before on ms.
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ok Deo can be scum
Math how the fuck you miscalculated that vote? It makes no fucking sense. You were arging about how zef was thinking vax is town and you thought he was voting him?!!False tears bring pain to those around you
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why are you scum reading me?In post 3190, Vaxkiller wrote:Reads list:
Creature, Postie
zeifiend celt
gamma celt DEO
mhsmith dreal kurio
FA JareedFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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Looking at Vax powers
I HAVE THIS GAME IN MY BAG
I'm going to reread deo isoFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I'm practically obvtown after that lynch
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