I hope you're okay.
VOTE: Indigo
Nice to meet you.
Hi! Have we played together before?
You're thinking wrong.In post 311, Infinity 324 wrote:Because I think klingon is scummierIn post 307, Nero Cain wrote:if you still think Cakez is scum why did you switch?
I don't do fake as any alignment.In post 313, Infinity 324 wrote:I get waiting and seeing, but the thing is that post is just so in line with what disengaged scum say. Even the reads sound fake.
In post 319, Nero Cain wrote:30% is actually 4 or atleast that's what google tells me. I mean, yeah, there's an inherent risk the more you draft the more likely you'll draft scum but also more brain power as long as I draft the right people. I just dunno why we shouldn't draft the max.In post 1, Firebringer wrote:The crew is limited to a maximum of thirty percent of players.
I agree.In post 332, Infinity 324 wrote:I think I'm comfortable saying nero is town now. I've played with him as town and caught him as scum before and he has this very particular playstyle as town that is very hard to fake
I followed some of your games when I first joined this site. Heartless was in Ika's Mafia Lottery:In post 338, Heartless wrote:I remember you from Gistou but not from anything else. :SIn post 295, Klingoncelt wrote:I always Townread TTH.
Up to that point I'd only made two posts: Post 12 and Post 144. Were you townreading either of those? I'm a little lost on the nature of this read, mostly the described history of "always townreading" me.
-TTH
Or it could be that I don't know a lot of the players and there are 3 V/LA.In post 370, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Generally scum but I think it comes down to play style. Some people prefer town hunting or are better at town hunting than others.In post 359, Desperado wrote:In post 312, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm not really seeing why people are scum reading KL. Entrance was awkward and the over justification for the prod dodge is a bit of a concern but she at least gave some reads. She'll have to explain those when she gets back at least and if there is more than just what has been discussed, she'll have to interact with that as well. I rather wait and see with her.
All of her reads were townreads. Which alignment do you propose is more likely to give out townreads like candy, especially that early, especially when they don't thinkliterally anything that's been discussed up to that point was alignment indicative?
Yo, you need to build a case.In post 396, Desperado wrote:Yo, Cakez wagon; you sure we can't do Kling?
I could quote 389-394 but that would seem redundant since it's on the same page and all.
It's automatic. I can't spot TTH's Scumtells.In post 400, Infinity 324 wrote:I think TTH's question was whether you townread her first 2 posts.In post 397, Klingoncelt wrote:I followed some of your games when I first joined this site. Heartless was in Ika's Mafia Lottery:In post 338, Heartless wrote:I remember you from Gistou but not from anything else. :SIn post 295, Klingoncelt wrote:I always Townread TTH.
Up to that point I'd only made two posts: Post 12 and Post 144. Were you townreading either of those? I'm a little lost on the nature of this read, mostly the described history of "always townreading" me.
-TTH
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6500652
and in Space Dandy 1:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=62603
You replaced into Shos' 11PM:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6928413
There's 6 more pages of games that I don't want to search through, plus I have a secret alt account, plus I've been in several hydras. (One of these days I'm going to make a nice, tidy list of everything.)
I don't recall ever playing with Desperado. A stranger linking to a couple posts isn't a case. He doesn't have a case. I'm Town.In post 406, Drunken Piper wrote:In post 399, Klingoncelt wrote:Yo, you need to build a case.In post 396, Desperado wrote:Yo, Cakez wagon; you sure we can't do Kling?
I could quote 389-394 but that would seem redundant since it's on the same page and all.???
I claim it every 3 or 4 games. My Day 1 is pure shit, I'm usually good Day 3.In post 423, Infinity 324 wrote:... I didn't see klingon say that.In post 421, SirCakez wrote:... Klingon also claims to play badly early on, that's not stopping the wagon on her.
Wait - you played on Wake's forum at USMB???In post 481, Nero Cain wrote:I mean maybe she does it regardless of alignment but then I've just come to the slow realization that everyone from that site is like a blackhole of pro-town play.
I don't take kindly to strangers throwing shade on me.In post 482, Desperado wrote:Seriously guys I'm not lynching anyone else today. Everything Kling says is scum 101.In post 433, Klingoncelt wrote:Unless the hydra runs through the thread screaming "I'm SCUM!!!!" at the top of their lungs, I'll townread them by default.
Not that I've noticed.In post 503, Heartless wrote:Am I being rude or offensive?
I'm voting for Indigo. It was at first a sort of belated RVS, but now that they want replaced I'm getting suspicious.In post 507, Desperado wrote:@ Everyone who isn't voting a Rogue Leader at the moment...why?
Particular emphasis on Kling, who has nothing but townreads, including two that already have votes, but isn't voting.
So now you're WhiteKnighting Cakes?In post 519, Desperado wrote:The game definitely hasn't hit it's stride yet--even normally high-frequency posters like Titus seem like nonentities 20 pages in.
I'm not really buying the Cakez wagon--Aero is RVS, Alban is giving off a lot of scum vibes and his vote was RVS and then it became real, Nero looks town but his vote is fencesitty trash, Uzi said something about rereading old games and this not being TownCakes but then built a case that didn't include a single word about meta, and AJ said Cakez is scum for voting him after only mentioning him oncein the same post that he votes Cakez without ever mentioning him before at all.
I want Klingoncelt dead.
You've already joined me on Infinity for Rogue Leader.
Think that's about it really.
Mastina has magikal powers. She freakin'In post 532, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Actually no, that answer means absolutely nothing. I'm still content with my question until I get a real answer.
/Gin
As the Star Wars story goes, yes.In post 604, Desperado wrote:Do you even know what the Rogue Leader is?
No, Desperado's tunnel on me is too stalkerish and weird. Add to that his reads onIn post 609, Infinity 324 wrote:Ooh, that's a bad vote klingon.
In post 612, Klingoncelt wrote:No, Desperado's tunnel on me is too stalkerish and weird. Add to that his reads onIn post 609, Infinity 324 wrote:Ooh, that's a bad vote klingon.everyvote on Cakes. The dude is Traitorous Scum.
Shut up, Titus. I'm not in the mood for this shit today.In post 904, Titus wrote:The Klingon vote was better.
Eww.In post 952, Nero Cain wrote: I'd lynch Mastina and KL as an alternative to a no lynch.
I can compromise on a Cakes lynch if no one wants to lynch Pine-A-Tonics. Same with Thinker.
Surely you've seen the Flow Chart.In post 992, Nero Cain wrote:Why is Tina town?In post 983, Klingoncelt wrote:Eww.In post 952, Nero Cain wrote: I'd lynch Mastina and KL as an alternative to a no lynch.
Yes, I think Desperado could be a Traitor. Like the Role. Unfortunately I can't say why because ongoing.In post 1120, Aeronaut wrote:
I mean, no, it's not really throwing shade if he's also voting you and advocating for your lynch but w/e
Also, you insisting that desp go find stuff in your ISO and ask you questions instead of you doing things this game just makes me think you're a lot more concerned with doingsomethinginstead of doing something that's going to move the game forward.
... Are you saying you think he's a traitor, like the role? Either way, this vote is not a very good one.
Please don't use the word confirmed unless the player/role/situation has been confirmed.In post 1122, Aeronaut wrote:... um, why? Mastina up to this point hasn't really done anything that's crazy-town.In post 749, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm amazed that everyone hasn't auto-sheeped Mastina.
VOTE: Pine-A-Tonics
Also aren't you voting a confirmed-scum-traitor at this point?
I have a bad feeling about this.
In post 1193, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Alright, so I don't like it when people openly admit to prodging but I don't have enough experience to judge if it's AI or not. What I don't like here is that she's saying she doesn't need to get involved in two arguments she listed, but the thing is; is that it was more than just talking about game mechanics/tools.In post 295, Klingoncelt wrote:Just a prod dodge here, I don't need to get involved with VCA arguments or multi/singleball arguments, most of the discussion here has been empty fluff worthy of a Victorian-era luncheon.
Good entrance by Nero, maybe he's Town. I always Townread TTH. Molla and the Piper look Townish. No reads at all on everyone else.
Like, IIRC there was discussion of white knighting, opinions on counterwagons and overreactions about said arguments beforehand. It feels like an overall generalization to make it look like it was not worth looking into at all when there was actually content in there to begin with.
Also, there is no way it wasn't said before but I'm getting bad vibes from the fact that not a single person pinged as scummy.
Actually after typing that, it really doesn't make much sense at all to say the "VCA and Multi/Singleball arguments" meant nothing but could find that people were townish during that period of posting.
/Gin
Titus and I could both be Mod-confirmed Innocent Child Masons and we'd still scumread each other. Happens every game.In post 1224, Desperado wrote:If you can't talk with someone in real time you can't read them?
392In post 1240, Infinity 324 wrote:yep you're rightIn post 1237, Heartless wrote:30% of 17 is 5.1. Rounding down and including ourselves, I'm under the impression we have four. Am I wrong?
There are 17 players.In post 1252, Desperado wrote:No, it's 3 choices. 30% of alive players means 30% of 16 which rounds to 4.
According to Pretty Princess' profile page ISO, her last post anywhere on MS was here, on the 13th. Scum usually don't siteflake over a single game. I think she was telling the truth.In post 1274, Heartless wrote:I would probably be voting mastin right now if I were by myself. The previous occupant of the slot was scummy. For one thing, a doctoral dissertation isn't something that just sneaks up on you. I'm not completely buying the replace-out reason. PrettyPrincess failed to post anything town in her time here. The two scumreads he may have had came out as potshots (Post 276 and Post 289).
mastina herself hasn't redeemed the slot. The scumreads themselves are mediocre at best. Her interaction with Antihero rubs me entirely the wrong way too. Just when it looked like we were getting Rogue Leader, she says she suddenly might have a change of heart (Post 1084) but she's still so generouslygiftinghim the benefit of the doubt (Post 1115). It feels very manipulative to me.
-TTH
In post 1350, Klingoncelt wrote:Yes, I think Desperado could be a Traitor. Like the Role. Unfortunately I can't say why because ongoing.In post 1120, Aeronaut wrote:
I mean, no, it's not really throwing shade if he's also voting you and advocating for your lynch but w/e
Also, you insisting that desp go find stuff in your ISO and ask you questions instead of you doing things this game just makes me think you're a lot more concerned with doingsomethinginstead of doing something that's going to move the game forward.
... Are you saying you think he's a traitor, like the role? Either way, this vote is not a very good one.
I want Desperado to read my ISO because I thinkIFhe's not a Traitor then he's just looking for a easy lynch.
(And it creeps me out when someone I've never played with is so determined to lynch me for no reason.)
I don't like your choices. Doesn't matter if you actually get to employ them.In post 1354, Desperado wrote:You have a bad feeling about my RL picks when I'm not even close to being voted RL?
Oh I'm Town alright.In post 1427, Infinity 324 wrote:Klingon isn't town, but ari is scummier.
Except that you can't read me. But you know that I can read you.In post 1440, SirCakez wrote: Titus I still SR Klingon, I'd go back there in a heartbeat
You can't read me or you would have done it correctly in some game by now.In post 1467, SirCakez wrote:I can most definitely read you. Nice discrediting attempt though.
Lack of hammer by Klingon probably means Thinker is scum, too.
In post 1468, Desperado wrote:@ Kling: The only thing you've said about Thinker all day is that you could compromise on him.
It bugs the fuck out of me that you're on the wagon.In post 1469, Desperado wrote:@ Kling: Your Rogue Leader wants this lynch too.
In post 1485, Desperado wrote:I'm not accepting any other lynch today.
She's not. They're going after what they think is low-hanging fruit.In post 1486, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why's she scum again?
Quit whining. You never did show a case on me.In post 1539, Desperado wrote:It is preplanned...I wanted Kling yesterday and then she hammered without a claim.In post 1526, Titus wrote:Klingon was a compromise if I couldn't get Infinity and this Klingon lynched seeming preplanned without me worries me.
What in ten thousand fucks are you saying?In post 1542, Desperado wrote:It doesn't matter what you interpret his actions as. I certainly never said that. Their actions said they were too busy to even respond to being at L1 and probably should have replaced out. But they didn't, and Kling hammered them without giving them the full allotment of time, and now we're here.
I'm Town.In post 1598, Infinity 324 wrote:@klingon I'm willing to give you a chance, but you need to explain why me and desp must be scum pushing a mislynch and not town coming to a logical conclusion based on the gamestate.
Day 1 VCA is worthless. Please don't waste the bandwidth.
Desperado's a pretty common username I think, but I just saw a post by a Desperado at USMB in the Flame Zone. Is that you?In post 1651, Desperado wrote:i don't even
Too bad. It would have made you seem a lot less creepy.In post 1656, Desperado wrote:no
It doesn't encourage a Townread. He has no case on me, and he's not looking much at anyone else.In post 1660, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok let's go though this.
You keep saying this, but I don't see how you being creeped out means he's scum as opposed to just you being creeped out.In post 1649, Klingoncelt wrote:unless this fucker's got an alt we've never played together before, which makes his no-case focus on me creepy and stalker-ish.
What's your issue with this explanation?[/quote]He finally tells me to vote for Thinker. I do. Thinker could be Scum, they were one of my compromise lynches. They flip Town and Desperado calls me Scum for hammering them. He says they weren't given time to claim.
In post 1594, Desperado wrote:No Kling, I was encouraging you to follow through with your own words and compromise on a Thinker lynch by giving intent to hammer so they could claim.
1. There was about 3 days left until deadline. My issue was with people picking unrealistic lynch targets, and rogue leader candidates would definitely be unrealistic.Not that you're much better. You ridiculed me for voting for you when you were getting the votes for Rogue Leader, then you went after another player (I forget who) that was voting for Heartless when they were leading the Rogue Leader votes.
It's not unusual in the early game for Scum to get picked for special roles.
Your argument against me and that other player based on popularity was completely without merit.
Have you noticed that I catch up through lots of pages? Sometimes I lose track of vote counts.In post 1661, Aj The Epic wrote:Ain't no reason to discourage someone from spending their time hunting.
Are we meant to believe you actually didn't look at the VC before hammering/didn't know the time remaining? Because I find this incredibly hard to believe in a hammer situation. And if you honestly DID believe time was running short, I'd expect you to blame Infinity, not Desperado, who was far more concerned about wagoning.