WWE Mafia - Smackdown! (Game Over - Off Television)

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Vifam
I have mod-given information this is scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

You can't fight the mod's info bro

[Gamma Emerald]

RVA?

[Gamma Emerald]

It is S

[Gamma Emerald]

haha
bit curious bout yer avvie pepto

[Gamma Emerald]

How is noticing Loved/Hated modifiers.

[Gamma Emerald]

How is noticing Loved/Hated modifiers scummy?

EBWOP

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma you are ignoring me again,, why are you not paying attention to my JUSTIFIED VOTE ON YOUR EXISTENCE?

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Gamma Emerald]

I dislike the repeated punctuation more than the capsing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Kain, can you please not spoil this game as well?

What on earth are you talking about

[Gamma Emerald]

no i dont

[Gamma Emerald]

alban you need to have thicker skin.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Grey
All these circles
Make a square

[Gamma Emerald]

KT needs to vote me 4 da meems

[Gamma Emerald]

effort is not AI

[Gamma Emerald]

DAMN BOOOOIIII

[Gamma Emerald]

datsalttho

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Titus

why

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Raw

TB seems town currently.
BTW flag me down if you need a badass motherfucker to help settle the score.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma: what are you trying to say/point out here? ELI5 plz

ELI5?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma: what are you trying to say/point out here? ELI5 plz

ELI5?

Sorry, Reddit accronym. Explain it like I'm 5 (make it painfully obvious)

Stating a read, as well as letting them know if they need someone they can call on me.

[Gamma Emerald]

The great KainTepes is a TR. Already going after scums. Very aggressive and experienced!

I also agree that MariaR/Creature look scummish. Creature less so. All gut reads,

but 60% of the time, my gut reads are right all the time.

@Titus: why is McManus town though?

This makes no sense.

[Gamma Emerald]

The great KainTepes is a TR. Already going after scums. Very aggressive and experienced!

I also agree that MariaR/Creature look scummish. Creature less so. All gut reads,

but 60% of the time, my gut reads are right all the time.

F
@Titus: why is McManus town though?

This makes no sense.

Wait... You know GoTs but not this? Sigh smh

Anchorman
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0357413/

Thanks I got it

[Gamma Emerald]

*uses fu on Gamma*

*uses STFU on Gamma*

Fuck it. That felt good.

i lold

[Gamma Emerald]

Use Flying Headbutt on Grey

[Gamma Emerald]

Grey's moves were fake. That's why I used a real move on him.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW that was not the killing blow, just the vote remover.

[Gamma Emerald]

Grey's moves were fake. That's why I used a real move on him.

Not buying this.

It is my reasoning. I taught him a quick lesson in pain. Next time he's gotta fight to win.

[Gamma Emerald]

holy fuck that was real

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh no gamma's dying

grabs popcorn

someone should save him

grabs a soda

really soon!

Why not you

[Gamma Emerald]

Also the submission finisher reminds me of the nukes from DEFCON.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't know how :3

You vote the attacker (Grey in this case)

[Gamma Emerald]

You better save me
Missy if you don't save me after that complaint it's your body that's getting slammed.

[Gamma Emerald]

I may know how to prevent Gamma from dying, but not sure if he's worth saving.

But do you SR him? I mean, by the book Mafia means it's bad to D1/N1 Vigi kill almost always. It's not a pro-town move per say, but the fallout of it may help speed up the game. I think it was a grudge kill rather than game related though, so there's not much info gained.

Grey: thoughts? What's the plan here? Do you SR Gamma or just used the ability for lols?

Yes, I scumread him. And it's not bad if it's not on town.

Hold up

If a submission finisher goes through, does the Day end?

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait so I'm not voteless, just can't move my vote.

[Gamma Emerald]

Any sr I get for that is so worth it
I thought it would just be a lynch because there really easy to break up
can you use it again or is it one shot

Once per day
Do you not have finishers of your own?

[Gamma Emerald]

Aw fuck I'm going to have to pull a UT and set a timer so I can stop this thing

[Gamma Emerald]

Not if I can help it
I'm going to save you

[Gamma Emerald]

40 minute range to pull off the save

[Gamma Emerald]

LOLOLO
KainTepes just walked in while an all-out brawl is GOING DOWN

[Gamma Emerald]

This game is basically "let's repaint DEFCON's nuke mechanic and create a ton of alignment WIFOM based on it"

[Gamma Emerald]

Voting the attacker, not the attackee, breaks the attack

[Gamma Emerald]

so if i want to RESCUE GAMMA i just ahve to vote for the VIG?

I'm saved, if you want to save someone vote Tywin.

[Gamma Emerald]

MODFAIL
NO WONDOR THE QUOTE TAGS KEEP BREAKING

[Gamma Emerald]

HOOD???

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: RAW

TB's "saved from lynch" comment is a little odd.

[Gamma Emerald]

wait
I'm going to be p much gone from Friday afternoon to Sunday/Monday

I may not be able to break it

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Tywain/Maria/Zef are town idc about anyone else

Vote Tywin to save Maria if you really think she is town

[Gamma Emerald]

What does the armbar do to Maria?

It establishes a 48 hour timer where if Tywin is not voted before the clock runs out, she is autolynched

[Gamma Emerald]

Whyme

[Gamma Emerald]

don't worry
If Titus thinks Grey is scum I'm sure she'll say so.

[Gamma Emerald]

Go read the signups and say what you think after that

[Gamma Emerald]

.....really?

[Gamma Emerald]

I just got an amazing idea, what if we make each of us unable to vote and then pretend we can vote?

That would be hilarious, but dangerous. Scum could whip out a submission move.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma is more of a gut read since I felt he was more aggressive in the last game we were playing and he was town but that's not concrete or anything

Please remember I replaced in and had to get into the zone fast
Now I'm in the starting lineup and am going at a slower pace, partly due to irl, partly due to mr just wanting to take it slow.

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone actively trying to scumhunt in Raw right now is probably scum

Why is that a scummy thing?

[Gamma Emerald]

Stormin' Mormon here

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone played with Wifam before?

yeah
This feels a bit different than last time I played with her

[Gamma Emerald]

Please tell me what is so obv town about Grey

Our mind meld. Deal with it. Every single move he has done, I like. Please tell me why you are conviently scumreading the wagon with votes parked from RVS after Creature announces his townblock and why I shouldn't scumread that? Why you seem to be more pissed that I townread Grey than caring about the reason underneath, as indicated by your snark, then asking why? Why do you insinuate that two slots in lock step and jump to partners, rather than Grey buddying me? Do you have a legitimate interest in sorting me, or just pushing a convienent wagon?

Considering RAW is so short, do you have thoughts there?

Pedit: And now a random attack on Creature and turning on the Grey wagon...

You know he could be buddying you

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma + Maria + Pepto

Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic. And why are you so sure there is 3 scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

So you're fine with Vifam?

For now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Please tell me what is so obv town about Grey

Our mind meld. Deal with it. Every single move he has done, I like. Please tell me why you are conviently scumreading the wagon with votes parked from RVS after Creature announces his townblock and why I shouldn't scumread that? Why you seem to be more pissed that I townread Grey than caring about the reason underneath, as indicated by your snark, then asking why? Why do you insinuate that two slots in lock step and jump to partners, rather than Grey buddying me? Do you have a legitimate interest in sorting me, or just pushing a convienent wagon?

Considering RAW is so short, do you have thoughts there?

Pedit: And now a random attack on Creature and turning on the Grey wagon...

You know he could be buddying you

Gamma + Maria + Pepto

Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic. And why are you so sure there is 3 scum?

Point?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it's one of those whatchamacallits
A mirror tell

[Gamma Emerald]

And yeah Titus is right here: she has answered.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Maria and Titus are def town. The argument was logical on both sides, no scummy pushing I saw. The closest was the repeated questioning by Maria, but it doesn't really seem to indicate scum as much as town that is like "you can do better".

[Gamma Emerald]

Great, well then what are you doing to progress the game forward Gamma? What are your reads?

How can you be townreading MariaR forgetting/ignoring about you?

My reads are still in development, but I agree with Maria that IaI attacked below the belt with the "don't townread her she's good as scum" comment.
I don't see why forgetting I said something is scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

What action?

[Gamma Emerald]

What action?

Her original vote on Grey.

I think she
Saw it
Acted based on it
Forgot about it

[Gamma Emerald]

I see why you are upset at the breaking of submissions

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma + Maria + Pepto

Try again dumbass, look at the VC. This is idiotic. And why are you so sure there is 3 scum?

MariaR listed 3 scum too. Why are you ignoring that slot?

There's a lot of hypocrisy going on here.

He's teamhunting, that's scummy

[Gamma Emerald]

quote it I don't see it

[Gamma Emerald]

quote it I don't see it

Don't see what? Where MariaR listed 3 scum? Last sentence gives 3 lynch targets. Kinda the same thing. It's not 4 and it's not 2, and those three names are all TRs for each other. Does this not look like a team vs team fight? You/MariaR/Vifam TR each other (and broke each other's submissions), while Titus/grey/Creature TR each other and want to form a Town Bloc. Kinda obvious IMO.

The only thing pissing me off is people hold me to a higher standard because I'm "really good at scum" "don't tr Maria cause shes good as scum" wtf is that bs

Creature if you think anything I've done this game is scummy you're out of your mind
your reads don't feel genuine at all and you are pushing on lynch bait after lynch bait target

Let's lynch in Titus/Creature/Grey ty

That's a lynchpool, not a team guess

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you caught up Tywin?

Yes

Why are you concerned with Grey buddying me?

Can't comment. Ongoing game. But reasons

I concur with this concern FYI

[Gamma Emerald]

The manager cannot select someont to send: they can only keep a person and attempt to recuit another.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel good about Titus and Maria, as I've said.

[Gamma Emerald]

The only thing pissing me off is people hold me to a higher standard because I'm "really good at scum" "don't tr Maria cause shes good as scum" wtf is that bs

Creature if you think anything I've done this game is scummy you're out of your mind
your reads don't feel genuine at all and you are pushing on lynch bait after lynch bait target

Let's lynch in Titus/Creature/Grey ty

Lol@calling yourself lynchbait.

Go on.

[Gamma Emerald]

>:|
Why do you feel the need to say that

[Gamma Emerald]

>:|
Why do you feel the need to say that

She's contradicting herself after she blatantly says she did something she herself found cute and funny.

She wasn't using it as a defense

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a slight suspect so I think I'll use a submission move sometime.

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel Gamma is scum trying to look a bit active so he doesn't get called out for inactivity, but he's clearly struggling to get an activity like his town!self does.

My activity is NAI, I've hyperposted as scum before.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: RAW

Nero your posts are unreadable. I find this scummy. The large RP posts feel like he's trying to hide what he is saying.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: RAW

Dodge is a bonafide hypocrite. Lynch him ASAP.

[Gamma Emerald]

f it I don't like this guy's attack on Maria so

Use Crippling Crossface on I am Innocent

[Gamma Emerald]

Also can someone voteblock IaI so he doesn't just free himself

[Gamma Emerald]

Yo KT can you voteblock I am Innocent

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't like his reasoning on Maria
I want better content from him

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, what are your reads again? I know you think Maria and I are t v t...but then what?

IaI and Creature are SRs
Vifam feels like town
idrk about Grey, kinda scummy based on how much he is agreeing with you
Not sure about the rest

[Gamma Emerald]

Yo KT can you voteblock I am Innocent

can you explain what this means?? why do you think I can VOTEBLOCK,,

Look in your role PM. There is an ability that makes it so the person you target cannot vote for 48 hours.
BTW I will likely NOT be here to break it so I leave it to everyone else's judgement whether he deserves salvation.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also can someone voteblock IaI so he doesn't just free himself

Try not to be so obv scum

vote gamma
Frog splash gamma
Lasso gamma
One shot day Vig move on gamma

Sorry for the overkill, just wanted to make a point on how bad this scum butt had to go.

If I die at night my other scum reads are maria and alban

Yeah, you're scum. No attempt at improvement, just OMGUS.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have no motivation to catch up since I'm dead in 8 hours anyway. See you jerks later.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm deciding to actually try this game now. I have realized that I need to put in the effort to save myself.

[Gamma Emerald]

I haven't played with Gamma scum before but this ego/cockiness seems like town gamma

LIES!

[Gamma Emerald]

if we send someone over we gotta kjnow what brand makes the kill tweatetety4esy

Why does town ask this question?
I'm no longer townreading MariaR, but still think IaI is scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'M NOT PUSHING YOU TO BREAK SITE RULES? I'M CALLING YOU SHADY AND YOUR USE OF MOVES IS DUMB

WASTING MY MOVES MAKES ME SCUM? YEAH OKAY!

SHADY SURE IS A NICE VAGUE ACCUSATION!

"Lol fuck it I'ma just use my move durrr"

It's always fun to tell Gamma FU and STFU.

I'll do it tomorrow, too.

Can we trade me or this guy so I don't have to deal with being attacked EVERY DAMN DAY?

[Gamma Emerald]

There should be no fear that I'm going to try drafting the other GM. I want MAIN EVENT PLAYAS on my brand.

BE USEFUL AND ANSWER ME-
I-I mean c-can you please answer me
Pedit: Then you can rot in hell
O-or we c-can maybe look else where? m-maybe pep or g-grey I'm scared t-to look at g-grey cause he's a bully a-and trying to u-use ogi against me

Grey isn't obv town stop it Titus if were sending obv town over send zebrand

Why is Zefriend obvtown to you? His reads seem nowhere near in alignment with yours and you have had little to no interaction with him, plus he is part of the town block?

I like his content.
So what if he's part of this townblock that isn't real. y-you r-really should stop acting like it is b-before something bad happens to you T-Titus I don't w-want you g-getting hurt on me

I legit don't know what to think about this, it feels like I'm reading Saboteur again.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm glad Creature the person who tries to make a townblock barely in the game adding himself in it is telling me my reads are not srs of all people
Gamma's town it's how town gamma plays I'd say Deal. With. It.

I'd just like to state MariaR tried this EXACT SAME ROUTINE as scum in Watch Dogs: call me town so much I want to townread them.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just iso'd IaI and realized why I forgot about him. He's said nothing useful all game long. He's done nothing period until Gamma put him in a submission. Then he used his powers to do it back to Gamma.

This guy isn't town. If he is, he's been playing useless on purpose. It's not KainTepes useless (that's the far extreme), but it's bad. There's very little content in his entire ISO. He doesn't post coherent reads or thoughts on anyone all game except for calling Zief town. He doesn't sort anyone all game, doesn't ask any questions related to others being scum, and he uses his power on Gamma in an OMGUS manner. Why haven't we noticed this previously?

Alban is next.

Thank you for seeing the truth.
Tywin is town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, do you think Maria would make the amount of content she has, as Scum?

The more content one creates, the more chances they have to slip up as scum, right?

My playstyle contradicts that philosophy of wanting to be reserved: I tend to post rather wildly as scum, faking reactions and whatnot. And playstyle is trumped by objective analysis: no town asks what Maria did. If I still had my moves I'd use them on her.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok ISO on Alban is done. These aren't hard when these guys post so little and there's no content in any of it.

Alban has not questioned anyone, sorted anyone, given a stance on anyone (aside from his dislike of Kain early in RVS), talked about town/scum, looked for TRs/SRs, added any thoughts on the state of the game, or done anything at all besides fluff posts. His one and only question came when IaI voted him. He said 'explain' in post 99. I'm not counting his latest post (798) since he's just asking if we all have the same powers and if heel/baby face do the same things. It's not about finding scum.

He went from somewhat active up til post 114, not posting again til 439 (he asked how to access the other thread), and then no further posts until 730. He isn't reading the thread. That's obvious.

So idk here. Alban is also completely useless. IaI at least voted someone and called them scum. Alban hasn't even tried. He isn't even pretending. I can't tell if that means he's coasting scum or just useless and needs to be carried, but I hope he doesn't make Lylo. He isn't even paying attention.... Shit... Half our thread is full of people who don't pay attention to the actual game and would be terribad in lylo. Imagine it with Pepto, Kain, Alban.... FML


I say we lynch one of the useless ones before MariaR or whomever. Gamma I'd still be okay to lynch. I just think that if Kain/Pepto/Alban/etc are town, then we practically lose after one mislynch.

Titus: read that last sentence and tell me what you think. Are you still sure you want to give up active players (even ones I don't tr) like grey to the other thread now?

Me and IaI both scum? In whaf universe does that make sense?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yo KT can you voteblock I am Innocent

can you explain what this means?? why do you think I can VOTEBLOCK,,

Look in your role PM. There is an ability that makes it so the person you target cannot vote for 48 hours.
BTW I will likely NOT be here to break it so I leave it to everyone else's judgement whether he deserves salvation.

HOW did you know i have this ability?? so you know my ROLE!!!

@Grey it is not a LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just GAVE ANOTHER REASON to vote CREATURE,,

It's universal knowledge I think

[Gamma Emerald]

Unfortunately there's no finishing move that stops someone from posting.

Is there?

That makes the mod error from before EVEN MORE FUNNY

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes, I am not involved in the game.

I can't read 10-15 pages of posts every morning I get up.

I cannot keep up with this level of activity.

In any case, something caught my eye while skimming through the pages, which is why I messaged about the roles, powers, etc.

Read the following exchange:

Spoiler:

Yo KT can you voteblock I am Innocent

Yo KT can you voteblock I am Innocent

can you explain what this means?? why do you think I can VOTEBLOCK,,

Yo KT can you voteblock I am Innocent

can you explain what this means?? why do you think I can VOTEBLOCK,,

Look in your role PM. There is an ability that makes it so the person you target cannot vote for 48 hours.
BTW I will likely NOT be here to break it so I leave it to everyone else's judgement whether he deserves salvation.

1. How does Gamma know that voteblock exists? It's not AI is scum and town have the same set of basic powers. But if scum don't have basic powers like chokeslam, Gamma wouldn't know about it. And if Gamma knows about it, he town-leans. The only setback to this line of argument is that why is he asking Kain to use his powers? If he has already used his for this day, fine (but I don't see that in his ISO). If he doesn't have the ability, how does he know that voteblocking exists? If he is a scum, he wouldn't declare something that he doesn't possess. I think Gamma looks like a babyface right now with different abilities. Another thing about Gamma

2. Why does Kain not understand what is voteblock? It looked as if he genuinely didn't know (or unless this is one of his usual hyperboles). That means either he has different powers as a townie or coz he is a scum. I am assuming these basic powers are given to everyone, regardless of whether townie or scum. Which means Kain probably has a different set of powers, and Voteblock isn't one of those. Which probably means he is a townie. In case scum don't have these basic powers, Kain scum-leans.

If someone knows more about differences in powers between townies, or between scum and townies, take this line of logic ahead.

i just find it weird that gamma knew i can voteblock............. i didnt know all town had it,,

also why voteblock IAMINNOCENT??

So he couldn't free himself.

[Gamma Emerald]

so why did you tell me to use power against IAMINNOCENT,, and why did you ask ME and not the others??

I think you were active at the time.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think he used his already before that post

DINDINDING WE HAVE A WINNER

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Raw/A50

I wouldn't mind going over. If Nero goes all Titus is scum/the worst player ever and spams the thread to where nothing can get done, we can just use a finishing move. I would outright suggest maybe me for Nero then but I recall some townie voices objecting to Nero.

I would want Tywin over here IMO. Twyin has concerns about me being agency captured by Grey. Separating me and Grey would be the best way to resolve those and set up Smackdown for the long haul, assuming none of us get killed.

I never really considered the scumteams not knowing each other but it makes sense. Luckily, I hadn't done much in the way of cross thread associatives. I just think it equally makes sense that if the GM pushed to draft lurkers, we'd have a red flag situation that the GM wouldn't live through. I wouldn't call you an IC. I am a stickler for such labels. 1 town and one scum makes a lot, if there were scum at all makes sense. Both initial GMs being scum would make the game impossible.

I feel relatively confident you will make the right decision. I think scum might know each other and have chat because all my scumreads are like NO TALK and all the good guys want to communicate and stick together.

What do you think of Vifam, Dodge and Kain Tepes?.

@Massive, he has a pending finishing move on him. What do you think of A50s comments that I should treat you like an IC?

What does agency captured mean?

[Gamma Emerald]

f it I don't like this guy's attack on Maria so

Use Crippling Crossface on I am Innocent

Oh. Lol!

I'm not stopping it. Gamma looks more town for doing it too IMO. Pretty funny.

Whose lynch gives us the most info? I'd argue MariaR gives the most. Gamma gives more info on Vifam, but not as much as MariaR does. I've repeated the Grey/Titus buddying concerned me, but I haven't mentioned the MariaR/Vifam buddying. That concerns me as well, and when I asked repeatedly why the other is town, I've been met with silence and ignored.

So I'm going with MariaR purely for the info. Nobody completely stands out as scummy to me, but Gamma is up there. I feel like I scum read gamma in every game I play with him though, so idk where to go with that. So MariaR/Gamma are my choices, but Maria seems the best one for now.

Thoughts? Gamma or Maria?

?????
Also, I have no finished games with this guy.

[Gamma Emerald]

can someone vote titus so i can be able to finish my catchup

[Gamma Emerald]

If Creature isn't getting lynched I can settle for this
VOTE: Kain
I'd vote Grey but if he legit pulled Ogi just to win a game that's really sad

FAKE
CAN I BE FREED SO I CAN MOVE MY VOTE TO SCUM

[Gamma Emerald]

I already am no one else wants to she's scum honestly

Do it again

[Gamma Emerald]

I AM BUSSING BOTH OF MY PARTNERS SO HARD KAIN YOU HAVE NO IDEA

THAT is obv not a teamguess.

[Gamma Emerald]

Look through IaI's Iso and please show me anything he has done that is towny
I do not see it not one
All I see is "I agree or I think so aswell!"
And then the low blow comment of don't tr Maria cause she's good as scum lololol

You seem more willing to listen to me then before strange not AI just strange

Post 80 makes me think it would be bad to lynch IAI btw.

quote that post

[Gamma Emerald]

nt

Wait did I? huh don't remember ever trying to make a town block

Thanks for butchering the quote, you obv don't want to be seen for the scum you are

[Gamma Emerald]

oh wait gamma's dying?
ehhh
I think Gamma/Iai are on dif sides and I think IaI is scum so I really wanna break this up but I'm not confident enough in the read of town gamma to want to break it
oh well! Bye gamma

>I TR Gamma
>Oh shit he's going to be gone
>I think he isn't aligned with IaI
>I think IaI is scum
>ehhh those reads aren't

super strong

...
>Sayonara townread
IaI and MariaR def teamed.

[Gamma Emerald]

Clothesline from Hell: Gamma Emerald
Abdominal Stretch: Gamma Emerald

Merry Christmas everyone.

The abdominal stretch does nothing.
The clothesline from he'll made gamma unable to post for 48 hours from the time of titus post.

Unable to

post

?? Cool.

I hate you. I just simply hate you.

Spoiler: RAW

Take this fucker away.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma: I never wanted to post anyway.

My actual response: Welp I'm p much dead but since I want to win and not be a fucking baby when lynched, I'm gonna try.

[Gamma Emerald]

Clothesline from Hell: Gamma Emerald
Abdominal Stretch: Gamma Emerald

Merry Christmas everyone.

Merry Christmas! Very good choice here. Approved.

Yeah, NOT townreading Tywin.

[Gamma Emerald]

That has only worked in one game but it's poor design not to give a fake imo.

Last Kuroi game I played, he gave fakeclaims.

[Gamma Emerald]

Caught up
Maria/IaI scum
Vifam, KT town

[Gamma Emerald]

OK
Once midnight rolls around:

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not lynching anyone other than MariaR/IaI if I can help it

[Gamma Emerald]

gm = general manager

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma I was fine with letting you die even if you weren't my first choice I should say sorry but I'm not.
I'll vote Creature if you're up for it!

IaI or die

[Gamma Emerald]

I'M A LURKER????
WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'M A LURKER????
WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THAT?

You haven't posted substantively in awhile. No vla announcement.

I told the mod.

[Gamma Emerald]

I prefer to chainmail my V/LA announcements to my mods rather than C/P it from game thread to game thread to save time.

[Gamma Emerald]

I told the mod Wednesday.

[Gamma Emerald]

oh wait gamma's dying?
ehhh
I think Gamma/Iai are on dif sides and I think IaI is scum so I really wanna break this up but I'm not confident enough in the read of town gamma to want to break it
oh well! Bye gamma

>I TR Gamma
>Oh shit he's going to be gone
>I think he isn't aligned with IaI
>I think IaI is scum
>ehhh those reads aren't

super strong

...
>Sayonara townread
IaI and MariaR def teamed.

I concluded MariaR/Gamma teamed, but if I squint I can see your angle.

SERIOUSLY? AFTER SHE STUCK HER NECK OUT LAST TIME?

[Gamma Emerald]

I can't tell if the sub stops if you vote or lynch...let's test it!
VOTE: Grey

and the surrounding posts

[Gamma Emerald]

I can't tell if the sub stops if you vote or lynch...let's test it!
VOTE: Grey

and the surrounding posts

I already cased those but i do not see how iai is scum.

I would look more at Vifam.

she townslipped

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: MariaR
its hapenning

[Gamma Emerald]

Just how did Vifam townslip to you? I haven't been listening much to them because all they do is garbage.

They stated the town wincon word for word. I'll go back to the PTs for Death Note though, see if it might not be a clear.

[Gamma Emerald]

Kuroi gives fakeclaims: however they do NOT include the town wincon. Vifam is town.

[Gamma Emerald]

You'd know that how? You've seen a Kuroi fake claim before?

What post are you referencing?

I went back to the main scum PT in Death Note, and Wisdom quoted his role PM there. No mention of a town wincon in the fakeclaim.
I'll quote the post.

[Gamma Emerald]

Assuming arguendo that Vifam posted our wincon and your lack of fakes is accurate, that makes me, Creature and Vifam all lock town. Seems too easy.

Why you and Creature?

[Gamma Emerald]

We also need to include to first person to verify Vifam as town as town
glod that looks horrible when typed

[Gamma Emerald]

My role PM says I win when the entire heel threat is eliminated from the brand

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah i am BABY FACE also FACE, also townie,, and i win when ENTIRE HEEL THREAT eliminated from BRAND,, but there is nothing about OUTNUMBER THE FACES,, what do you mean????????

So, KT is conftown now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Assuming arguendo that Vifam posted our wincon and your lack of fakes is accurate, that makes me, Creature and Vifam all lock town. Seems too easy.

Why you and Creature?

Creature tested to see if I knew town flavor in RVS without having PM quote. I answered indirectly.

Could you quote this exchange btw

[Gamma Emerald]

My role PM says I win when the entire heel threat is eliminated from the brand

yeah i am BABY FACE also FACE, also townie,, and i win when ENTIRE HEEL THREAT eliminated from BRAND,, but there is nothing about OUTNUMBER THE FACES,, what do you mean????????

So, KT is conftown now.

These two are about 1000 posts after the inital discussion. They likely got the information from the mod.

What do you think of Vifam's play?

Are you calling them scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Vifam keeps going "uuuuhh" when someone makes a hard accusation on her
it's pretty annoying
realtalk though: I don't really know what to think of Vifam beyond the townslip.

[Gamma Emerald]

I highly doubt the mod would be that wild in their mod-meta where they just give scum the wincon they need to fakeclaim.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like you know Vifam's play is garbage.

You kniw that quoting role pm to confirm alignment = modkill.

So, you know that it's not a townslip. The only other possibility is the mod gave scum a fakeclaim with that exact information.

I didn't copy and paste it or anything I literally just went to my PM folder and typed it out

[Gamma Emerald]

You may not quote private moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.

It's illegal the moment anyone tries to argue alignment from quoting ffs this isn't anyone's first game

but she didn't quote it. Quoting refers to things like snapshotting your PM and putting THAT in, not stating your wincon word for word. Sure it gives a confirmation that's irrefutable (mostly), but it's not like she MEANT to do so. Quoting implies INTENT.

[Gamma Emerald]

I Am Innocent - Titus - -Grey- - Tywin Lannister - Vifam - Creature

This should be a good townblock.

I agree with all but Vifam. Vifam must scumhunt before I will ever townread them, especially after trying to coast on a fake claim. Plus if Gamma is scum, then Vifam is likely a partner since Gamma refused to read their play and tried to create a townslip for his buddy.

VOTE: Gamma

Gamma/MariaR/Vifam

I have read Vifam's play: I can't make much of it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I no longer have qualms about this:

VOTE: GammaEmerald

Reasons:

-Nobody scumreads Grey (who is obviously scum [and yes I know I still haven't typed up my case on him, but I have one] and getting a free pass due to a hard defense by Titus for illogical reasons) and is willing to pursue his lynch
(That last sentence was a doozy but if you follow the laws of parentheses you'll be fine)
-Grey saved Gamma for inexplicable reasons. It's part of my case, but why would someone who shamelessly uses his finishers suddenly jump in to stop another finisher that had nothing to do with him? Like Titus said, it's completely out of left field. The only thing that makes sense is that Grey and Gamma are scum partners.
-Gamma's catch-up provided no substantial content, just a bunch of one-liners and fluff.
-

The biggest reason though, is because Gamma stormed into action to try and gain town-standing off of the whole Vifam "slip" thing despite not having any convictions about these matters before. It reads as an attempt to rush to a so-called "confirmed" townie's defense and align himself in the same vein.

It's bullshit.

You know I didn't HAVE TO catch up as scum: as someone else said, talking more gives associations. It's a bad idea to talk more as scum if you are doomed.

[Gamma Emerald]

@____@

This instance is different from the others, and the circumstances suggest it comes from scum being unable to defend themself.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wifom

Instantly discrediting me, I see.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I have my guess for the scumteam (if it is 3): Maria, IaI, Tywin.
J PERSONALLY want to lynch the first two and then analyze the two lynches. This requires me to live.
I think claiming now is a good idea. Besides my finishers, I have the ability to change the roster in some way. If I believe my lynch is inevitable, I will use this power. I believe it has tbe power to cause much chaos, so I'd prefer not to use it, but I will use it if I deem it necessary.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: RAW

LUV seems like town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: RAW - Narna

Thanks for endorsing a fininser on me while I was MIA
scumbag

[Gamma Emerald]

Great, I'm scumread by BOTH brands.

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: RAW

The fact Nero does his thing for edits pisses me off

[Gamma Emerald]

What happens if the day ends before a submission timer runs out?

[Gamma Emerald]

We need to lynch Maria NOW. If we don't she gets drafted.

[Gamma Emerald]

That's not SPECIFICALLY accurate to my question, but oooooookay

[Gamma Emerald]

We need to lynch Maria NOW. If we don't she gets drafted.

Didn't you just saw you could change things up?

I don't know what it does specifically.

[Gamma Emerald]

We need to lynch Maria NOW. If we don't she gets drafted.

Didn't you just saw you could change things up?

I don't know what it does specifically.

So you're claiming an ability that you don't know what it does? At all?

I asked the mod and have some theories. Beyond that, no clue. And it's not guaranteed to be completely under my control.

[Gamma Emerald]

My primary theory is it rerolls the list of players in Smackdown and RAW.

[Gamma Emerald]

That can't be true because at one point scum could just outright win

Not quite: it CAN give scum a victory, but can also not.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean, the mod wouldn't clarify much about it so idunno
If you guys could compile all your concerns I can ask him about them.

[Gamma Emerald]

My primary theory is it rerolls the list of players in Smackdown and RAW.

VOTE: gamma

ohfuckyou

[Gamma Emerald]

To be more through, that power is so obviously ridiculous as to basically be a scumclaim in my eyes. It's just a last ditch effort to save yourself by claiming something powerful/dangerous, but it's so out there as to be totally transparent.

Seriously? I KNOW my power is so disruptive it belongs in scum's hands more. WHY THE FUCK WOULD I CLAIM IT? We KNOW Kuroi provides fakeclaims. I would have had SOMETHING better to claim.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma

I would expect town!Gamma to be willing to die to avoid having a dangerous role hurt town, not threaten to use a dangerous role if he was lynched.

Not when I believe my reads as much as I do.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sending my clarification PM: what should I ask?

[Gamma Emerald]

I do rrealize I was in the wrong to lord my power over everyone like that. I pretty much threw a tantrum at my incoming lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm thinking of asking whether I control my power and whether it changes the playerlists. Also, balance.

[Gamma Emerald]

sent it

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Narna

Last game I played with Vifam I had an executioner power I used to help deadline lynch D1.

[Gamma Emerald]

Note I did NOT AT ALL try to take cred for verifying: KT was the person I credited.
Also, my reads are sorta in flux beyond MariaR and IaI, so I don't want to trip over myself as I've done sometimes in the past.

[Gamma Emerald]

did you just fucking lynch a mason in endgame
dumbases