In Memory

[Deimos27]

Hello, excited to be playing with you all!

SS wagon grew really large really quick. Maybe there was some scum support there?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
I'll roll with this for the time being.

[Deimos27]

Still don't understand the SS wagon. It's like everyone is voting him for this:

Titus has been scum in a lot of games I've played with her. Not a bad PL

Which seems like obvious RVS talk.

[Deimos27]

Ah, I thought I'd been replaced already. But, alas! I'm in time.

Anyway, I was on vacation. I asked my IRL friend (Clemency) to msg the mod but I guess he didn't get the memo?
I see we've achieved a lynch. Would anyone like to grant me a quick TL;DR?

[Deimos27]

Prod received. The following will be my catch up on d1 alongside some analysis and VCA (which I plan to become more complete as the days progress. So far there is little information).
Note that I have not yet completed reading d2 either.
I will be cutting this post in half in order to increase readability and ease of replying.

Votecount 1.06:

Original SS wagon. Arguably RVS.

Shadow_Step

(6): The DEO, Creature, Creeps20, drealmerz7, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): Clemency, Shadow_Step,
The DEO (1): KuroiXHF
Creature (1): RachMarie

Votecount 1.11:

RM enters voting with an accusation on Postie for WK'ing SS.

Shadow_Step

(5): The DEO, Creature, Creeps20, drealmerz7, Klingoncelt
Postie (3): Gamma Emerald, RachMarie
Gamma Emerald (2): Clemency,

Deimos27

drealmersz7 (2): Vedith, Shadow_Step

In my experiences, the person being Wked is not always scum, but the person doing it usually IS, that is why I am voting for Postie.

That is definitely not saying that I think SS is town. Still have not pegged him yet.

Hmm...

Votecount 1.15:

Wagon cools off completely

Shadow_Step

(4): The DEO, Creature, Creeps20, drealmerz7
RachMarie (3): KuroiXHF, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): Clemency,

Deimos27

drealmersz7 (2): Vedith, Shadow_Step
Postie (1): RachMarie
Vedith (1): LycanFire

Spoiler: Creeps Reread

Votecount 1.15:

Shadow_Step: High scumread. Like I have said before I hate policy lynching complete and utterly
RachMarie : Null
Gamma Emerald : Slight scum read. Can't remember why but I do have a slight scum read on them.
drealmersz7 : Null.
Postie (1): Slight town (Not much though)
Vedith (1): I think he posted once. Not much here
The DEO (0): Null
Creature (0): Slight scumread for the 'sunburn' shenanigans and overall inactiveness
Clemency (0): I don't think he has posted. Or I missed him
ɀefiend (0): See clemency
Klingoncelt (0): See clemency
Deimos27 (0): Null
LycanFire (0): Very slight scum. I feel like the ridicoulous role thing he did might be a silent nod to memory loss probably to compensate for later 'memory losses'
Creeps20 (0): Me!
KuroiXHF (0): slight town.



With 15 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2016-12-18 13:00:00)

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That reads list feels like it's half formed. I'd think you'd have a townread on DEO based on your Shadow read.

That reads list feels like it's half formed. I'd think you'd have a townread on DEO based on your Shadow read.

Trust me. Most of the time I do the ridicoulous constantly

This is just

bad

in my opinion. Note Gamma's and Postie's reactions.

Creature (0): Slight scumread for the 'sunburn' shenanigans

Why?

LycanFire (0): Very slight scum. I feel like the ridicoulous role thing he did might be a silent nod to memory loss probably to compensate for later 'memory losses'

This is mildly amusing when you think about what's actually being suggested here.

Lynch Shadow. He scum claimed hard when he tried to policy lynch me.

Can you even point to anything that suggests he was being serious? Because if not then why would we do this.

VOTE: Postie

I Don't like voting town reads but I see a scum slip.

Answering KuroiXHF's(?) question now.

Wot? You read him as town, but you vote him. Not only that, the vote is for a non-existent scumslip.

Similarily Creature's vote is odd.

Oh right, w is miles away from h.

VOTE: Postie

Votecount 1.18:

RachMarie (3): KuroiXHF, Gamma Emerald
Postie (3): RachMarie, Creature, Creeps20

Shadow_Step

(2): The DEO, drealmerz7
Gamma Emerald (2): Clemency,

Deimos27

drealmersz7 (2): Vedith, Shadow_Step
Vedith (1): LycanFire

Spoiler: Drealmerz is back!

fucking hell ppls -

okay so I have been going back over the game as I catch-up and, I am on PAGE 10, and I wonder why we haven't lynched S_S yet, because, holy fuck, let me take you through AGAIN (and also try and find where the focus on him got lost because his is SO scum) :

S_S first post, a clear RVS vote:

VOTE: Rach

Begin!

then he quickly

VOTE: DEO

Most fake reaction ever

This is a serious vote for something he clearly (and reiterates later) thinks is fake-scum.

THEN, kuroi makes what seems to be an RVS vote:

VOTE: titus

Because I obviously have a death wish.

and S_S replies to THAT with:

Titus has been scum in a lot of games I've played with her. Not a bad PL

this is totally one of those slight-joking but hey if anyone wants to forward the idea I'm all for it scummy posts that scum make, imo, and DEO votes him for it (even though it is a vote in response to a comment about the PL, it's still a valid vote based on the progress and position)

Titus has been scum in a lot of games I've played with her. Not a bad PL

POLICY LYNCH!

POLICY LYNCHES ARE ALWAYS SCUM SIDED!!

VOTE: Shadow Step

You better hope you have a good claim ready.

someone else agrees that it is a scummy comment, despite any "sarcasm" he can write it off as, it's still a very scummy post, and it is pings multiple people

More votes on DEO. Awful omgus on me to follow up with that fake reaction.

S_S is gone for a pretty good chunk of the thread and comes back with this ^ - first, she voted you for your scummy post, not in OMGUS to your vote on her - and it soo was not a fake reaction, multiple people read it THAT way, yet you persist, and I am being patient waiting for you to be towny and you just kind of "fuck you" to everyone, not contributing to anything that has gone on in the thread since or expanding on anything about DEO other than repeating yourself - so I vote S_S, having been mostly an observer through the whole thing

and gamma votes you similarly:

No I'm pretty sure that reaction was real
I don't like Shadow's response to DEO's vote
In fact the DEO vote itself was pretty bad
VOTE: Shadow_Step

Scum ^

that's your response to the adding pressure about your scummy before, as seen by multiple people already?

Nah, I wanted to PL Titus because she rolls scum a lot. Which was a joke. People here don't have a sense of humour.

but your vote is for the reaction and you do want to vote/lynch her

and then you try to change the subject around when asked about your scummy "joke" post (and you make it all dramatic like "you guys don't even have a sense of humor!" oh please, that's totally a scum-ploy!), and when it doesn't go your way, you switch your vote to gamma like "oh whatever that's not going anywhere let's try THIS!"

Anyway

Gamma is the scum on my wagon.
Look at his reasoning to vote me. It is something I posted on page 1 and he has been postin since then. But he only decides to vote me when there are lot of votes on me already.

VOTE: Gamma

I thought you said DEO was scum on your wagon (scum-omgus vote in your view ) cause super-fake noway town reacts that way reaction? just dropping that now, eh? for a weak-ass case on GE?

you posted content on pg. 1 that was voteworthy, the fact that it was on page 1 doesn't mean ANYTHING, that's just a fallacy argument

"that touchdown doesn't count it was scored in the first 20 seconds of the game!" uhhh, no

Which you only realised after the huge wagon on me? Yeah opportunustic scum.

so only ppl who vote on wagons of a certain size are scum?

no, he voted almost the same time I did and it was upon watching you be scummy over and over and over, waiting until enough built to a point of comfortable voting

again, you try to devalue things by fallible arguments

Can we fucking Lynch gamma?

still wanting to lynch him, and you are now sure he is a DV, but, that doesn't last long...

If I wanted to PL you I would have voted you. You can't be that dense.

but...you did vote her? not for the PL, but, it's like you're twisting around what happened at this point, so what you switched to gamma for a short bit to see if anyone would go there with you/you could shake attention from yourself

I'm not even trying? Are you serious?
Did you even bother to read my case on Gamma?
And a person who's game is just to death tunnel on anyone till they are lynched has no right to talk about anyone else.

another scummy post

death tunnel?! they're engaging with other shit and doing things, you're death tunneled, not doing anything but focused on 1 and then a 2nd person when the 1st doesn't take, except you can't resist to try another push and

Guess I should take initiative.

Yeah, vote Deo

VOTE: Deo

Dreal is posting VERY quiet compared to his normal town games. This is probably scum

pingpingping

you don't know anything about my games!! considering I don't have HAVE a 'normal game', as

either

alignment, and even if I did, you certainly wouldn't know it - ppl who have played 15 games with me don't know what a normal game for me is~!! yeeeesh

I'm okay with this too actually. You have good reads day 1.
VOTE: d7

that's a terrible read and if you

are

town (hah!), youshouldn't be guided by it, buuut you're not town and maybe that is just a scumbuddy you're trying to jump with

I've explained it already.
I have no idea how town reacts to a hated claim like- "can we make you unhated?"
It's like role fishing + awkward scum who doesn't know how to react.

Oh but selling a "policy lynch" on me after that point was a joke right?
Nah, you meant it. Then you got caught in a meta tell. Rather than asking me to prove it, you cried joke.

I can grow an extra person, so him being unhateable isn't ridiculous. It's also not a rolefish in the binary.

yepyep this ^

Titus is scared of me because I lynched her in green day micro based of almost nothing so wants me gone.

oh please (okay after reading further of course I see she calls you on this BS)

and then you POST THIS:

Postie, you have an AtE weakness.

No, I don't. I can just tell the difference between scum frustration and town frustration. This is town frustration.

It isn't Postie. Check Suikoden Mafia. Blackest Magic reacted in the same way. Klingon was in that game btw.

Lmao, Seriously?
This is so reachy, its pathetic. Its worse than scraping the barrel.
We are not the same people.

BAHAHAHA! it's like you're projecting!!

Your ego can't digest it and you're salty it's okay.

omg he's so desperate scum, he should be lynched by now!!

Titus is scared of me because I lynched her in green day micro based of almost nothing so wants me gone.

LOL this logic is p terrible "I dunked this dude and now they are upset at me" when they have real reasons for voting you

What real reason? I've already said it was a joke. If I had to PL her I would have voted her.

and AGAIN you twist

YOU DID/ARE voting her (at this time pretty sure), but it's not about the PL, and yet you use this as a way to devalue votes on you because you're not voting for her for that, OMG SCUMMMMMM!!!!

he's so desperate and in deep he's flailing obvious scum, and then!

@Vedith what do you think about KC?

"omg scum-buddy throw me a life-line!!"

okay still don't know why he's not just l-1 and claiming at this point, but, will read on with further thorough catchup!!!

Ooh, drealmerz is back with a wall. And not changing his vanity vote off of a stale wagon. For reasons?

[Deimos27]

Shadow is a derp, we agree, now lets vote Creeps.

Good vote from Vedith. I would've endorsed this had I not been absent.

Spoiler: Drealmerz hardtunnel

did you read this scum?

who the fuck are you talking to about READING THE FUCKING THREAD??!?! talk to yourself!!! FUCK, if you're town, vote yourself, because this is the shittiest townplay I've ever seen

there's no fucking way you're town

oh right, vedith, he's your scumbuddy, that's right

Shadow is a derp, we agree, now lets vote Creeps.

no he just expects to get away with this shit because it's so fucking atrocious

don't let him

if he is town (yeah fucking right), he's the worst anti-town player I've ever fucking seen and it is pro-town to lynch him NOW NOW NOW, but no, HE'S SCUM

More convenient ignorance ^^^^^^^^^

THAT'S YOU!!! OMFG

Shadow is a derp, we agree, now lets vote Creeps.

Creeps is lynch bait, we need to to lynch d7

wow, man, I put up the PRETTY MUCH AIR TIGHT CASE on you, and you want me dead

that's telling

VOTE THIS SCUMFUCK

Already disproved that lie. Anyone reading the first two pages knows that's a lie. I identified myself post one.

I didn't read that.

##Fail

how convenient!!!

this is some of the scummiest shit!!! you can't expect to get away with it?!!

Like this is so spewy. Does anyone know if this is how drealmz usually plays? Especially now that we've seen a SS (STK) lynch, IGMEOU. It ought to be noted that in my first game I saw a similarily heated exchange between two players that ended up being TvT.

VOTE: Shadow_Step

VOTE: Shadow

I changed my mind. I'll vote now.

VOTE: Shadow_Step

Wagon rebuilds

Votecount 1.27:

Shadow_Step

(7): drealmerz7, Creeps20, The DEO, Gamma Emerald, Creature, Klingoncelt
drealmersz7 (2): Shadow_Step, Vedith
Postie (1): RachMarie
Creature (1): KuroiXHF
Vedith (1): LycanFire

Wagon magically dissipates:

Votecount 1.30:

KillTheStory

(4): drealmerz7, Creeps20, The DEO, Creature
drealmersz7 (2): KillTheStory, Vedith
Postie (1): RachMarie
Creature (1): KuroiXHF
Vedith (1): LycanFire

KTS

you need to focus on THIS game, you replaced into a slot lots of peeps are seeing as scummy. You can play video games later.

Not buying the claim either seems fishy to me.

VOTE: KTS

And RM jumps right in? Seems like a scum move to me. If I recall she's been town (or at least null)reading SS most of the game. Her reasoning for this vote is very weak.

KillTheStory

(5): drealmerz7, Creeps20, The DEO, RachMarie, Creature

Creature playing a bit wishy-washy today I feel.

drealmersz7 (1): Vedith
Creature (1): KuroiXHF
Vedith (1): LycanFire
KuroiXHF (1): KillTheStory

Lycan is playing unbelievably weird. He had next to no substance d1, with an unexplained vote on KTS at the end of the day. Not exactly pro-town.

Final Cote Count:

Votecount 1.37:

KillTheStory

(9): drealmerz7, The DEO, RachMarie, Creature, Klingoncelt, LycanFire, Creeps20, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): Clemency,

Deimos27

drealmersz7 (1): Vedith
Creature (1): KuroiXHF
KuroiXHF (1): KillTheStory


In summary,
RM and Creeps I find scummy.*
Lycan, Drealmerz, DEO I find leaning scum.*
Gamma, Creature, Kuroi and Klingon are null. (Also zefield + Clem but they haven't been posting)
Vedith is leaning town.
Postie is town.

*Lynch order from left to right.

Now for d2...

[Deimos27]

My first time doing the VCA thing. Learned it from reading an mhsmith IC post in which (I think) he says that he likes to turn himself green. So idk.

[Deimos27]

Anyway, that's gonna be it from me for today. Reading and analysing those 35 pages was super tiring already, so d2 can wait till tomorrow.

[Deimos27]

Alright, I'm tired of this game, so here's the plan.
Lynch scum ASAP so the game will end ASAP.

Anyone opposed to me hammering RM?

[Deimos27]

Okay,
I was misled by your statement "Infinite V/LA".

[Deimos27]

I'm still confused how Lycan knew to reference pants, even if he did figure out the second head was MathBlade.

i don't know your meta beyond the fact that your slot has pushed two mislynches

Also I didn't quite understand why my reads were bad because RM was my top choice for scum.
For one thing, as I mentioned in my original post, a VCA provides little information at only day two and without a scum flip imo. A large reason of why I marked down those vote counts is because I felt they could be important parts of the day that I can copy out for VC's on future days.

Also "your reads are bad and you should feel bad" is unnecessarily rude. I barely posted at all during d1 so it would be less than fair for me to not provide any of my thoughts as to what happened, which I did as I read.

Most likely is Kling or RM though.

-- Math

JaeReed light scumread is because of Lycanfire'S reaction

Quit being stupid.

I have no way of contacting Lycan.

Which town obviously can't know.

Explain how Lycanfire knew about my pants without having played with me.

-- MathBlade

I have no idea.

Who all in this game has? Make a list, it will be useful.

What is the most reasonable answer here?

Lycanfire makes a meta reference about me despite never having played with me as Town they just randomly look up my meta know pants is a thing and then say it?

Or one of Rach Marie or Gamma are scum. Which is more likely to you?

-- Math

Both?

I'll read through the ISOs now. This will take a couple minutes.

Saying "Both?" with a question mark implies you have zero confidence in what you're saying, (irl this type of vocal intonation placed at the end of an answer causing it to sound more like a question, is also a queue that the speaker has zero confidence in what they are saying*).

Assuming you've ISO'd them by now, what is your conclusion?

*Which

can

be a sign of lying but is obviously not reliable because there can be other reasons to lack confidence.

DEO, Postie and Vedith can be town.
I mistrust RM and Lycan.
Klingon is a point of interest.

I think Creeps is in need of a prod.