I kinda doubt that seems like too much.In post 9375, farside22 wrote:Based on numbers started and 3p with the gems I think 3 scum left.
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Yea maybe you're right. You've kinda created this situation where, if you're town or win with town that your lynch is simultaneously very justified and tells us absolutely nothing. Nice work.In post 9375, farside22 wrote:You asked about rr and why he would push for just me, why not, I'm easy to lynch, he can blame Titus for it after with all her thoughts on me.
My point is are you that valuable a lynch for groupscum at this point to strongarm it to the extent they have?
Guess there's not MUCH else exciting going on and lolwhynot and also shrug.
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Well there wasn't a lot of discourse before the day actually started. But I brought up that titus would be a good candidate and he sorta shrugged it off and changed the direction of the conversation to things like "why did you want to ally" and flavor. Even after I tried to talk about it twice. I didn't tell him explicitly to vote titus because I didn't have time + didn't realize how big a deal the votes were. But thinking back it's strange that he didn't vote at all considering what we talked about.
Then there's some stuff about sky being conftown for getting an alliance with steven. And he says he thinks yume and mastin are confirmed but not quite. Like, yume and mastin were lower on his POE then skybird. Doesn't make a whole lotta sense.
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Bored so I'm gonna read from daystart like two Days ago and just post stuff. And then probably make a vote. Sorry again for being almost completely not here for a minute holy fuck this game is hard to parse.
What do you mean by this?MagnaofIllusion wrote:I'll patiently wait for whatever answer you might produce but I'll be clear - I don't give a rats ass if you like how the Gems are using the ability to stall immediate death for certain players.
If we're dealing with something like that. It's probs random. Would they have any associations with threats to earth?mastin2 wrote:When I said traitor, I didn't mean role. I meant, mole. Double-agent. Groupscum with a fakeclaim within the group. Whatever you want to call it.
I'll be so dissapointed if TWIE and DGB rolled scum together in this game and did some blatantly bad idea shit like that.farside22 wrote:Because currently the desire to lynch twie is based on the hypothetically dgb got info from twie as scum.
Again all hypothetically and the only one agreeing with this idea is rr.
Also and this is final.
I refuse with every fiber of my being to follow this 3 fucking game day tunnel that is down right getting ridiculous.
I've almost reached the point were I almost want to support my own lynch to be done with this day after fucking day bs attitude that only is far is scum and everyone else is wrong.
I wanna say farside would make this post as scum but it's null because -getting tunneled by titus for days- would make me wanna die as well I'd imagine.
Somebody somewhere said something about you being lock-town on shiro for some reason. Why are you asking this here and what's your read on shiro?Almost50 wrote:Got it. But Shiro is still Town. Yes?
LOL TWIE why did you shoot me?Titus wrote:Let's be frank here. TWIE's claim means shit. You would need an explanation for why and how Grapes survived given he's not a bulletproof. That's directly trying to sell you Farside town, but let's say you followed this line of hogwash TWIE sold to it's conclusion, you would have a totally necessary different scumread.
Why does that make you feel better about them?mastin2 wrote:Yes. Exactly. Still sorting. Not town.
Skybird did not know the crystal gems in all likelihood. (Which actually makes me feel much better about them actually.)
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I'm on page 360ish and it's making me wanna try some VCA because I don't know whether mastin or titus was more on the right track.
Kraska comes to mind from when I skimmed some VCs a while ago but it's iffier because... do sky and kraska both take for the chara push?
I think maybe; if whoever posted the wall-case on it did so because they looked at chara's body of work and a robust wall of words came immediately to mind or something. I could see that honestly.
Just... such a scumpost too in hindsight it wasn't even funny. When you realize how unnecessary all that was to the momentum of the wagon. Grapes is usually all the momentum a wagon needs until I change my mind.
Same thing with their RR read.
Who drops a paragraph on why they think someone's town while they're getting whimsically wagoned up to start the day?
Kraska is SCUM.
So wait he claimed to shoot me and I didn't die? He's probably lying because -- what doc saves me and what vig shoots me?Titus wrote:But for now, pretty sure given no one healed grapes and grapes wasn't BP, that should be all the evidence there.
Shadow did you claim you'd be confirmed town?Xkfyu wrote:
Wait, that's it?In post 8933, Varsoon wrote:Shadow_Step has no other non-factional abilities or Episode Events besides the ability to confirm this information.
That isn't nearly as confirmed as you told me you would be. In fact, that isn't confirmed at all.
You know, why doesn't someone with more free time actually do something like this.Shadow_step wrote:I told you I got the crappiest role lol
I thought this clears me because I'm obviously not responsible for the scum events like Message recieved?
What did we figure out as far as what we can deduce from who actioned so far?
Suppose it doesn't really matter because the scum events have all been factional.
Also question do yuo have no event at all and have we seen someone flip without an event yet?
When did he "reveal skybird's attempt to kill grapes" I'm fuzzy on that part. How did you know chara passively protected me?Xkfyu wrote:Ok I'm going to put an end to this.
Not Chara passively protected Grapes while they were allied. Not Chara also didn't claim to Grapes while they were allied. Therefore, Grapes didn't know he was being protected.
Knowing this, Skybird more than likely really did try to kill Grapes. Therefore, TWIE wouldn't have revealed Skybird's attempt to kill Grapes, giving town yet another confirmed town, if they were scum together.
See this is fucked I don't know anything it's like playing the game with a blindfold on.
Holy fuck that is cool.Reasonably Rational wrote:It seems pretty obvious that the gems are able to chat with people before they die (as evidenced by MoI mentioning that NCs scumread on me has increased), so it seems this information was likely claimed by NC posthumously, in whatever chat the gems have access to. If we're certain there is a scum slot among the gems, then scum learned this whenever NC told the rest of the gems, but there's no reason to think they knew about it any earlier.
So they're sorta like the guardians of earth in a sense or something weird.
Or Varsoon designed a team of scum to troll town in a dark-private-anonymous chamberas they lay dying... I mean. Wouldn't put it past him and that'd be pretty rad. Cool idea for a bastard game or something.
Magna and random or the gems correct? They haven't tried to fuck us yet.
Farside has fucked us but I'm not sure maliciously. I mean it could obviously be construed that way but still.
I'm queasy that she apparently has 5 votes though.
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ERRMMMMMMMMMMMMKAY YEA WHY LIKE I SAW IT ALREADY BUT PLEASE NOVarsoon wrote:SnarkySnowman (LYNCH): mastin2, Creature, McMenno, Farside22
BARFShiro wrote:farside the fuck was that stunt yesterday, you knew he was town in order for you bloody hammer to work.
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How do you know that? And if you were going to know that do you not think fuzzy would have the foresight to avoid that as scum?In post 9140, Reasonably Rational wrote:Fuzzy controlled the lynch event yesterday, and was given the chance to lynch snarky with no accountability. Given that snarky flipped town, there's little reason for scum!fuzzy to not take the opportunity to get a free kill. Since he did not, it is very unlikely that fuzzy is scum, UNLESS one of his teammates was likely to be lynched if fuzzy wasn't around to draw the heat.
What exactly do you mean by the last line about drawing heat?
Why do you understand? What's the town motive there?In post 9133, kraskaesque wrote:She asked me to ally again in the alliance pt. I didnt know she asked Titus to ally in thread ( like I said, I'm really behind on what's going on here). But I assume she wanted to switch after seeing the flip. She's been egging me to vote snarky for a long time, she was pretty convinced he's scum so I understand why she wouldn't want to ally Titus after ending the day prematurely with a town flip
Sometimes you don't care if you think you're voting for scum.In post 9134, Reasonably Rational wrote:Can you explain why she voted the way she did, when it only out 8 votes on snarky and wouldn't have lynched him if he were scum?
Do you think based on farsides conviction to her snarky read (felt like she was all about that for a while) it would make sense for her as town to wanna squash him like a pancake?
There's a fairly good town-case to be made for her based on cakes associatives, though.In post 9140, Reasonably Rational wrote:Farside has not been concluded to not be groupscum; what we have concluded is that IN ORDER for her to be groupscum, DGB had to have coordinated/spoke with a member of her team at some point prior to beachapalooza. There were two opportunities for this: D3, with TWIE, and D2, when Farside and Skybird claimed to be allied with one another (dgb could have allied with either and they could have lied to cover for it, or DGB could have just forced an alliance with one of the other no alliance claimed on D2 and found scum).
And it looks to me like, from what you're saying here, that A LOT of shit needed to go right for her to be groupscum.
Like, would the knowledge of her not being groupscum 100% make you want to hold off on her lynch or do you think she's an SK?
Or she's bad town.In post 9141, Reasonably Rational wrote:My current thought process on this sequence of events is scum!farside knew she was going to be lynched at some point, but had enough points to force through two mislynches. She dumped points to force the fuzzy mislynch and was planning on allying titus, but when stress didn't drop and they still had their -4 stress kill, they decided to kill titus and activate the event in place today, while farside made sure she allied with someone else, so she could make sure to force another mislynch today without being at risk of getting lynched herself, or just force a no lynch today (cause free scum kill), then force a mislynch tomorrow.
Bad post.In post 9143, Shiro wrote:To clarify, are you a survivor? I have no wish to Lynch you If you are and I am pretty sure most of town shares that sentiment but come clean with it if you are
Elaborate.In post 9144, Shadow_step wrote:This sentence is a contradiction in itself, why is Fuzzy town because he saved Snarky. He was lynch bait anyway
I already said he did this because he's scum and wanted the meter to go to -4 ffs
In post 9147, Creature wrote:Why is TWIE living?These feel kinda fake to me.
OH OKAY so it was just an action.In post 9153, Creature wrote:
Strange, my action succeeded.In post 9106, Varsoon wrote:As long as you are allied with a player, their Climax actions will always fail.
During the Season Finale, you may allow a player you allied with before to double their Climax Actions.
When did you originally claim to make that action? Really need to know the exact timeline here.
This feels like a WK tbh. And it doesn't really make sense because farside could win by getting points and shit.In post 9165, kraskaesque wrote:@cerb...and everyone
i could maybe buy the "far is scum after yesterday's vote" train of thought if that voting ability was used on ANY OTHER TOWN but snarky
which isnt what happened. cerb you're saying she is scum who thinks her lynch is inevitable and so decided to make the best of her pm abilities to push thru mislynches before she dies
but i think thats a blatant misrepresentation of the gamestate yesterday. in fact i think everyone in the game was warming up to her, even titus was laying off and redirecting focus elsewhere
that she'd bulldoze over all of this just when it begins to look like her lynch is no longer a thing on the table, i find hard to believe.
not only that, but to bulldoze over people's newfound trust in her, to lynch SNARKY of all people? snarky the inevitable nonsensical mislynch mastin was working hard to make happen? is that really a risk worth taking here? her hypothetical scum team stands more to lose than gain here. you have to admit that
my scum pool is twie, shadow and maybe shiro
i wont even consider a farside wagon until i see these three flip or if farside proves, once again, to be antitown enuff to warrant a PL
Which I keep forgetting about. And frustrates me because we're gonna need to lynch her eventually aren't we goddamn it.
I almost wanna not lynch farside now after this post because you can fucking tell that kraska doesn't gaf if we do.
I also can't tell if this is fearmongering or not.In post 9166, Creature wrote:Even if there's the possibility farside22 can take over the majority of the votes?
Like, Creature you either think farside has a weird wincon or she doesn't. If she does who fucking cares it was a wacky setup we all go home happy cuz we had a good time. Or you think she's groupscum with the ability to quintuple vote. I don't buy this as a reason you actually think is good enough to lynch someone especially in this game.
Shiro can you confirm this?In post 9167, Reasonably Rational wrote:P-Edit: Kraska you're wrong. Titus was pulling gambits yesterday to try and see if specific people would bite. Shiro was in alliance with us and can confirm that Titus said several times during the day to say nothing while she was doing something. What she said in thread yesterday doesn't at all line up with what she said in alliance, especially during the night when it was clear the -4 stress meant she was going to be dead this morning. She made it VERY clear that Farside needed to be gone, and made some other requests which we'll get to when appropriate.
Talk to me about this. :dIn post 9169, Shadow_step wrote:
You still think I'm scum, have you bothered to read anything?In post 9165, kraskaesque wrote:my scum pool is twie, shadow and maybe shiro
i wont even consider a farside wagon until i see these three flip or if farside proves, once again, to be antitown enuff to warrant a PL
No way this slot is town btw
The time was right?In post 9255, Reasonably Rational wrote:If scum believed today was likely to end in a town lynch, why would they activate this event?
-Cerb
Put us on even numbers during the day?
Fuck if I know.
Are you 100% sure about that?In post 9284, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:From what I can tell fro VCA and ISO you and your predecessors are bad town
I would have believed "tried to throw off scum" or something like that.In post 9293, Randomnamechange wrote: Because I'm an idiot who got replacements the worng way round.
@MoI, sorry about flaking the chat, will try to get back in there
At this point we might as well claim it. Crystal Gems are masons. We know each others role PMs.
There's an idea.In post 9298, Creature wrote:We could also force farside22 to seventuple vote TWIE.
Since when do you believe in policy lynches?In post 9306, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:@ far
Iam not so mad you power hammer Snaky asit could just of been a mistake ....and you thought you were killing scum. What makes you super anti town was you did it and told no one you were going to do it. You gave people zero chance to form alliances and get ready for the climax phase. Part of me wants to policy lynch you so bad at this point
At Kras
Shiro is town in my opinion.....TWIE and Shadow Step could be scum,
Wow you literally haven't voted at all?In post 9314, TheWayItEnds wrote:vote: farside
i hate you guys for making me break my not casting a vote streak
This is why we always snipe the not voting seats.
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Then vote twie.In post 9988, farside22 wrote:I'd love a Shiro lynch and see that flip scum after everything from day 2, but after snarky I'm twice shy about any confidence in it.
I was wrong on snarky too for a while he's tough to read wouldn't beat yourself up about it.
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I didn't say hammer him.farside22 wrote:I'm not hammer voting anyone till alliances are set and getting my question responded to from kraska.
This doesn't sound like a bad idea actually.Reasonably Rational wrote:Okay for serious Farside. I can (and have) pointed out potential scum motivation in your actions. Anyone can say they are town. If you really want to keep having the discussion, then we should just ally and sniff each other's asses in a PT where we doing clutter up the game thread with this shit any more. If nothing else, it will save everyone else from having to deal with it, and if you areactuallytown (I will admit that it's in the possibility space), you might even find a way to convince us. I mean ... I've had a stronger case against someone before and they flipped town (Titus in Space Dandy 2) ... so I'm willing to at least give you enough benefit of the doubt to listen and re-evaluate my thinking.
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Could wagon shiro.In post 10030, Shiro wrote:I could vote creature tbh. I had q scumread there since day 2
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I just re-iso'd creature. The front end gave me some doubt (less town than my memory served me). But that's probably a combination of creature being a person that you really can't read by iso-ing and moreso -- read him by what he's doing in the moment that he's around and posting. A lot of his processes towards the back end feel off the cuff and resemble real thought. The frustration where applicable seems genuine, though this part is probably more null.
I don't think he looks all that bad with regards to cakes interactions BESIDES not being around at all during the time cakes' lynch was actually going through before Day 1 deadline.
I don't believe his process on his cakes read is completely unbelievable.
Because who in their right mind thought cakes wasn't getting slammed through? Might just be null cause creature wasn't around. He had every excuse to hop back onto the wagon for towncred. Cakes was getting pushed for pretty good reasons.
Why wouldn't he bus if he could?
His skybird vote day 1 might be distancing? *goes back to read progression*
Okay so this is interesting actually. Votes skybird d1 (sheeping killthestory magenta shitpost) -- later on d2 skybird is found just below titus on a townlist.
This seems scummy actually strictly because of the rabble about skybird being town by role. My working theory on that is that one scum bought into it heavily and the rest of the team probably just tiptoed around it.
Later on further into day 2 fire and mcmenno stir up some hype about skybird after I call her out on having fake reads. He votes her.
Then moves on to DGB but still hangs onto the A50/RR/Skybird dichotomy.
Question to anyone who might know; why did we have scum within that pool at that time?
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Why do I even bother arguing..
What's his scum strategy going into this? Bus cakes and then turn around based on some arbitrary reads or w/e?
BTW creature's a good scumhunter I think what's more likely that happens is he nailed him on having a shifty read progression on him (makes sense from a town pov because I and a lot of other people track others reads on myself as a means of reading people) but then we town heard on cakes a bit and creatures paranoia as town thinking that there's too much hype surrounding cakes (especially on day 1) and seeing cakes town up a smidge (and yea, not gonna act like cakes didn't make a decent post or two) makes him turn around; and go right to pushing other things.
Half your case on creature doesn't make sense because you think his reads were him just quoting a cakes post.
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@Almost -- This is what you're sheeping right?
What in here couldn't be classified as confirmation bias and not easily swung the other way to display town-motive?In post 9788, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
This is absolutely correct … it didn’t make sense. At this point the only other vote on SirCakez is Snarky. So a pretty safe distancing vote.In post 976, Creature wrote:VOTE: SirCakez
It doesn't make sense for you to whiteknight me and then put me as "perfect null"
Says he wants to lynch Cakez at 1096. Has not actually tried to engage Cakez between his vote and this point. And more generic fluff about Cakez “playing like he did in TTH” at 1131.
Yet he unvotes at 1403 after Cakez posts 1403. That isn’t a post that should have Creature unvoting saying “Ok, you are Town”. Not in the least. Read Cakez’s post. It is pretty much an empty “here are some very generic reasons why I shuffled people around on my readslist” post.
And a classic distancing post from Skybird here. Read his ISO for yourself but’s he’s said absolutely nothing to this point about Skybird being scummy.In post 1700, Creature wrote:How Foxbird and Skybird are town?
Yet his next “scum reads list” at 1924 doesn’t have Skybird anywhere on it – Xk, Shiro, RR, DGB.
Creature drops another distancing vote (this time for Skybird) at 2314. The important point to note here is that Cakez is the leading wagon. And Skybird has exactly one other vote – the vote from KTS that Creature sheeped.
By 2731 SirCakez’s wagon has jumped back up to 10 votes. And despite having said nothing since 1405 about SirCakez he makes a pretty obvious bus vote in this post.
SirCakez fake-claims and suddenly he hops right back off at 2770. Pretty classic “Maybe my partner’s fake-claim will save him” move. Which clearly didn’t work.
So at the end of Day 1 he’s distanced from both flipped non-Traitor scum. At least to my eyes it is pretty clear.
Titus nails this back in 3273 seeing exactly what I am seeing.
At 5734 he posts a reads list that Skybird (remember the player he scoffed at being Town Day 1 and had no interactions with after that point to this post) in his “Strong Town” list. And despite having Mathblade in the second tier (aka weak Town reads) votes Math at 5937 with sheeping Titus as the reason. Terrible, terrible vote if he’s Town. Makes perfect sense as scum.
Compare this list to 5734. Note that Skybird goes from “Strong Town” to Null with absolutely not interaction and even commenting on Skybird in-between. Pretty strong sign his reads are being manufactured since he’s scum.In post 5969, Creature wrote:In post 943, SirCakez wrote:Updated reads
Town: Fire, Not Chara, mastin, grapes, farside
Nulltown: Yume, Creature, Klingon, A50, CoolDog
Null: Kraskaesque, KTS, Foxbird, Skybird, Seraphim, Random, TWIE, Shiro, DGB
Nullscum: Xkfyu, Snarky
Scum: Mcmenno, Obi
Special slot who gets their own corner because I can't read them = reasonably rational
Creature ends Day 2 on the Math mislynch. Note who wasn’t on his reads list at 5969. That’s right, Math.
I’ve mentioned this earlier but wanted it quoted here – this post put me on alert for Creature specifically because the pre-emptive nature of the post. To me it is meant to say “If MoI suspects me he always does” which for the record is not true.In post 6501, Creature wrote:MoI has the habit of attacking me, so I better be ready.
And important factor about Day 3 I’d also like to point out – here are all the mentions of Random during this day (which is the Day he ostensibly decided to investigate him at Climax) –
There are exactly none. So ask yourself – does Town who has an investigative role decide to not investigate a claimed scum read (Like, for instance, RR or Almost since Skybird was about to be killed by Xk) over someone they’d never mentioned at all? Especially when both claimed scum reads were harder to lynch players and random is basically slotted himself as a lack-of-activity easy vote? The answer is – no.
Other posts of note –
Another distancing Skybird vote at 7165. Still no interactions and clearly Skybird was under no pressure the Beach-a-palooza day.
Another distancing post from Skybird.In post 7444, Creature wrote:Don't worry, he's just flailing as he'll be lynched like the others in RR/Almost/Skybird.
Voting anywhere other than farside22, DGB and RR/Almost/Skybird should be a scum tell.
Why is this not a Town post you say? Why should he even be debating whether to ally with Skybird if she is scum as opposed to two non-scum reads in XK and Shadow?In post 8041, Creature wrote:Which alliance should I join? Xkfyu/Shadow_step or Skybird/TheFuzzylogic99?
So I’ve just summarized all the ways Creature’s posts Day 1-3 make perfect sense as a partner lightly distancing from non-Traitor scum.
More Creature votes please!!!!
His best point is under post #5969, and that isn't even a post creature made.-
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See guys some shit like that is something I'll probably end up pursing. Scum motive is pretty obvious for lying about why you've stayed ambiguous on all your role stuff especially coupling the lie w/ how shiro seems to have ended up not in an alliance + hasn't really made that much of an effort to make sure that that doesn't happen.
Creature's thing the scum motive literally doesn't exist. Scum wouldn't claim to have done something that didn't actually happen somehow, not to mention after the fact.-
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All I'm sayin' is that it looked like shiro claimed something to do with his role at a glance and lying about that is scummier than claiming an action that could be blatantly called out as bullshit by anyone paying attention at all.In post 10277, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I disagree with the grapes "Creature has no scum motive" but that can be hashed out today.
Unless you think it's a thing he would have HAD to claim eventually.-
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Did you submit kraska as your ally to the mod?In post 10304, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I need to be in an alliance to use my vig ability.... I think I was blocked bc someone prob thought I might kill the wrong person,,,,,,,
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