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@parma i don't think mariar was being sarcastic
vedith leaves, gamma flips scum
lynch shadow, he flips scum, if not, use his and vedith's reads to carry game
if shadow flips scum, lynch jester = win
if not win i'll re-evaluate then, this game is a fucking shit show to be honest, why the fuck did we let the game run up to 86 godamn pages without a lynch?
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parama and i are town, idc what others say, cerb is town i guess if he flips scum i'll just blame everybody else
nahdia, cerb, parama, hs townblock, arthur you can join if you want but i think parama still scumreads you for some arcane reason
refer to this post and post 2134 for an easy game for townnah-
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like seriously it's not that hard, 'lynch shadow' is easy as sin and it's been staring at us right in the fucking face for the whole fucking day phase but we've just been sitting around furiously jerking each other off and gaining nothing from the experience, while the more reasonable (or scummy lol) of us have just been sitting back not sure of what to say if they can even read and catch up because oh dear would you look at that they started using their own shit as lubenah-
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have i missed a detail in the twenty essays we've written on the topic?
do you see the problem here?
how can i verify what you've said? how can i accurately parse the information that would inform me of the correct decision here?
reading how gamma views shadow or vice versa and how that affects who i lynch is impossible
holy shit we still have like twenty gorrillion of these phases left, kill menah-
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10 pages ugh
this thread is so full of ugh
ugh
fuck you gamma lmao
'*if* I'm to leave, I'd like if some people could talk to me about SAD/inspectorscout in particular, since I've noticed a lot of scum reads on both of them that I don't understand at all and if it was up to me I'd want that pair alive at endgame. I recall SAD's posts generally being solid (even if kinda abrasive) and I'm not even sure why people seem to find inspectorscout's posts scummy (going off memory here; if I'm wrong correct me).'
oh would you look at that puyguyn is right
i do not understand how PEOPLE ARE LETTING SHADOW LIVE
I JUST DON'T GET IT
I ALSO JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE AREN'T TOWNREADING SAD THE3 OBVTOWN
allcaps isn't my style, sorry
'I'm fairly certain Mini's town, so unless somebody has a convincing reason to eliminate me, please don't waste everybody's time.'
JESTER IS SO FUCKING SCUMMY OH MY GOD
allcaps isn't my style, sorry
'20+ pages
I will skip them all.
Is shadow lynched yet.
I'm not putting an ounce of effort till that happens.'
HOLY SHIT ARTHUR STOP BEING SO RIGHT
allcaps isn't my style, sorry
'He achieved one thing which is get a flip before 100 pages, so congrats for doing something people clearly had almost no chance of doing seeing as it's a miracle if we ever get a lynch.'
AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRTHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRR MAAAAAIIIIIII HEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOO
'interactions like this are part of why I think SAD is town, ftr.
legit don't know why anyone has that as a scum read'
PIIIIIIEEEEEEEGUUYYYYYYYYN MY HEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOnah-
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HS/Parama T/T
Cerb/Nahdia T/T (I personally think cerb is kinda scummy but I'm still sheeping the townread aleph-0 credible players have given)
Arthur/Scout T/T
There is -no- way -both- mariar -and- shadow will flip town.
Kagami, Jester, Mhsmith and MDS are all good placed to look for scum. I'm warming up to mhsmith the more he posts. Kagami is still a townread, but he's an edge case for scum based on what Dunn has shared.
There is -no- way -both- Jester -and- Mini will flip town.nah-
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Parama, Arthur, HS all DEAD SET on a Shadow lynch (did I miss anybody?)
Are we all scum? Do you really think all of us, who are at least somewhat switched on and thinking the game through, are trying to mislead town into a mislynch with Shadow/Mariar?
Oh yeah, Vedith too, confirmed town and all.
Kagami, the Shadow wagon would be a great vote.nah-
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PEOPLE THINK THIS IS TOWNIn post 2384, MariaR wrote:Don't you dare try to do the "sheep vedith card" cause that's not gonna work you're not dumb HS there's no way me and shadow are both scum pick and make a case or better yet if you really think that make a case on both of us shouldn't be that hard.
GAMMA FLIPPED SCUM
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Discredit: The postIn post 2385, MiniDeathStar wrote:No, I don't think you are all scum. But I believe Shadow is a very convenient scapegoat. Maria's townreading him and I trust her. Jester's townreading him and I trust him a hell of a lot more than I trust you HS. Both Maria and Jester have played with Shadow before. Have you?
I trust Parama but she's too deadset on the incriminating scumslip and isn't considering other possibilities. As for Arthur, his reads just suck, period.
Vedith's reads sucked, too. He was totally wrong about Gamma and he shared a PT with em. He called me scum, too. How am I supposed to trust any of his other reads?
Also, you trust Mariar AND Jester, that's almost comicalnah-
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''Shadow_step - MariaR [3] - Parama, Human Sequencer, Ser Arthur Dayne''
THIS IS NOT OK
A MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY NOT VOTING: THIS IS NOT OK
THIS GAME IS NOT OK
mhsmith is getting more townpoints. i wish he'd post less setup spec though, that's like 90% of his iso :^)
taking cerb granted as town is dangerous, i'm with smith on this (sort after intermission)
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kinda towny*In post 2503, pieguyn wrote:
remind me what your read on inspectorscout was again?In post 2499, Human Sequencer wrote:arthur is still locktown
*subject to change
nothing has really pinged my interest yet except for his questioning of nahdia, and the more of him i see the more i realize that falls in line w/ his personality
why do you ask?
@parama
i did not say both mariar and shadow would flip scum, i said i wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, even if it's unlikely.
i posted this in my pt, putting it here to clarifynah-
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Oh yes, of course, my entire case is that shadow scumslipped, that's all it is, and nothing more.
Nice misrep!
Still, you're probably town
Reasons to lynch mds/jester are great but reasons to lynch shadow/mariar is even greater
Also, this still stands so you can pretty much bump the vc up by one
Also scout i realize my 'fuck off scout' was really aggressive and that entire post really dismissive, don't take it personally bro, i very rarely mean the mean things i say (except for that one post about jester's work, fuck that amirite)nah-
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MDS KNOWS WHERE THE MARK IS LELIn post 2584, MiniDeathStar wrote:And it sucks even more how off the mark the rest of you are.nah-
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@mhsmith and dunn
this is like one of the best, most insightful and most pro-town posts in the game, and you can't say he just did it for town cred.In post 2433, mhsmith0 wrote:In post 2425, MiniDeathStar wrote:I'm being serious though. Half the town obviously has some level of scumread on us, and I don't think anybody *alive* is considering us town-town, but we aren't getting enough votes. The mafia are saving us for the final mislynch.How to play to wincon in this setup, vs what people are actually likely to do, by smith
If you're a villagerIf/when you feel your lynch is inevitable, you should still fight it and ensure that if you are lynched, maximal information is gained from the loss (and if it turns out your partner is a wolf, even better to actually have the process be an actual lynch)
Villagers will actually tend to give up because "I'm helping the town since I'm going down anyway" (even though they flagrantly aren't helping the town while doing this) or "screw you guys for suspecting me" (because it's easier than actually engaging meaningfully with the stated suspicions). This is because villagers tend to be lazy about considering what it means to be a villager, and/or tend to take self-destructive moves out of pique.
If you're a wolf
If/when you feel your lynch is inevitable, wolves should leave the dance to deprive town of useful voting information
Wolves will actually tend to fight their lynch though because they're survivalistic in nature, and/or underestimate the chance that they'll actually get lynched
This has been a PSA by smith. You're welcome.
why not?
because it's not an effective way for smith to get towncred if people have spent half the game berating him for doing nothing but setup speculation.
i don't think anybody can argue what he's saying isn't true, and it's clear smith knows what he's saying because he's saying it (lol). bringing light to it does not make sense for a scummy scum. scumSmith has no motivation whatsoever to make that post, and it harms his win condition -greatly-
this post is so badIn post 2733, MiniDeathStar wrote:Also, I really don't like Human Sequencer dropping these random townreads. If smith's town, Kagami's town, Arthur's town, then who is left to be the scum? Shadow, Jester, and? Cerberus? You?
You don't *actually* think Maria or I are scum together with our partners, do you?
remember the whole 'i'm partnering with jester regardless of alignment' thing? remember that whole saga? i do. the fact that you paired w/ jester is nai, it doesn't point against you both being scum because you were a lock pairing, in the same way that i was asking parma to dance at the start of this game.
i'm not trying to insinuate that you -are- both scum, i'm pointing out the fact that you have said something completely contradictory with something you've said earlier in a dismissive tone in a way that looks like an intentional discredit.
as for the first half of the post, here's another interpretationmds wrote:I don't like Human reading town as town, solving the game and using PoE to find scum. I'm going to discredit the approach by making an absurd logical leap to make him look bad.Spoiler: confirmation on pieguyn's alignmentnah-
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alright let's stop the misrep and see where my reads actually are huh?
lock town:
{arthur, parama}
probably town:
{smith, pie, scout, kagami}
unsure:
{dunn, cerb, mds}
scummy scum:
{shadow, mariar, jester}
that leaves a whole six slots to find scum in, and only 4 of them are paired.
are you going to rethink your stance now that you have more detailed information, or do you think 2735 is still a valid post with valid points?nah-
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also you miss the point of my post, i clearly did not argue that you were scum together. read it again.
'i'm not trying to insinuate that you -are- both scum, i'm pointing out the fact that you have said something completely contradictory with something you've said earlier in a dismissive tone in a way that looks like an intentional discredit.'nah-
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In post 2548, Human Sequencer wrote:In post 2503, pieguyn wrote:
@paramaIn post 2499, Human Sequencer wrote:arthur is still locktown
i did not say both mariar and shadow would flip scum, i said i wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, even if it's unlikely.
i posted this in my pt, putting it here to clarifynah-
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No, parama has communicated her read on arthur with me in our PT favorably, and whilst I don't agree with it, I at least understand it. It's organically fluctuated over the course of the game and that one read is one of the stronger reasons I townread Parama so much, it's hard to fake that shit and it comes off 100% genuine to me (sorry for outing deets on your reads parma)nah-
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@2766
The motivation read to me as 'Holy fucking shit townies, stop talking about suicide, stop doing suicide, I just wanna win the game retards'. I thought that was implied by the way I wrote my post.
townSmith was getting frustrated that the idea of suiciding was even on the table, so he posted that to set the record straight.
Dunn vs. MH reads town on smith, 'eh' on dunn. Dunn is really hard to read this game.
Shadow/mariar needs the rope. Stop running yourselves into circles around smith, jester/mds and arthur. Instead, LYNCH THIS FUCMKING SCUM
VOTE: The obviously scummy wagon
VOTE: The obviously scummy wagon
VOTE: The obviously scummy wagon
VOTE: The obviously scummy wagon
VOTE: The obviously scummy wagonnah-
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@Dunn
lolwot
I'm not pushing the smith/pie pair because smith is town and pie is probably town. How am I reaching?
I explained my read on smith quite satisfactorily, and I can't interact with him because we're online in different timezones.
?????? dunn you're confusing me this game
Spoiler: BIG WALL OF MARIAR SCUMMINESSnah-
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Also saying I barely interact with pie is like
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I've interacted w/ pie on every opportunity I've had and probably will continue to until I run out of blood
PEDIT:I never said you're both scum. Where are you pulling that from? I have not in this entire thread expressed that your interactions with mariar are theater.
Parama and I aren't convinced/don't think that smith/pie are scum. We'd be fine lynching shadow/mariar because that pair is scum incarnate.nah-
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