Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Andrius]

Day 4 Will End on Tuesday, November 29th, at 2 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-11-29 14:00:00)

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[Andrius]

Day 4, Vote Count #4

Current Vote Count:

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(0)

Maxous

(0)

Creature

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Titus

(3)

Shiro -- Titus, Narna, massive

(0)

Nahdia

(0)

Firebringer

(0)

Not Chara

(0)

Ankamius

(0)

SnarkySnowman

(3)

Narna -- SirCakez, Andrius, Maxous

(1)

Almost50 -- Shiro

(0)

Andrius

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

Giovanni il Pellegrino, Creature, PeregrineV, Nahdia, Not Chara, Ankamius, SnarkySnowman, Almost50, Firebringer

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Titus is V/LA until 11/25.
Firebringer is V/LA until 11/26.

Day 4 Will End on Tuesday, December 6th, at 11 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-12-06 23:00:00)

Day 4, Vote Count #5

Current Vote Count:

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(1)

Maxous -- Not Chara

(0)

Creature

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Titus

(2)

Shiro -- Narna, massive

(0)

Nahdia

(1)

Firebringer -- Nahdia

(1)

Not Chara -- Creature

(0)

Ankamius

(1)

SnarkySnowman -- Titus

(3)

Narna -- SirCakez, Andrius, Maxous

(1)

Almost50 -- Shiro

(0)

Andrius

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

Giovanni il Pellegrino, PeregrineV, Ankamius, SnarkySnowman, Almost50, Firebringer

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Titus is V/LA until 11/25.
Firebringer is V/LA until 11/26.

Day 4 Will End on Tuesday, November 29th, at 2 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-11-29 14:00:00)

[Andrius]

Deadline's in 4 days.

[Andrius]

Thats idle speculation.
Which is to be expected of you.

[Andrius]

I think someone shortened the deadline.
Anything beyond that is idle speculation.

[Andrius]

Unvote

[Andrius]

Snowman should have been replaced a long time ago or he should have just replaced out.
I mean, I'm no better than he is right now and I'm considering leaving because my heart isn't here and I'm really not doing anything for you guys.

I'm coming around to lynching Titus but I'll probably Maedhros this one and stand aside.

I should probably mention that she knows my role. So if she's scum the entire scumteam knows my role.

I've been calling people out for not doing things and here I am.
But for some of the others, this is part of a bigger towntell of mine.

[Andrius]

Wait timeout.
Ank.
Are you scumreading me?

[Andrius]

Honestly, don't even compare the way you have played this game with the way Snarky played. At least you have a thought process that we can follow, no matter how erratic it might be sometimes. Snarky basically just came, spouted a couple of four word sentences and then vanished into the night. Even SlySly, the quintessential torch and pitchfork townie this game, didn't reach Snarky levels.

I know but I think what I need is to freshen up my reads but this game is so huge that rereading D1 would do me more harm than good.
So reading is out.
And I'm seriously concerned Titus is scum.
But I don't want to lynch her because she seemed more town elsewhere even though in-thread seems like she's missing her heart.

[Andrius]

Day 4, Vote Count #7

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 4 Will End on Tuesday, November 29th, at 2 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-11-29 14:00:00)

FYI
Three days.
Assuming the deadline won't be extended for the replacement, that is.

[Andrius]

For some reason I feel like the mod cut short the deadline.

This makes me want to mod a bastard game.
And do exactly what I told Skulldugg I think he's doing to me.

[Andrius]

TOWN
Ankamius
Firebringer
Maxous
SirCakez
Giovanni
Nahdia

Town
Creature
Snowman
massive

FRISK
Andrius

???
A50

Scum
Titus

SCUM
Not Chara
Shiro
Narna

[Andrius]

I can see Snowman as scum who's just lurking.
Creature's not TOWN and just Town because of the CONFIRM ME TONIGHT FOR BULLETPROOF INNOCENT which rings a particular bell I distrust.
massive's not really done much but I think he's town enough.

A50 is a toss-up for me.

Titus gets Scum category or HEARTACHE category as well.

[Andrius]

Also does anyone know who/when/where posted that claims list?
Because I can't recall who's what right now and I can't even tell you what Shiro is supposed to be anyway.

[Andrius]

Meh, let's compare the claims.

MagnaofIllusion - Motivator
zakk - Flavour Cop
McMenno - Coroner
Titus - Vanilla Cop
Me - Bulletproof
Shiro - Role Cop
Nahdia - Jailkeeper

Rating from 1 to 10 where 1 is the least powerful from these and 10 is the most powerful, how it would look like?

[Andrius]

TOWN
Ankamius
Firebringer
Maxous
SirCakez
Giovanni
Nahdia

According to this site, you got a D.

Does this statement have any substance or are you just posting words?

[Andrius]

Which ones?

[Andrius]

SirCakez is TOWN for his D3 play and, frankly, the governor reaction.
He's one of the people I'm townreading from the towntell I hold close to my chest.

Nahdia's here because their play has been solid and, while frustrating at times, I think they're town.

[Andrius]

I'm not expecting to convince you more like let you understand a bit of my mind.

[Andrius]

Well hey I'll take what I can get.
If you need help, let me know.

[Andrius]

Hello BigYoshiFan.
Three days to deadline.
237 pages to read.
Better get to it.

[Andrius]

Or, you know, you could just read D1.
There's been a LOT of replacements D1 and you're going to miss a good chunk of the game without reading [House, Accountant, GT] along with the dead players.

[Andrius]

Meh, let's compare the claims.

MagnaofIllusion - Motivator
zakk - Flavour Cop
McMenno - Coroner
Titus - Vanilla Cop
Me - Bulletproof
Shiro - Role Cop
Nahdia - Jailkeeper

Rating from 1 to 10 where 1 is the least powerful from these and 10 is the most powerful, how it would look like?

[Andrius]

Also Titus knows my role but the its not common knowledge.

[Andrius]

No!
You're making progress!

[Andrius]

[Andrius]

D1 is pretty solid.
The lynch was terrible.
D2 is all trash ignore it all.
D3 is good through the Govern.
Then it just idles for the next 10 days until deadline.

D1 most important.
IMO, D3 until the govern is the other big part.

[Andrius]

Skipping D2 means you get to ignore all the speculation about me being a Serial Killer.

[Andrius]

See.
Now that's common sense.
A miller which is hypo-reactive to any and all investigations is stupid.
What would happen if they're investigated by a Vanilla Cop?

Vote: Shiro

Narna we might be able to be friends after all.
Might.

[Andrius]

I remember thinking I should ask DUGG that earlier this week but likely forgot and/or didn't care.

[Andrius]

Shiro is claimed miller.
Narna investigates a person and learns if they have the ability to kill. Aka [Vig, SK, Mafia, people with killing abilities].
Narna claimed a guilty on miller.
After some back-and-forth regarding millers returning as guilty to EVERYTHING
Apparently Narna is saying that miller would not false positive to being able to kill or not.

So one of them is scum.
If not both.

[Andrius]

I mean, Vanilla Cop could simply be Scum Rolecop but tailored to look less bad.

Menno is basically useless.
One of [Shiro, Narna] is likely scum and thus might be lying about their role.

50 is both WEAK and EVEN-NIGHT which is nerfed into the ground and/or scum needlessly complicating their fakeclaim.

[Andrius]

Also town Jailkeeper supports the town cop thing since its not a doc.
zzz

cakez you're a mod worth your salt

[Andrius]

Frankly I can see Narnascum bussing Shiroscum.
Which I am totally ok with because deadscum is deadscum.

[Andrius]

Also, did anyone object to their flavor claim? I don't think so and I'm not sure if I'd consider Asriel to be an evil role or a good role. Not Chara, your Undertale expertise is needed!

No please dont encourage NC into flavor speculation.
How do you think this game is at 239 pages?
Lots of unnecessary words. Some are mine.

[Andrius]

Dear lord, I'm only 10% through. Are there any parts worth skipping?

Skip wingdings

And my claim is Gerson - Psychologist I can learn if another player has or has had the ability to kill each night. I believe it wasn't mentioned in that list.

[Andrius]

Narna bussing shiro would make sense here

YEP.

[Andrius]

TINFOIL THEORY: Someone on the scumteam/all of the has/have an alt wincon like those of the dead townies and they need Narna alive for it?

[Andrius]

I mean BASTARD GAME.
I'm Frisk so I imagine there could be complications if I'm ever lynching/killing someone but that's idle speculation 100%.

[Andrius]

inb4 the only way to win is to declare a draw and thus stop senselessly murdering each other.

This makes a lot of sense for PACIFIST FRISK

[Andrius]

Its k.
We're lynching Shiro or Narna based on the claim once we sort it out. Today is set.

Dont fret yet, Creature.

[Andrius]

Oh look its firebringer being useless

Its called a DRAW, Fire
I know reading is hard but come on

[Andrius]

I can relate. But you cant even be bothered to look up the right DRAE vote

I apologize for my conduct. Namely to you. You saved me this gamr a couple nights ago

[Andrius]

Everybody has been ignoring players like Titus, Almost50, Nahdia, SirCakez and Not Chara.

Scum
Town
Town
Town
Scum

Not ignoring. Killing the obv scum first

[Andrius]

This is me confirming that Firebringer is a Neighborizer.
I crumbed being neighborized a few times.
The N1 target did as well.

Shiro was last night's addition and a certain Baker was not trilled with the addition.

[Andrius]

To be fair, I campaigned for SlySly or Ank to join us as I townread them both but there was some dissent.

[Andrius]

Shiro not voting narna means hes scum
Narna could still be bussing
Titus voting narna over shiro after yesterday is scummy

Pedit. Yes, I see no reason you couldn't be

[Andrius]

Now I'm seeing the potential that they are both scum...
Narna isn't as aggressive towards Shiro that I think they would be if they actually had a guilty.
I don't know how Shiro thinks Narna could be town if they were lying.

Meh, I'll vote for either of them. I still prefer Shiro by a slight margin.

This is on point.

[Andrius]

This miller is a killer.

vote: shiro

For BYF

[Andrius]

That and the D3 activity through the govern and fallout are big for me.

[Andrius]

VOTE: NARNA

[Andrius]

Stay determined.

If this is supposed to be a pep talk, its a terrible one.

[Andrius]

Titus was one of my neighbors.
That should explain a lot.

Anyone posting without a vote on Narna is claiming they are her scumbuddy.

[Andrius]

NC and A50 are also on the FOR DEATH list.

[Andrius]

Titus named Creature and Cakez by name in her last post.

[Andrius]

hOI

VOTE NARNA
OR DIE AS HER SCUMBUDDY

[Andrius]

Code: Select all

[b]Vote: Narna[/b]

[Andrius]

Its possible.
I just want to see Nahdia vote Narna.
I said I was going to present Narna's head to Titus as my proposal back on D3.
NOW SHE IS DEAD
I DOUBTED HER
AND SHE IS DEAD

[Andrius]

Narna
Creature
SirCakez

Titus' last words.

[Andrius]

She investigated Leonshade as Non-Vanilla.
Can't recall which night.

[Andrius]

I'll look again.
I can only recall results for two nights.

[Andrius]

N1 - Leonshade - Non-Vanilla
N2 - Narna - Non-Vanilla
N3 - Andrius - ???
N4 - ??? - ???

[Andrius]

Creature can be next.
no idea why Titus's townflip means i'm scum, according to SirCakez.

because of your battle with Titus
Also A50 is next, not creature

to be fair, creature's investigate me so I'm bulletproof confirmed town was pretty horrible

[Andrius]

Creature can be next.
no idea why Titus's townflip means i'm scum, according to SirCakez.

because of your battle with Titus
Also A50 is next, not creature

to be fair, creature's "investigate me so I'm bulletproof confirmed town" was pretty horrible

Added quotes because otherwise its confusing.

[Andrius]

Titus was voting to lynch Narna.
Titus was a neighbor.
Titus was a strong voice.
Titus was a claimed PR.
Titus knows my secret.
Titus would NOT be lynched today given that NARNA is still alive.
Titus suspected people.
TITUS POSTS IN THE GAME.
Titus isn't lurking and cannot be swayed easily from her path.

Titus being my neighbor should explain

my

interactions with her.

[Andrius]

I targeted Titus with a WIDGET I received on N2.
That could be why she's dead if this is all one big SKULLDUGG is trolling his players.

[Andrius]

Giovanni not dying after targeting Narna makes sense IF THEYRE BOTH SCUM.
He is trying to get us to step back from the NARNA LYNCH.

[Andrius]

14 of us left alive.

[Andrius]

Giovanni not dying after targeting Narna makes sense IF THEYRE BOTH SCUM.
He is trying to get us to step back from the NARNA LYNCH.

i buy this. only reason Giovanni was taken out of the lynchpool was his weak claim.

YEP

I think there is a strong possibility the whole game is town and Skull is pulling a troll game

ALSO A POSSIBILITY

[Andrius]

whats the point of running an all town game though
idgi

[Andrius]

Look.
If Narna flips town then we'll know there's something funky going on.
And I'll replace out.

If she's actually scum then we'll get a red flip and KNOW we're not all getting trolled.


pedit: I know its happened before - zwet ran one.

[Andrius]

Can we stop the flavor speculation?
Please?

[Andrius]

I kinda want to vote for a draw

This was discussed in the hood last night and two of us are ok with this.

[Andrius]

Also Cakes, we know part of your role.
Shiro told us before his death.

[Andrius]

Can we stop the flavor speculation?
Please?

fine. let's just lynch Narna.

pedit: sure, why not.

I'm not trying to rain on your happiness if this is your jam but we need DEAD SCUM desperately and we're at 250 pages and flavor spec is so not useful right now.

I am truly sorry if I'm being a killjoy.

[Andrius]

Can we stop the flavor speculation?
Please?

fine. let's just lynch Narna.

pedit: sure, why not.

I'm not trying to rain on your happiness if this is your jam but we need DEAD SCUM desperately and we're at 250 pages and flavor spec is so not useful right now.

I am truly sorry if I'm being a killjoy.

[Andrius]

9 town vs 5 mafia (supposedly), and if Narna isn't a complete idiot false claiming a guilty as town, it should be 8 town vs 4 mafia the next day
We can still do this.

Seriously, anyone who doesn't vote Narna in their first post of this day is scum.

I feel like now is the perfect time to be all SORRY IT WAS A FAKE GUILTY
but it didn't happen.

[Andrius]

Giovanni not dying after targeting Narna makes sense IF THEYRE BOTH SCUM.
He is trying to get us to step back from the NARNA LYNCH.

This makes absolutely no sense. Why would I come forth with such a ridiculous claim on the day Narna is most likely lynched? As Not chara said, I am out of the lynchpool partly because of my weak claim. Why would I ruin it to save a partner that is eventually doomed?

Well.
If Narna flips scum you and I will have words.

I'm not trying to rain on your happiness if this is your jam but we need DEAD SCUM desperately and we're at 250 pages and flavor spec is so not useful right now.

I am truly sorry if I'm being a killjoy.

you're not, really. suddenly i just find myself agreeing with you. Titus flipping town killed what little motivation i had left.

I just want this to end.
This game of mafia is basically about suffering.
Those of us left have to suffer and we basically have to learn to suffer together.
And I, for one, am being terrible at suffering with all of you. Namely Fire and you, NC.
if nothing more this will be a personal learning experience for me.

[Andrius]

No, Narna.
You're dying today.
You're flailing.
Chances are Shiro didn't receive your entire ROLE PM as that's just terrible modding.

He probably got a snippit.

Also.
1) PROVEN ROLE =/= PROVEN ALIGNMENT
2) THE ONLY INNOCENTS ARE BODIES

[Andrius]

I just want this to end.
This game of mafia is basically about suffering.
Those of us left have to suffer and we basically have to learn to suffer together.
And I, for one, am being terrible at suffering with all of you. Namely Fire and you, NC.
if nothing more this will be a personal learning experience for me.

i feel like i only got half of the meaning you meant here.

I took off my mask for a bit here.


Massclaim is likely not going to solve anything though.
Scum has a huge advantage right now, massclaim will not change that.
DEAD NARNA WILL THOUGH

[Andrius]

No.
I'm scumreading you.
If you flip scum, we will look at Gio tomorrow.

Anything other than you is a distraction now.

[Andrius]

mASSIVE town!!!!!!!!!!!! yaYAya!!

???

[Andrius]

VOTE: Almost50

?

NO ONE better say massive is town/scum because of this.
Seriously.
Ignore everything they say.
VOTE NARNA
Remember the names of the people who don't.

[Andrius]

almost50, not massive
whatever

SHRUG

[Andrius]

Narna, I want to believe you. I really do. Everything makes sense for your role to be town except for the guilty you presented on Shiro.
What happened? Why did you tell everyone about this "guilty"? What went wrong?

Because I had a guilty on him. As for what went wrong, he flipped town.

kill me

We will.
We'll wrap a rope around your neck and watch you swing.

[Andrius]

Shiro told Andrius Cakez's role and he gets roleblocked. Funny isn't it?

He told the neighborhood.

Continue voting Narna pls.

[Andrius]

Nahdia continues to not vote Narna.
Giovanni continues to not vote Narna.

[Andrius]

Giovanni not dying after targeting Narna makes sense IF THEYRE BOTH SCUM.
He is trying to get us to step back from the NARNA LYNCH.

This makes absolutely no sense. Why would I come forth with such a ridiculous claim on the day Narna is most likely lynched? As Not chara said, I am out of the lynchpool partly because of my weak claim. Why would I ruin it to save a partner that is eventually doomed?

Well.
If Narna flips scum you and I will have words.

This is your answer? Yeah, this is fully a pitchfork-and-torch era we are currently through. Since the participants of this game left logic behind at some previous timestamp, I will do the same.

VOTE: Narna

This is an L-3 vote.

Let's get the big bad boogeyman out of the way. If Narna flips scum, then come at me. If not, then we will definitely have words, although of a different context.

Either way, if this isn't a troll no scum setup, Town is doomed.

If Narna flips town we won't have words.
I'll be gone.

[Andrius]

THEY SAID THAT?

BOY MAYBE I SHOULDA ACTUALLY READ THIS GAME...

you make me want to replace out of the game
and narna's not even dead yet

[Andrius]

gio shouldn't actually be voting narna
if gio is actually a weak whatever the hell he is

but he is

[Andrius]

We could just vote for a draw.

[Andrius]

Actually it's highly likely there's a bus driver if Narna does end up town somehow

then you're going to have to figure that out without me
because I will no longer care

[Andrius]

THAT'S HORRIFYING.

I don't see it

[Andrius]

i swear that wasn't there before

This isn't Bravely Default.
Which is still the best title gimmick ever.

[Andrius]

No.
I see grey boxes.

[Andrius]

VOTE: narna
this flips scum or riot.

<3

[Andrius]

If you have seriously been sitting on that since D2...

[Andrius]

Well the worst than can happen is it blows up in your face and you die.
Which spares you from being in this game so not that bad.

[Andrius]

Ok A50 is scum.

[Andrius]

you guys should play it out though.

You know.
I really don't care to.

[Andrius]

Vote: Draw

While we see if Narna dies.

[Andrius]

If we have to wait 24 hours for the mod to post I'll be irate.

[Andrius]

tinfoil: there is just a sk, and he wins as last man or on a draw vote.

Play it out, too risky.

ITT we learn scum don't want to draw

[Andrius]

Meh, let's compare the claims.

MagnaofIllusion - Motivator
zakk - Flavour Cop
McMenno - Coroner
Titus - Vanilla Cop
Me - Bulletproof
Shiro - Role Cop
Nahdia - Jailkeeper

Rating from 1 to 10 where 1 is the least powerful from these and 10 is the most powerful, how it would look like?

[Andrius]

I reposted that since someone in the neighborhood asked for it.

[Andrius]

Waiting for daykill.
Returning to standby.

[Andrius]

PV, voting to draw is in the rules.

[Andrius]

Game Rules

.
(16) A lynch will only occur when a majority (more than 50% of all possible votes) is reached. The number of votes needed to hammer will be included with every vote count. If a majority is not reached by the deadline, there will be no lynch on that Day.
]

[Andrius]

Game Rules

.
(18) Additional votes include VOTE: No Lynch to end the Day with no lynch (which will also require a majority) and VOTE: Draw to end the game in a draw (which will require 100% agreement from all living players).

[Andrius]

I thought about voting to draw/abandon the game. The mod will probably request all the players to vote for that. Scum won't want to draw because they're close to winning, so they won't vote. Pretty simple, we'll see who's refusing to vote for a draw and we'll lynch them (note that scum will probably only have one of them to refuse to vote per day).

You basically just outlined the plan the neighbors discussed last night.

[Andrius]

Hey now.
Lets wait to see if Narna dies.
A school would do loads for this game.

[Andrius]

A scumflip*

Autocorrect strikes again.

[Andrius]

Also hey.
Daily reminder that flavor speculation isn't likely to get us anywhere.
If Narna dies, great!
If she doesn't, I still want to lynch her as our last huzzah.

[Andrius]

Voting for people who don't want to draw is a filthy way to circumvent the game.

Says the scumbag.

[Andrius]

Ignoring Narna posts until it dies.
Everything is propaganda until Narna becomes a corpse.

[Andrius]

You were #1 on Titus' deathlist.

[Andrius]

I trust the corpses.
Sly wanted you dead.
Titus wanted you dead.
Magna wanted you dead.

[Andrius]

If the N Clan is seriously all scum.
I might go buy whiskey and throw myself a party.

[Andrius]

Maxous town
A50 scum

If there are scum in this game

[Andrius]

I apologized to Skulldugg after the fiasco, but I'm sorry to the players who had the misfortune of playing this game with me. I was an ass, and this game was the first sobering moment in recent memory when someone took the time to go 'You know, you're being an ass and this is not acceptable'. I'm sorry I became that guy in this game and wish I had seen myself out sooner.

The Vote to Draw was bad and that might have been avoided had we had a discussion on its intended usage instead of LETS JUST BE DONE WITH THIS.

When I talked about replacing out if Narna flipped town it was more of a 'If he is town then my reads are useless and I will gladly walk so you get someone competent in here'. Because my reads were clearly atrocious five days into a game without a scumflip, or so I thought. I didn't mean it in a vengeful way like SCREW THIS IF NARNA FLIPS TOWN, more of a 'If he's town then I am useless'.

I respect Skullduggery's decision as a moderator because making tough calls like this one are difficult and something you don't want to have to do as a mod. What's done is done though.

Sorry to everyone whose experience I made worse.
Had an enjoyable time as neighbors with Fire and Titus.
Sly, you are a man among men and a joy to play with.

-A