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I'm dayvigging the shit out of you.In post 26, Something_Smart wrote:oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 43, Spiffeh wrote:VOTE: For Total War
no one nuke me though I have to beat my record from kuribo in wonderland
Lol these posts.In post 96, Spiffeh wrote:Yeah ideally we'd make a plan and decide collectively who we'd nuke and who would grab troops etc. and whoever strays from the plan gets turbolynched/nukedvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 298, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:OH MOTHER FUCKER CRYPTOLOGY IS BANNEDIn post 299, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:never mind guess I don't get to code break
Lol these posts.In post 300, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Andrius is codebreaking my heartvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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What the fuck is this post.In post 245, Nahdia wrote:Woo I'm caught up again. Would like to be more thorough but I've got stuff to do and wanted to just give my thoughts as some things develop so far.
So my understanding is that we're not doing total war now, aseveryoneneed to agree to Total War for it to happen.
I think RC's analysis has been good, though LLD is right it's possible they're just trying to look useful? I'm certainly not pinged by it though. And I would like Magna to respond to the point RC made that Magna was town and against Total War last game and clearly for it this game; that was an interesting catch which warrants explanation.
Only person to ping me so far is Recks. Just the way they outted their reads; it seems very flimsy and my gut read is scum trying to ensure they've got their bases covered wrt early contribution. Definitely not a strong inclination, just where I'm thinking rn.
Since we'll be moving into DEFCON 4 once everyone has checked in, I'll just say this now.If I get it, I'll absolutely claim that I did right away. If I don't get it, hopefully either some other townie will claim it (it'd be nice if you'd put forward your intention to put it as your #1 pick in advance as well) and barring that, we can assume scum have it. Even though there's a decent likelihood it won't make a difference even in scums hands for all sorts of potential reasons, I think the value of having Counterintelligence be a completely known factor and out of play is high enough that I'd be willing to personally sacrifice my nukes for it.I'm going to be putting "Counterintelligence" as my #1 choice.
Hopefully this was articulate and not just ranty and bad. I'm trying to keep from spamming this game but I'm not used to making big singular posts condescending all my thoughts at once. Much more of a "stream of conscious" kind of player usually.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Lol.In post 245, Nahdia wrote:If I don't get it, hopefully either some other townie will claim it (it'd be nice if you'd put forward your intention to put it as your #1 pick in advance as well) and barring that, we can assume scum have it.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 76, Cheetory6 wrote:I suppose we could use the dayvigs like extra lynches?
In which case could not effectively do like.. five lynches a day or more?In post 86, Cheetory6 wrote:Like, what's to stop town from just powerlynching through the playerlist with nukes?
Time limitations?In post 88, Cheetory6 wrote:Can even force people on the chopping block to be the ones to drop the nukes so they can't hail mary as they die.
o.o
Am I missing something here?In post 91, Cheetory6 wrote:Why not? We could hash out deadlines and be organized about it.
I'm probably barking up the wrong tree with this game and playerlist but I mean, theoretically this setup could be easy as fuck to basically give town so many more lynches than they normally get.In post 93, Cheetory6 wrote:Oh fuck true. I forgot not everyone is going to take nukes [though there's really nothing stopping anyone from not taking nukes other than the fact that people aren't going to follow a set plan like that in practice].
GOOD poster.In post 138, Cheetory6 wrote:
This is barf.In post 134, Spiffeh wrote:Scum are more likely to dislike the random element of TOTAL WAR and oppose it
Are you actually standing behind that stance in practice? Because I would expect scum to be pretending to be cautious in doing something like this, not to actually try to oppose Total War for some mechanical purpose.
Spiffeh vs this guys posts are like night and day.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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What.In post 333, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:we can ask them to post the suicide line and they'll kill themselves.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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??? What's the point of this?In post 345, Accountant wrote:Death by nuclear strike:
Nuclear missiles are deadly – even if you aren’t killed in the initial blast, a slow death by radiation is sure to follow. If you aren’t tough enough to handle the grueling experience, there is an easier way… {If you are being targeted with a nuclear missile, you may post I do not wish to die a painful radioactive death in the thread. This will cause you to commit suicide and leave the game immediately. ***WARNING***: This command is irrevocable and cannot be reversed or prevented by any means, including the battleship, fallout shelter, or abort launch. If you post it, you instantly die.}
Does the person end up saving their dayvig or is it still used up?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I'm p sure the #1 rule is to play to your wincon I don't understand why you're fucking your team this hard but I really suggest you start running all of your posts by your private thread before posting them here.In post 356, Spiffeh wrote:FB is doing that thing he does as scum where he acts all cutesy and pretends to not carevezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 167, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Oh and RedCoyote needs nukes to the face before endgame for his current posting. Could be town but it's just essentially quoting a bunch of stuff from 3.0 and trying to make himself look useful.In post 168, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Don't waste nukes on this. This is the day 1 lynch. Sign a check, send it to the bank.
In post 169, RedCoyote wrote:LLD: Total War... yay or nay?In post 170, RedCoyote wrote:or yea rather
Lol this whole interaction reads fake af.In post 171, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Currently leaning Total War because pressure is everything and pepole do stupid things when they're afraid people like Fate will nuke them for nothing.In post 169, RedCoyote wrote:LLD: Total War... yay or nay?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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What is this supposed to mean.In post 309, Andrius wrote:Since we will not be going to Total War, we will move to DEFCON 4 when everyone has arrived or at the above deadline.
Don't we go to Defcon 4 regardless of if we go total war or not? Why is it saying "Sincewe will not be going to Total War"
Am I too dumb for this setup wtf. I seriously spent like 10mins reading the rules and setup and stuff.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 24, Papa Zito wrote:Getting 2 lynches before the mafia start killing seems like a plus? Help me out.
So I thought Cephrir the first one to do the "guys stop being hyped up about total war lets think logically" and I generally think the first one to do that is town. But actually Zito did that.In post 57, Cephrir wrote: I have only read the first post once but it seems like total war isn't the best. It's more fun, but night actions + getting actual gameplay to then nuke based on seems better. Convince me I guess.
Now his post is looking bad cuz it looks like makes him look like he's contributing without actually pointing having new insight or a fresh idea.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 87, RedCoyote wrote:Thank you, everyone, for not blowing the thread up. Reading over it now.
Lol.In post 108, RedCoyote wrote:Y'all think this is about right? I haven't read any of the discussion yet.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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LOL @Nahdia having no town reads.In post 451, Spiffeh wrote:I don't understand why everyone and their mother is scum reading RC
He is one of my like 3 solid town reads atmvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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How do people glance at this and think these reads are okay and not call out their bullshit.In post 443, Nahdia wrote: Not liking Dayne. 372 was just bad IMO. There was nothing about the post Spiff made that pinged me in the slightest so I really don't understand such a forceful call-out like that. Reads as just fake to me.
Disagree with Accountant that 375 is bad. I make posts like this as town.
Recks' 321 is needlessly defensive and 430 bugs me. I make flippant early reads on really minor stuff too but that just feels a bittoosimple a post to form a read on.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Oh that quote wasn't supposed to be there.In post 481, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
LOL @Nahdia having no town reads.In post 451, Spiffeh wrote:I don't understand why everyone and their mother is scum reading RC
He is one of my like 3 solid town reads atm
ANYWAY regarding the Spiffeh quote he hardcore whiteknights RC. REMEMBER THAT.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I mean unless it is like his first game as scum but yeah otherwise can't be that bad.
The real PROBLEM is this post:
In post 468, Cephrir wrote:some of those points are basically just you repeating what moi said only with sarcasm.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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lmaoIn post 509, Spiffeh wrote: Ceph town leanvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 524, Nukebringer wrote:
Go on about your zito townread.In post 519, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:PAPAZITO IS TOWN
CHEETORY666 IS TOWN
Something Special and Reck leaning town.In post 380, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So I thought Cephrir the first one to do the "guys stop being hyped up about total war lets think logically" and I generally think the first one to do that is town. But actually Zito did that.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 529, Nukebringer wrote:
Your reads look fake as hell and you usually have no opinion of me till much later yet you claim to scum read me.In post 526, Spiffeh wrote:In post 492, Spiffeh wrote:
Can you explain why you are scumreading me?In post 477, Nukebringer wrote:Town: Cephrir, Cheetory, Hiplop, mastina, accountant
Scum: Spiffeh, Nahdia,
Doesn't add up.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Wtf is this.
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In post 536, RedCoyote wrote:
The first good Zito post.In post 495, Papa Zito wrote:Mastin needs to die regardless.
Zito had much better posts earlier on but I can't tell if the one you quoted is sarcastic or not but he had much more townier posts earlier on.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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No that's not obvious at all:In post 536, RedCoyote wrote:
108 was after reading over the troops, obviously.In post 386, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In post 87, RedCoyote wrote:Thank you, everyone, for not blowing the thread up. Reading over it now.
Lol.In post 108, RedCoyote wrote:Y'all think this is about right? I haven't read any of the discussion yet.
Especially since you played previous game and the setup was posted in signup page. Meaning I assume unless you clearly state "WILL BE READING SETUP/GIVING MY THOUGHTS ABOUT IT" then you should already come in with that knowledge.In post 87, RedCoyote wrote:Thank you, everyone, for not blowing the thread up.Reading over it now.
You didn't give a comment at all about the discussion you just dumped a bunch of subjective info into the thread while labeling it as "roles for dummies" to make it look like you're ~helping~.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Hi name your top 3 town reads so far.In post 567, Nahdia wrote:LLD, Cheetory, Toogeloo
Is there something you're waiting to happen before you vote or..?
Idgaf about the reason you can pull them out of thin air for all I care or random.org them.
I want to have you on record naming 3 players that are reading town for you.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Lol this post.In post 586, hiplop wrote:
oh wow that is the 5In post 574, Spiffeh wrote:
What happened to Nukebringer and EP?In post 572, hiplop wrote:is the scumteam really nahdia mcmenno ut????vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Yo I'm calling you town.In post 597, Nahdia wrote:
Nah, you better keep trying to lynch me. If I do end up getting a nuke it's going your wayIn post 594, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Okay NAHDIA can go into the same pile as Something Special into VI category.immediately.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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You were making hella awkward posts though I needed to PRESSURE you like others did for Something Special.
Now you're both in the VI category of low hanging fruit that are prob town.
Now I will SET MY TRAP CARD:
To see who goes for the low hanging fruit.
MoI and Ceph have already fell into it.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Well they usually lean town if they're making VI yet genuine sounding posts.In post 603, GuyInFreezer wrote:Because low hanging fruit != town.
Which both Something Special and Nahdia are doing.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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^ This sounded genuine.In post 405, Something_Smart wrote:re: the setup, I'll think about that when it's not 2 am.
I think scum would have already discussed the setup in their private thread and most of them have already formed opinions about it.
So if scum were asked, even if they have have not formed a strong opinion themselves they would have leaned one way or another due to the amount of discussion regarding the setup in the private thread.
Now obv that's assuming scum discussed the setup, but I strongly believe in that and willing to go on that assumption.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Actually take this response on a whole:
What's easier for scum:In post 405, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: For
good questionIn post 121, Cheetory6 wrote:Something_Smart.
Can you give some thoughts on the setup or some reads?
re: the setup, I'll think about that when it's not 2 am.
re: reads, initial feelings say:
towny: Cheetory, mastina, UT, MoI, Spiffeh
scummy: Nukebringer, GiF, Cephrir
conflicting feelings: RC, LLD, Nahdia
discussion tabled for now- Reck
To give thoughts on the setup
Or to give reads.
I think theorizing about the setup or giving your opinion about it etc is much much easier for scum seeing as they have other people who they've already talked to or seen talking about the setup.
The fact that he skips the setup question and answers the reads question just reads super genuine and townie.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I mean, it's kinda not hard to do for example:In post 624, GreyICE wrote:@Dayne: scum might have opinions on setup. Scum might not have TOWN opinions on setup prepared. That's at best null.
In scum private thread: "I think total war helps us for X reasons"
On game thread: "I think not total war helps us because total war benefits scum for X reasons".
Or the opposite. Or any other thoughts regarding setup. It's easy to form a "townie" opinion when you've already formed an opinion.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Sure, I'm perfectly fine with that
As long as you understand my logic for the Something Special read and why it reads genuine b/c that's the first my eye caught when reading his post.
He performed the harder and more EDGY of the tasks requested (giving reads vs setup analysis)vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Didn't I advise you to run your posts by LLD in your scumchat before posting them here.In post 633, Spiffeh wrote:
This is awfulIn post 629, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:He performed the harder and more EDGY of the tasks requested (giving reads vs setup analysis)
I didn't think LLD would approve of you still posting so horridly.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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What do you think about what I said about Something Special?
Do you see it as genuine, someone who sincerely hasn't given much thought/bothered with the setup (because I can assure you scum would have much more thought about the setup - so your only two options really are that it reads genuine or that he faked not having any thoughts about the setup)?
Do you disagree that he went after something that is more dangerous when he could've went with the easier route?
And is this:
You only reasoning for your scumread?In post 78, GuyInFreezer wrote:
^In post 26, Something_Smart wrote:oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )
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In post 644, Ircher wrote:I might try a different catch up style this game... I've always been bad at finding scum just by reading posts and looking for what sticks out, so I might try a different approach and see if it works better for me.
That said, summaries are always appreciated.In post 645, Ircher wrote:And, as evidenced by the signup thread, I voted no to Total War partially because I don't want to be nuked N1 (very likely regardless of my alignment) and because I think that that adds too much chaos to this game at the beginning.
I have other responsibilities to do including homework and other modding commitments, and this game generally comes as last in my priority list.
Lol these posts.In post 647, Ircher wrote:@Mod - Since Toogeloo's vote wouldn't change anything anyway, can we go ahead and move on into Defcon 4?vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Are you gonna be performing voodoo to figure out scum or???In post 644, Ircher wrote:I've always been bad at finding scum just by reading posts and looking for what sticks out, so I might try a different approach and see if it works better for me.
I'm honestly up for policy lynching you off those three posts alone b/c it seems like you're gonna be utterly useless this game.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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I'm as trigger happy as the next guy but it's unfair and anti-town to go into DEFCON 4 without a slot confirming as that would put them at a disadvantage where they have to catch up and make a decision for role or nuke all in <72hrs.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Lol?In post 671, Spiffeh wrote:Accountant can you elaborate on your hiplop scum read because I think he's town atm
Have you read his posts? Particularly:
For starters he didn't mention anything about mcmenno at ALL and the only time he talked about UT is when he shipped him on the Mastin vote.mIn post 586, hiplop wrote:
oh wow that is the 5In post 574, Spiffeh wrote:
What happened to Nukebringer and EP?In post 572, hiplop wrote:is the scumteam really nahdia mcmenno ut????vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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How are you guys gonna strawman this hard:
He admits he didn't intend for it to be a reaction test, he just happened to be looking at the reactions that it stirred up. I don't see the problem with that?In post 415, Something_Smart wrote:
what's your point? obviously it wasn't intended to produce reactions. that doesn't mean I can't look at the reactions it did produce.In post 412, Accountant wrote:
>being flippant to dodge the point I madeIn post 409, Something_Smart wrote:every post is a reaction test if you think about it the right wayvezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Okay so what do you think the scum intent for #26 was?In post 704, GuyInFreezer wrote:I mean, this whole thing matches up nicely.
He screws up with #26, people gives him flak, he tries to pass that off as reaction test.
Fails, so he backtracks.
Like, it matches up wayyyyyy to nicely to be considered as just a possibility. The timing and everything.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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Nah it's def not reading like that to me. Yes it read super dumb but you're building off case off strawmaning here like he didn't claim he was reaction testing.In post 709, GuyInFreezer wrote:
One of those "hey guys I'm town!" schtick.In post 707, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Okay so what do you think the scum intent for #26 was?
I also don't think someone who messes up as scum easily enough to pull the "hey guys I'm town!" schtick won't be trying to justify it by "subtly" implying it was a reaction test. I think he would've outright said it.vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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