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In post 26, Something_Smart wrote:oh hey I finally rolled town in a large
but now I have 23 slots to sort...
I'll probably just sheep people who are actually good. (Which is like, everybody. Except me. )-
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I think I'm more thinking about breaking the setup in theory than I am practically thinking about how this is going to go down.
I think the biggest thing I'm going to practically want is that nobody shoots a pet scumread without a little bit of talk first.
I'm probably going to stop thinking too much about the setup because thinking in detail about how this will play is probably stupid.-
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This is barf.In post 134, Spiffeh wrote:Scum are more likely to dislike the random element of TOTAL WAR and oppose it
Are you actually standing behind that stance in practice? Because I would expect scum to be pretending to be cautious in doing something like this, not to actually try to oppose Total War for some mechanical purpose.
Why can't you just be happy for me?Ceph wrote:I have a feeling we are not going to get along-
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That's actually great.
I was just lurking the scumPT and it seems like they were pretty overly indifferent towards whether it was no Total War or Total War.
Maybe it was different in thread, but there was no concerted effort to make something happen there one way or another. Just seemed like they were having fun at this stage.-
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You didn't even post a gif you nerd.In post 156, Untrod Tripod wrote:I'll nuke you after the hydra
Clearly I have to stop you before you can.Spiff wrote:Will nuking all the scum be town enough for you?-
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mastin, can you talk a little about any kind of thoughts you have wrt LLD scumreading you here?
@Spiff, I can't eat EP scumread here. If you have reasoning can you hit me in the face with it.
I'll probably get stabbed and be an ugly corpse once the apocalypse happens anyways.xRECKONERx wrote:im not nuking cheet bc he's cute and cute people get free passes in life so let this be a lesson to everyone or something-
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I think if you're willing to give reads and play the game to some degree, at least I won't be asking for an apology postgame?In post 221, mastina wrote:It also means that if I actually did bother to give a damn and give reads, they'd be ignored because I'm playing like a fucking village idiot right now so when I die they'll go "she deserved it", "she was asking for it", and so on and they'll be absolutely right to have done so. (Which again, is why I'm apologizing in advance. If I was wrong in my decision to not take this game seriously, I'll accept full blame, full consequences, for having ruined it for others who did.)
Wouldn't worry about it too much if this isn't just mindgames.
Can you maybe try to articulate your read on LLD a little more clearly? Is it just tone/gut? Or are there specific posts/points/stances that you're taking issue with?
Is being tentative something you've seen specifically from scumRC?MOI wrote:If he was Town he’d have put on his American Denim and voted against it like Reck did.
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Forgot about how troops played into it. Was thinking purely in terms of nukes at the time.MOI wrote:Maybe because it paints a picture for scum where to aim for important Troops?-
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Watched Kid Show to some degree.
I understand in principle that you sometimes have to lynch strong players [and I guess you're right that this game is basically just strong players].
I think I was realistically more frazzled about the assertion that not voting right away is inherently scummy because I don't like being told I'm scummy! But I should probably learn to deal with being scumread more in general so!
P-Edit: You want eavesdropping in the game more than other roles on that list? :/
PP-Edit: Oh. Maybe neon frequency is just too bright for my eyes q.q-
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If you're expecting Cephrir to be anything but incredibly self-aware as both town or scum, then you're not expecting Cephrir correctly.Accountant wrote:Did you think anyone would let this shit slip by
Lynch this
He might be scum this game, but it's probably not for reasons like this.
More words on Ceph/Nukebringer reads please.In post 407, Something_Smart wrote:of all the responses to 26
Also, was your opening a literal reaction test or not? Were you like "har har I'm gonna get these scums with this" or were you like "oh people reacted to my opening I'm gonna analyze that I guess"?
Have you reached a consensus on pages 1-4 and 17 yet?In post 420, GreyICE wrote:Everything between pages 5 and 16 will remain a mystery
HeyCheetory6 wrote:@Spiff, I can't eat EP scumread here. If you have reasoning can you hit me in the face with it.Spiff.
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Some more specific examples of your experiences with town/scum Accountant would be neat.Nahdia wrote:I'm also recently being pinged a biiit by Accountant. My impression of them is that their tone is a lot more authoritative when they're scum and this seems to fit with that.-
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Lol.In post 410, hiplop wrote:
thats exactly what i was doingIn post 403, Accountant wrote:Not to be crude but it kinda looked like you were sucking UT's dick there
What in the fuck am I reading.-
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@Nahdia, so are you mostly just waffling on accountant here then? Any updated opinion on their play since your original comment?
Can you summarize what you felt stood out in Accountant's scumplay in the first link? If I'm skimming it I'm not going to get much from it and I really doubt I'm going to have time to seriously metadive anyone this game.
Also, have you played with RECK before?
@SS, still want words on your opening please.-
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I'll format your face.In post 490, Spiffeh wrote:Please never format a post like that again
Rate your ability to read EP on a scale of 1-10 based on history.
Are you talking about nuking mastin because you think she's scum or because lol?GuyInFreezer wrote:
You have sharp senses.In post 489, Cheetory6 wrote:most of your questions/posts feel super uninvested.-
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Where are Nahdia, GiF, MOI, Ceph and LLD at on your readscale?In post 502, Spiffeh wrote:My current ultra conservative nuke pile is {Something_Smart, Nukebringer}
I could add a few more names if I wanted to go balls to the wall but both of these slots need immediate death
You get extra homework because you criticized my formatting and I'm still really really really really upset about it.-
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In post 533, Spiffeh wrote:Like I have a decent track record when it comes to reading you and the fact that you try to discredit me right out of the gate instead of allowing me to come to terms with the read myself makes me pretty confident you're not town here
I mean.In post 581, Spiffeh wrote:How anyone can be town reading Nukebringer after Firebringer's bullshittery is beyond me
He hasn't responded to this [or posted anything else yet].
So I don't really see how you would expect anyone to see this as anything but an unresolved interaction? It's basically him going "i think ur scum because u said im scum" and then you going "now i know ur scum bitchhhhh".
If you want this to be anything more than a petread you should push it better.
I think he's one of those abrasive personalities that's hard to read if you don't have experience with him.Spiff wrote:Cheet what do you think of Ser Arthur Dayne?
I look at some posts and think the bravado would be hard to fake as scum and other posts where his logic and reasoning just doesn't reach me at all and I feel like maybe it's fake.
I'm not sure if I'm giving enough of a shit this game to actually look into meta, but I feel like that sort of thing would help with sorting him.-
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It's awkward? Sure?In post 678, Spiffeh wrote:
Cheetory look me in the eye and tell me this read is genuineIn post 529, Nukebringer wrote:Your reads look fake as hell and you usually have no opinion of me till much later yet you claim to scum read me.
Doesn't add up.
I don't need to wait for them to respond because I already explained why it's bullshit
At the same time though, you're asking him a question here, which kind of implies you're unsure of the references he's referring to. So, really, it just seems weird that you're overly and absolutely confident in this read. You're taking issue with him keeping track of something like that, when as scum, he's probably very aware of how and when you engaged him, especially if you were a threat to him in other games.
If the way you apply pressure feels different, why would that not be something for someone to be wary of?
Really doesn't seem weird at all to me.
And I can maybe get you latching onto the cutesy thing and feeling like this is discrediting on his end, but like, there's seriously nothing there on either end from either of you in terms of anything compelling as to why either of you are scum that anyone else is going to be able to take seriously.
People are usually defensive when people call them scum.
Both of your reactions to each other calling each other scum just read super null.
So.
Please.
Enough with the rhetoric.
Maybe a little more substance.
Give some concrete examples of townplay where he doesn't employ any cutesy shit or something,-
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Not scumreading Zito.In post 767, MagnaofIllusion wrote:My question to you is – why not ask about my Naked Zito Townread as well?
Also not agreeing with your townread on GiF for that, but that shouldn't be surprising.-
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Put MOI in there too I think.In post 870, Spiffeh wrote:I think the play here is to form a group of universally town read players and punish anyone that tries to nuke within that group with death
Especially in terms of high utility players anyway.-
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