Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

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x-shot weak doctor

lol okay

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You mean day 9?

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Welp, the Gerson claim looks fair.

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I think we shouldn't lynch cop claims.

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I am getting this feeling this is a role madness.

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I am interesting in lynching Titus next day.

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I don't think she's gamesolving.

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Welp, idk what to do then.

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Weird Titus hasn't complained about it and tried to push something.

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Was Narna hammered?

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Hell, wished Narna was scum trolling, but I find hard at this point.

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Hopefully we get some results tonight because so far there are a bunch of scum-aligned town.

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Hell, even a couple of scumflips will massively help town.

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If I am going to lose, at least we'll make sure scum lurkers couldn't coast to the game.

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Maybe we should start with Leonshade.

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02 SirCakez - Unhelpful
03 Giovanni il Pellegrino - Used to be helpful in the games I played with him
04 Maxous - Meh

05 Creature*

06 PeregrineV - Lurker!PeregrineV = Scum!PeregrineV

07 Titus

08 Shiro* - Usually a lurker

11 Nahdia
12 Firebringer

13 Not Chara - Meh, actually pushing the game

14 Ankamius
15 SlySly

17 SnarkySnowman*** - Usually a lurker
19 Almost50 - Presence lacking
20 Leonshade - Good to start
21 Andrius - Not doing anything unlike his town!self

22 massive*

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Shiro is usually a lurker

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I'd go for Giovanni, PereV, Almost50 or Andrius if not Leonshade.

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Did I miss a claim or something?

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Probably didn't notice/forgot your presence.

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Okay, you're not lurking, yet don't feel confident to put you as town.

But guess what? I feel confident to put Shiro as town.

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Okay then, not PeregrineV either.

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Opinion on Giovanni and Almost50?

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Okay, I think I didn't pay much attention to this game.

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I am a miller you guys, let's get this fact out of the way.

I actually buy this.

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There could have some active scum posters.

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Scum could easily put themselves as leader in this messed up town.

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Titus, why haven't you found scum yet?

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Maxous and Giovanni first. Maybe Almost50 too.

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Yey Leonshade is town

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Hopefully eventually our reads match.

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Yey it's real

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Heh anyone familiar with Shiro?

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-.-

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It's a cop claim, cop claims generally don't coast to endgame unless they find scum earlier.

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Thought Narna claimed he can see who can kill (aka all mafia/serial killer).

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Snarky is better than Shiro imo, though he's just a policy.

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Titus, what's your opinion on SirCakez here compared to Dragon Age Mafia?

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Mafia Traitors are usually endgamed when groupscum are dead, so don't see a problem.

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No, I don't want a Snarky lynch.

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Oh right, Andrius claimed killing role, thought it was Ankamius.

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Don't want Andrius lynch either.

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Is Ankamius lurking?

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Lacking presence

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Welp, I now have my wagon preferences.

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02 SirCakez
03 Giovanni il Pellegrino
04 Maxous

05 Creature*
06 PeregrineV

07 Titus

08 Shiro*
11 Nahdia
12 Firebringer

13 Not Chara
14 Ankamius

15 SlySly
17 SnarkySnowman***
18 Narna

19 Almost50

20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive*

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Anyone else I should strike out?

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Maxous, Giovanni and Almost50 are my top preferences.

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He isn't Open 655ing

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Most most most of them are.

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Creature, are all your alleged reads meta reads? What do you mean open 655ing?

aka taking advantage of the town instead of hard-lurking

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Already changed your mind?

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The hell is this Leonshade wagon though

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Narna doesn't make sense as scum unless Leonshade is his buddy.

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But Leonshade's govern is also pretty much towny.

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Welp, we can command Giovanni and see if he dies. Or maybe even catch him lying.

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Hell, I buy Titus' and Shiro's less.

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Even better, other town roles can action.

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Buyometer:

Narna
Giovanni
Shiro
Titus

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Fine with Sotty7 + Hoopla.

Not sure on the other scum.

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Oh woops

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I'll suppose Giovanni didn't get a "no result"

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So no lynching Maxous unless Giovanni is scum.

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Ugh let me try again:

02 SirCakez
03 Giovanni il Pellegrino

04 Maxous

05 Creature*
06 PeregrineV

07 Titus
08 Shiro*

11 Nahdia

12 Firebringer
13 Not Chara

14 Ankamius
15 SlySly

17 SnarkySnowman***

18 Narna

19 Almost50

20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive*

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Titus, Shiro, Firebringer, Not Chara, SnarkySnowman and Almost50.

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Info lynch: Titus, Not Chara
Lurker lynch: Shiro, Firebringer, SnarkySnowman (maybe Almost50)

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Damn, hopefully there aren't fake flips, I hate noflip games, specially large ones.

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What are all claims actually?

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Okay

VOTE: Titus

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Well, not sure now.

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If we lynch Narna and he flips town, that was likely the biggest waste town can ever have.

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Narna doesn't make sense as scum if Leon is town.

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Also, I don't think Leon would govern his scumbuddy and possibly bring down two scum mebers.

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Nah, I thought Narna was acting towny when he was hammered.

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What do you mean?

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Narna didn't seem like scum trolling after the hammer.

If Narna and Leon are both scum, then it's reasonable Narna knew Leon would govern her. Or maybe Narna knew there was a governor, but find it less likely.

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Okay looks fair.

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Though, if Leon flips town, I won't straight out lynch Narna, that's a waste.

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why would scum Leon plan to govern Narna, but kick off that plan by tunneling and then randomly deciding not to lynch him after all right at the end? there's no evidence of pre-planning. it's too messy.

This.

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Narna's role detects anyone with the ability to kill or just anyone with the ability to kill that hasn't killed?

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Hmm, need to think about NC wagon.

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Almost50, how can Leon be town and Narna scum?

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Also, I can be pretty useful if I am confirmed town.

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What do you think Skullduggery would most likely add in the game vs what scum would most likely claim from the investigative claims?

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So what's your opinion on how Narna acted after being hammered?

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So what's your opinion on how Narna acted after being hammered?

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I just feel like Leonshade had enough town cred that opening himself up to be scumread for governing Narna would be a bad move. I don't feel like Narna's claimed role is THAT critical for scum to keep around and waste town cred over.

Let's see if their opinion will change if Narna catches one of them.

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So what's your opinion on how Narna acted after being hammered?

I think it was more likely how town reacts after being hammered. What about you?

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If it's possible to fully clear someone from being scum...

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Oh right, redirectors.

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I am not disinterested either, just confused because I have many players I don't think are worth lynching but actually am wrong in most of them.

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If you can quote/make a case on someone, I'll evaluate it and see if I should follow or not.

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House has been improving at his scum play.

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Though, there was someone with a result on Giovanni I think.

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Oh nvm, he's a weak follower and we can make use of him.

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What's that townblock again?

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Creature, what changed in this game for you?

Many things changed.

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02 SirCakez
03 Giovanni il Pellegrino
04 Maxous

05 Creature*
06 PeregrineV

07 Titus

08 Shiro*
11 Nahdia
12 Firebringer

13 Not Chara
14 Ankamius

15 SlySly
17 SnarkySnowman***
18 Narna

19 Almost50

20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive*

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Giovanni's supposed to be striked out.

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Because I don't want to lynch a weak follower claim.

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PeregrineV wasn't lurking, I think he's town here.

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Shiro I'd uncross.

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Nahdia is jailkeeper and likely to die early.

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Firebringer doesn't look scum there like he was at Open 655.

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Ankamius I'm sort of buying his miller and hated claim.

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Shiro I'd uncross.

I was townreading her because of the miller claim, which I found harder to come from scum.

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SlySly looks genuinely town for me, not sure how he plays scum.

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SnarkySnowman being active in this game is a town tell.

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Narna can be a big danger for scum if left alive.

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I don't think Leonshade is a scum governor.

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Andrius he claimed vigilante (or some sort), I don't think he would lie.

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massive because he was cleared by Narna.

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Also, this isn't word vomit like I did at Micro 597 (in fact, I think that game was my best scum game, maybe behind Micro 647).

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Nvm, then I don't know what he wanted to do.

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I think he would try coordinating the claimed powers or something.

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Then I don't know what you are.

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All of the information contained in your role PM is trustworthy. Your role functions as described.

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I have a feeling Maxous is different compared to The Walking Dead Season Finale mafia.

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Anyone played that game?

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Maybe it's just a playstyle?

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Scummypants
Mafia Ascetic Miller
Aligned with the Scum

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Creature's interactions with me felt weird

As my old signature said: Weird =/= Scummy

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Sometimes BoP is correct when you expect someone to actually know what they're doing.

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Okay, Andrius is town.

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I'm doing some post explosions but I think I'm not reaching anything.

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That moment when you want to listen what others say, but you still think the lynchee will flip town and you're going to be the next on the stand.

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If you're going after easy lynches, go for someone that isn't actually trying to contribute to the game.

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Scum and their mislynch list.

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Don't you find it scummy when someone attacks mainly players like Shiro, SnarkySnowman, Leonshade and me?

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This isn't Titus being efficient.

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Also, anyone remeber who has pushed the McMenno wagon?

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Can anyone translate this?

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Let's make something like this:

We clear me during night.

If I am scum, you lynch me.
If I am town, you'll have an unkillable innocent child.

It might not sound that effective, but imagine scum being forced to have a conftown in like 3p LyLo (if we ever get here) and possibly be PoEd.

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Like a cop innocent or something like "these combination of results show that there's no way for this guy to be non-town unless the mod directly lied"

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Okay, maybe just use one PR to clear me.

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Imagine having an unkillable innocent child that you will see it survive to endgame.

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Let's make something like this:

We clear me during night.

If I am scum, you lynch me.
If I am town, you'll have an unkillable innocent child.

It might not sound that effective, but imagine scum being forced to have a conftown in like 3p LyLo (if we ever get here) and possibly be PoEd.

The hell is this
Are you claiming IC?

No, bulletproof.

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Though, it'd be good if I were a bulletproof conftown.

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At least think a bit.

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I am getting this feeling scum actually got good claims.

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Okay, what are the directions?

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Me?

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∞ shots.

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∞ shots.

sounds like a scum role to me.

If you think there's a scum governor, you can also think it's a town role.

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Just clear me somehow.

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You'll have a conftown that scum can't kill.

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It might be bad specially if there are less players left.

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for scum.

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Apparently you don't care for numbers anyway.

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Just like how much you care as scum.

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If not clear, at least make me likely town.

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Actually I know someone who can clear me.

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02 SirCakez
03 Giovanni il Pellegrino
04 Maxous*
05 Creature*
06 PeregrineV
07 Titus
08 Shiro*
11 Nahdia*
12 Firebringer
13 Not Chara
14 Ankamius*
15 SlySly
17 SnarkySnowman***
18 Narna
19 Almost50
20 Leonshade
21 Andrius
22 massive**

But meanwhile, we have dead players to deal with.

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Maybe I'd consider Leon/Narna, but you have to tell me what's your backup plan incase one of them flips town.

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Also, I'm not interested to go after easy lynches like Snarky, SlySly or Shiro.

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Not Chara wagon looks like an all-town wagon, though, I'm not sure if I should go there.

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Let's see my wagon:
Almost50 - Scum
Nahdia - Meh
Titus - Not sure now
Leonshade - Looks town
Not Chara - Not sure
Maxous - Used to be townier

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Not Chara wagon looks like an all-town wagon, though, I'm not sure if I should go there.

I am formally inviting you.

Okay.

VOTE: Not Chara

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Also, Titus, you're expected to be pressured if you mislynch three times in a row.

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Do you buy Giovanni's claim?

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I know Almost50 is online.

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but he'd rather play stealthily, why bother posting if the game is dead anyway?

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Titus, why haven't you found scum yet?

Creature, are all your alleged reads meta reads? What do you mean open 655ing?

aka taking advantage of the town instead of hard-lurking

Buyometer:

Narna
Giovanni
Shiro
Titus

Info lynch: Titus, Not Chara
Lurker lynch: Shiro, Firebringer, SnarkySnowman (maybe Almost50)

With the first, he's shifting the entire burden of scum hunting solely to me. It's odd. Asking why I was wrong on McMenno is ok? Why I haven't been perfect burden shifting, selling me as better I am, so if I fail I look shady.

The second sets up the dichotomy that one of the claims must be false.

The third looks really bad if you'ryou're town to continue a T v T.

lol this case is as fabricated as how newbscum usually does in Newbie games.

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*takes genuine scumhunting post*
*says it's casting shade*

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Every one of a50's posts sound so forced to me. Am I the only one feeling this? Also a50, why are you so sure Creature is scum again? I remember you saying he was mcmenno's scumbuddy, but that turned out false.

I feel you, Bern scunreading the slot since before he replaced in.

Think we can stage a grand push for glory there?

Down for it.

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What isn't a compromise lynch?

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2 days.

Let's not let scum get a free mislynch by letting the game stall and forcing a deadline lynch.

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I'll take reasons from both Creature and Not Chara about why they should stay in Undertales Mafia.

I'll vote the one that doesn't have the best reason to NOT lynch them.

GO Chef Ramsey!!!!

I can point out that I am way too careful as scum when posting.

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(6) Creature -- Almost50, Nahdia, Titus, Leonshade, Not Chara, Maxous

Hello, we're the scumtubbies!
We're going to stall the game in a town wagon so town must deadline mislynch.
Time to say bye!

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If we lynch one of Narna/Leonshade and they flip town, will the other be very likely town?

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Narna looks town.

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Also, how's it possible for Leon to be scum governor and Narna town?

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Also, how's it possible for Leon to be scum governor and Narna town?

Narna is scum.
Get the perfume out of your nose.

What if Narna flips town?

Also, don't come with "Narna won't flip town"

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Thanks, really useful.

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Narna also must've twilight trolling.

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Narna also must've twilight trolling.

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Also, if you're a tracker, I recommend you track Giovanni.

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Though, we need something concrete to lean on, not just lynch whoever you see.

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If Narna and Leon are both town and Titus is scum, who'll take the responsibility for the loss?

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Though, we need something concrete to lean on, not just lynch whoever you see.

We're not.
I have a sizeable list of people I won't lynch

Let me see, it includes:
Titus
Almost50
Not Chara
Any scum not mentioned

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Okay okay

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There's not much we can do anyway.

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Okay, at least for today I only disagree on two of them.

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VOTE: Leonshade

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Town is losing this game by flipping town!leon and then town!narna. We can probably survive one mislynch. Which is why we shouldn't dice it all on leon now.

Read a50's iso, and tell me he's done anything remotely proactive or helpful.

I actually thought that maybe one of you flipping town will make the other not be instalynched the next day.

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Maybe Leon/Narna flipping town will make good town think again. (While scum would go after the other mislynches, like me)

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In any case, Creature was (and is) playing differently than what I know of Town!Creature

My townplay changes through the games depending on how motivated I am and how easy I am getting reads.

But my scumplay is likely always the same, maybe take a look there?

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Huh? Nobody was trying to convince you. Nice try, but you need a better reasoning.

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I can still switch to another wagon.

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Though, tomorrow I'll be busy.

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Actually I may be online for the deadline tomorrow.

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What I don't like about this Leon/Narna is that nobody actually seems interested in testing if it's TvT, TvS, SvT or SvS. If one of them flips town, they'll most likely lynch the other, and if the other flips town, then they're probably going for another lynchbait.

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What if scum decides to not NK Narna?

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I'll start my townlist from scratch:
Andrius
Ankamius
SirCakez
SlySly

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Firebringer

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and that's it for now.

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I'd not mind changing to Not Chara. Shiro I might change to, but I think it's normal she's lurking.

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What's your opinion on there being a scum jailkeeper?

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Yes.

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Titus has asked/joined me on both Shirk and Not Chara wagons.
Neither have gone anywhere in three days.
I'm not sure what to make of this.

No, I am pretty confident in Shiro town.

I also kind of agree there.