California Trilogy - Dantès in Fresno (Game Over!)


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Post Post #1831 (isolation #0) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:17 am

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Reading the rules should take me a few days. Reading the game should be a breeze after that.

Just kidding. Will post partial analysis in the next few hours.
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Post Post #1832 (isolation #1) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:19 am

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It's a miracle! I get the Condorcet winner thing.
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Post Post #1836 (isolation #2) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:48 am

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Wait - I haven't read one word of the game - but is Gaspar claiming Survivor
without a rolename
and/or flavor???
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Post Post #1840 (isolation #3) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:16 am

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Gaspar wrote:DGB, I claimed several pages ago *WITH* rolename AND flavor. It's obvious that you haven't read a word of the game.
You'd be so kind if you were to provide a link to it - it would save me some work, this is a complex replacement.

I am Baptistin. At night I can explore in the dark and find out who is sleeping in their bedroom, and who isn't -OR- I can hide in a closet and avoid being nightkilled.
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #4) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:40 am

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I have only read up to page 5... since you are pressing for answers, here they are.

I can't hide in the closet every night. In fact I can only hide in the closet a maximum of 3 times.

However, it looks like Zindaras was claustrophobic:
Night 1: Pooky, in bed
Night 2: Skruffs, in bed
Night 3: IH, in bed
Night 4: Talitha, in bed
Night 5: Gaspar, out of bed

As far as power roles go, that's pretty useless. I am not sure how that works anyway. Would a doctor or cop be "out of bed," for example? Or only the mafia member that performs the kill?

Zindaras might have been gambling that he might value self-preservation at night in endgame. Or maybe if he was always considered suspicious, it was better for him to for a chance to redeeming himself with information at night, than to fear being nightkilled.

I'll just say this, if you lynch me, it's no tragedy, as far as roles go.
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:41 am

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Sarcastro wrote:I am so tempted to kill you right now.
Geez. I'm soooo not feeling the "thank you for replacing" spirit! I haven't read the game and I have several guns already pointed at my gigantic goofy head.
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Post Post #1850 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:43 am

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Setael wrote:I don't believe DGB's claim unless he's hidden in his closet every night.
Sorry to say - but Zindie did not hide even once.

I really can't help that one. Those were his choices.
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Post Post #1855 (isolation #7) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:44 pm

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Setael wrote:The time between his claim at 1:16 and his results at 4:40 is plenty of time to look over the thread and make sure your results work with who was in the game when, etc.
That's very very unfair. My husband was waiting for me to help him shop for a birthday present for his sister, so I was out shopping. I still haven't read the game. When I returned home, I posted in another game first, then checked this thread, and felt cold metal on my ample temple. Feel free to vote for me for any other reason, but that one is just too unfair. I play mafia a lot, but I am not a shut in, I have a son and a husband, websites to mind and a house to take care of.
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:47 pm

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Setael wrote:So... if DGB turns out to be telling the truth, we know Gaspar is scum.
I don't want to be hasty here - again I HAVE NOT READ THE GAME - but if that's true... wouldn't that explain Gaspar's rush to vote me?

I might be totally out to lunch, please bear with me, this is a very challenging replacement.
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:33 pm

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Setael wrote:The "I'm busy and I have a life" excuse doesn't fly here imo. If you had time to post at all, to be online long enough to claim, then you had long enough to give your results. The only reason you wouldn't is if you were fabricating them.
My husband was standing behind me tapping his foot on the floor as I was claiming. I said, two more minutes, I want to finish this post. And to put things in context, I am a grown woman, and to make people wait while I play mafia is unbecoming and silly.

It's not an excuse. It's absolutely true. Vote me all you want, but not for this patently wrong reason. Do you want me to scan the two store bills I have with the time stamps? I also went to two stores and bought knitting yarn. If I post the bills, will that work for you?
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Post Post #1860 (isolation #10) » Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:49 pm

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Well to me it is. I want to set the record straight.



14:13 and 14:49 are the times of my purchases. We went to several shops.

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Post Post #1870 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:35 am

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I still haven't read the game...

But I did find these quotes from the book with my name in it:
Alexandre Dumas/The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:"But will no one remain in the house, my lord?" asked Baptistin.
"Yes, the porter."
"My lord will remember that the lodge is at a distance from the house."
"Well?"
"The house might be stripped without his hearing the least noise."
"By whom?"
"By thieves."
So Baptistin is just some butler, but he's obviously concerned about the possibility of thieves at night.
Alexandre Dumas/The Count of Monte Cristo wrote: All was dark; one solitary, feeble light was burning in the porter's lodge, about forty paces distant from the house, as Baptistin had said. Monte Cristo leaned against a tree, and with that scrutinizing glance which was so rarely deceived, looked up and down the avenue, examined the passers-by, and carefully looked down the neighboring streets, to see that no one was concealed.
"All was dark; one solitary, feeble light was burning in the porter's lodge, about forty paces distant from the house, as Baptistin had said." Again, Baptistin is getting some information during the night. However, it is Monte Cristo that acts upon this information and inquires fully, not Baptistin himself. Baptistin stays away from the real action.

My role is extremely null indeed, but it makes perfect sense with the character. As you'd expect from a carefully planned Mr. Grey game. And I think, technically, it's more of a reporter/hider type of thing than rolecop/hider or whatever/hider.

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Post Post #1873 (isolation #12) » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:18 pm

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Setael wrote:Unvote. I need to think on that one.

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I'd be really happy to see that in bold.
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #13) » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:59 pm

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Silent Lee wrote:I am Captain Leclère, and I can go on a long journey any night so long as I didn't go on one the night previous, and while I am on a long journey I cannot be targeted.
Including kills?

Captain Leclère on his DEATHBED charges Dantes to deliver a package. EARLY in the novel, too. The Captain's DEATH sets the novel in motion. And that's IT. No more Captain Leclère for the whole rest of the novel, for the captain is dead.

The Captain no longer walks, he does not go anywhere, not during the day, not during the night.

On his "deathbed" at the very beginning of the book. Not a character that goes on journeys in the middle of the night. Not a character that defies death or adversity.

So if you're really Captain Leclère, the role totally doesn't match the character.
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #14) » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:07 pm

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Sarcastro wrote:Unless I missed something.
Yeah you did miss something, Sarc. Silent Lee here has pretty much claimed "corpse." The journeying, un-nightkillable corpse! The dead character you can only kill on odd days. It would only be a tad more believable if he journeyed only during a full moon to eat other players' brains.

Must be some new zombie role, haha. Really looking forward to see who's gonna fall for that one. I have to get some popcorn.

Scummie award material.
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #15) » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:35 pm

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Did I forget to vote??? I must have been crazed out of my wits from the laughter.

unvote, vote: SilentLee
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #16) » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:01 am

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Gaspar wrote:Interesting to note that DGB switched from me to SiLee after the claim. Her claimed results
directly
conflict with my claimed role.
I thought you might have an explanation, since all I find is whether or not you are in bed. There's no explanation? Interesting.
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #17) » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:10 am

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Gaspar wrote:I am thinking that DGB is almost certainly scum, and one of SiLee/DP
probably
is scum.
I haven't checked up Dragon Phoenix's claim (I will in a moment) - but how can you possibly believe one iota of SlientLee's half-un-nightkillable claim?

Seriously.

Frankly Gaspar, your support of SilentLee's preposterous claim does you no credit.

Gaspar. Let me challenge you.

Please post the following. Repeat after me:

"Claiming a character that lays in his deathbed and is dead in the novel within the first few pages really makes sense with a role of a guy that can journey out one night of of two and escape death. I am willing to consider this to be a possibility without laughing."
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #18) » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:13 am

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Talitha wrote:Further evidence against her is that all the Fresno characters in this game so far have been on the list on the Notable Residents list on the Fresno wikipedia page
I am not a notable Fresno resident, that's why. I am here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Count_of_Monte_Cristo

You're going to have to revise your position a little I think.
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #19) » Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:24 am

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Dragon Phoenix wrote:I am Sindbad the Sailor, townie with one ability: A limited number of times per game I can head for the sea and be shielded from most night actions by other players.
Sinbad the Sailor was one of Dantes' aliases.

From Cliff Notes:
"Monsieur Morrel's daughter, who first meets the Count of Monte Cristo as "Sinbad the Sailor"; he sends her on an errand to obtain monies which will save her father's business."

Also from the book:
"If you ask him he says Sinbad the Sailor; but I doubt if it be his real name."
"Sinbad the Sailor?"
"Yes."
"And where does he reside?"
"On the sea."

Had to check whether the sailor was only an alias, or whether he actually took to the sea. It appears that Sinbad did go to sea.

Dantes used the Sinbad alias to perform a good deed.
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #20) » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:21 am

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Aw, man! You didn't roleblock me at all, Sarcastro. A two-shot roleblocker is ridiculous.

Dayvig yourself, man... dayvig yourself. It's very bad that the ability fell into the wrong hands.

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Post Post #1906 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:14 am

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Sarcastro wrote:I have to hand it to you, DGB - you never give up.

And Setael, I'm practically confirmed already.
I could say the same about you, sweet stuff, but you're the farthest thing from being confirmed.
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Post Post #2081 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:38 am

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Glork wrote:Good job to all of my scumbuddies. I think we had a couple of breaks (LmL, I felt, was a terrible lynch that worked out really well). I'm sure I'll have more to say, but I can't think of anything at the moment. Good game, all.
A lot of the credit goes to you.

I had no idea when I replaced that Gaspar was Primate/Glork. I didn't figure it out from the Quicktopic site, either.

I'm so disappointed my genius claim got me lynched, argh.
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Post Post #2086 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:26 am

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the silent speaker wrote:I counterclaimed DGB because her claim interfered with the claim that was most natural for me. I'm still not sure why she did that, especially since claiming Baptistin made me think she hadn't read the quicktopic.
I replaced with everybody wanting to lynch me and demanding a claim immediately, including Gaspar. I didn't have the time to read Quicktopic in depth - I couldn't make heads or tails of it, since Primate and Glork weren't in the game, but they were in Quicktopic. I eventually figured out that Glork and Gaspar were the same, but Primate was a total mystery to me.
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