The real folk blues [Canceled]

[MathBlade]

Well except my first game three years ago but that was Titus trying to get me acclimated when I wasn't ready for MS yet.

[MathBlade]

So, it seems like what I missed waa Mathblade being told that they're wrong by the moderator, and then getting upset about it, yes?

Did they ever reevaluate based on the discovery that they were wrong, or did they just bitch about the fact that they were wrong?

Yes I have completely reread 170 pages in two minutes while balling my eyes out that somehow I have missed a social convention everyone else understands but me caused me to death tunnel Kraska and pretty much make the game unfun for Kraska which I try to avoid for anyone playing while pissed off having my period for more than a goddamn month wanting to break my phone and throw it across the wall.

Why yes I have managed to completely change face and worship the almighty Cerb.

This entire post is sarcasm.

[MathBlade]

^ is one of the reasons why I don't want to end the day yet

You are what is wrong with mafia today.
There are 32 players in the game. You do not need a read on all 32 players in the game today. It is impossible to have 32 good reads in a day without a very serious obsession and so by attempting to read 32 players in one day you have 32 reads that are not properly vetted.

This is town. TAM lynch is bad.

[MathBlade]

Vote Kraska

Vote Kraska.

why?
I'll check back for your answer tomorrow if I remember btw.

Nos is town. Scum Nos who I have worked with would never be this blatantly lazy.

[MathBlade]

I am phone posting here. I may have time to go in depth tomorow. Here is the Skrub stuff I noticed.

I have skimmed your posts and got a scumread. By analysing I mean analysing in more depth. Notice I said "analyse Skrub

more

".
It is better than nothing as voting a scumread is better than not voting at all. I will wait for my other head's opinion on the matter. Your post is a very weak rebuttal.

~Maker

You gave a weak post without any real content. It didn't give me much to reply to. What exactly did you scum read in my posts?

Lots of posts explaining why Skrub was going things. If Skrub was scum they wouldn't have done that. They wouldn't have been eager to antagonize and make suggestions. Combined with my sentiments earlier Skrub is town.

It was more gut from your tone from just skimming your posts. Like I said, I will go into more detail when I explain in depth.

Skrub's vote on MoZ is so bad

What's bad about it?

Just seemed to me like you saw the wagon building up on you and just voted for the brand new counterwagon cuz you were in a shitty spot.


Why do you think SirCakez is scum

Nah, that's what maker did. I'll go in depth on my Cakez read later

I'll go in depth on my Skrub read later.

In all honesty, you accuse me of doing a lot of things that you do yourself. Your posts seem very like you voted the most popular wagon and attempted a justification. Vifam picked up on it and you are now accusing me.
At best, you are no better than me.

At worst, this is outright hypocrisy.

If something is scummy when I do it, it's scummy when you do it. You are not somehow exempt from being scumread by your own tells.

~Maker

I didn't vote you because you were a popular wagon though. I voted you because your posts are scummy as hell. So its not outright hypocrisy, its me calling you out on bullshit. And I like how you admitted in the next sentence that you only voted me because I'm a popular wagon and that you tried to justify it. Thanks for letting us all know that you don't really have a scum read on me.

[MathBlade]

Phone borked my post:

Lots of posts explaining why Skrub was going things. If Skrub was scum they wouldn't have done that. They wouldn't have been eager to antagonize and make suggestions. Combined with my sentiments earlier Skrub is town.

[MathBlade]

Vote Kraska

Vote Kraska.

why?
I'll check back for your answer tomorrow if I remember btw.

Nos is town. Scum Nos who I have worked with would never be this blatantly lazy.

Are you sure? Nos was the epitome of laziness in Gistou.

On the contrary. He was limited posting but not lazy. He highlighted a guilty in the early game and had limited posting. Limited posting is not laziness. He was also cult and trying to fly under the radar.

As any alignment Nos limits posting. The trick is to find out why.

[MathBlade]

I hate all of these wagons.

I am going to bed will reread more tomorrow.

For now gut vote

VOTE: Nero Cain

[MathBlade]

There is a neighborhood that Vifam was in and the others in the hood confirmed he was talking in there about using his GS power on Kraska. The theory was that Kraska was scum budz with one of the others in the hood, (maybe Mirhawk), and that person passed on to Kraska that she was the target and so then the mafia team (or one of the teams if there are 2), killed Vifam for it.

That is where the wagon on Kraska came from, and then Kraska claimed 2 shot PGO.

That is one hell of a leap.

I said 10 pages of useless right? Just wanna see how close i get

This is not a leap.

Is Math a jester?

Maybe?, probs not tho. It's hard to tell when someone hyper-focuses on game setup. I think he leans angry-town at the moment.

I think He will be a little better today if we just don't mention stuff from yesterday.

Math, gun to your head, if you had to choose to vote for someone who has at LEAST 1 vote who would it be?

Kraska.

But other than Kraska or Nero which is your point of the question Rach Marie.

[MathBlade]

Is Math a jester?

No. Are you going to post content?

[MathBlade]

Umm Math I did not ask that question. I have been asleep and just got up?

I said I would vote you. Not that you asked.

[MathBlade]

PeregrineV please for the love of God mod has ruled move on from gunsmith.

[MathBlade]

You know what yolo

VOTE: RachMarie

[MathBlade]

I am reading tonight but I still dislike Rach Marie's posts. Both the wagon choices suck and most of those votes are staler than week old bread.

Driving.

(Pedit: There is no such thing as obvious sarcasm with me)

[MathBlade]

It is clear most of you have not played with me often enough or you would know I always prefer a lynch over a NL early on and see it as bad juju.

That I am not fond of people derp hammering without giving intent.

That I have even been known to give intent as early as 2 or 3 days before DL,

That I like holding the hammer.

That has been true since my first game on site when I hammered the IC Ray on D1.

Hammering is seen as scummy because it ends the day. I disagree with that and site meta in general.

I believe you believe this about yourself and could probably come up with many different types of examples of it. The question becomes not that you do it which I whole heartedly believe but why you felt you had to justify it. So why?

[MathBlade]

Holy shit Cerb is scum.

VOTE: Cerb

Holy shit I doubt you're town even more.

[MathBlade]

ABR, you get back on Nos, and Cerb, you either get on or you are the next death after we lynch Nos.

Like that ultimatum?

Vax, you should come on over to the right wagon.

ABR, why did you switch buddy, you were doing sooooooooooooooooooooo good.

I hate this post.
Logically Mirhawk followed by Davesaz by you is what logical brain says scum are in the hood.
However I keep getting a crawling feeling in the back of my head that you are scum.

[MathBlade]

Holy shit Cerb is scum.

VOTE: Cerb

Holy shit I doubt you're town even more.

This...

Coming from the guy...

Who wasted an entire day bitching about how a theme game is non-normal.

1) Person
2) Not a waste

[MathBlade]

We are not going down this rabbit hole. I disagree. Yelling does not prove your point.

ABR Rach Marie someone from the hood are all scum.

[MathBlade]

UNVOTE:

Interesting conversation going on, I'd like to see responses to my recent posts, and hear ABRs reason for joining the wagon be scorned.

ABR doesn't miss stuff like this as town

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Nosferatu

This reason is ever so clear. Please for those of us who don't have the ability to mind read explain it. Use your words.

[MathBlade]

The first sentence of my prior post is sarcasm.

[MathBlade]

That is what I am doing by showing that you are scum. The more I interact with you and show your blatant differences the more people will see what I do. If you think me talking to you is not convincing others when I flip you will be sorely mistaken. You've already just made up an excuse after Cerb asked you for your reason and tried to deflect. You don't want the accountability.

I am going to play Civ lynch ABR tomorrow after I die.

[MathBlade]

Sigh

Ok if you all really are going to push this and we do need 15 for a lynch and we have 2 days. I am not like 100% sold on Nacho being town, though I think he could very well be. But definitely nos should be vigged,

Her play is awful and scummy as all get out.

If even Spy is thinking of TAM, I guess the writing is on the wall.

VOTE: TAM

Sorry Nacho, I keep thinking about the last game we were in, you really fooled me there I was so sure you were town. And then you flip the Borg Queen. meh.

Explain why when you were pushing me to consolidate and pick a top lynch you unvote the top lynch and vote TAM.

[MathBlade]

Cerb there is so much bickering and so many people are wanting TAM over nos that I am afraid that we are going to end up with bad juju

A NL this early in a game this large is very bad for town. People seem to want to have her vigged not lynched.

I have to get some RL work stuffs done, but I will be back later.

Error: This is contradictory to actions. Rach says "hey let's not no lynch" moves votes off of Nos who is the top lynch...WTF?

[MathBlade]

I can't believe we didn't lynch Skrub, what is this town doing?

Nice to know you don't see yourself as town. Thanks for scum claiming.

[MathBlade]

Like it's dumb but id hammer tam because we need blood hed understand

Townreads and scumreads go

[MathBlade]

Cerb there is so much bickering and so many people are wanting TAM over nos that I am afraid that we are going to end up with bad juju

A NL this early in a game this large is very bad for town. People seem to want to have her vigged not lynched.

I have to get some RL work stuffs done, but I will be back later.

Error: This is contradictory to actions. Rach says "hey let's not no lynch" moves votes off of Nos who is the top lynch...WTF?

Yep.

Error: This feels like buddying.

[MathBlade]

Hammer Nosferatu already

No other lynch is going through today. He's probably scum, but it shouldn't matter what your opinion is of him at this stage.

It absolutely matters. It influences VCA and lots of other things. Why people vote matters.

This is a democracy but it is also a meritocracy as people earn scum reads.

[MathBlade]

Nosferatu (13): mhsmith0 , The Ascended Masters , SpyreX , RachMarie , Vaxkiller , Cerberus v666 , Aristophanes , Expedience , PeregrineV , davesaz , Varsoon , Radical Rat , Albert B. Rampage

Yeah...This was two scum bailing in Rach Marie and ABR. The question becomes why?

Were they doing it to no lynch, get Nos out of trouble after a weird push at the start of the game, or are they distancing themselves from a potential town flip and trying to mislynch Nacho instead?

That becomes the question.

[MathBlade]

ABR is town
TAM is town.

RachMarie move is the weird one here, not ABRs. ABR had an established history of voting TAM, a reason for the move to Nos, AND a reason for the move away.

That's why ABR is scum. When he's town he doesn't give reasons or try to explain. He just does things and says (paraphrase) "if you don't like it too bad".

[MathBlade]

Agreed. ABR is scum. TAM is town.

[MathBlade]

V/LA during weekday daytimes for an indeterminate timeframe. I have real life mafia aka jury duty. Will be a while for V/LAs if picked and nothing more than Thursday/Friday if not. If it becomes hugely impacting I can look for a replacement.

[MathBlade]

I can't believe we didn't lynch Skrub, what is this town doing?

Nice to know you don't see yourself as town. Thanks for scum claiming.

That wasn't a Scumclaim.

You've been making some mistakes this game...

This implies some thing aren't? What are those?

Oh and this goes for everyone:

You say I suck fine. But you are doing this site no favors in not addressing how. I bring up logical points as to why someone is scum and then people just say it is math. You want the site to be as good as you fine. Then teach or shut the hell up. Otherwise it is an unproductive insult that just strokes your own ego.

[MathBlade]

Mirhawk I want Kraska to be scum because it explains why <redacted>

However poisoner doesn't make sense mechanically.

My gut is screaming Kraska is scum but I can't explain it other than gut so I have to let it go.

The fact you are still pushing it so close to lynch makes me really worry about you even more so than before.

[MathBlade]

oh dude that's wack as fuck, oh well

I know.

This was super sad I was right on all theory counts and coming around on Panzer not Mirhawk but it was because of fucking coincidence.

Except the meta reads on ABR and Rach but wow.

[MathBlade]

well considering ABR wanted all 4 of us on Nacho and make him the lynch that is not surprising that so many scum were on him at that time

Lol that was what was so fishy. Like you and ABR set off the pinging bells like I think I even quoted it as just a matter of why. Like bussing with me in the game I sniff for busses like a bloodhound baaaad idea.

[MathBlade]

And I warned you about it in your scum pt when you asked

though it really didn't matter as noone cought it I guess

I did and pointed it out in the PT and said I thought killers were defined by flavor but I was called insane.

*cries*

A decent townie game ruined

[MathBlade]

Yeah dude I didn't really think there was scum in the PT with us lol, I died anyway so it had no real effect on anything tho.

You died because you outed though. Probably a decent indication not to do that, since MOST large hoods are compromised in large themes barring explicit mod statements of clears.

/me hugs

I like you

[MathBlade]

/pre-in

Panzerjager's a faggot

This is not cool. Please watch your language. I am a lesbian and proud of it and faggot should not be used as an insult as gay people are not less than.

[MathBlade]

I think i need to listen to my gut more, I had gut read on PK which he picked up on lol

I had not gotten that far, but I had planned on pushing for panzer death had he not gone and done what he did in the game

I also wanted to keep Math around a bit longer for the noise Love ya Math ♥

Skrub I do know your main then that was something that was bugging me.

<3 you too but I was either calling Kraska's bluff or tracking you. I was going to coin flip it and if I picked Kraska I would tell the PT I lied Day open.

[MathBlade]

Sorry FA may want to spoiler all references to what I do :$

I was gaining info Rach. Not so much guilties but if you were a PR and who you visited so I could CC you later. I don't go for kills as that early happens because I am rarely NK'd I go for stuff that helps in midlate game.