The real folk blues [Canceled]

[Radical Rat]

Confirming replacement.

I hope you'll all understand that I physically cannot read 123 pages while also staying active, so my catch up plan is to ISO my slot to see what my predecessor thought of things. If there's anyone else you guys think I should ISO, or there's a particular page range I'd ought to read, just let me know.

UNVOTE:
Until I have at least some idea of what's going on.

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Diamond Sentinel

Based on what I've read from Kamelot's ISO, you hard scumread us when we voted for Skrub, called us obvtown after deciding he was probably Town, then had another hard scumread for voting Vedith.

This is both inconsistent with your own self-meta, and smells like you defending your buddies.

I'm gonna go back to bed for now, but you'll be ISOed in a few hours.

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Diamond Sentinel

Based on what I've read from Kamelot's ISO, you hard scumread us when we voted for Skrub, called us obvtown after deciding he was probably Town, then had another hard scumread for voting Vedith.

This is both inconsistent with your own self-meta, and smells like you defending your buddies.

I'm gonna go back to bed for now, but you'll be ISOed in a few hours.

The obvtown was a Freudian slip, as I said immediately after that. You have never been obvtown. You are, and have always been, a scummy McScumfuck.

So you have.
Sorry, Kamelot never quoted that post.

Still, you're tunneling Town, so until I find someone better to vote, it stays.

Which may not happen until later, because Damn this game is fast with 28 players, and I only have a few minutes at a time until this evening.

[Radical Rat]

Unrelated: Happy Birthday Frozen!

[Radical Rat]

Slimming through TAM's ISO since he's getting a wagon now.

I'm seeing a lot of arrogance and arguments against wagons, but very little actual trying to lynch anyone, scum or otherwise.

Essentially, it seems like Nacho's trying to stop the Town from doing its job. I'll bite that lynch.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: The Ascended Masters

[Radical Rat]

Welp. Guess I'd better check out Kraska now...

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: radical

I'll take hammer duty but not happy about these

Explain please.

I haven't gotten around to checking Skrub's ISO yet, but what makes TAM look Town? What makes me look scum?
From what I've read, Kamelot was doing a pretty good job

[Radical Rat]

agreed

VOTE: vax

...No.

[Radical Rat]

I find myself at a bit of crossroads.

On one hand, I like what I'm seeing from TAM now.
However, I did NOT like his early game and I find it a bit strange that he only appears now that a wagon is going on him.

If Mirhawk is right about the kill flavor though, which I am uncertain how to verify...
VOTE: Kraska

[Radical Rat]

I find myself at a bit of crossroads.

On one hand, I like what I'm seeing from TAM now.
However, I did NOT like his early game and I find it a bit strange that he only appears now that a wagon is going on him.

If Mirhawk is right about the kill flavor though, which I am uncertain how to verify...
VOTE: Kraska

Why didn't you like my early game?
When people wagon you when you're gone, you're at a bit of a lose-lose situation. If you're gone, then people think you're avoiding the game when there's a wagon on you. When you return, then people think that you're appearing because there's a wagon on you. I think it's a bad tell for that reason.

Admittedly, I didn't read ALL of your posts.
But from what I did read you sounded very intent on unilateral control of the lunches. Which I've seen from Town before.... But usually to push lunches they felt strongly on, not straight out of the gate like that.

[Radical Rat]

Yo rat between then and now with the words explain what changed your mind

I'm not entirely sure what this is asking. If you mean about TAM, my mind is not yet made up, but he seems more open to dialogue now, while also doing what I perceive to be scumhunting.

Admittedly, I didn't read ALL of your posts.
But from what I did read you sounded very intent on unilateral control of the lunches. Which I've seen from Town before.... But usually to push lunches they felt strongly on, not straight out of the gate like that.

And this is something that you've seen from scum?

Yes. RadiantCowbells to be precise.

[Radical Rat]

Thanks TAM!

In that case, probably town. I hope to see this slot be active.

That's the plan!

[Radical Rat]

Yes. RadiantCowbells to be precise.

But that's a "regardless of alignment" type of deal, that's just who he is.
What I wanted was not unilateral control of the lynch (as evidenced by me being willing to go along with the wagons I went with yesterday). What I wanted was to lynch in a reasonable amount of time, and we did. It wasn't the best lynch in the world but it wasn't the worst and we didn't have to pull all of our fingernails out and kill our first born children to get it. It was lovely.

Fair enough.
I do feel much better about you now that you're here and engaging. May not have joined that wagon at all had I been here the whole time, but ah well. Glad you weren't lynched.

I still need to properly check out Kraska and Skrub, but from what I've heard so far, Kraska needs rope.

[Radical Rat]

say a baby is rigged in a contraption that will randomly drop it from a tall tree in a forest.

if it does fall, does it make a sound?

Yes.
Now how does this relate to the game?

[Radical Rat]

Here are some questions for rat:
Rat has been feeling out all the popular wagons and then retreating whenever questioned about his votes
and now he's settling on a convenient vote on me bc noones gonna give him flak for that
Also he supposedly aagree with mirhawk or sth. Hey rat do you also think I'm a super poisoner self aligned bomber too? If so why am I priority to lynch over scum?

My very first vote since joining the game was not a popular wagon. It was based on Kamelot's ISO. That scumread was weakened when it was pointed out that DS had said the wrong name.

TAM was gaining steam, I glanced through the ISO, and followed. That would be fair to call feeling out a popular wagon, but I really don't have much to go on here unless you guys want to stop posting while I read 110+ pages.

I assume Mirhawk wouldn't have made that comment without some kind of evidence, which puts you at a priority over a scumteam to me, because I know who you are. Don't try to frame lynching 3P as defending the Mafia. Both of 'em have to die before we can win, what difference does the order make?

[Radical Rat]

Sure downtime has me a bit wonked up, but I'm pretty sure my choice lynches today are DS or Kraska.

Might also be able to go with Cakez, but idk. He's always been a tough one for me to read.

My no lynch list is TAM and Spyrex right now.

[Radical Rat]

Site downtime*

Autocorrect needs to !@#$ing chill sometimes...

[Radical Rat]

Site downtime has me a bit wonked up, but I'm pretty sure my choice lynches today are DS or Kraska.

Might also be able to go with Cakez, but idk. He's always been a tough one for me to read.

My no lynch list is TAM and Spyrex right now.

So your no-lynch list is down to the 2 largest wagons today. OH THANK YOU WISE ONE FOR YOUR WONDERFUL INSIGHT THAT GETS NOTHING DONE.

Pretty sure Spyrex isn't one of the two largest wagons today. TAM is, but being able to interact with and watch him is giving me incredibly Town vibes, despite my issues with strongarming.

Besides, I wasn't expecting anything huge to come out of that post. I didn't frame it as some brilliant insight. It was just an update on my reads, and frankly I find the hostility a bit unnecessary there.

[Radical Rat]

I trust I can read nos. I dont trust you.

but to answer why I think nos is more town that not -Nos said he wasnt going to read, nos has made no pretensions about pretending to read or promising to read, and nos had a very upfront dealing with me when we talked. He didnt avoid what a a serious request guises as a jestful prod and his proddodges have been platyful.


In short, his meta agrees with him being town, his attiuide is town, and his reaction to your shotfest is town.

How exactly does refusing to read the game look Town to you? If he doesn't care about the game, he should replace out. Since he's still here, evidently he DOES care, just... Not enough to read?

Of course, it also doesn't make a whole lot of sense for scum to not be reading, but calling that a towntell is really strange to me.

[Radical Rat]

This game moves too darn fast sometimes

I've got about 20 pages to read still, but I did see the sudden Rach push which feels pretty reachy.
Kraska and DS aren't happening, and if folks are counter wagoning, we must be onto something, plus pisskop's pathetic excuse for a defense, so...
VOTE: Nosferatu

[Radical Rat]

and if folks are counter wagoning, we must be onto something,

you do know that Nos is a TAM couterwagon right? How does that apply to Nos but not Tam?

Based on what I've read, which I will admit is incomplete, the primary push for Nos's lynch has been from TAM himself. Self defence is common to both Town and Scum.

The Rach wagon seems more like an attempt by her buddies to divert the lynch.

[Radical Rat]

Panzer, that response is aimed at you as well, though there's not much to say when someone doesn't actually express reasoning when asked a question like the one I asked you.

Pedit: I never expressed a read on him, I only expressed disapproval of a wagon on a strong player (any strong player) at this stage of the game. You could cull that null, I call it not even attempting to evaluate him, because I hadn't.

Why should "strong" players be immune to wagons? Are they not just as likely to be scum as the rest of us?

[Radical Rat]

Could you perhaps leave your vote, to keep Nos at L-1?

If anyone hammers early, we have a D3 lynch ready to go, but I feel like Nos needs to have that pressure

[Radical Rat]

Read carefully, he wanted to hear my reasons be scorned by others, not to hear my reasons. And he asked no questions.

I'm pretty sure that was a typo.

[Radical Rat]

Agreed. ABR is scum. TAM is town.

Eh, I don't know about ABR. I'm leaning Town based on seeing him in Dragon Age. I have not seen his scumgame though.

[Radical Rat]

Do we even know if this game HAS a vig to shoot Nos?

[Radical Rat]

Do we even know if this game HAS a vig to shoot Nos?

Fish much?

I'm not asking for a vig to claim.
It just seems foolish to me to put faith into a PR that may not even exist.