Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

[Shiro]

No Luna.

We are absolutely going to fix this. The frame job was shit as it didn't even suggest scum in Tevinter and pointed a big finger at scum in Shiro/Random because they are flailing to turn Tevinter against itself.

We are absolutely pulling this masonry over the finish line.

I had no reason to bloody claim redirector if scum Titus, I could have claimed anything other than what frames me the very fucking next day

[Shiro]

No Luna.

We are absolutely going to fix this. The frame job was shit as it didn't even suggest scum in Tevinter and pointed a big finger at scum in Shiro/Random because they are flailing to turn Tevinter against itself.

We are absolutely pulling this masonry over the finish line.

I had no reason to bloody claim redirector if scum Titus, I could have claimed anything other than what frames me the very fucking next day

WiFOM.

That is shitty Wifom

[Shiro]

Like extremely shitty because if I hadn't done it, theoreticaly we would have gotten Abr/Luna lynches back to back instead of this situation


P.edit

His cause was to stop Titus tunnel on rb who was at the end of the day town...
P.edit

Kk pv. What is up with it. Is it legit?

[Shiro]

Shouldn't Orlais have 3 players and thus have a Kingmaker and a warden?

Rb,Feelmi and Abr are dead. That leaves 2 people

[Shiro]

Titus logic: Scum are targeting people that think Tevinter has scum

Tevinter must be masonry


No Titus, this isn't town you. I personally believe you are incredibly good as town and I refuse to believe you would say such things as such. This is scum Titus ploy to save her buddies no matter the cost. Same way you saved me from w cop guilty on nether game.

[Shiro]

Titus:

Scum.want drama

So they target Abr to remove w drama inducing player buy failed so they framed him as a counter measure as well.

Also killed rb for such reason

[Shiro]

@PEREGRINEV

IS THE LIE DETECTOR SHIT LEGIT?

[Shiro]

Can someone give me the order of these events?

Luna claiming cop
Discovering that there is a bus driver (did I get that right?)
Luna claiming a false guilty on ABR

There was no discovering

I claimed redirector before the guilty was even s thing because we were missing a kill amd I thought I might have redirected scum to their buddy who was BP.

P.edit

You got the order wrong Titus. I claimed before the guilty.

[Shiro]

The fact that PV comes in here and starts reading from the daystart to talk about nothing but the game does not sit well with me.

FTFY-

I'm open to questions.

@PEREGRINEV

IS THE LIE DETECTOR SHIT LEGIT?

Like come on.



P.edit

Hahahahaha

How am I supposed to know that if I am scum and Tevinter is all town as you claim

BUSTED

[Shiro]

Check bloody mate

[Shiro]

shiro you are a charmer you were obvscum but for some reason people just wouldn't lynch you ~Anti

I'm going to go watch paint dry now.

Except I have been obvtowning this whole game with my transparency

P.edit

Unless you know, you are lying

[Shiro]

@pv Titus claims there is no scum.in Tevinter, she also has to believe half + of antiva is scum

[Shiro]

{Titus, random,Dunnstral}
2+ scum in here

There's 0 scum in there.

How the hell has anything I have done give you the slightest idea I was scum?

Are you kidding?

We entered day2 with a hard guilty on ABR, and we knew it, and you spend 10 posts talking about the many reasons NOT to lynch him.

Once the guilty is outted, you're OK with it, and your objectiosn seem to vanish. Or, they are at least no longer brought up by you.

As scum setting up Luna why would I not be aware of the guilty?

If there is scum in Tevinater, and scum have daytalk, then you might know about it.

If there is not scum in Tevinter, then you coulnd't know about it.

So you are telling me my scum buddy submitted a redirect action on Luna and I wouldn't prepare for a guilty? Good argument

You know me bro. Rogue mafia player duping my teammates extraordinary.

[Shiro]

No Luna.

We are absolutely going to fix this. The frame job was shit as it didn't even suggest scum in Tevinter and pointed a big finger at scum in Shiro/Random because they are flailing to turn Tevinter against itself.

We are absolutely pulling this masonry over the finish line.

Can someone give me the order of these events?

Luna claiming cop
Discovering that there is a bus driver (did I get that right?)
Luna claiming a false guilty on ABR

There was no discovering

I claimed redirector before the guilty was even s thing because we were missing a kill amd I thought I might have redirected scum to their buddy who was BP.

P.edit

You got the order wrong Titus. I claimed before the guilty.

You didn't. Luna put it in the hood before you claimed your role.

One more time btw


Titus saying

Tevinter is masonry

Then

That as scum.i knew about Lunas claim

As I said

Check mat

[Shiro]

I am town

[Shiro]

Vote :Motoko

Like I said

[Shiro]

That as scum.i knew about Lunas claim

Everyone did... i claimed here! when people were driving up a lynch on me.

I meant the guilty Luna

[Shiro]

She also said scum tried to kill Abr while at the same time setting up a guilty on him by Luna (who if Abr was killed woukd have made her claim so)

[Shiro]

She also said scum tried to kill Abr while at the same time setting up a guilty on him by Luna (who if Abr was killed woukd have made her claim so)

Scum had no idea who Luna was checking.

It would have been pretty obvious.

[Shiro]

In all honesty Luna is 99% chance scum as well

[Shiro]

In all honesty Luna is 99% chance scum as well

Becasue..................................

Because there is a good chance she simply faked a guilty to get rid of Abr

[Shiro]

Honestly i shouldn't have ever left that vote

Vote: Shiro

Every move after the checkmate love is irrelevant. My death in any and all scenario changes nothing.

Scum already lost.

[Shiro]

Not really because I had claimed redirector.

Titus is a mastermind scum that can get out of horrid situations, she once got me out of a cop guilty. She is amazing. They had a backup plan and it is obviously working

[Shiro]

Beeboy she won't because they know we are right and they lost. They are trying to find a move that doesn't exist.

[Shiro]

Beeboy, she is scum ^_^

Again, they are trying to find a move when the game is already over : D

Honestly I would self vote and let you guys lynch me simply to prove that point cause town is being stubborn without concrete proof

[Shiro]

Beeboy are you down for lynching me? It sounds wrong but I think it is the most town move right now.

My town flip Will basically make everything you say backed up by proof

[Shiro]

It will also make my words pretty much conf.

You will be able to sail to the finish line after that.

[Shiro]

Like they will be forced to nk you tbh but the rest of the town can then listen to our words and Abrs last post as gospel

[Shiro]

why do all of these people want to be lynched ffs

Because town won.

We already checkmated. I am simply proving that no matter which move scum take now the end is set

[Shiro]

Beeboy scum killing the person that is his fanboy because lol let's make the game less toxic and use it to lynch Tevinter instead of letting the player do it naturally or get mislynched having the sane effects

[Shiro]

I should just go back to "not thinking"

But we like you when you are thinking D:

[Shiro]

This kind of reminds me of town Luna from ika's greatest idea buuuuuuut her being town doesn;t fit with me being town(which is a thing)

[Shiro]

Which they can. So stop crossvoting

Seriously. Mafia get their own nation to pick a warden from.

So the only canditate is RR who has flavour claimed battlemage(which is my flavour and I am redirector)

[Shiro]

I should just go back to "not thinking"

But we like you when you are thinking D:

Everytime i "think" you're using it as a reason to

continue framing

me just like

you framing me

with

your redirect

, im tired of

giving scum ammo

to ML me.

I

AM

TOWN

I REDIRECTED PV TO RR

That is the absolute truth.

[Shiro]

. Doesn't have to have been from shiro, scum have their own nation to elect a warden from as well

Then it has to be RR cause I know based on flavour that he is redirector.

And 3 redirector just doesn't sit right.

[Shiro]

Inb4 the truth is that scum have a framer and framed Abr XD

[Shiro]

2) Scum shot ABR to mislynch Luna

How? When duplicates are a thing, how does Abr kill incriminate Luna at all?

[Shiro]

Like assume Abr was honest and flipped night 1 as cop

Luna was redirected and got guilty on flipped town

She claims so.
Redirector scum discovered
Luna pretty much had no problems because duplicate roles are a thing
Scum hinting occurs normally.

Your theory makes no sense

[Shiro]

In the contrary

Scum in Tevinter that knew what Luna was doing could no kill to get the easy lynch on ABR and then frame her and every single warden of night 1

Which makes more sense to you?
(this assuming Luna town)

[Shiro]

In the contrary

Scum in Tevinter that knew what Luna was doing could no kill to get the easy lynch on ABR and then frame her and every single warden of night 1

Which makes more sense to you?
(this assuming Luna town)

Actually..Yea

I believe this is what happened.

It doesn't even matter who they lynch first. Assume me, flip town, was honest, flip Luna, flip town, night 1 warden hunt to find the lier and presumably all of them flipping town. It was the perfect plan. Scum couldn't know I knew RR was also redirector which would bust tge plan and the fact that they have their own warden.

Sorry for doubting you Luna

[Shiro]

Wait Ira I thought so too but now everything falls into place

Guilty on ABR first, kill rb next

Claim they lied to town to excuse the night no kill first night and everyone that cam confirm or deny coincidentally dead.

This was a perfect plan to mislynch after mislynch. This plan framed every single night 1 warden and all they did was redirect Luna and no kill.

RR is scum redirector and this explains scum Titus over protectiveness.

She 180 and bussed bevause the plan got busted and darkspawn chosen warden is out. now they need to damage control in order to at the very least not get all busted.

Mason were obviously more important to protect(if she was town cause after Abr flip Luna was obv getting set up this impossible to be nked) but she couldn't risk a possible vig killing Luna after Abr flip which is why she protected her.


Everything.makes sense. Now

[Shiro]

Luna claimed first Ira

[Shiro]

Luna thoughts on my theory?

[Shiro]

Being VT sucks.

Best thing is being a day vig

[Shiro]

Just a freindly advise.

I as a mod will always answer to any questions about hidden mechanics in my game as "I'm not denying or confirming this" this is not a confirmation from my part Nor a deny ; All other impressions or assumptions based on that is on you.

This message is also not confirming or denying anything.

I accept the blame for any presumption I make don't worry ^_^

But

@Mod is there a chance that the game has a hidden player tgat doesn't get prodded with a win conditions of don't get noticed that has to compulsively redirect cops at night?

:p

[Shiro]

Just a freindly advise.

I as a mod will always answer to any questions about hidden mechanics in my game as "I'm not denying or confirming this" this is not a confirmation from my part Nor a deny ; All other impressions or assumptions based on that is on you.

This message is also not confirming or denying anything.

@Mod is there a chance that the game has a hidden player tgat doesn't get prodded with a win conditions of don't get noticed that has to compulsively redirect cops at night?

No ; all players are introduced and all must play according to activity rules. I will check the activity thing right now. sorry

edit : no one is in prod range.

It was a joke for you to answer I cannot confirm nor deny such a player existance XD

[Shiro]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

[Shiro]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

[Shiro]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

Do you believe there's more than 2 redirectors?

Nope, the theory assumed RR scum

[Shiro]

A joat seems really unlikely to me as well in all honesty

I'm presuming Luna is town to you, correct?

If my theory is right then yes.

Do you believe there's more than 2 redirectors?

Nope, the theory assumed RR scum

So you're at either Luna is scum or RR is?

Yup, From my PoV there is no alternative and I can see where this is going, your next question will be, So why are you voting me ? And the answer is I am following beeboys plan because it will prevent scum from killing Luna (in case she is town) which can assist us ton.

[Shiro]

Huh, Shiro is actually voting Mokoto and Scully. That is not great...

Read beeboys plan and you will get why.

[Shiro]

Any of the redirectors can fuck with any part, particularly if Dunn is right.

You do bring a valid point here. I can give you that.

[Shiro]

Okay, we only have 10 hours left!

Mokoto and Scully have revealed as innocent child, everyone vote Radical Rat as fast as you can to ensure a lynch!

Huh?

[Shiro]

Vote:RR

Whatever he is scum as well anyway

[Shiro]

This is really weird

[Shiro]

Agh I can't make sense of this. Why are we both alive Luna? We were practically confirmed after yesterday, They knew you had 2 checks, why let you use them.

Why kill FC out of the blue?
Nothing makes sense and it bugs me >.<

Luna I think both of us townread at least most of the scum team. It Is the only logical explanation as to why we would be left alive and why they would let you get two checks. They probably knew you wouldn't be checking them.

[Shiro]

Tevinter has scum 100% No way scum just blindly risked it, they knew where you were going.

[Shiro]

Oh and Dgb wagon is kinda trash.

[Shiro]

Did you mention who you woukd cop in Tevinter?

[Shiro]

That made me laugh XD

[Shiro]

Vote:M&S

Let's do this you guys

[Shiro]

no

One reason not to? T
he way M&S had defended RR was weird, how till it was inevitable wanted me dead over them. How she had an unexplained townread there from day one(and Titus doesn't bus till absolutly necessary)
Why she doced Luna when it was the worst move for town to do(and Titus is an amazing player to know that scum wouldn't kill the person they were trying to frame or the person that she thinks is scum)
Why does she fight so hard to prove that there is no scum in tevinter when it is pretty obvious that there is for anything to make sense?
Why did she try to justify that no there was no no kill with the most ludicrus theories while mostly everything pointed to the contrarry ?
Why the kill of rb over anyone else that was more townread or useful ?(Hint:He was pushing she was scum plus it fell perfectly with her wild theories about abr being warden)

I mean come on Dun

[Shiro]

No because you are scum. I will find a way to prove it.

We lynched RR because of me thank you very much, I pointed out he was redirector. Unless you think I deliberatly pointed out to lynch my teamate instead of fighting for the perceived frame on Luna because reasons ??? right ?

[Shiro]

Also Tevinter has to have scum Titus because this was very carefully planned and scum would need to know Luna's targets.

[Shiro]

Before you say, what scum kill, the sacrifice nightkill thing is false because RR did not flip with it.

I agree that the sacrifice thing is bs. I believe Darkspawn can just freely vote their own warden.

[Shiro]

No because you are scum. I will find a way to prove it.

We lynched RR because of me thank you very much, I pointed out he was redirector. Unless you think I deliberatly pointed out to lynch my teamate instead of fighting for the perceived frame on Luna because reasons ??? right ?

Luna got a town result on you.

Which is good enough to make you town for now.

SO I do an ISO to learn your town-thoguhts.

I find not much of what I was looking for.

Aside from Mokoto, who are your scumreads and townreads?

I am not much of a read's list person.

[Shiro]

Unoptimal from scum's prespective in order to push their plans? I was ro be lynch yesterday if their plans would have worked so there is that.
I am fairly certain either Vedith or the Bieber is scum. They would have had to known I am redirector beforehand for their plan ti be efficient so inside knowledge is likely.

[Shiro]

why do you have a townread on ira, I'm actually pretty convinced that he's scum

~Memeo

He has been obvtowning since forever and his push on RR was legit shit. That isn't a bus mate

[Shiro]

Thing is

ira claims investigative of sorts,Luna is a cop and Vedith is a tracker.

3 investigatives sounds a bit too much for town which is why I think Vedith miiiight be scum.

[Shiro]

I mean I knew who exactly Luna visited...
But yeah my role is fake.

I mean, I never said you aren't a tracker

[Shiro]

I am clear from RR's flip.

How exactly does RR's flip clear you like at all ?

[Shiro]

Also I never asked to be warden, I was just as surprised when I suddenly saw I was Antiva's warden.

[Shiro]

ABR really doesn't seem like scum though and 2 cops with a person capable to make their powers double useful seems op.to death.

@Shiro: Going back to this, what do you think about Shadow claiming cop and there being 2 claimed motivators. Do you still believe this situation is OP?

I think one of all those claims is scum and it isn't you, I do not think it is Ira so that leave shadow and Vedith as possibly canditates.


P.edit

Me and Beeboy were pushing you for being scum (albeit beeboy more than me I was kinda sheeping) Not once was the case on you just herp derp Titus is scum cause tevinter.

[Shiro]

No. Shiro is not clear. Don't say that. She has done ONLY proscum votes and actions the entire game.

If Vedith is scum, Shiro can be.
If Shiro is Godfather, she can be.

I refuse to accept the proposition that scum burn a redirector on Luna getting a single cop result, yet sit on their hands when Luna gets two. That's insane.

There is no way that is a valid clear or even suggesting of innocence. You want me to townread Shiro?

Explain why Shiro refused to vote RR when they were in a 1 v 1.
Explain the massive EoD wagon when I was not getting lynched yesterday.
Explain why Shiro keeps coming after me when only assholes and scum have.
Explain why she gets away with randomly doubt casting Tevinter.
Explain why her hood elected her over Beeboy.
Explain why she didn't refuse being made warden.

Shiro is scum.
With at least 1 other in her hood.

1)
Because I din't care about it. RR was set and done infact I didn;t care about dying either. You are harder to kill however so you were priority target. RR could have easily followed after.
2)
This has to do with people being stubburn and further proved my 1) point that RR was scum and not so hard to lynch.
3)
Because I know I am right
4)
It isn't random it is logical, it makes the most sense for scum to be there for what has happened to make sense and be a calculated plan and not a play based on luck and guesses
5)
I do not know, don't ask me about that. I couldn't have voted myself though so if you wish to believe that scum elected me for a uterior motive then you must believe antiva has 3 scum(Plus me if you wish to push that narative)
6)
I infact voted beeboy and the plan was for this to happen, I never asked to be warden.

[Shiro]

1) You didn't care when RR was confscum to you if town? Bullshit.

2) Bullshit. Lynching in a 1 v 1 at least was insane because scum wanted me lynched to avoid the Tevinter masonry being confirmed.

3) Dodge, unless you claim asshole in this game.

4) ABR's death clears Tevinter. You're "it makes sense" is nothing more than shading to further a scum agenda.

5 - 6) Bullshit. You should have claimed and asked not to be warden.

1)
Nah it was true, I even said so yesterday, check my posts.
2)
People wanted you lynched because you are scumy, your theories are too wild to be true and you are too good of a player to be coming up with them.
3)
I mean, I won't deny that I have been asshol-y in this game hehe ^_^;
4)
Like how ?
5-6)
I didn;t think I would be voted to make me claiming relevant.

[Shiro]

Honestly i shouldn't have ever left that vote

Vote: Shiro

Every move after the checkmate love is irrelevant. My death in any and all scenario changes nothing.

Scum already lost.

I mean I did make this post which was pretty asshol-y

Was wrong about Luna but not about you


Oh not once have I unreasonably shaded Tevinter, all my calls for it not being a masonry were with reasons.

P.edit

1)
I had made it pretty clear that I think RR was also scum
2)
No the same at all.
3)
I mean I have posted GiFs. It is irrelevant though cause I do as both alignments
4)
Which is exactly what you were suggesting they did N1 when she checked ABR(as well as framing him)
5)
Nope

[Shiro]

Shiro, I has cookies.

My...weakness.


No, as an antivan crow I learned how to combat my innate urges for chocolaty treatsn

Saving Thedas comes first.


I,Shiro of the Antivan crows shall not falter

Feelmi is part of the darkspawn and as a proud mage

I mean how can you forget this masterpiece

[Shiro]

I mean yea, I will totally towncase one my scum suspects as I have already stated

Unoptimal from scum's prespective in order to push their plans? I was ro be lynch yesterday if their plans would have worked so there is that.
I am fairly certain either Vedith or the Bieber is scum. They would have had to known I am redirector beforehand for their plan ti be efficient so inside knowledge is likely.

[Shiro]

No Luna.

We are absolutely going to fix this. The frame job was shit as it didn't even suggest scum in Tevinter and pointed a big finger at scum in Shiro/Random because they are flailing to turn Tevinter against itself.

We are absolutely pulling this masonry over the finish line.

Can someone give me the order of these events?

Luna claiming cop
Discovering that there is a bus driver (did I get that right?)
Luna claiming a false guilty on ABR

There was no discovering

I claimed redirector before the guilty was even s thing because we were missing a kill amd I thought I might have redirected scum to their buddy who was BP.

P.edit

You got the order wrong Titus. I claimed before the guilty.

You didn't. Luna put it in the hood before you claimed your role.

One more time btw


Titus saying

Tevinter is masonry

Then

That as scum.i knew about Lunas claim

As I said

Check mate

Vote :Motoko

Like I said

Btw once more proving how you yourself slipped that for me to to be scum and all this to work Tevinter has to have scum

[Shiro]

@DGB

I mean, Luna has to have been redirecting or else everything else doesn't fall into place

Also why do you think that Titus is town so much ?

[Shiro]

But she has insitgated tons of confusio0n with her wild theories. At one point she said

Scum want drama but also said that scum killed the two biggest instigators of drama to be nice to town.

[Shiro]

Vedith tracker her which is a thing. They could both be scum but eh, I am not seeing it. Also it would then make no sense for scum to no kill n1, it would also not make sense for her to claim in her hood first about the guilty.

[Shiro]

Vedith tracker her which is a thing. They could both be scum but eh, I am not seeing it. Also it would then make no sense for scum to no kill n1, it would also not make sense for her to claim in her hood first about the guilty.

He tracked her to ABR?

To me and Dun and he claimed so before she said who she investigated so either both scum or only Vedith.

[Shiro]

I don't understand how or why this wagon on 100% ego formed?

Me neither, it isn't like I think he is town but I don't particularly think otherwise either, just PoEish.

Meanwhile M&S needs rope still.

[Shiro]

Luna is town Ira

[Shiro]

VOTE: Yume

I would lynxh yume ob principle tbh.

[Shiro]

You are still basing your read of NEROCAIN from something easily fakeable from the RVS phase...

Tevinter Imperium is the scumteam!

Something about reaction test in the neighborhood and effort to put into the game, that's what Mokoto and Scully said before.

@Shiro, Remember the last "joker" in NY 191? On the off chance you're town...iraonvp is likely scum.

Was tgat Denmark? I don't really remember which moment you mean by joker.

[Shiro]

Been preodded

[Shiro]

Guys please can we lynch Titus

[Shiro]

Titus will you bus Bieber bro?

I am dine trying to knock sense into people

[Shiro]

Vote:Bieber Bro

[Shiro]

Shiro trust me on this one. Do DGB today and Titus tomorrow.

If Dgb flips town and we don't speedlynch Titus tommorow I will be really sad

Vote:Dgb

[Shiro]

Hey guys what's up

We lynching you cayse people are way too stubborn to listen and Titus is really good as scum to convince them.

[Shiro]

Unvote

Yea screw this. I will no lynch before I lynch Dgb

[Shiro]

I can lynch M&S, Bieber and maybe 100% ego

[Shiro]

Anybody else is out of the picture for me.

[Shiro]

Titus is hot airings, she says she scum reads you but when I talked about voting you she said, not till Tevinter town is safe

[Shiro]

Oh my I will be getting the hounors of hammering this.

[Shiro]

I am not home but when I do get home I am making a whole scene for this moment.

[Shiro]

M&S, who else

[Shiro]

Oh shit wait. I saw the names wrong in the VC, she isn't l-1

[Shiro]

I could care less that you are wrong Dunn :p

[Shiro]

As dusk was falling over Thedas, Shiro looked around. The crows was anxious, after seeing their friend mage RR die and transform into a darkspawn, everyone was uneasy. The darkspawn adapted, Shiro though. They learned new ways to infiltrate societies, a little too well this time.

But, this wasn't the time to despair, No, that is exactly what the darkspawn want and finding them out is our sacred duty. To save Antiva to save Thedas. Shiro looked at the person that was most likely a darkspawn in disguise. Looking around one last time the crown nodded, some disagreed but this wasn't the time. Actioned needed to be taken.

Shiro walked towards Motoko and Scully, Shiro was certain, they were the darkspawn. She took a step back but Shiro grabbed her before she could escape and put a knife through her stomach.

"Agh.."

There was a moment of silence.

"The antivan crows send their regards, darkspawn."

Vote:Motoko and scully

[Shiro]

This game, I had fun it. I hoped flavour was more along the lines of the gane but I made my own :p

Who would have thought the mysterious person said to embody antiva was actually darkspawn