So you're saying the same thing Dunn says?In post 3807, Motoko and Scully wrote:He'd be scum warden in that setup.In post 3806, Luna Fox wrote:Uhh but RR wasnt the warden and you just said you'd need warden for BP.In post 3803, Motoko and Scully wrote:You'd still be scum if PV is the killer and you were bulletproof.
Like I said, it's a stretch but it's the only way that ABR wasn't the Orlias warden that absorbed the kill, since no kill is absurd with two claimed cops and outed protectives.
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hmm i highly doubt both redirector claims are town considering my results got messed up with by a redirector, so i dont mind lynching either of them. My big problem right now is that im thinking Dunnstral is making up this thing about scum nation warden to try and save Shiro.
@beeboy: didn't you tell me before i in'd that you remembered FB's setups being scum sided?
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Not unplausible but i still have a hard time believing this scum nation warden thing that Dunnstral's coming up with, you should understand why i have a really hard time seeing you as town.In post 3849, Shiro wrote:Luna thoughts on my theory?~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Like my current thoughts are around the line of
Frame me with a redirector, since Shiro's a claiming redirector he's prime suspect after I flip town, Dunnstral comes to save the day by saying that there's a scum nation warden thing going on to implicate RR and save scum buddy Shiro.
Considering RR has been scumread since D1 that doesnt sound too hard to pull off.
My misgivings are because I remember beeboy telling me when i signed up for this that FB loved scum sided setups and that kind of thing falls perfectly with what i'd consider a scum sided setup, which are setups i dont mind since im a fan of mountainous anyway so i dont really need roles to townhunt, but the plan i proposed D1 has messed up a lot of my townhunting already or Titus has influenced it in some way or another (My prime team was ABR/beeboy/rb/Iroa, and 2 of them have flipped town already and i have a hard time seeing beeboy scum now).
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Random was warden N1 > motivated TNE for N2 > TNE was warden N2.In post 3859, PeregrineV wrote:Wouldn't Random being Warden be against the rules, since he was last night?~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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FCIn post 3864, PeregrineV wrote:
Who is TNE?In post 3860, Luna Fox wrote:
Random was warden N1 > motivated TNE for N2 > TNE was warden N2.In post 3859, PeregrineV wrote:Wouldn't Random being Warden be against the rules, since he was last night?~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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He only confirmed being motivated afaik.In post 3867, PeregrineV wrote:And does Frizzy Cola have anything to add to today's information after their wardenship? Because I didn't see anything.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Do you agree or disagree with the theory that scum has their own warden, did you see beeboy's points towards this being very scum sided if you agree? (tbf im still waiting on beeboy's reply to my posts).
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Then it should be simple.In post 3888, SirCakez wrote:I disagree because it would be broken af
I didn't see beeboy's post about it but I agree with it
Either you think i lied about my guilty, which by default makes me scum, or you think Shiro the only claimed redirector from the N1 Wardens had something to do with me getting a guilty on ABR.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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I guess.In post 3900, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:I just think there is a decent chance we would not have reliable mechanical clears this game
why do you think there's a chance i get any good results tonight then? You're handcuffing Shiro, but from your theory, i can still get redirected, and there's no way to protect vedith.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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I did, I'm not sure whether i should claim my targets first or Vedith first, what's your read on Vedith?In post 4032, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Luna night actions?
I didnt get different results, but with RR dead im not sure redirection could be involved this time.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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That is correctIn post 4036, Vedith wrote:4, 11.
So Random being the only one alive in Thedas now suggests scum trying to frame.
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Call me confbiased, but i wanted to make sure what Dunnstral saying about the warden thing was correct, I was fairly sure they both could still be scum since there's no other warden that could've possibly caused this.In post 4039, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Why target Shiro?
So from my PoV Shiro scum would mean Dunn town and Shiro town would mean Dunn scum, so i thought i'd get differing results but i was wrong.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Here:In post 3945, shaddowez wrote:So here is my theory, which paints msyelf or Masq/DGB as scum. It still involves ABR (and rb to a point) lying, but not some telepathic agreement between the two of them.
For reference, any time I use the word "know" in the following scenario means absolute truth, as in mod-confirmed.
In Orlais, the only person who knows who the Kingmaker is is the Kingmaker themself. The only people who know who the warden is are the Kingmaker (as they choose the warden) and the warden themself.
On D1, ABR claimed Kingmaker, both in thread and in the hood. There are a maximum of two people that know the truth of this - ABR himself, and if he's lying the actual Kingmaker. Nobody counter-claimed him in the hood, so there was no reason to doubt this. Both of the following scenarios point to ABR being targeted, as M&S insist happens.
Scenario 1- Assuming ABR wasn't lying, and there is scum in the hood, why would they decide to shoot a Kingmaker rather than one of the claimed wardens, especially when one of them was likely a cop?
Scenario 2 - Assuming ABR was lying about Kingmaker, somebody else was Kingmaker. If said Kingmaker was scum, they could choose ABR to be warden and then kill him, effectively negating the warden ability for Orlais that night. Since ABR had claimed cop, he was also the best option since any result he got would have been for naught since he wouldn't be able to pass it on. He was also unlikely to be protected in any manner, since he was assumed to be Kingmaker and not warden.
Now, for the final thought before my vote - immediately before ABR claimed Kingmaker in the hood, Masq says Kingmaker should out themselves in the hood but not tell us who was warden.
I'm still prone to think M&S is scum, since she is the only one insisting on an ABR shot and never bothered to think of this scenario, but I'm sure about this one.
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I recall some stuff being playing good cop, yellowbaron for one, i need to double check if she did the same thing with dwleeIn post 4059, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:
oh boy.In post 4054, Motoko and Scully wrote:The buddying of Dwlee was actually a reaction test designed in the hood to see if Dwlee would notice. He didn't.
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Why?In post 4068, Dunnstral wrote:Foxbeebirdboy
He doubled me for last night.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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This was L-2 btw.
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Not at all
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Uh i already explained that:In post 4106, iraonavp wrote:Luna Fox, why would you check Shiro?
I think DGB is terrible lynch because she replaced Masquerade...In post 4042, Luna Fox wrote:
Call me confbiased, but i wanted to make sure what Dunnstral saying about the warden thing was correct, I was fairly sure they both could still be scum since there's no other warden that could've possibly caused this.In post 4039, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Why target Shiro?
So from my PoV Shiro scum would mean Dunn town and Shiro town would mean Dunn scum, so i thought i'd get differing results but i was wrong.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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What do you think of beeboy's theory of "scum forfeits the NK to choose a warden amongst themselves"In post 4110, Motoko and Scully wrote:If scum have warden election powers (assumption made to suppose Shiro town), why not just role block Luna and shoot any protective Warden?~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Actually Shiro that might be right, i guess it's time for a reads list maybe we can figure out why scum left me alive, since im basically a VT now it doesnt matter to share this kind of information.
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Towny:
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100 Percent Ego
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Not exactly tho i was heavily attacking both Titus and Dunnstral.In post 4117, Shiro wrote:Did you mention who you woukd cop in Tevinter?~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Is all warden stuff taken care of in Antiva and Ferelden?In post 4149, The Bieber Brothers wrote:why is one of {Motoko and Scully, ira, DGB} not dea yet
in order of importance
come on people we can do this
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there was one a page or 2 agoIn post 4154, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Me and Foxbird decided we want a case before we may or may not vote DGB.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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What do you think of Shadow's mini case then.In post 4164, iraonavp wrote:I think DGB is slightly town-aligned...~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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So i'm doing a summary of what we have claimed so far, if there's a ??? and it was never claimed in-thread and you dont feel comfortable talking about it then feel free to leave it unknown.
Color code = Green: Town flip/Confirmed town (from my PoV), Blue: Townread, Orange: Scumread, Red: Confirmed Scum.
Antiva:Shiro,iroanovp,Vedith,foxbeeboy,TBB
Night 1 - Shiro - Claims to redirect PV onto RR
Night 2 - foxbeeboy - motivated me
Night 3 - Vedith - Tracked me to Shiro and Dunnstral
Ferelden:RR,Cakez,random,Frizzy, Yume
Night 1 - random - motivated Frizzy
Night 2 - Frizzy - did ???
Night 3 - random - motivated ???
Tevinter:Luna,PV,100% ego,Dunnstral,Titusdra
Night 1 - Luna Fox - Inspected ABR - Got guilty (but flipped town)
Night 2 - Titus - claims to have protected me
Night 3 - Luna Fox - Inspected Shiro and Dunnstral - Got Town/Town
Orlais:ABR,rb,DGB,Shadow,FU
Night 1 - ABR Claimed Kingmaker - Warden Unknown
Night 2 - ??? - ??? (this was claimed somewhere but idk where, im going off memory here)
Night 3 - Orlais can't have Warden anymore.
Does this make sense? I feel like i may be missing something =/~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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SirCakez is a town-lean (you can find strong town and towny on my previous reads list)In post 4203, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Why are Random and Sircakez town o.o
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Although if this is true then my reads are out of whack :<In post 4210, Luna Fox wrote:I'm thinking that each role has a duplicate and some of those duplicate pairs are Town/Scum.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Copy pasting and fixing.
So i'm doing a summary of what we have claimed so far, if there's a ??? and it was never claimed in-thread and you dont feel comfortable talking about it then feel free to leave it unknown.
Color code = Green: Town flip/Confirmed town (from my PoV), Blue: Townread, Orange: Scumread, Red: Confirmed Scum.
Antiva:Shiro,iroanovp,Vedith,foxbeeboy,TBB
Night 1 - Shiro - Claims to redirect PV onto RR
Night 2 - foxbeeboy - motivated me
Night 3 - Vedith - Tracked me to Shiro and Dunnstral
Ferelden:RR,Cakez,random,Frizzy, Yume
Night 1 - random - motivated Frizzy
Night 2 - Frizzy - did ???
Night 3 - random - motivated ???
Tevinter:Luna,PV,100% ego,Dunnstral,Titusdra
Night 1 - Luna Fox - Inspected ABR - Got guilty (but flipped town)
Night 2 - Titus - claims to have protected me
Night 3 - Luna Fox - Inspected Shiro and Dunnstral - Got Town/Town
Orlais:ABR,rb,DGB,Shadow,FU
Night 1 - ABR Claimed Kingmaker - Warden Unknown
Night 2 - Kingmaker ??? - DGB Warden - Commute
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Im questioning RR's choice of going to Ferelden.
1) Do you think there's at least 1 scum on every nation so they have a higher chance of getting Warden without doing the sacrifice thing beeboy was talking about?
2) When RR joined Ferelden did he have a choice of Antiva/Ferelden? (Self-reminder to go back and look)~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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She claimed that tooIn post 4233, Motoko and Scully wrote:Your claim naturally includes any actions you take.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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In post 4222, Luna Fox wrote:Copy pasting and fixing.
So i'm doing a summary of what we have claimed so far, if there's a ??? and it was never claimed in-thread and you dont feel comfortable talking about it then feel free to leave it unknown.
Color code = Green: Town flip/Confirmed town (from my PoV), Blue: Townread, Orange: Scumread, Red: Confirmed Scum.
Antiva:Shiro,iroanovp,Vedith,foxbeeboy,TBB
Night 1 - Shiro - Claims to redirect PV onto RR
Night 2 - foxbeeboy - motivated me
Night 3 - Vedith - Tracked me to Shiro and Dunnstral
Ferelden:RR,Cakez,random,Frizzy, Yume
Night 1 - random - motivated Frizzy
Night 2 - Frizzy - did ???
Night 3 - random - motivated ???
Tevinter:Luna,PV,100% ego,Dunnstral,Titusdra
Night 1 - Luna Fox - Inspected ABR - Got guilty (but flipped town)
Night 2 - Titus - claims to have protected me
Night 3 - Luna Fox - Inspected Shiro and Dunnstral - Got Town/Town
Orlais:ABR,rb,DGB,Shadow,FU
Night 1 - ABR Claimed Kingmaker - Warden Unknown
Night 2 - Kingmaker ??? - DGB Warden - Commute
Night 3 - Orlais can't have Warden anymore.~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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I'm not saying she didn't say she didn't forget, im also not townreading her, but saying that she never claimed it is a blatant lie:In post 4217, DrippingGoofball wrote:
I was warden night 3 I think it wasIn post 4185, PeregrineV wrote:@DGB- do you have any warden claims, or reason why you shouldn't be lynched?In post 4218, DrippingGoofball wrote:
or was it the other thing - I forgetIn post 4217, DrippingGoofball wrote:
I was warden night 3 I think it wasIn post 4185, PeregrineV wrote:@DGB- do you have any warden claims, or reason why you shouldn't be lynched?In post 4221, DrippingGoofball wrote:
it was meIn post 4199, Luna Fox wrote:Night 2 - ??? - ??? (this was claimed somewhere but idk where, im going off memory here)~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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Oh this was the posts i forgot:In post 3105, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:Was rb the Orlais warden last night? I forgot.
If he wasn't, that clears DGB and shadowez as town, I think. Scum wouldn't wanna deprive themselves of being warden.
It's also likely then that rb was killed for that exact purpose: to knock out Orlais.
Gonna wait until I talked to beeboy before I throw a vote down.In post 3351, DrippingGoofball wrote:
I was the warden.In post 3105, Foxbeebirdboy wrote:If he wasn't, that clears DGB and shadowez as town,~Gotta stay happy, Everyone's your friend~-
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